The Syndicate

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:51 pm DDL read Nova's ISO again. You will see muchos scum hunting imo.

The burden of proof belongs to whoever says something exists.

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:57 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:31 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:25 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:14 pm I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused

Everything you’ve asked is surface level and doesnt go deeper than that. The whole conversation with epi felt like a weird attempt at questioning, and then the lol at the end doesnt make sense to me.

Why do you think JJJ should be town read?

the dude is clearly more interested in his own sense of privilege than actually talking to another person as an equal (sorry if that's a bit harsh)

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:02 pm I am 100% certain Jack is town.

Why?

Because Jack is the easiest player to read in the entire world.

is this a serious read

if so are you able to words about it

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:02 pm I have never seen Epi treat anyone the way he is treating Luxurious. It's almost like he ... likes you?

Is that a good or a bad thing

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:51 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:02 pm I am 100% certain Jack is town.

Why?

Because Jack is the easiest player to read in the entire world.

is this a serious read

if so are you able to words about it

When Jack is Mafia he plays more carefully and less fancy free. He has a common town meta as Mafia and is more comfortable and loose when he is town. As town he is also want to give more phoned in efforts when as Mafia he has his game face on 25/8.

This reads that he plays like scum when he’s town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:51 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:02 pm I am 100% certain Jack is town.

Why?

Because Jack is the easiest player to read in the entire world.

is this a serious read

if so are you able to words about it

When Jack is Mafia he plays more carefully and less fancy free. He has a common town meta as Mafia and is more comfortable and loose when he is town. As town he is also want to give more phoned in efforts when as Mafia he has his game face on 25/8.

You know, 6 months ago, my scum meta was that I didn’t give a shit and just posted memes.

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:54 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:51 pm DDL read Nova's ISO again. You will see muchos scum hunting imo.

The burden of proof belongs to whoever says something exists.

I don't care enough about defending him to go and pull posts for you. If you don't give enough of a fuck about being right then that says more about you than me.

i mean, it's kind of reasonable of him to ask for where you think nova has been scumhunting

it's hard to pull quotes of not-something

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:57 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:31 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:25 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:14 pm I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused

Everything you’ve asked is surface level and doesnt go deeper than that. The whole conversation with epi felt like a weird attempt at questioning, and then the lol at the end doesnt make sense to me.

Why do you think JJJ should be town read?

the dude is clearly more interested in his own sense of privilege than actually talking to another person as an equal (sorry if that's a bit harsh)

This is a fair description of how Epignosis plays Mafia.

Different guy outside the game but no, you pretty much summed it up.

as either alignment?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 am I really like these new people. They have personalities, and confidence... it's almost like they are real functioning humans.

Can you be a little less vague and give some more specifics? Like which newer peoples you find townie and what not and which regular folk are more so not human like?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:09 pm *is temporary voting no lynch*

I still want blood this day phase (so I'll be voting for someone else) so that I'll know if my reads are on the right track or if I need to reassess things.

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:02 pm I have never seen Epi treat anyone the way he is treating Luxurious. It's almost like he ... likes you?

Is that a good or a bad thing

I would say it's a good thing for you because if he is town I trust his judgement more than most and if he is Mafia I don't think he'd be as blatant at drawing connections between you two.

That being said I did have a conversation with him recently in which he claimed that he prefers to be on Mafia teams that work in union.

so you do have powerwolfing here

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:23 pm Let me say it in other words.

Nova asking questions is not a reason to scum read him. It is also an argument that I was tempted to make when I was scum because I had nothing better to say.

Weak case making dressed in the guise of good case making.

DDL is bad. Back to DDL.

Do you give the slightest sliver of a shit that nova is voting for you?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:33 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:02 pm Jay why are you ignoring my existence? I have two votes and you have said diddly squat to me? Do you fear me?

I've been devoting my attention primarily to the newer people. What do you think of those votes on you? I checked your own post history up to the point of this gripe you've directed upon me.

nova: you seem to be his best friend. He voted for you quite a while ago, and your responses were " " and "why r u voting me bb".

RDW: you called him a traitor. The end.

I don't see much indication that you've said diddly squat to the two voters about whom you are implying I should care enough to myself say diddly squat.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:54 am What the fuck? How far do you have to reach to give Owner town points for such an asinine post? Jfc.

Do you gripe with Epi's rationale?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:01 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:57 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:54 am What the fuck? How far do you have to reach to give Owner town points for such an asinine post? Jfc.

Do you gripe with Epi's rationale?

Yes it's insincere as fuck and you agreeing with it is also dumb. "Oh Owner looks town because he saw a soft mac post and made a big deal out of it".

That's called false scum hunting. it's what Mafia players do. Because they have to fake it. So they hone in on hollow nothingness just like that.

Isolating unique civilian indicators that other people wouldn't mention/notice/care about is something I expect from modern era Epignosis. I don't think the notion is absurd, or at least not any more absurd than the notion that it must instead be a mafia indicator.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:05 am What kind of BS doublespeak is this? I never said it "must" be. I pointed out that what Owner did has clear and obvious scum motivation and should not be given any kind of civ clearance. It's one thing for Epi to do it, but for you to see that post and agree with it rather than seeing what I see is major .

Yeah I don't care about your flailing hands emoji. Just about any post in the universe "can" have a scum motivation. Who gives a shit? The point of this game is to make judgments.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:11 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:05 am What kind of BS doublespeak is this? I never said it "must" be. I pointed out that what Owner did has clear and obvious scum motivation and should not be given any kind of civ clearance. It's one thing for Epi to do it, but for you to see that post and agree with it rather than seeing what I see is major .

Yeah I don't care about your flailing hands emoji. Just about any post in the universe "can" have a scum motivation. Who gives a shit? The point of this game is to make judgments.

So it's okay for Epi and you to point at an asinine post and give in townie points but when I point out the scum motivation in the very same post "who gives a shit".

It almost feels like you are intentionally refusing to see my point for some reason Jimbob.

You're not giving me a judgment. You're telling me about what a post "can" be. I don't care about that. Any post can be anything. Do you think the post is suspicious or not?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:15 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:14 am Okay Trump

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:12 amDo you think the post is suspicious or not?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:43 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:37 pm I caught up this morning and found myself having to realign my reads.

Nova looks super solid in light of the ultra lynch.

Epi looks a little fishy for trying to piggyback on my nova case.

Still don't like Owner.

Not getting a good vibe from Soneji. Him having a low post count is normal, but he normally comes at the end with a bunch of attacks against players and is sure of thing. Here he feels more... basic.

Mac is giving me a civ vibe. Compared to the other game where he was very tame, here he's pissed off. I like pissed off Mac.

RDW needs to come down to the playground.

Neutral on the rest.

Why is Nova super solid? I’ve played two days of another game and read most of Nutella’s champs D1 since this thread closed.

It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.

The wagon was the towncore (Speed/Jack/Lux), Jay (who Ultra was after and who was probably the nk), and Nova.

You think there were no wolves on Nova’s wagon?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:55 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:53 pm I don't care what happened last DP. I'm talking about the now.

That's a load of BS.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:05 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:26 pm First of all, you protected JJJ over Nova? Second of all, how do you know the heal was successful? Could be more reasons for why nobody died last night aside from you protecting your target.

I still sus Owner and DDL pretty heavily. RDW is someone I'm taking interest in as well. I'm finna go back and read Ultra's interactions.

This whole post bugs me, particularly the highlighted bit. Did you try to kill me instead of nova to avoid this result?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:02 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:24 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:11 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I don't believe your progression on Ultra.

What's unbelievable about his progression on ultra?

Had him green after their early spat, reiterated by saying he liked his (Ultra) "assertive" tone. Never hit back at the bogus suspicions which had me unsettled, and he only started viewing him bad when I prodded him about further. He stated the lack of progression of Ultra's read even though, Ultra hadn't posted in between "I like his assertive tone" and my prodding of Jay I believe.

I'm a sucker for a new guy who wants to get in my fucking face from the start.

As it happened though, that was the only thing he seemed to care about in his posts. He picked me as punching bag based on that "chainsaw defense" thing and did not move from it. I made note of that here -- as a day progresses, the value wanes and it just becomes nothing. It ended up being about the only thing the guy did in this game. As EOD approached (and my own requirement to decide a vote approached even sooner), I was confronted with wagons on Ultra, nova, and Owner and decided he was my preference among them.

Hooray.

I don't see any interactive analysis. Civ Jay would have had those made during the night, and ready to publish at first light

You must be bad.

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:35 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:55 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:53 pm I don't care what happened last DP. I'm talking about the now.

That's a load of BS.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

I do not like this vote

Why is Dragomir town?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.

We got one.

Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?

With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:35 pm

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 pm

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:58 pm

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:54 pm One thing that concerns me about JJJ's town read of me: he knows I play exactly the same way regardless of alignment

Why concern then

Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.

The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??

I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.

So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?

What do you think, Dragomir?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:20 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:17 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:16 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:02 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:29 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.

You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.

Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.

So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:05 pm Hey JJJ wants the point of all the analysis if you’re just gonna be like “they could be teammates but they could also NOT be teammates”

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:09 pm

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:04 pm You can see below Ultra just subtly pushing Jay off of DDL while at the same time buttering him up. Why did Ultra feel the need to make the first post? The second seems to be hard defending of DDL while accusing Jay of the very same. It's quite masterful.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.

We got one.

Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?

With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:35 pm

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 pm

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm
Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.

The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??

I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.

So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?

What do you think, Dragomir?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

More examples.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

This one is good because it also contains some dribble placeholder text about NF that adds nothing which is similar to something Jay literally caught me for in the other game. Overexplaining.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:20 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:17 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:16 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:02 pm
I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.

You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.

Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.

So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?

Above you can see DDL went hard at Nova yesterday. I think he ended with his vote there.

Ultra then gets lynched making Nova nigh unlynchable. What would you do if you were DDL and you were Mafia?

Then what would you do if a townie came out and you see them mistakenly townclear Jay of all people.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

I think that DDL and co. shot at Nova and I think DDL made this post to prevent a towncore forming around Jay.

Every time I relook at the role list these kinda theories seem more and more plausible.

Why does DDL start to form a towncore around Nova then? What does he gain by saving someone he just tried to kill? DDL couldnt have predicted Nova coming in and voting JJJ off the bat like that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:11 pm I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:38 pm Please let's lynch DDL. There's not a speck of townie on him.

-Opportunistic jump on speedchuchk's bait and according from others, chuck is renowned as someone who hates no lynching so I'm not understanding how he doesn't see it as a joke.

-His post explaining why there could be a reason for wanting to no lynch is illogical in itself and a big contradiction to his previous actions. Not to note, he completely ignored it and is trying something now against Novas.

-His retreat after being confronted for his vote on Chuck was just bad. It just reeked of trying to appear better after realizing how bad they looked for what they did. This kinda self-awareness is very much from a scum POV and him admitting to it ain't really that much either as something so obvious, you're better off admitting then trying to find excuses.

-Now he's making a rather weak case against Novas, coming to this conclusion from Mac calling him out. Seems like the dude was trying to make a meta read that didn't work. Mans trying to get some town cred after doing much of nothing else huh? It ain't working fam.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:13 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:11 pm I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.

Kindly fuck off.

I don't do it any other way.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.

I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.

Why?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.

I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.

Why?

You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.

So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:27 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.

I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.

Why?

You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.

So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.

You have been an antagonistic civilian for the years I have known you and all of a sudden you are civ clearing people. This is not town Epi.

And what do I do when I am mafia?