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ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:28 pm
by insertnamehere
SIX DAYS ~ OPEN BTSC

In this round, players will be betting on the outcome of a race between 8 numbered horses. In order to win, you will need to guess the 1st and 2nd place finishers. However, unlike a normal horse race, the result is already decided. Before the game commences, each player will receive a hint about the placings. Also, there are three additional hints for sale. You may view one additional hint for the price of 3 Garnets.

Each player will be given 20 chips to be used for betting. When the game begins, 8 horses will race for 12 rounds. The race is 20 spaces long, and each horse may move a maximum of 3 spaces per round. At the end of each round, you may bet on any horse. You are allowed to split your bet on several horses, but you may not bet more than 3 chips in a single round. Also, you may not bet on any horse in the three spaces next to the finish line, which is referred to as the “no bet zone.” When two horses have reached the finish line, the game ends, and players who bet on the 1st or 2nd place horses will receive a payout depending on the horse’s odds. The more bets there are on a horse, the lower the odds, and the odds increase if there are fewer bets. In other words, if you are certain about 1st and 2nd place, you can increase the odds on those horses by preventing others from betting on them.

Any chips left over at the end are discarded. The player who receives the biggest payout will be the winner, and the player with the lowest payout will become the elimination candidate. The winner will receive 1 Garnet for every 10 chips they win, in addition to two Tokens of Life (one for them, and one to give to another player).

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:58 pm
by insertnamehere
GARNET LEADERBOARD

[mention]Golden[/mention] - SEVEN GARNETS

[mention]Speedchuck[/mention] - SEVEN GARNETS

[mention]EdJou[/mention] - FIVE GARNETS

[mention]Nutella[/mention] - FIVE GARNETS

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] - FOUR GARNETS

[mention]Scotty[/mention] - FOUR GARNETS

[mention]DharmaHelper[/mention] - FOUR GARNETS

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] - THREE GARNETS

[mention]Long Con[/mention] - TWO GARNETS

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:31 pm
by insertnamehere
The odds for each horse will be calculated as follows: For a number of chips lesser than or equal to 18 on each horse, the payout if the horse wins will be (22 - numbers of chips currently on the horse). For example, if a horse with 10 chips bet on it won either first or second, each player would receive 12 chips for every chip they bet on the horse. If there are more than 18 chips on a horse, the payout if the horse wins will be ((4 * .9^(the number of chips on the horse - 18)). For example, if there are 20 chips on a winning horse, the payout will be calculated by multiplying 4 times .9 to the power of 2, which would produce 3.24 chips for every chip bet.

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It is now Round 0. In 12 hours, Round 1 will begin.

Players can now bet chips on any horse. To do so, post the following message in the thread: "I bet {#} chips on Horse {#}."

To buy one of three numbered hints, please post this message in the thread: "I buy Hint {1, 2, or 3}." Hints cost 3 Garnets each.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:32 pm
by insertnamehere
You may now post in this thread and PM each other about this game.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:32 pm
by DharmaHelper
I buy hint #2

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:33 pm
by Golden
I buy hints 1 and 3

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:35 pm
by insertnamehere
Multiple people can buy each hint, by the way. DH and Golden aren't now the sole owners of these hints, unless no one else buys them over the course of the game.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:39 pm
by insertnamehere
Another quick note about the raceboard: When a horse reaches the "20" space, it counts as having finished the race. There's no weird special "FINISH" space like there was in Middle Race.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:55 pm
by DharmaHelper
Having peeped Hint #2, I will gladly offer this deal to my fellow competitors:

If you want to know what HInt #2 is but don't want to shell out 3 Garnets, you may send me 2 Garnets between now and Round 5, or 1 Garnet between Round 5 and Round 10. I'll tell you what the hint is, and I won't lie.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:17 pm
by EdJou
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 10:55 pm Having peeped Hint #2, I will gladly offer this deal to my fellow competitors:

If you want to know what HInt #2 is but don't want to shell out 3 Garnets, you may send me 2 Garnets between now and Round 5, or 1 Garnet between Round 5 and Round 10. I'll tell you what the hint is, and I won't lie.
I admit I had the same idea.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:27 pm
by DharmaHelper
EdJou wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 11:17 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 10:55 pm Having peeped Hint #2, I will gladly offer this deal to my fellow competitors:

If you want to know what HInt #2 is but don't want to shell out 3 Garnets, you may send me 2 Garnets between now and Round 5, or 1 Garnet between Round 5 and Round 10. I'll tell you what the hint is, and I won't lie.
I admit I had the same idea.
Man's gotta make his Garnets.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:36 am
by Golden
I was intending to offer the same deal as DH but for 1 garnet.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:47 am
by DharmaHelper
Golden wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:36 am I was intending to offer the same deal as DH but for 1 garnet.
:beer: Great minds.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:09 am
by nutella
I bet 1 chip on horse #2.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:18 am
by Scotty
I bet one chip on horse #2 too

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:23 am
by Golden
I bet one chip on horse #6

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 am
by Golden
I bet one chip on horse #1

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:14 am
by speedchuck
What if I wait to bet till round 10? I've got 20 chips, 3 per round right?

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:22 am
by EdJou
I bet 0 chips on horse #9. Thanks.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:40 am
by Scotty
INH, will we be privy to knowing if someone buys hints behind closed doors?

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:49 am
by insertnamehere
Scotty wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 10:40 am INH, will we be privy to knowing if someone buys hints behind closed doors?
If someone wants to buy a hint from me, they must post it in the thread. All other Garnet transactions will be secret, however, player Garnet totals will be revealed at the end of the Match.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:50 am
by insertnamehere
Also, players cannot directly quote or send screenshots of my hints.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:52 am
by insertnamehere
ROUND ONE

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Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:53 am
by speedchuck
insertnamehere wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 10:50 am Hint #1776: The horse that will win is actually a camel

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:54 am
by speedchuck
I bet three chips on horse 8

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:55 am
by insertnamehere
speedchuck wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 10:14 am What if I wait to bet till round 10? I've got 20 chips, 3 per round right?
You can bet in any round, however, you cannot bet on a horse when it reaches the last three spaces or the “NO BET ZONE.”

Bets cannot be withdrawn.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:04 am
by Long Con
I bet three chips on horse 8

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:05 am
by insertnamehere
CURRENT BETS

Horse #1 - Golden: 1
Horse #2 - Nutella: 1 - Scotty: 1
Horse #6 - Golden: 1
Horse #8 - Speedchuck: 3 - Long Con: 3

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:16 pm
by Tangrowth
I'll bet 2 chips on Horse 4.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:29 pm
by DharmaHelper
I bet:
Horse #3 - 1 Chip
Horse # 5 - 1 Chip
Horse #7 - 1 Chip

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:49 pm
by Long Con
insertnamehere wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:28 pmThe more bets there are on a horse, the lower the odds, and the odds increase if there are fewer bets
Does this mean that string-betting three chips a chip at a time on one horse changes the odds differently than a single bet of three chips?

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:30 pm
by insertnamehere
Long Con wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:49 pm
insertnamehere wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:28 pmThe more bets there are on a horse, the lower the odds, and the odds increase if there are fewer bets
Does this mean that string-betting three chips a chip at a time on one horse changes the odds differently than a single bet of three chips?
No. Payouts are calculated after Round 12 based on the total number of chips.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:34 pm
by DharmaHelper
The best part of this game so far is that I can't tell whether the complex, convoluted, confusing rules for each round are a result of the Korean gameshow or just INH.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:45 pm
by Scotty
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:34 pm The best part of this game so far is that I can't tell whether the complex, convoluted, confusing rules for each round are a result of the Korean gameshow or just INH.
When put a face to INH, I imagine he’s just a Korean David Lynch

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:48 pm
by insertnamehere
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:34 pm The best part of this game so far is that I can't tell whether the complex, convoluted, confusing rules for each round are a result of the Korean gameshow or just INH.
It’s a mixture of both. TBH, it’s probably 70% the show and 30% me. They actually didn’t say how the payouts were calculated on the show, so this is my best guess.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:51 pm
by insertnamehere
Scotty wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:45 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:34 pm The best part of this game so far is that I can't tell whether the complex, convoluted, confusing rules for each round are a result of the Korean gameshow or just INH.
When put a face to INH, I imagine he’s just a Korean David Lynch
That’s quite flattering, thank you.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:33 pm
by Golden
insertnamehere wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 10:50 am Also, players cannot directly quote or send screenshots of my hints.
What does 'directly quote' mean? I shared my hints with someone already.... is that different from directly quoting?

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:39 pm
by DharmaHelper
I took it to mean sharing hints is fine, as long as you don't screenshot the original PM or literally use the forum quote/forwarding feature to prove that it came direct from INH.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:41 pm
by Golden
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 3:39 pm I took it to mean sharing hints is fine, as long as you don't screenshot the original PM or literally use the forum quote/forwarding feature to prove that it came direct from INH.
Meh, you can forge the quote/forward if you really want to, but if that's what he means then phew.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:47 pm
by Golden
I'l bet one on horse 7 and one on horse 4

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:08 pm
by insertnamehere
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 3:39 pm I took it to mean sharing hints is fine, as long as you don't screenshot the original PM or literally use the forum quote/forwarding feature to prove that it came direct from INH.
Yep, that's correct.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:22 pm
by Scotty
Poor Horse 8. No love for horse 8

Live look of Horse 8:
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Dog food.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:35 pm
by DharmaHelper
6 chips is no love?

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:39 pm
by speedchuck
Is every phase 12 hours?

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:43 pm
by insertnamehere
speedchuck wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 4:39 pm Is every phase 12 hours?
Yep.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:45 pm
by Scotty
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 4:35 pm 6 chips is no love?
Ah shit

I meant horse 6. Let’s do a live look in of horse 6:
Spoiler: show
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Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:50 pm
by Spacedaisy
I bet one chip on 7, one on 2 and one on 6.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:27 pm
by EdJou
I make nachos with my chips.

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:47 pm
by Golden
EdJou wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 6:27 pm I make nachos with my chips.
Which meat?

Re: ROUND FIVE ♞ SCAMMING HORSE RACE

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:36 pm
by EdJou
Golden wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 6:47 pm
EdJou wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 6:27 pm I make nachos with my chips.
Which meat?
Horse