The Syndicate

dunia told me if i defend her in-thread she'll give me a vest

guys stop

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:27 pm current bargain pool: [tutuu, LC]

would prefer a 3rd name so less chance mafia NK my slot

questions/concerns answered based on searching "alison" in the thread (if I missed something ping me):

- tim asks why I would claim as 3P, because mafia is forced to NK me and then I lose. answer: because protective roles exist, because my role has the power to redirect nightkills away from me baked into the mechanics, and because scum might not be a bunch of cowards and might try to power wolf and get the power given to them instead of taking the easy way out. I'm not contributing to the thread or doing any solving, so they would much rather shoot actual townies that helps them reach parity. at any rate, what alternatives do I have? if I try to play townie I get shot, if I play scummy I get exed. would much rather openly claim and try to get a free win, just like the original gambit demon did.

- sloonei is worried there might be dangers to my role I haven't disclosed. check shadow corridors for some suggested strategies to leash a 3P claim. also, tutuu suggested making me bargain with people in the POE, so if there's anyone who's going to suffer from taking that deal, it'll be scummy people anyway.

- general tinfoili from a couple of people that I could be mafia fake claiming 3P: I think it is actually fucking insane to win best mafioso award on the syndicate and then hard commit to a strategy that involves taking a completely hands-off approach to the thread that gives up all ability to influence it in any way in the future, on post 1. like, whatever WIFOM or trust or leeway I get from claiming 3P is not worth the ability to not be able to manipulate people and push a scum agenda by talking in the thread. #2435 by sloonei points this out.

see you all the next time I check in

DrWilgy

why y'all caring so much about role source anyway

it's just noise

not even good noise

noise like a shart

stop it

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:38 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:37 pm also what power should I give tonight?
the only pro-town thing is tracker right?
I can give each power once only, so I can only make one person a tracker. but no, I have bus driver and doctor in there too.

Do these powers replace the person's preexisting power, or supplement it?

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:41 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:33 pmto put it bluntly, the alignments of the players in this game are irrelevant to my win condition, and I don't want to incentivize the mafia to kill me.
Are you enjoying your role? Like, do you find it fun?

She has no intention on reading or participating so I'm guessing no

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:09 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:07 pm oh wow i really popped off,

mac, change ur vote
what
vote for an actually scummy player like....hmmm

Tim?

opportunistic lol

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:02 pm yo, how does town normally win multiball set ups?

like when town wins is it normaly just mafia dogging it out and town surviving or Towncore flanking both sides? what's the trick here? Ofc town always needs to baddie hunt or w/e but so do the wolves. What does town need to do that scum doesn't?

I've played one multiball and it involved Askthepizzaguy single-handedly bending both wolf teams over

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:13 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:10 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:02 pm yo, how does town normally win multiball set ups?

like when town wins is it normaly just mafia dogging it out and town surviving or Towncore flanking both sides? what's the trick here? Ofc town always needs to baddie hunt or w/e but so do the wolves. What does town need to do that scum doesn't?
I've played one multiball and it involved Askthepizzaguy single-handedly bending both wolf teams over
Yeah like that doesn't surprise me. It was probably an MU game and the mafia were probably mostly memesters that prefer playing mashes and turbos. This is the GoC.

CFC game, and I was one of the wolves

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:38 am The postcounts tells me a story of town Nutella even if I didn't read most of her posts
There is no way in top posters is not a wolf, but I doubt is her

Spoiler: show

Tim's ability to top-post with no content and without following along whatsoever is amazing

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:32 am @Long Con who is mafia?

@Jackofhearts2005 who is mafia?

@MartinGG99 who is mafia?

who let the dogs out?

hello everyone, time to read six pages

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:48 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:47 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:41 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:38 am MR and 112 having a ton of experience with each other and being at each others throats ought to indicate at least 1 wolf there, not impossible for 2
Whilst in this case I agree there's one wolf between us, we've tricked each other so many times over the years that it usually takes us a full round or two before truly finding each other as town. We tend to be a bit hesitant in first.

Also I wouldn't characterise it that way. She's not at my throat - she TRs me in fact.
Can you share some reads?
No.

radish is my dad, actually

cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:06 am Syn is still not being townie either.

hello random shade

thank you for protecting me from the sun's violent rays

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:45 am Pulp Fiction >

pulp fiction is a crappy movie

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 am
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:06 am Syn is still not being townie either.
Talk to me about this. I thought syn was pretty townie so far

nevermind, pulp fiction is great, please keep loving me JPIC

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:41 pm Yeah tbh, I’m not a fan of that post where Tutuu expresses desire for more death. Slips don’t exist tho.

tutuu is known for her bloodthirst

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:26 pm Only 1200 new posts.

Did anyone mafia-claim in there?

yes, you did

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:09 pm I'd like to hear from people who know Nutella and scumread her, since I'm not seeing it at all.

cuz she's wolfin'

112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:18 pm dizzy literally openwolfing

there are like seven people openwolfing, this means nothing

112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:24 pm kill nanook/dizzy/MAYBE (huge maybe) tim tonight

ez game

are you trying to coordinate night kills

what

page 69 nice

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:37 pm Nutella is town here, I think. I mean firstly there's the obvious mountain of content. 9% of this thread is just posts by nutella. secondly she her posts and logical processes are things I follow and understand.

I've also found her to seem 'opportunistic' as town I don't think that's alignment indicative

only villagers post a lot

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:37 pm Nutella is town here, I think. I mean firstly there's the obvious mountain of content. 9% of this thread is just posts by nutella. secondly she her posts and logical processes are things I follow and understand.

I've also found her to seem 'opportunistic' as town I don't think that's alignment indicative
only villagers post a lot
This sarcasm? I’m pretty dense

yes very much so lol

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:30 pm Y’all do know there’s gonna be a day 2 right?

Y’all’s stamina is crazy

it's considered expert-level play to try and make it so you don't survive to D2

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:46 pm Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show
So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

boy do I love associatives D1 before any flips and while knowing the person in question has openly stated they aren't reading shit until someone has died

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:53 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:50 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:46 pm Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show
So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

boy do I love associatives D1 before any flips and while knowing the person in question has openly stated they aren't reading shit until someone has died

not a whine, just a keen observation that anything you have to say is meaningless

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:07 pm JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:09 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:07 pm JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town
You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?
The 3 are low posters ig

~400 posts between them all

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:13 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:07 pm JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town
You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?
Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3

I would, but then I'd be ISOing, and that would be simply unacceptable

anyway, I don't think you can read nearly 400 posts in 10 minutes and come away with real reads unless there's something glaring, which you didn't indicate

you hyped up this whole process for it to just be a gut percentage read, which you could have done without the pretense

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:19 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:17 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:13 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:07 pm JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town
You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?
Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3
Why on earth do you want to yet a claimed indie
Did I vote for you? Do I not have you at a 40% chance of being town?

Holy moley, sorry I didn't see you as a lock town 100% never gonna give you up die by yer side Bonnie Tyler holding out for a hero kinda read, but hey them's the breaks kid.
You avoided the question. Why are you voting out a claimed indie
I'm not voting for you.

JPIC isn't a claimed independent

rofl

falcon plummeting for me rn

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:24 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:20 pm falcon plummeting for me rn
How can I plummet for you if I never ascended to begin with?

I don't think I've posted reads, so there's no way you could know where I had you

down with Tim

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:50 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

You my friend are the real woof here.

lol

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:53 pm @Syn

If I piggyback your read and try to kill someone over it are you gonna get all Synical on me?

killing nutella is good and we should all do it

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:00 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:53 pm @Syn

If I piggyback your read and try to kill someone over it are you gonna get all Synical on me?
killing nutella is good and we should all do it
Not the read I'm talking about.

then I don't care

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 pm i thought about suggesting we play mafia inside mafia, i rand and i say roles under spoilers and honor system. but then i thought... do u guys wanna play mafia inside mafia inside mafia? so the thing i described except in the new mafia game we rand another mafia game

no

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:59 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:50 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

You my friend are the real woof here.
lol
The claim: You've spent a good portion of the game interacting with tim and tutuu (as I would kinda expect) in a mostly jokey manner, and while you've offered some reads, they've been of the one-worder variety: town or scum, and not engaging in deeper discussions of alignment.

Your defense?

I don't see anything to defend myself against there

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:15 pm Unless we slam dunk we probably shouldn't kill Nutella today cuz its too good a result for the Mafia.

No offence to everyone else.

it's a slam dunk

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:40 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:15 pm Unless we slam dunk we probably shouldn't kill Nutella today cuz its too good a result for the Mafia.

No offence to everyone else.
it's a slam dunk
You believe you have slam dunked Nutella here?

ye, you should vote her

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:57 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:36 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:59 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:50 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

You my friend are the real woof here.
lol
The claim: You've spent a good portion of the game interacting with tim and tutuu (as I would kinda expect) in a mostly jokey manner, and while you've offered some reads, they've been of the one-worder variety: town or scum, and not engaging in deeper discussions of alignment.

Your defense?
I don't see anything to defend myself against there
why do you keep repeating "nutella wolf" with no reason

cuz you're wolfin'

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:57 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:36 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:59 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:50 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

You my friend are the real woof here.
lol
The claim: You've spent a good portion of the game interacting with tim and tutuu (as I would kinda expect) in a mostly jokey manner, and while you've offered some reads, they've been of the one-worder variety: town or scum, and not engaging in deeper discussions of alignment.

Your defense?
I don't see anything to defend myself against there
why do you keep repeating "nutella wolf" with no reason
One of my wild theories is that Syn is an indie lyncher who is trying to get you yeeted.

what is a lyncher

google says condemner

you'd think I'd be putting in more of an effort if that were the case

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:09 pm So Made and Tutuu have scumreads on each other. Noted.
probably w/w tbh

this but unironically

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:42 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:31 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:27 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:15 pm @falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?
I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.

BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day
I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.
1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.

You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.
I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.
Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

no

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:46 pm Correct me if I am wrong but it feels like you’ve been after nutella since lime the start of the game

you're not wrong

she's wolfin'

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:47 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:29 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:29 pm I have no read on Hyena presently.
that's because you haven't read
Okay, so, I continued skimming through Tim's ISO for a bit, and I saw this.

@Syn Are you suggesting that people should have a read on me if they have read the game/my posts?

what kind of a question is this

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:07 pm Sup

nm u

I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:16 am
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:08 am I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay
pointless seems subjective, that was informative

might as well just copy paste a lorem ipsum generator

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:26 am
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:08 am I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay
Yes

why do you guys let her do something so pro-wolf

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