The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:44 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:41 pm Kyle is like 10 right? DDL's kid?

Will you stop this before someone else buys it

DDL is 26...in hexadecimal

daddl's disappointed with me

Marmot stole my idea of hosting a mafia game where no one dies as a prank. >:( *votes Marmot*

I want to look at Jack today, I agree with K2 that something seems off about him.

I feel a little better about epignosis every time he says literally anything other than a defense against LC's thing which.... fuck, idk. I think maybe he's just weird. I think someone else pointed out though that without epigs bad responses the case is basically built out of mundane garbage

Mesk514 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:09 am also, fun fact.... i am actually in mountain time

Is mountain time in the Eastern Hemisphere? I thought it was in Montana for some reason.

Mesk514 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:47 amTbf, the most recent game i hosted had 750 posts and it was a 5 day long game.... We are only day 2 and this game has heavily surpassed that. I don't know any of you, I don't know your play styles, how you speak... how you act when you lie..... THAT is how I play mafia, like it or not. I see some of you referencing older games, I can't do that... You can't necessarily do that for me as well but let's chat lol. mind you as well I haven't been active, I apologize BUT it's just so overwhelming.

I can sympathize with you on this point. In a manner of speaking I'm kinda new here too. All those names up there? 3 weeks ago I only knew 6 of them. It's hard to get pushed into a new environment with unfamiliar unfamiliar meta's and weirdos and new names to learn and general game mechanics... It's overwhelming.

The thing is, i you use it correctly it can also be a tremendous strength. You have a unique set of mafia skills and experience that only you bring to the table, even if you don't have syndicate-meta knowledge yet. Sometimes examining people's behaviors without meta context makes scum moves easier to see.

I experienced the same thing when I played your game in sc2 and I used it to get away with playing passively, because I was a nasty crime murder boy and because it was easy. I really want you to be a townie so please do your best to prove to me that you're not doing the same thing here.

See but the thing is, that's exactly what you'd say if you were employing that strategy, isn't it? [mention]Mesk514[/mention]

I just want to see at least a few reads from you, even if they're not strong. What have you got to lose? You seem pretty well liked so far and I don't think anyone is inclined to lynch you 2 days into your first day here so.... Please? For my sake?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:16 am

Mesk514 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:06 am Shit... am i even allowed to swear...

This site has a "no asshatery" zero tolerance policy, so do not insult people. But throwing a couple non-directed swears every now and then is fine. We are all adults here

asshatery is a swear!

(excluding maybe Kyle but he doesn't count)

I'm older than you are dad, get out of my room and also off of my lawn >:(

Formatting hell

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:51 am I'ma kick today off with a rainbow, avoiding yellows to the best of my ability. with lots of yellows given the two replacements and extreme low posters. I hope to find a better place for them today.
Kylemii
Long Con
nutella
speedchuck
Spacedaisy
colonialbob
Dom
DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay
insertnamehere
sig
sprityo
Mesk514
Jackofhearts2005
Elohcin
Dragon D. Luffy
Sloonei
Epignosis

I will take questions. Unless your question is "Why do you have every read you have", in which case, suck a brick.

Hey Quin quick question but why do you have LC higher than nutella?

Hey Quin quick question part two why do you have ME higher than nutella?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:58 am Like if the idea is that baddies are vultures around Epi so Epi is good, why are the three of you not interested in catching those baddies?

referring to people who were okay with lynching epig as vultures probably prevented an epig lynch for better or worse.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:22 amI thought I saw the same pattern on Kyle vs Jack. Kyle argued some sub-optimal strategy (tieing votes) and Jack decided to argue with him for a long time about it. Or maybe Kyle posted it, Jack took the bait, and Kyle took the advantage to spend a long time arguing about it. Either way, the point is: if I see two players arguing for a long time about something not related to scumhunting, I will suspect at least one of them is wasting everyone's time on purpose. Hence my point.

for my part I just hate being talked down to and having my actions misrepresented like they were

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:09 pm I'ma talk about Mesk. I kind of didn't want to because I wanted to give her a chance to get situated, but this is as good an opportunity as any to get her talking.

So far her posts are mainly fluff and "I'm here!" type stuff. Lots of talk of playstyle and meta, not that much interaction with others or meat being churned out.

Where you at Mesk? I see that you don't like giving reads lists, but I hope I can expect some individual comments. Who's getting your vote today? Why?

I'm on this page too...

I want to get her talking because:

A. She seems cool and I'd like her to have fun here and continue to enjoy signing up for mafiagames her eon the mafiathesyndicate.com internet website, and I can't know for sure if she's enjoying it here if she doesn't play.

B. avoiding hunting because you're at a disadvantage is an easy tactic for wolves and it's liable to work for a little while.

I think statistically being thrown onto a mafia team would be much harder for a player in her position. It's a lot harder to pretend you can't figure out who's motivations are mafia-like when you already have the answer sheet.

[mention]Mesk514[/mention]

It's not even like she's new to mafia as a whole, she runs a mafia forum. I know she has something to contribute.

I didn't know Wilgy was playing in this game????

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:35 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:33 pm I didn't know Wilgy was playing in this game????

Actually he isn't, he forgot to use blue font.

he's on the player list dad don't embarrass me in front of my friends

It's troubling me cus the only Dr.Wilgy I know is Pirate Wilgy and that Wilgy, despite his frustrating smiley antics had a significant thread presence, and by the time of his death had a number of baddie reads most of which turned out to be correct

24 hours ago he said he was put on his frog suit and said it was time to get serious so I hope we see some content soon

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:09 pm My motivation was that Kyle just asked me to weigh in on stuff I had already weighed in on. So I was like "no."

Who was I gonna save?

I have a problem with this. You and I were talking about the usefulness of using close lynches as a valid scum hunting tactic in appropriate contexts.

I asked you why the discussion was so important to you that you felt the need to respond so passionately about it and you never responded. The moment I invited you to discuss the options for the current lynch you decided you were done for the night and left.

You don't get done discussing things. There's no such thing as being done with discussion.

There's no such thing as putting too much effort into ensuring a successful lynch.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:10 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:20 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:17 am ... I have never heard the terms "Good boys" "Bad boys" or "Wild boys" used here. Are you from an alternate reality?

It's gonna become the new thing. Just you wait.

What about Spicy Bois?

Wilgy gets it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:31 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:09 pm My motivation was that Kyle just asked me to weigh in on stuff I had already weighed in on. So I was like "no."

Who was I gonna save?

I have a problem with this. You and I were talking about the usefulness of using close lynches as a valid scum hunting tactic in appropriate contexts.

I asked you why the discussion was so important to you that you felt the need to respond so passionately about it and you never responded. The moment I invited you to discuss the options for the current lynch you decided you were done for the night and left.

Didn't I? And hadn't I already stated in extreme detail my feelings on LC, Epi and Nutella?

ISO me.

I literally just did. My point still stands.

"I've already said my opinions once so I refuse to think about them more or talk about them again when someone asks" is not a pro town attitude

especially when the person making the request is one of your town reads

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:56 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:31 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:09 pm My motivation was that Kyle just asked me to weigh in on stuff I had already weighed in on. So I was like "no."

Who was I gonna save?

I have a problem with this. You and I were talking about the usefulness of using close lynches as a valid scum hunting tactic in appropriate contexts.

I asked you why the discussion was so important to you that you felt the need to respond so passionately about it and you never responded. The moment I invited you to discuss the options for the current lynch you decided you were done for the night and left.

Didn't I? And hadn't I already stated in extreme detail my feelings on LC, Epi and Nutella?

ISO me.

I literally just did. My point still stands.

"I've already said my opinions once so I refuse to think about them more or talk about them again when someone asks" is not a pro town attitude

especially when the person making the request is one of your town reads

g o o f f

jack

what's this mean?

sorry, the extra space didn't show up -- it's supposed to say "go off" which is a phrase expressing support of a spicy callout. I am expressing support of Kyle's accusation of Jack here

Oh. I thought you were calling me a goof.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:11 pm @DrWilgy

Yes and yes.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:11 pm Self meta WIFOM anyway.

And he ignored me again :/

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:29 pm @Kylemii

It's nothing personal. I worked 30 hours in the last 3 days and just clocked out. My posts are alternating between the most recent thing aimed at me or that I find super interesting when I refresh the page and my catch-up from 5 pages back. I promise to answer you tomorrow or maybe even tonight. :cheers:

Alright.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:30 pm //Kyle what happened to your conviction? This doesn't feel the same Kyle that I met in Pirate mafia.

Is conviction something I had in pirates mafia? I would argue that the exact opposite is true. On the second to last day I didn't know who to lynch and almost died because of it, Speedchuck talked me into no lynching. We also lost partially because I didn't pursue my suspicion of Speedchuck on the final day.

I've been making a real effort to follow through in this game because of it.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:49 pmInteresting. Perhaps I was confusing conviction with rapid adaption. My observance of you was from a smiley posting ding dong. I was the ding dong. You, however, were fun to watch because I felt like I was watching you grow in the short span of time I was alive. You were watched by a ding dong.

On that day I thought you were easily the most frustrating player I'd ever met, but now you're one of my favorite mafia players of all time because you just said ding dong 4 times in a single post.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:52 pm Wilgy I ended up leaning more defense. I've definitely been frustrated before and defended myself with reasons that made sense to me but not others.

As an aside, I'ma vote Kyle.

"as an aside" please explain?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:54 pmJaggedJimmyJay calls his posts "puke" as though he hasn't had any opportunity to digest anything,

This was a pretty good joke.

8.5/10

Did Jack say he wouldn't be back before the lynch end? I was waiting on some answers.

Can someone please familiarize me with the Sloonei case?

Dom had this same level of participation 2 years ago too. It's actually kind of weird. He's like a cryptid.

I did an ISO on Sloonei and I guess..... Idk I wouldn't be opposed to his lynch today but Jack still bugs me for a lot of reasons so I'm putting my vote there

[mention]Mesk514[/mention]

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:11 am Hey, I missed the vote by 4 minutes. Sorry everyone. Gonna tell you who I would have voted for in a sec.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:12 am I would have voted for Jack. My posts will absolutely validate that.

Two questions:
What happened in the one minute between these two posts?
Why was it important to mention that your posts would validate your vote?

we have as many big boy mountains as we had at the start but more info than we did then, it's not all bad. it's kind of like we're having a week long day 1.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:43 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:01 am I did an ISO on Sloonei and I guess..... Idk I wouldn't be opposed to his lynch today but Jack still bugs me for a lot of reasons so I'm putting my vote there

Kyle tosses half-hearted support for lynching me into the thread before settling on Jack because he's not fulfilled his promise to share more reads yet. Jack would show up about an hour later to see himself tied with me for the lead in the poll.

I don't hate this vote from kyle, but I don't love it either. I can buy that he had reason to be wary of Jack, but I'm not sure I agree that Jack was the best option, and the way he tacked suspicion onto me near the end also could be read as covering all his bases. I'm not sure I'd agree with that notion, but it's a possibility.

I've had kyle as a town read and this analysis does only a tiny bit to move the needle in the opposite direction on him. Still town, but with a little more caution than before.

I got bad vibes from some of your posts during my ISO, but not others. I'd suspected Jack off and on for most of the game. When I mentioned you it was because you were in the lead of votes. I was this close to doing the regular "it's end of day let's overly scrutinize everything that's ever happened really quick and get really anxious for no reason " but then I realized that that sucks. So instead of doing that, I voted for Jack who was a suspect of mine and and was falling behind in the polls. I would have dug more into the case against you but I was tired. I also didn't vote for Jack for just not sharing reads, I voted for him because I didn't think he was viewing this game through a townie mindset based on his words and actions. I've since changed my views on you both.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:42 pmWho do you suspect now? Why has your view of Jack changed?

i spent most of yesterday playing hide and seek with a 6 year old who is very bad at it but I had to pretend like she was really good at it even though she kept hiding under the same table each and every time, but sometimes that's just how it is when you're 6, so I haven't had the time or energy to do much more than skim the thread recently.

I believe Jack to be civ because he implied that he knew he would survive the lynch. I think someone brought up some discrepancies in his behavior leading up to it that might imply that that wasn't the case so I want to make sure to look through that timeframe again myself.

I'm sure you probably mentioned this but is there a reason you did those for Jack voters and not your own voters?

I thought Sutter Buttes was the town lynch stop mountain

._. I've been misinterpreting the discussion this whole time

Endless night.

Marmot is out of town til monday so that's probably why the delay

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:16 pm Speedchuck ISO

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:40 am We have an hour and a half left. The top three vote getters are Nutella, LC, and Jack.

If the best person to lynch today is anyone but one of those three then we need to decide that now before we get caught up in some vote-rush shenanigans

Dis post pinged me, you know what I'm sayin'?

Kyle's post doesn't ping me but I worry this means Speed knows something I don't about the players in question.




Continuing...

What would speed know?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:55 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:36 am Marmot is out of town

Does that mean we all got mafia roles?

Wolves are, Marmot, Marmot, and Marmot

I'm probably gonna need a recap once things get started again

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:35 pm

Game Summary

Nothing has actually happened yet.

This is my favorite post in the entire game.

Invisabul vulture heds

Is Marmot okay?

I thought he said he was climbing a mountain so i was worried he'd been eaten by a bear or a big lizard

I might have just dreamed it

Alright so I'm gonna go ahead and officially call out [mention]Mesk514[/mention]

I recently had the privilege of seeing how a civvie Mesk in Instant Mafia IV and I would describe her as.... loud, aggressive, and almost adversarial at times. In this game she has accused basically no one and her most tangible action was buddying up to me.

I understand that this has been a fast moving game at times and I was laying off for a while since i'd never seen her actually play before and maybe she is just usually bad at keeping up, but now I have and I know that's not necessarily the case. I know that a civvie Mesk is capable of an activity level that pushes the thread forward and I'm curious why we're not seeing that here.

dunya, were you reading along with the thread as it went?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:00 pm dunya, were you reading along with the thread as it went?

some days/nights. When I had time and wasn't feeling groggy from the flu.
Don't worry, I'll be all caught up by tomorrow. 40+ pages is light reading for me.

I'm not worried. Jumping into ISO's seemed like a strange way to *begin* catching up unless you'd already read some and hand at least a little context so I wanted to veeymify