The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:26 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:55 pm @nijuukyugou if I am wilgy's teammate then that means I am also marmot's teammate.
what

oh right nevermind. Wilgy and Marmot were in the same mafia

nijuu was pub revealed as town.... what are the actual implications of that?

Nutella was a role that revealed a reversed alignment reveal. we thought she used it on Speedchuck but speeds reveal was actually real, right? implying that a role that gave a real flip does exist and that Nutella actually never used her power before dying. but then nijuu flip happened... which means either the role that flipped speedchuck was more than one-shot power or that there's a third role that does a similar thing to the other two

in any case we know this wasn't done specifically done by the wrong flipper, and the odds of there being two false flippers seems low, or at least lower than there being a 2-shot real-flipper. 3rd possibility would be an insane flipper but that would be stupid and impractical and wouldn't benefit anyone.

i'm inclined to trust this flip

apprehensively

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:01 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:50 am This is totally subjective on my part.

Let's start tossing out theories and punching holes in them, or finding things that back them up.
Here’s another one- Sloonei is an evil even.

We do still need to figure out who killed sprityo. I'm starting to think it might have been kyle.

wait why? i didn't actually read all the pikachu posts from after we arrived either what were the main data points on sprityo's death?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:02 pm Commander Sloonei
What brought about your idea
That Mii is evil?
It's not a fully assured idea yet, but it stems from process of elimination when looking at the Pikachu 2.0 crew. Same as what brought me to suspect wilgy earlier. If we assume that the Evil Evens killed sprityo, then there must have been an Even in Pikachu with us.

It is possible that we've been on the wrong path about this and that strex kills on even nights while the Evens kill on odd nights. It is counter-intuitive, but that might be the point. If it weren't for the theory about evens killing sprit, I'd probably not suspect anyone from Pikachu 2.0.

I should look back and see if there was any resistance to the nutella suspicion before she got blown up.

oh i see. but why are we making the assumption that sprityo couldn't have been killed by a Pikachu native?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:24 pm I looked at Pikachu for resistance to nutella suspicion. There wasn't any. I ISO'd Kyle and Scotty. Kyle made no mention of her whatsoever. Scotty had one foot on board the lynch train and seemed to be actively developing his reads. But I do want to point out that he also devoted a good amount of focus to smearing niju along with nutella.

hold on, wasn't nutella already dead when we got there?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:24 pm I looked at Pikachu for resistance to nutella suspicion. There wasn't any. I ISO'd Kyle and Scotty. Kyle made no mention of her whatsoever. Scotty had one foot on board the lynch train and seemed to be actively developing his reads. But I do want to point out that he also devoted a good amount of focus to smearing niju along with nutella.
hold on, wasn't nutella already dead when we got there?
come on man. I just posted a handy cheat sheet detailing this kind of stuff and it's only 4 posts up

sorry, wasn't there yet. :x your handy resource is beautiful

nutella died during the day phase before I really got my footing in the thread after the deluge of new content. I didn't feel qualified to give thoughts on players I didn't know the in-game histories of yet so I took more of a backseat, I'm not super positive that I even read some of these pages.

dom's early game contribution give me hardcore town vibes, is he still around

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:42 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:40 pm dom's early game contribution give me hardcore town vibes, is he still around
interesting. I felt the opposite. I felt he's been prickly and on edge all game.

But maybe that's his charming town side seeping through the cracks

also I have a civ lean on him right now

maybe it's cus i legit haven't seen him actually physically involved in a game in ~7 years so seeing him discussing things at all kinda sticks out as positive

what's the deal with DH and Negan Walkingdead

when does the shit start going down with long con? what page? it's starting to drag on

hang on things are getting good i'm gonna keep reading

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] did you really read all of this during the weekend you had full access or did you rely on the summaries they made

nutella wrote:prophetic dreams never work in mafia tbh, they're always wrong, just ask kyle (I forget which game it was, maybe fiddler, but he said he had a prophetic dream that LC was the indie or something and he wasn't, and also at some point I had a dream that DDL was bad in a game where he was most definitely town idr whatever continue your silly joke)

>:[

how long did it take for anyone to be nightkilled in pikachu? there are people who are for real under the assumption that people were dying in both tribes and just not being told about it? and the night kill results were shown in the opposite tribe?? how would that even work? why was that ever considered to be a realistic assumption

hitting pause, pg 33. halfway there

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:37 pm @Sloonei did you really read all of this during the weekend you had full access or did you rely on the summaries they made
wut

of pikachu

oh nevermind you only had to read the first 3 pages lol

phases

I have no idea why "evening the playing field" would be a reason to lynch Sloonei.

like I get the idea is "sloonei's never died once and many others have died once or twice, let's string him up so we're all on the same level so it's fair or something" but that makes no sense from the mindset that we're working together towards a common goal

Sig's statement on Sloonei irks me for that reason, because balance shouldn't factor in to anything at all. if Sloonei is a bad then yes he should be lynched for that and stripped of his first and second lives but if he's civ, then him having two lives is an important asset.

viewing things in terms of balance gives off an aura of like..... almost an indie perspective?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:46 amKyle is also pretty null, and someone I plan on ISO'ing at some point.

hold on, why am I null? you had opinions about me earlier on didn't you?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:15 pmI feel like I'm laying out my goddamn mind in this thread like it's a sushi roll and IT'S NOT THE CALIFORNIA KIND, MARCIE

what kind of roll is it? I enjoy your metaphors

Pikachu catch up has limited utility rn. I'm gonna review Scotty and sig and I guess whomever the heck else becomes relevant in the next couple hours

can someone actually link me to the cases against sig and Scotty respectively?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:13 pmI think the Scotty case is just POE. The people voting for him, as I understand are, have narrowed down the suspects from Pikachu 2.0 to you and Scotty. They seem to prefer lynching him.

what were the factors that removed the other 4-5 players from the poe pool on this? are they solid? is it legit just me and him that can possibly be sprityo's killer?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:13 pmI think the Scotty case is just POE. The people voting for him, as I understand are, have narrowed down the suspects from Pikachu 2.0 to you and Scotty. They seem to prefer lynching him.
what were the factors that removed the other 4-5 players from the poe pool on this? are they solid? is it legit just me and him that can possibly be sprityo's killer?
The other three are me, Epi, and Daisy. Those two are probably my strongest town reads. If you have an argument against any of us, make it.

I don't, but I thought you were talking about a near-certainty. If sprityo's killer can really be narrowed down to just me and Scotty then it would have to be him, by proc of elim

voting sin aubergine [VOTE: sig ] aubergine voting sig

reviewed INH's case and I feel comfortable voting there. Scotty looks bad due to the process of elimination but I'm not 100% sold on it and he brought up a good point that some of the players who were eliminated from the murdersuspectpool have town credit for their efforts in lynching strexcorp rather than the evens.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:15 pm Ok so we’re doing this. It’s either me or sig today?

If I get lynched before sig in this game, I don’t even know why I try. It’s like nothing I’ve said has mattered
I wasn't convinced that scotty was mafia but this post is fairly scummy.

Look at the people who pushed me for dumb reasons and look back over the day lc was lynched and see who was on my wagon than and now.

I don't think inh js mafia based off how long he's been pushing me, sloonie could be just due to his progression on reading me which has always been odd and opportunistic

ok I'm still here actually. tell me why I should vote for scotty over you

sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:22 pm Oh and kyle that was a weaksauce vote.

If i put on the tinfoil hat I'd say epi and potentially svs. But I'm not really feeling that.

Also not happy no vet commeted on doms meta, his posts are off

I didn't even vote yet. Is Scotty more likely to flip mafia than you are?

sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:26 pm Though i could allso see us both flipping civ anyone in the mood for a cfd :P

on who

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:31 pm I'm kind of feeling like Kyle's posts in this day of the lynch are making me think Sloonei might be right about him.

he's 100% not

uh.... depending on which thing that he said that you're talking about

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:42 pm can we lynch one of my suspects tomorrow please

who

[quote]became a fisherman{/quote}

what

oh fuck

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:53 pm Heyyyyy! Let's look at our friend Kyle through a lens I used on INH. Since it would appear you lot are narrowing it down to us tomorrow.

First, the theme:
Kyle wrote:I didn't know Wilgy was in our tribe???

Boomslang wrote:Kyle: Yeah, I do think your Wilgy comment is a baddie ping. It suggests that you've been playing the game opportunistically rather than paying closer analytical attention. If you were really trying to solve the game, you'd be taking stock of all the players in it.
So I'm going to look at Kyle here as a credible witness (for you lawyers out there).

As we can reference, LC was brought down because he knew too much. On the flip side, one could say that Kyle knows too little.

cbob wrote:If we were teammates nutella wouldn't have been the one hit by my bomb

Kyle wrote:what bomb?
.
Scotty wrote:if sig is bad, and on strexcorp, then we’re assuming he used his power on Wilgy, his partner. I do not think he would do that, or even pretend to.

Kyle wrote:sig's power?
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Marmot wrote:Didn't realize we were allowed to talk about the puzzles publicly.
I would like to share that I completed and submitted the sudoku within 10 minutes of receiving it.

Scotty wrote:Gettin that civ cred, eh?
I also submitted my puzzle within 10 minutes, but I’m not using that as a credibility to my civness.

Kyle wrote:what puzzle?

Kyle wrote:i remember sloonei winning a contest and getting to snoop on this place but i don't remember any of the specifics of it, nor do i remember sudoku being involved
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Sloonei wrote:@nijuukyugou if I am wilgy's teammate then that means I am also marmot's teammate.

Kyle wrote:what

Kyle wrote:oh right nevermind. Wilgy and Marmot were in the same mafia
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Kyle wrote:i'm also not super comfortable giving reads on any of these new folks given that I haven't actually read any of this thread yet

Kyle wrote:I also like.... low-key don't remember the names of like 60% of our former tribemates.
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Sloonei wrote:I looked at Pikachu for resistance to nutella suspicion. There wasn't any. I ISO'd Kyle and Scotty. Kyle made no mention of her whatsoever. Scotty had one foot on board the lynch train and seemed to be actively developing his reads. But I do want to point out that he also devoted a good amount of focus to smearing niju along with nutella.

Kyle wrote:hold on, wasn't nutella already dead when we got there?
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Kyle wrote:I like to ask a lot of questions to find out what's important and what I should focus on during my digs so I can be more efficient and only spend time on things that are worthwhile or relevant. work smarter not harder is like 90% of my strategy in everything in life.
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Ok, so second, I must preface that Kyle has already shared that he's disengaged, and has offered to try harder. The guy was throwing up most of the first few days, was divided in other games, became a fisherman, and then was behind 60 pages. I can understand that. I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt, though frustratedly. But from my perspective, and this is the tough love- it's just not all there on the surface. But I feel like he knows more than he lets on.

It's very likely that by playing dumb (I'm not calling you dumb- Want to be clear that I think you're playing dumb) he can easily skate by on his ignorance. Like a good corporate exec can talk their way out of embezzling $12 billion by saying 'I do not recall,' kyle has an out that basically says, 'i wasn't really engaged nor did I read that thing you're talking about.'

In this way, a bad kyle won't get caught because there's nothing to catch him for.

If he was the only Evil Even on Bidoof 1.0 (and that's a BIG if), then the first 3 kills are easily explainable for even a hapless bystander. All it takes is a few rainbow lists or brief perusal of the most talkative players and he can identify who looks the towniest- me on N2, sprityo on N8. Maybe he didn't submit a kill on N10? Who knows.

So like. How long do we wait for Kyle to find his voice? He said he felt like a passenger, and in many ways he has been. I can see him as a perfunctory Even that has been pleading dumb in order to never implicate himself or appear too boisterous.

i want to point out that several of those questions were for the purpose of understanding things i was missing the context of. the wilgy comment was clearly rhetorical and meant to convey a point rather than actually being a question. also the specifics of the the puzzle thing was literally never even discussed in our thread. so that was actual brand new information.

i also.... won't be shamed out of asking questions. obviously the ideal way to play is to read everything and generate one's own thoughts but in the absense of that, asking questions and getting clarification is way more efficient than going out of my way to find the same information. it would take like.... 10 minutes to dig through the 3 different threads that this game is to figure out what was meant when someone mentioned sig's first role power. clicking the quote button and typing "yo what power" took like.... 10 seconds, and achieved the exact same result.

Ben Linus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:22 pmSo let's chat. Who wants to share a story about their first tattoo?

i have a tattoo
octopus drinking some tea
cus fuck it, i guess

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:06 pm So Quin, guess we work together today. Who are you feeling a vote for? I'm sure we can settle on someone we both are comfortable with. I hope.

I mean, we're as cool as this dog...

That's one very cool dog.

See? We got this Quin.

huh... that dog *is* cool.
cool cool cool cool cool cool dog
thank you for this dog(?)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:09 pm I have no opinion of my own on colonialbob. I would like to hear whatever thoughts you guys have about him so that I may have a point of entry and we can organically work our way into a conversation about him and other possible suspects.

Pretend I am a new player just wandering into this game right now.
If you have no opinion, then how did you get his name out of your magician’s hat?

And you’re not a new player. You’ve been around as long as I have. You’re not catching up like Kyle
Because he's someone who other people are naming as a suspect. I've had no firm reason to read him as town, but I also don't have a firm reason to read him as scum.

I'm not catching up like Kyle. I'm not going to. I don't like catching up. It's a waste of time and I prefer to work my way back into games directly with conversation.

i have not found my
time catching up to be a
weak experience

reading all the shit
first-hand has given context
to strangers' viewpoints

hey sloonei what was....
the last game where you were bad
when was it, my dude?

scotty has laid out
some things that made me feel bad
about the sloonei

Sloonei could only
be one of the bad evens
right? is that correct

when marmot was slain,
Sloonei was the guy with the
hefty battle axe

when 'Helper said "hey,"
"these new guys are bad news, man"
Sloonei made a list

an even sloonei
would want to keep the fuzz off
his 5 list did that...

only, it is a
list clearing folks for good feels;
antiquated vibes.

as far as we know
cerb; never lynch an even,
pikachu no strex

it would be easy
for Crime to maintain the mask
with no risk to self

sloonei's responses
while I typed these poems out
have felt genuine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:28 pmKylemii - Kylemii had nothing to say about nutella or Long Con in Pikachu. sprityo was killed on Night 8, an even Night in which Kylemii was present in Pikachu.

long con was long dead,
nut was dead before I was-
able to bite down

my greatest hits are
all cool dogs that I've met once
in my life. five dogs.

one a dog. and two?
another dog! what about...
three through five? all dogs.

what is the case on
lorab? I get the deal with
Scotty. three. more. words.

nice!!

I missed the vote, sorry. I made the critical error of curling up under some blankets during my catch-up and then fell asleep for two hours

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:34 pmYeah I’m voting Kyle tomorrow and so should you.

i have a major objection to that plan 0:

what does hitless player mean

oh, the lists. oh wow

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