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Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:23 am
by MafiaMenace
i mean a lucky rng from the doc might

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 am
by Marmot
Oh wait, there's a doctor. Don't listen to me

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:25 am
by MafiaMenace
wait didnt naa basically claim poisoner

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:26 am
by MafiaMenace
from the mafiascum wiki
β€œ Some moderators will cause the poison to take effect at the end of the next Day, ”

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:26 am
by Marmot
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:25 am wait didnt naa basically claim poisoner
Pro-town poisoner, yeah

Interesting note, there's no healer of any kind right?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:28 am
by MafiaMenace
he also used it on two cops

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:29 am
by Marmot
Well, even if NAA is a poisoner, we can't chop him today, because there's still 2 mafia tonight, and they just need one successful NK to win.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:29 am
by MafiaMenace
no scratch that
mac died at night michelle died during the day
he did claim to have killed mac tho

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:29 am
by MafiaMenace
for whatever reason

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:31 am
by MafiaMenace
only one player claimed to be a doc so i guess we can treat jack as conftown

theres a world where mafia doesnt kill to give his claim substance i guess but /shrug

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:31 am
by MafiaMenace
im probably not gonna vote until seth confirms your ic claim

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:31 am
by Marmot
I'd still like NAA to confirm the checklist when he can.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:32 am
by MafiaMenace
he did lol

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:33 am
by Marmot
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:32 amhe did lol

I know he asked us, did he say they all apply to him too?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:34 am
by MafiaMenace
ye he said it in the same post
i get the confusion tho it looks like a template rather than his own answers

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:37 am
by MafiaMenace
paopan and soa are technically direct ccs of eachother lol

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:39 am
by MafiaMenace
[VOTE: soa] aubergine

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:40 am
by Marmot
I'm going over the OP again just to verify what statements are true.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:41 am
by NotAnAxehole
Yeah of course I killed Michelle 🀣🀣🀣🀣

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:45 am
by Marmot
What role was pointless btw?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:46 am
by MafiaMenace
the false town framer and mac

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:46 am
by MafiaMenace
mac being the fbi agent

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:47 am
by MafiaMenace
guess a mafia nokill can happen if mafia attacks a night immune player as well
so mac isnt guaranteed useless

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:47 am
by Marmot
Jack and Paopan can be mafia teammates yeah?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:48 am
by NotAnAxehole
@Marmot if the host gives us 3 KP I'm taking you and JoH as town, if the host gives us 4kp, I'm taking JoH. Any objections?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:48 am
by NotAnAxehole
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:47 am Jack and Paopan can be mafia teammates yeah?
Jack with the random doctor claim, just a weird role for mafia.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:49 am
by MafiaMenace
not a weird role for serial killer /shrug

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:50 am
by MafiaMenace
and nokilling as sk for the entire game is a genuine strategy
brb in like half an hour

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:50 am
by Marmot
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:48 am @Marmot if the host gives us 3 KP I'm taking you and JoH as town, if the host gives us 4kp, I'm taking JoH. Any objections?
I don't really understand what you mean by taking.

Also, you're gonna take me as town whenever the host comes to confirm me. I'm a conditional innocent child that had to do a bunch of things to reveal on Day 5.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:51 am
by Marmot
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:48 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:47 am Jack and Paopan can be mafia teammates yeah?
Jack with the random doctor claim, just a weird role for mafia.
I guess I should look at the Scotty chop again.

One of the things that's clearing Jack is the lie-detector claim that Paopan made, so it could be a way to clear each other.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:52 am
by NotAnAxehole
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:50 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:48 am @Marmot if the host gives us 3 KP I'm taking you and JoH as town, if the host gives us 4kp, I'm taking JoH. Any objections?
I don't really understand what you mean by taking.

Also, you're gonna take me as town whenever the host comes to confirm me. I'm a conditional innocent child that had to do a bunch of things to reveal on Day 5.
Oh right, I forgot. So if we have 4 I just take you as town.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:53 am
by Marmot
What do you mean by "if we have 4" though, I'm still confused by that?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:53 am
by Marmot
I guess, what does 4 KP do for who you think is town?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:54 am
by NotAnAxehole
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:53 am What do you mean by "if we have 4" though, I'm still confused by that?
So I marked SoA for death today.

I mark someone for death tomorrow... When does the mod end the game?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:55 am
by NotAnAxehole
Like idk, it could end at the day kill, or it could end after all actions are resolved.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:56 am
by NotAnAxehole
Because technically parity would be reached via the day kill technically occuring before the poison, but parity isn't even necessarily the mafia wincon?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:56 am
by NotAnAxehole
Like if mafia reaches parity, then dies, who wins?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:57 am
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:59 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:01 am @Mac's Mom is town

I've gotta run to work, will be back later.
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:47 am Oh and btw, here's a readlist.

OH MY GOD SO TOWNY HOW DOES HE DO IT?
Lime Coke

Strong Townread
Alexa
Michelle
Scotty

Townleaning
LinearPoint
MafiaMenace
Axe
Marmot
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:31 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:17 am NotAnAxehole - Jester
Ruri - Reliable Giver Cop (They claim to have no idea how their role works so we can only speculate as to what that means)
MafiaMenace - X-Shot Cop (red checked Scotty, has not claimed number of shots just that they are limited)
Jackofhearts2005 - Random Doctor (heals a random player each night)
LinearPoint - Loyal Bodydouble (Bodyguard only the things that are not kills are transferred to me from my target)
Michelle - Insane Cop (red checked Alexa [meaning town])
Marmot - Something that happens D5
Paopan - Lie Detector
sig - No Claim
Alexa - 1-shot Vigilante (Shot Falcon N1)
Son of Anarch - Oracle

Notably the setup says there are only 2 roles with no modifiers.
Currently SoA and Paopan claim no Modifiers when we have 1 role with no modifiers dead.
It's possible the lie is there is more than 2, but it's worth noting that is technically a counterclaim.

I'm willing to bet most people are claiming their real role, it's a matter of figuring out which roles aren't Town.

NotAnAxehole - Jester
Ruri - Reliable Giver Cop (They claim to have no idea how their role works so we can only speculate as to what that means)
MafiaMenace - X-Shot Cop (red checked Scotty, has not claimed number of shots just that they are limited)
Jackofhearts2005 - Random Doctor (heals a random player each night)
LinearPoint - Loyal Bodydouble (Bodyguard only the things that are not kills are transferred to me from my target)
Michelle - Insane Cop (red checked Alexa [meaning town])
Marmot - Something that happens D5
Paopan - Lie Detector
sig - No Claim
Alexa - 1-shot Vigilante (Shot Falcon N1)
Son of Anarch - Oracle

Notably the setup says there are only 2 roles with no modifiers.
Currently SoA and Paopan claim no Modifiers when we have 1 role with no modifiers dead.
It's possible the lie is there is more than 2, but it's worth noting that is technically a counterclaim.

I'm willing to bet most people are claiming their real role, it's a matter of figuring out which roles aren't Town.
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:58 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:40 pm red check on sig
[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Niiiiiiice

Also, LP is definitely scum

@Gavial Flip me daddy

As it turns out there appears to be a friendly little cute Marmot in the forest, there is no way this little critter could be behind anything. Marmot is Confirmed Town! Innocent Child!

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:57 am
by NotAnAxehole
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:53 am I guess, what does 4 KP do for who you think is town?
You and JoH are my town, I don't need any others.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:59 am
by NotAnAxehole
Anyway, I think it's just over if you can find me @Marmot (I'm also confirmed not mafia by Michelle, and confirmed not 3p by SoA)

We miiiight need 1 town, but we also might not.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:00 am
by NotAnAxehole
And I hard claim SoA is poisoned today

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:04 am
by Marmot
I'm double-checking this list and reposting for my own understanding

There will be at least 1 Sane Town Cop. - **Probably True** - claimed by MafiaMenace
There will be at least 1 Insane Town Cop. - **Confirmed** - Michelle
There will be no Day Vigilante. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Lie Detector. - **Unconfirmed** claimed by Paopan
There will be at least 1 Role that’s pointless.
There will be at least 1 Mafia. - **Confirmed**
There will be at least 1 Third Party. - **Confirmed**
There will be no Post Restriction roles. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Loyal role. - **Confirmed** - LinearPoint
There will be no Vanilla roles because they suck. - **Probably True**
There will be only two roles without a modifier.
There will be no redirection roles of any kind.
There will be at least 8 Town roles. - **Confirmed** - 7 have flipped + Marmot
There will be at least 1 role with a day ability. - **Confirmed** - Lime Coke
There will only be one of the above that’s a lie.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:08 am
by Marmot
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:59 am Anyway, I think it's just over if you can find me @Marmot (I'm also confirmed not mafia by Michelle, and confirmed not 3p by SoA)

We miiiight need 1 town, but we also might not.
Oooooh, I get what you're saying now.

I thought you were saying 4KP as in roles in the game that have KP, but you mean 4 chances to kill someone outside of the mafia NK.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:08 am
by Marmot
I mean, you haven't claimed a role yet, I'm not going to magically find you without that. Unless you are claiming Poisoner

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:10 am
by NotAnAxehole
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:04 am I'm double-checking this list and reposting for my own understanding

There will be at least 1 Sane Town Cop. - **Probably True** - claimed by MafiaMenace
There will be at least 1 Insane Town Cop. - **Confirmed** - Michelle
There will be no Day Vigilante. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Lie Detector. - **Unconfirmed** claimed by Paopan
There will be at least 1 Role that’s pointless.
There will be at least 1 Mafia. - **Confirmed**
There will be at least 1 Third Party. - **Confirmed**
There will be no Post Restriction roles. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Loyal role. - **Confirmed** - LinearPoint
There will be no Vanilla roles because they suck. - **Probably True**
There will be only two roles without a modifier.
There will be no redirection roles of any kind.
There will be at least 8 Town roles. - **Confirmed** - 7 have flipped + Marmot
There will be at least 1 role with a day ability. - **Confirmed** - Lime Coke
There will only be one of the above that’s a lie.
@Marmot are you considering me as locked town, if not I think I'm gonna forfeit despite probability being skewed in our favor. πŸ˜‚

We literally don't deserve to win if we can't find someone to be town when they have been identified as not mafia, not 3rd party by 2 roles.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:12 am
by NotAnAxehole
Like I have no words. You're trolling me

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:12 am
by Marmot
I've like barely paid attention the last couple days, so I'm still sorta catching up and wrapping my head around what's going on at this moment.

And no, I'm not considering you as locked town yet.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:15 am
by NotAnAxehole
Riiiight ok. Well I'm going to park on the cop that gave us a check on someone they thought was already sunk, no check, and a fake red check.

See y'all at endgame, please play responsibly. SoA is dying at end of day same as Michelle yesterday.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:16 am
by Marmot
What's bothering you right now NAA? Is my approach taking town down the wrong path?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:18 am
by Marmot
Like I'm not even sure what you want me to do. Who do you want to chop today?