MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]

[Epignosis]

Interactions of Ultra and Epignosis


Nothing from Ultra.

Nothing from Epignosis.

~~~

Conclusion: They're technically compatible teammates in the absence of a tangible reason to the contrary. I don't think total ignorance is generally Epi's style though.

This is true, but I might point out that regardless, I do not lynch new people on their first Day on The Syndicate.

[Luxurious]

Reading up and see her reads go final brain expansion meme with emoji reads really got me good

If she is a civ, that wouldn't be the first time she gets mislynched for that in 2019.

Are you telling me that wasnt a joke post

[Epignosis]

Sorry Jay I am going to do my own analysis. I don't have the mental capacity to absorb yours.

You mean you aren't smarter than a fifth grader?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sorry Jay I am going to do my own analysis. I don't have the mental capacity to absorb yours.

Wonderful, fabulous, fantastic.

[speedchuck]

I saved JJJ last night.

That you've blurted this out promptly despite the ambiguity of a non-kill in this setup strikes me as a genuine instinct.

This setup is honestly crap lol.

Agreed.

Agreed.

wtf

[Luxurious]

I caught up this morning and found myself having to realign my reads.

Nova looks super solid in light of the ultra lynch.

Epi looks a little fishy for trying to piggyback on my nova case.

Still don't like Owner.

Not getting a good vibe from Soneji. Him having a low post count is normal, but he normally comes at the end with a bunch of attacks against players and is sure of thing. Here he feels more... basic.

Mac is giving me a civ vibe. Compared to the other game where he was very tame, here he's pissed off. I like pissed off Mac.

RDW needs to come down to the playground.

Neutral on the rest.

Why is Nova super solid? I’ve played two days of another game and read most of Nutella’s champs D1 since this thread closed.

It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.

Why do you think that??? You were voting Nova at eod i’m kinda curious as to why you think mafia would kill Nova > JJJ

Cuz anyone who lynches nova is out of their mind.

While we are discussing the Jay lynch as of right now.

Okay I’ll explain to you why your answer is awful

1) Nova was a wagon yesterday, mafia would expect for town to lynch Nova eventually due to wagonomics

2)In the off chance mafia, DOESNT, expect this, they suck

3)JJJ was the highest poster, with Ultra as a scum read. While he voted Gemma, his vote ultimately ended up on a mafia.

4) While Nova DID push Ultra the hardest, JJJ wasnt at risk of being lynched, bringing it back to wagonomics of Nova

So like, why the fuck would mafia kill Nova > JJJ

I'm confused, were you not suggesting before that my JJJ save didn't make sense?

I wasnt trying to insinuate that no. I think protecting JJJ makes a lot of sense.

Im just like, concerned kinda

[Dragomir]

First of all, you protected JJJ over Nova? Second of all, how do you know the heal was successful? Could be more reasons for why nobody died last night aside from you protecting your target.

I still sus Owner and DDL pretty heavily. RDW is someone I'm taking interest in as well. I'm finna go back and read Ultra's interactions.

This whole post bugs me, particularly the highlighted bit. Did you try to kill me instead of nova to avoid this result?

The hell is this question?

I don't know why Gemma is required to protect nova.

I didn't say she was required to pick him. I just find Nova a better pick than you to protect.

Now, I'll be gone till morning.

My reads. Owner, DDL, and Jack are scum. Also, I feel sad how y'all are ignoring what I pointed out about Ultra and Owner being buddies.

[MacDougall]

DDL is scum. Incoming wall of destruction.

[Epignosis]

I saved JJJ last night.

That you've blurted this out promptly despite the ambiguity of a non-kill in this setup strikes me as a genuine instinct.

This setup is honestly crap lol.

Agreed.

Agreed.

wtf

Are you here to defend the setup or find mafia?

[speedchuck]

I came into this day planning to go after Owner.

But as it turns out, Jack is scum. So there's that.

I'll try to figure out how to explain why.

linki: You're a lot more bold about this kind of thing than I am, mac

linkilinki both

[Epignosis]

Somebody give me a progressive rock album to listen to.

[speedchuck]

Somebody give me a progressive rock album to listen to.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Reading up and see her reads go final brain expansion meme with emoji reads really got me good

If she is a civ, that wouldn't be the first time she gets mislynched for that in 2019.

Are you telling me that wasnt a joke post

Yes.

She has a real game theory on the psychological meaning of emojis and images people post.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My reads. Owner, DDL, and Jack are scum. Also, I feel sad how y'all are ignoring what I pointed out about Ultra and Owner being buddies.

I'll get to it. Meanwhile, shout your read into the heavens. Let it never be unheard. Be the voice that cannot be ignored.

[Dragomir]

I came into this day planning to go after Owner.

But as it turns out, Jack is scum. So there's that.

I'll try to figure out how to explain why.

linki: You're a lot more bold about this kind of thing than I am, mac

linkilinki both

They're both scum, so it's fine.

[Luxurious]

I came into this day planning to go after Owner.

But as it turns out, Jack is scum. So there's that.

I'll try to figure out how to explain why.

linki: You're a lot more bold about this kind of thing than I am, mac

linkilinki both

Does that mean you also think DDL is scum

[novaselinenever]

Interactions of Ultra and Epignosis


Nothing from Ultra.

Nothing from Epignosis.

~~~

Conclusion: They're technically compatible teammates in the absence of a tangible reason to the contrary. I don't think total ignorance is generally Epi's style though.

This is true, but I might point out that regardless, I do not lynch new people on their first Day on The Syndicate.

What if you're playing with mostly new people, and the few regulars are town read of yours?

[Epignosis]

Somebody give me a progressive rock album to listen to.

I said "progressive rock."

[novaselinenever]

Checkmate.

[Epignosis]

Interactions of Ultra and Epignosis


Nothing from Ultra.

Nothing from Epignosis.

~~~

Conclusion: They're technically compatible teammates in the absence of a tangible reason to the contrary. I don't think total ignorance is generally Epi's style though.

This is true, but I might point out that regardless, I do not lynch new people on their first Day on The Syndicate.

What if you're playing with mostly new people, and the few regulars are town read of yours?

I lynch myself.

Fuck outta here.

[Luxurious]

Reading up and see her reads go final brain expansion meme with emoji reads really got me good

If she is a civ, that wouldn't be the first time she gets mislynched for that in 2019.

Are you telling me that wasnt a joke post

Yes.

She has a real game theory on the psychological meaning of emojis and images people post.

I didnt wanna hear that today please

[novaselinenever]

I saved JJJ last night.

That you've blurted this out promptly despite the ambiguity of a non-kill in this setup strikes me as a genuine instinct.

This setup is honestly crap lol.

Agreed.

Agreed.

wtf

Are you here to defend the setup or find mafia?

The irony.

[Epignosis]

Hi Jack.

I have voted for you.

[Luxurious]

I came into this day planning to go after Owner.

But as it turns out, Jack is scum. So there's that.

I'll try to figure out how to explain why.

linki: You're a lot more bold about this kind of thing than I am, mac

linkilinki both

They're both scum, so it's fine.

Where did your idea of jack being scum start? D1?

[speedchuck]

I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

Or the mafia chose not to kill.

I caught up this morning and found myself having to realign my reads.

Nova looks super solid in light of the ultra lynch.

Epi looks a little fishy for trying to piggyback on my nova case.

Still don't like Owner.

Not getting a good vibe from Soneji. Him having a low post count is normal, but he normally comes at the end with a bunch of attacks against players and is sure of thing. Here he feels more... basic.

Mac is giving me a civ vibe. Compared to the other game where he was very tame, here he's pissed off. I like pissed off Mac.

RDW needs to come down to the playground.

Neutral on the rest.

Why is Nova super solid? I’ve played two days of another game and read most of Nutella’s champs D1 since this thread closed.

It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.

The wagon was the towncore (Speed/Jack/Lux), Jay (who Ultra was after and who was probably the nk), and Nova.

You think there were no wolves on Nova’s wagon?

You're rewriting D1 here.

"Towncore" Jack didn't do anything to push Ultra's wagon. He jumped in after Speed and I.

"Towncore" Lux magically understood the case on Ultra 5mn before EoD.

"Who was probably the nk" Jay was very all right with Ultra going after him. Liked his "assertive tone", had him green and jumped in not long before EoD after being prodded.

What are you trying to do?

You can’t make me take back my reads!

Defense played for overeggageration, laughs

Lux I suspect you are getting bias from your initial sight of Jay exploding a thread.

If you look around you, you'll notice there are people who think Jay is not exploding the thread hard enough.

Laughing at the same old things.

Just feels off to me. Like... Jack is funnier when he's town, instead of having these jokes that defend him and prod at normalcy.
Screw it, call this a toneread. Jack trying to play too casual after two phases of tremendously bad luck

[novaselinenever]

I came into this day planning to go after Owner.

But as it turns out, Jack is scum. So there's that.

I'll try to figure out how to explain why.

linki: You're a lot more bold about this kind of thing than I am, mac

linkilinki both

Gemma's defense when no one was actually pushing her, a rewritten history of D1?

He retreated as fast as he came out this phase.

[speedchuck]

Somebody give me a progressive rock album to listen to.

I said "progressive rock."

Wow, three minutes. Sure gave that one a chance.

[speedchuck]

I came into this day planning to go after Owner.

But as it turns out, Jack is scum. So there's that.

I'll try to figure out how to explain why.

linki: You're a lot more bold about this kind of thing than I am, mac

linkilinki both

Does that mean you also think DDL is scum

I've been entertaining the possibility since early D1, when I trapped him all weirdly. I scumread, but I am not sold on it. Looking forward to the mac attack.

[Luxurious]

I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

Or the mafia chose not to kill.

I caught up this morning and found myself having to realign my reads.

Nova looks super solid in light of the ultra lynch.

Epi looks a little fishy for trying to piggyback on my nova case.

Still don't like Owner.

Not getting a good vibe from Soneji. Him having a low post count is normal, but he normally comes at the end with a bunch of attacks against players and is sure of thing. Here he feels more... basic.

Mac is giving me a civ vibe. Compared to the other game where he was very tame, here he's pissed off. I like pissed off Mac.

RDW needs to come down to the playground.

Neutral on the rest.

Why is Nova super solid? I’ve played two days of another game and read most of Nutella’s champs D1 since this thread closed.

It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.

The wagon was the towncore (Speed/Jack/Lux), Jay (who Ultra was after and who was probably the nk), and Nova.

You think there were no wolves on Nova’s wagon?

You're rewriting D1 here.

"Towncore" Jack didn't do anything to push Ultra's wagon. He jumped in after Speed and I.

"Towncore" Lux magically understood the case on Ultra 5mn before EoD.

"Who was probably the nk" Jay was very all right with Ultra going after him. Liked his "assertive tone", had him green and jumped in not long before EoD after being prodded.

What are you trying to do?

You can’t make me take back my reads!

Defense played for overeggageration, laughs

Lux I suspect you are getting bias from your initial sight of Jay exploding a thread.

If you look around you, you'll notice there are people who think Jay is not exploding the thread hard enough.

Laughing at the same old things.

Just feels off to me. Like... Jack is funnier when he's town, instead of having these jokes that defend him and prod at normalcy.
Screw it, call this a toneread. Jack trying to play too casual after two phases of tremendously bad luck

Why does everyone use meta give me something on Gemma’s Level 1 scale that i can understand

[Epignosis]

Somebody give me a progressive rock album to listen to.

I said "progressive rock."

Wow, three minutes. Sure gave that one a chance.

I own the album. The triology, in fact.

[Luxurious]

I came into this day planning to go after Owner.

But as it turns out, Jack is scum. So there's that.

I'll try to figure out how to explain why.

linki: You're a lot more bold about this kind of thing than I am, mac

linkilinki both

Does that mean you also think DDL is scum

I've been entertaining the possibility since early D1, when I trapped him all weirdly. I scumread, but I am not sold on it. Looking forward to the mac attack.

I’ve gotten the feeling that he like, knows too much in regards to Gemma but idk I managed to push that off a bit after reading some of his other posts

[speedchuck]

Spoiler: show

I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

Or the mafia chose not to kill.

Why is Nova super solid? I’ve played two days of another game and read most of Nutella’s champs D1 since this thread closed.

It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.

The wagon was the towncore (Speed/Jack/Lux), Jay (who Ultra was after and who was probably the nk), and Nova.

You think there were no wolves on Nova’s wagon?

You're rewriting D1 here.

"Towncore" Jack didn't do anything to push Ultra's wagon. He jumped in after Speed and I.

"Towncore" Lux magically understood the case on Ultra 5mn before EoD.

"Who was probably the nk" Jay was very all right with Ultra going after him. Liked his "assertive tone", had him green and jumped in not long before EoD after being prodded.

What are you trying to do?

You can’t make me take back my reads!

Defense played for overeggageration, laughs

Lux I suspect you are getting bias from your initial sight of Jay exploding a thread.

If you look around you, you'll notice there are people who think Jay is not exploding the thread hard enough.

Laughing at the same old things.

Just feels off to me. Like... Jack is funnier when he's town, instead of having these jokes that defend him and prod at normalcy.
Screw it, call this a toneread. Jack trying to play too casual after two phases of tremendously bad luck

Why does everyone use meta give me something on Gemma’s Level 1 scale that i can understand

It's not really a meta read. It's a toneread with a small nod to meta. I pointed out motive and emotion.

[speedchuck]

Somebody give me a progressive rock album to listen to.

I said "progressive rock."

Wow, three minutes. Sure gave that one a chance.

I own the album. The triology, in fact.

Wait there's a third one?!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Ultra and Gemma


Nothing direct from Ultra. This may become a trend given his narrow focus.

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

did you forget that you were townreading that player

No. Because I'm not.

I have some town pings from them, but I mentioned something scummy as well. If it continues, their need to cling to and buddy Nova will easily outweigh any town cred they have.

can you explain how you got to the opinion that ultra is using nova as a clutch and how that makes him more likely to be mafia

Gemma dug in a bit on speedchuck for his read of Ultra. This means more re: speedchuck, and I am not inclined to take much from it.

Spoiler: show

I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused

Technically a defense of Ultra. I do think the basic premise of Gemma's question is fair. It's also an easy question to ask. Meh.

Spoiler: show

vote: ultra

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

i agree that was a bad vote dot tm

Gemma dropped a vote on Ultra in response to his vote for me. This followed soon after speedchuck questioned the vote and Jack criticized it. Gemma was following the flow of momentum here. It'd be nice to know what the tally looked like in this moment.

Spoiler: show

I hate her post about the Ultra case.

i dislike that she skirted around commenting on the ultra read, but i don't really have a problem with her saying that you're not a wolf with ultra.

I believe this is in reference to Owner. Sometimes the context is difficult to ascertain given Gemma's style for scatter-posting (this is not a criticism, do your thing). There is both shade and defense for Owner by way of the latter's handling of Ultra and the Ultra case. I could assert there's an effort here to draw a link between Owner and Ultra, and that can be a teammate thing. It's not something that inspires confidence in me as I type it.

~~~

Conclusion: I find some of this difficult to interpret. I can make a case that they're teammates, and that's enough for POE purposes. Gemma may be best judged at face value.

[Epignosis]

Somebody give me a progressive rock album to listen to.

I said "progressive rock."

Wow, three minutes. Sure gave that one a chance.

I own the album. The triology, in fact.

Wait there's a third one?!

Not officially. Destined Solitaire was heralded as a Part III but it's obviously not that.

[Epignosis]

Fuck it. I'm listening to Part Two now.

[Luxurious]

Spoiler: show

I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

Or the mafia chose not to kill.

It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.

The wagon was the towncore (Speed/Jack/Lux), Jay (who Ultra was after and who was probably the nk), and Nova.

You think there were no wolves on Nova’s wagon?

You're rewriting D1 here.

"Towncore" Jack didn't do anything to push Ultra's wagon. He jumped in after Speed and I.

"Towncore" Lux magically understood the case on Ultra 5mn before EoD.

"Who was probably the nk" Jay was very all right with Ultra going after him. Liked his "assertive tone", had him green and jumped in not long before EoD after being prodded.

What are you trying to do?

You can’t make me take back my reads!

Defense played for overeggageration, laughs

Lux I suspect you are getting bias from your initial sight of Jay exploding a thread.

If you look around you, you'll notice there are people who think Jay is not exploding the thread hard enough.

Laughing at the same old things.

Just feels off to me. Like... Jack is funnier when he's town, instead of having these jokes that defend him and prod at normalcy.
Screw it, call this a toneread. Jack trying to play too casual after two phases of tremendously bad luck

Why does everyone use meta give me something on Gemma’s Level 1 scale that i can understand

It's not really a meta read. It's a toneread with a small nod to meta. I pointed out motive and emotion.

I think your tone read is based on meta, hence the small nod?

Like i understand the, he’s playing too casually, he’s not really here and is more or less making jokes and not contributing anything, side of it

Why does he lynch Ultra there? For town credit?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm sticking a compilation of the final votes here for my own reference.

Soneji - Dragomir
Dragomir - DDL
MacDougall - Epignosis
Owner - Epignosis
rundontwalk2 - MacDougall
DDL - nova
Epignosis - nova
Gemma - Owner
speedchuck - Ultra
Luxurious - Ultra
nova - Ultra
Jack - Ultra

[MacDougall]

You can see below Ultra just subtly pushing Jay off of DDL while at the same time buttering him up. Why did Ultra feel the need to make the first post? The second seems to be hard defending of DDL while accusing Jay of the very same. It's quite masterful.

Yeah okay.

We got one.

Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?

With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

One thing that concerns me about JJJ's town read of me: he knows I play exactly the same way regardless of alignment

Why concern then

Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.

The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??

I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.

So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?

What do you think, Dragomir?

Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

More examples.

Possibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Defend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

This one is good because it also contains some dribble placeholder text about NF that adds nothing which is similar to something Jay literally caught me for in the other game. Overexplaining.

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.

You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.

Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.

So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?

Above you can see DDL went hard at Nova yesterday. I think he ended with his vote there.

Ultra then gets lynched making Nova nigh unlynchable. What would you do if you were DDL and you were Mafia?

Then what would you do if a townie came out and you see them mistakenly townclear Jay of all people.

I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

I think that DDL and co. shot at Nova and I think DDL made this post to prevent a towncore forming around Jay.

[Luxurious]

Hey JJJ wants the point of all the analysis if you’re just gonna be like “they could be teammates but they could also NOT be teammates”

[MacDougall]

Hey JJJ wants the point of all the analysis if you’re just gonna be like “they could be teammates but they could also NOT be teammates”

Welcome to the wonderful world of Jay.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey JJJ wants the point of all the analysis if you’re just gonna be like “they could be teammates but they could also NOT be teammates”

I prefer to construct a POE (hi speedchuck). If all I find are a handful of people who look good, then that's still productive. Who knows what the rest will tell me?

Some ambiguity is to be expected given the mafioso had like 20 posts and only talked about three people during his lifespan.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

[Luxurious]

Spoiler: show

You can see below Ultra just subtly pushing Jay off of DDL while at the same time buttering him up. Why did Ultra feel the need to make the first post? The second seems to be hard defending of DDL while accusing Jay of the very same. It's quite masterful.

Yeah okay.

We got one.

Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?

With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Why concern then

Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.

The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??

I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.

So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?

What do you think, Dragomir?

Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

More examples.

Possibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Defend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

This one is good because it also contains some dribble placeholder text about NF that adds nothing which is similar to something Jay literally caught me for in the other game. Overexplaining.

This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.

You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.

Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.

So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?

Above you can see DDL went hard at Nova yesterday. I think he ended with his vote there.

Ultra then gets lynched making Nova nigh unlynchable. What would you do if you were DDL and you were Mafia?

Then what would you do if a townie came out and you see them mistakenly townclear Jay of all people.

I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

I think that DDL and co. shot at Nova and I think DDL made this post to prevent a towncore forming around Jay.

Every time I relook at the role list these kinda theories seem more and more plausible.

Why does DDL start to form a towncore around Nova then? What does he gain by saving someone he just tried to kill? DDL couldnt have predicted Nova coming in and voting JJJ off the bat like that.

[Epignosis]

Thanks speedchuck- I'm enjoying this way more than I did when it came out.

[MacDougall]

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] yesterday you were desperate for DDL to get lynched. What has changed?

[Epignosis]

I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.

[Luxurious]

Hey JJJ wants the point of all the analysis if you’re just gonna be like “they could be teammates but they could also NOT be teammates”

I prefer to construct a POE (hi speedchuck). If all I find are a handful of people who look good, then that's still productive. Who knows what the rest will tell me?

Some ambiguity is to be expected given the mafioso had like 20 posts and only talked about three people during his lifespan.

Okay so you are doing something with them.

I was reading Gemma’s again and ended up wondering why you think face value was more important than interaction, especially if there’s an attempt for one teammate to interact and the other one isnt.

[MacDougall]

Spoiler: show

You can see below Ultra just subtly pushing Jay off of DDL while at the same time buttering him up. Why did Ultra feel the need to make the first post? The second seems to be hard defending of DDL while accusing Jay of the very same. It's quite masterful.

Yeah okay.

We got one.

Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?

With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad

Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.

The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??

I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.

So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?

What do you think, Dragomir?

Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

More examples.

Possibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Defend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

This one is good because it also contains some dribble placeholder text about NF that adds nothing which is similar to something Jay literally caught me for in the other game. Overexplaining.

I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.

You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.

Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.

So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?

Above you can see DDL went hard at Nova yesterday. I think he ended with his vote there.

Ultra then gets lynched making Nova nigh unlynchable. What would you do if you were DDL and you were Mafia?

Then what would you do if a townie came out and you see them mistakenly townclear Jay of all people.

I saved JJJ last night.

Or someone roleblocked the killer.

I think that DDL and co. shot at Nova and I think DDL made this post to prevent a towncore forming around Jay.

Every time I relook at the role list these kinda theories seem more and more plausible.

Why does DDL start to form a towncore around Nova then? What does he gain by saving someone he just tried to kill? DDL couldnt have predicted Nova coming in and voting JJJ off the bat like that.

Why does Nova's vote on JJJ need to be a thing to justify his behaviour towards Nova?

Stage 1 - Fail to mislynch Nova
Stage 2 - Lose a scum teammate who had been hard defending you that simultaneously makes Nova look amaze
Stage 3 - Shoot at Nova and fail
Stage 4 - ... continue to try to attack Nova?

He feels like he has no choice but to flip his position on Nova. But then when he sees Jay getting incorrectly town cleared... that signals disaster.

[MacDougall]

I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.

Kindly fuck off.