The Syndicate

timmer is a lying fraud ! sad

Doesn't even know the basic facts. Sad state of affairs, poor leaderfefe

It's being written that timmer might even be the Zodiac Killer whose father killed JFK.

The false posters have been very harsh on me. very harsh. Never before has someone been treated so unfairly

The people of the syndicate choose me to lead them in times of trouble. This is carnage ! Sad.

I alone can fix it.
I will make the Syndicate Great Again!

Golden better hope there aren't "tapes"

To all the haters and the losers get a life !

Dan Scavino, a great great man, is wroking on getting me graphics to post.

*checks reddit*

Timmer ignored my great points and now says he has evidence of "collusion". HOAX AND BAD

Crooked Timmer says that he read. If he did, he would know that Epi had this theory before!

Crooked Timmer! LIES. Pretending to catch up. BTSC helping him maybe!

Timmer sees collusion between me and Long Con to cover up for his own collfefe

I just saw on the television that Zodiac Killer might have been timmer!

I heard some very very very smart people think Timmer could even collude!

WRONG

FRAUD NEWS IS THE MODERN PRESIDENTIAL TERM

Cooked Tony is not ! good !
Timmer misled/didn't read. BAD

Jumpy eloh pretending she never jumped. What's new1?

I will have to vote before I leave !

No one is talking to me because they're jealous of my huge intellect!

I forgot to vote before work and then got durnk with friends my b would have voted for timmer

Why did everyone ignore me all day?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:05 pm More pressing issues?

Maybe no one took you seriously?

Then the baddies have won.

Timmer
Given his requesting replacement, I do hold judgment now. However, when I posted he had not done that. That's quite misleading that you'd conflate the two.
We've discussed this in the thread, but Timmer has a history of being "behind" when he is bad. Always catching up, never really contributing. Timmer claimed to have caught up, but didn't know that we had already looked into the origins of the curses or that I had discussed my parody of the president in a previous game. This indicates to me that he never really caught up, but rather, got a recap from someone else.

TSP
He claimed to know I wasn't on a certain baddie team, only to back off of it in the same sentence. He's on that team.

Golden
I still don't trust him, but will put him aside for now.

Wilgy
Wilgy is not contributing at all. That's unusual. I'd like him to.

Epi
Epi and Eloh came at me with suspicion because of a host mistake. Neither one really bucked the claim, just dropped it. They never said they were *wrong*. They were quick to jump to that conclusion. That doesn't wit well with me.
I was wrong about Eloh, but that doesn't mean it's nothing for Epi.

Sprityo
Sprityo admits he didn't take my posts seriously during the last day phase. That was the intent of the baddies who cursed me OR he just doesn't take me seriously and is going to lose because of that.

My communication was relatively unrestricted and I'm very annoyed people made no attempt at discourse with me and then will claim I don't go after anyone but Golden.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:09 pm

I didn't not say MYSELF did not taking you seriously, you asked an open question and I said a general answer as a suggestion, do not take things out of context

You didn't engage with me.
One only wonders...

HAHAA Dom was so funny as Trump!
Damn right.

But that was the point and you all fell for it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:21 pm Tony, walk me through your last second vote on INH, again. Convince me that wasn't an attempt to save LC.

I've already explained the vote, but I'll walk you through it again from a different side. If you still want me to explain the actual vote again I will.

Continuing your logic, let's assume I'm SMaf with Dom. Dom voted after me, so if he had voted for INH than INH would have five votes on him and would almost certainly be lynched. But this didn't happen. So if the plan was instead bus LC, I could had voted for LC in a vote that looks good since I've been attacking LC since day 1.

I don't see a reality where our votes pan out that way and we are w/w.

So Dom isn't SMaf, at least with me. That leaves you with one theory: SMaf was not trying to save LC. Since I'd have no reason besides being SMaf to try to save LC and if I was SMaf I was not trying to save LC, I was not trying to save LC. QED

You don't actually show I'm not SMaf here. You defend that you are not.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:38 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:20 pm My communication was relatively unrestricted and I'm very annoyed people made no attempt at discourse with me and then will claim I don't go after anyone but Golden.

I didn't do that today, and I understand that your stance on timmer could change.

I'm not challenging you right now, just trying to get some of that discourse you asked for going.

I understand. Not aimed at you-- aimed at everyone.

Can't tell if genuine...

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:13 pm The Night Vale City Council would like to remind you that you have about four hours to send in your PMs. Alternatively, you may whisper your night action into your phone or computer's speaker, as they are all bugged.

It is very insane what O got away with! Surveillance and unmasking! Words you never used to hear but now are heard more and more-- very often! Sad.

interlOPER

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:58 pm i just came here to have a good time and i am feeling so attacked right now

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:25 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:21 pm Tony, walk me through your last second vote on INH, again. Convince me that wasn't an attempt to save LC.

I've already explained the vote, but I'll walk you through it again from a different side. If you still want me to explain the actual vote again I will.

Continuing your logic, let's assume I'm SMaf with Dom. Dom voted after me, so if he had voted for INH than INH would have five votes on him and would almost certainly be lynched. But this didn't happen. So if the plan was instead bus LC, I could had voted for LC in a vote that looks good since I've been attacking LC since day 1.

I don't see a reality where our votes pan out that way and we are w/w.

So Dom isn't SMaf, at least with me. That leaves you with one theory: SMaf was not trying to save LC. Since I'd have no reason besides being SMaf to try to save LC and if I was SMaf I was not trying to save LC, I was not trying to save LC. QED

You don't actually show I'm not SMaf here. You defend that you are not.

Tony asked for this citation and then promptly ignored it.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:29 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:25 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:21 pm Tony, walk me through your last second vote on INH, again. Convince me that wasn't an attempt to save LC.

I've already explained the vote, but I'll walk you through it again from a different side. If you still want me to explain the actual vote again I will.

Continuing your logic, let's assume I'm SMaf with Dom. Dom voted after me, so if he had voted for INH than INH would have five votes on him and would almost certainly be lynched. But this didn't happen. So if the plan was instead bus LC, I could had voted for LC in a vote that looks good since I've been attacking LC since day 1.

I don't see a reality where our votes pan out that way and we are w/w.

So Dom isn't SMaf, at least with me. That leaves you with one theory: SMaf was not trying to save LC. Since I'd have no reason besides being SMaf to try to save LC and if I was SMaf I was not trying to save LC, I was not trying to save LC. QED

You don't actually show I'm not SMaf here. You defend that you are not.

Tony asked for this citation and then promptly ignored it.

Since no one else is commenting on this can someone explain to me how I'm wrong?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:36 pm My summary on this is basically:

- Look for Tamika in Eloh's suspects, as she was possibly role blocked
- In a situation where Eloh died as the result of a tie, it means that Marcus is one of sprityo and INH, and the Glow Cloud forced someone's vote away from TSP onto Eloh. This could mean that TSP is a teammate of the Glow Cloud.

Let's keep that to ourselves...

You also don't seem to understand the force vote unless you know something I don't.

Do votes after 4 count?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin

So..... any reason that you ruled me out as SMaf or?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:59 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin

So..... any reason that you ruled me out as SMaf or?

You are very persistent. JOH was giving three theories to explain LC's lynch. One of them was Dom is bad. One of them is SMaf thought INH was bad. One of them is SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. JOH had crossed off the legitimaely thinking INH was bad one because assuming Rico was good and because I didn't push on INH before that it wasn't plausible (for some reason-- honestly, this one still makes the most sense to me).
So from JOH's point of view there were two theories left. I pointed out that if you were bad with me we could have lynched INH. Since we didn't, we wouldn't be teammates on SMaf. Either of us could be on SMaf seperately. But as far as Jacks theories go, if you aren't bad that leaves him with SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. So no matter what role I was, I would have no reason to try to save LC. So that wasn't what I was doing.

1) Both of us could be sMaf but didn't save LC
2) Your wording was "Dom isn't SMaf--at least not with me"
Something tells me that last addition tells us everything we need to know.

You outed yourself.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 pm Dom isn't SMaf--at least not with me.
So Dom could be SMaf without me.

It implies you are.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:00 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:58 pmI think TSP, JoH, and Golden are all good lynch candidates?

I think you should catch up.

do you think he's really behind?


I am saddened by LoRab's death.

You're soooo bad.

Also I have no clue wtf is going on with this cecil stuff.

I have no clue waht y'all are talking about.

"Cecil is alive, Elo is Kevin"

This is the part where I'm like...

Ok cool but where the hell did that come from?

I guess I get the arguments that there's no way Eloh had time to write the Cecil posts.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:02 pm What i find interesting of the night results is Tamika killing timmer

what do we think of this considering the only person really gunning for timmer was Dom yesterday

I do not believe Dom to be Tamika

I'm not.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:52 pm "Cecil is alive, Elo is Kevin"

This is the part where I'm like...

Ok cool but where the hell did that come from?

Tony had the theory. Wilgy seems to have confirmed it. Then we got a message from Cecil overnight, suggesting Cecil is still alive.

It could be a massive team trick and Tony and Wilgy could be allies who know they get the power of Cecil after Cecil died, this is possible.

so what does that mean for tony?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:20 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:13 pmso what does that mean for tony?

For me, it means, I need time (or someone else with time) to figure out the viable reasons for Tony to know that Elo wasn't Cecil. I don't want to presume it means Tony is town (he could be politician still?) but I'm also not going to rush in to revote him when he could be providing evidence of his towniness.

linki @quin - I agree, at least that he could have inherited it today. In such a situation, Tony and DrWilgy would have to be the remaining two StrexCorp indulging in a bold play, no?

Could it be because he was on her team?

I'm missing hte nuances of this argument. Could Tony have known because they're teammates and he wanted to get some cred?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:16 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:13 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:52 pm "Cecil is alive, Elo is Kevin"

This is the part where I'm like...

Ok cool but where the hell did that come from?

Tony had the theory. Wilgy seems to have confirmed it. Then we got a message from Cecil overnight, suggesting Cecil is still alive.

It could be a massive team trick and Tony and Wilgy could be allies who know they get the power of Cecil after Cecil died, this is possible.

so what does that mean for tony?

It looks better, but not great. TSP could have (if I remember correctly) been on either mafia team. Now if he's mafia, he'd have to be on the politicians I think. And the politician argument for TSP was weaker than the Strex argument. But it was there.

I'll have to go back and look, and that sounds like a Monday thing.

I think the politician argument was stronger. He spent so much time trying to prove he wasn't Marcus, that doesn't prove he isn't a politician.

Can you explain why?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:44 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:20 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:13 pmso what does that mean for tony?

For me, it means, I need time (or someone else with time) to figure out the viable reasons for Tony to know that Elo wasn't Cecil. I don't want to presume it means Tony is town (he could be politician still?) but I'm also not going to rush in to revote him when he could be providing evidence of his towniness.

linki @quin - I agree, at least that he could have inherited it today. In such a situation, Tony and DrWilgy would have to be the remaining two StrexCorp indulging in a bold play, no?

Could it be because he was on her team?

I'm missing hte nuances of this argument. Could Tony have known because they're teammates and he wanted to get some cred?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:16 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:13 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:52 pm "Cecil is alive, Elo is Kevin"

This is the part where I'm like...

Ok cool but where the hell did that come from?

Tony had the theory. Wilgy seems to have confirmed it. Then we got a message from Cecil overnight, suggesting Cecil is still alive.

It could be a massive team trick and Tony and Wilgy could be allies who know they get the power of Cecil after Cecil died, this is possible.

so what does that mean for tony?

It looks better, but not great. TSP could have (if I remember correctly) been on either mafia team. Now if he's mafia, he'd have to be on the politicians I think. And the politician argument for TSP was weaker than the Strex argument. But it was there.

I'll have to go back and look, and that sounds like a Monday thing.

I think the politician argument was stronger. He spent so much time trying to prove he wasn't Marcus, that doesn't prove he isn't a politician.

Can you explain why?

If Tony was on Elo's team, why did he get her lynched? He seemed to control that lynch onto Elo, no?

Also, again, the reason why I don't think Tony is on that team is because of how much time he spent trying to prove he was not on that team (as opposed to trying to prove that he wasn't bad). I voted him yesterday precisely because that's the way I felt about his game to date, that he was fixated on proving he wasn't on one particular team, and any LD statements around that, that go with it.

That makes sense.
What points to him being a politician or is it just because he's acted so ridiculously suspicious?