The Syndicate

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:06 am

Herm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:02 am Nutella seemed to give up on trying to lynch me when Alison started to call him/her out on it a bit, saying I was clearly town.

can someone verify this? i wonder if this indicates herm is town because nut got scared off from pushing him when alison told her no. if herm was scum too and it was just distancing, would nut care if alison objected?

More relevant...if a pack mate is getting protected by a towncore, wouldn't Nutella just shrug and walk away? I mean, that seems good enough to go do something else.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:12 am

Herm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:10 am Guys, if you want to ask questions I'm right here lol.

Nah nah that's not how it works. You just have to do things and let me stare at you like you're a giraffe at the zoo.

Be careful, when you gaze into the giraffe the giraffe gazes back into you.

Wouldn't want your neck to get stretched.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:17 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:05 am I've watched you play champs and enjoyed it SPF but I gotta say it's nice to experience it first hand. You're enjoyable to socially deduce with.

likewise! i believe this is my first experience with you but i very much dig your playstyle

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:05 am I've watched you play champs and enjoyed it SPF but I gotta say it's nice to experience it first hand. You're enjoyable to socially deduce with.

she’s a joy isn’t she

y'all are gonna make me blush

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:06 am

Herm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:02 am Nutella seemed to give up on trying to lynch me when Alison started to call him/her out on it a bit, saying I was clearly town.

can someone verify this? i wonder if this indicates herm is town because nut got scared off from pushing him when alison told her no. if herm was scum too and it was just distancing, would nut care if alison objected?

it's partially true. this was nutella's reaction to alison tr'ing herm:

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:18 pm still not really feeling it re: herm but alison seems really confident

you could say that this is when nutella "stopped pushing" on herm, but she was never really pushing on him in the first place as much as she was very gently shading him

hm idk i can see that both ways. like i can see it as nut being scared off from pushing town!herm because alison objects or nut looking for an excuse to stop distancing from scum!herm and using alison as an out

how much pressure was nut under when she started pushing herm? if it was before she got a lot of heat, it’s probably less likely to be distancing. if it’s after she started getting voted it could be anti-spew maybe

I had Nutella as most likely chop pretty early. It was pretty clear none of the towncore was going to shield her, and none of the other possibilities had anyone on them that really seemed to have the combination of credibility and inclination to make a real push. I'd be reading Nutella as anti-spew very early assuming the wolves had someone who could read the room.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:19 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:00 am I especially want people who aren't the town core that have clearly shared their reads to do this exercise too lol

If you wanted me to participate you made the wrong first group.

I don't understand this post Tim. What do you mean?

I mean the first group is loaded to confirm the answer you want. But I did play along, so all is well with the world.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:27 am I stacked group one that way very on purpose Tim.

I knew that. I just wonder what the purpose is. Now I wonder if I should have played along differently. But if I should have then you should have just ignored me, or snarled at me for tunneling you, or whatever.

Sorry.

A'ight, I'm gonna take my condemned wolf ass off to a break, in hopes that I can come back and interact with some of the not currently here folk.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:06 am I'm voting for my scumreads, nobody has to join me if they don't want to

VOTE tim and spf

Could you elaborate on these scum reads? When I flip green I wouldn't want anyone to think you were just a wolf opportunistically hopping aboard.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:16 am That claim by tim is horrendous, if I was town in his position my role would be all I'd be talking about. Very slapdash

Other than being a really cool word that carries plenty of emotion without any particularly specific meaning, why would you say horrendous?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:19 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:16 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:06 am I'm voting for my scumreads, nobody has to join me if they don't want to

VOTE tim and spf

Could you elaborate on these scum reads? When I flip green I wouldn't want anyone to think you were just a wolf opportunistically hopping aboard.

I've been against you since the start so you can't say that I'm opportunistically hopping on your wagon, everything about your play screams wolf to me. I even think nutella put a vote on you last minute as a form of misdirection


spf is trickier to explain, deepwolfing or whatever. I can feel it

Okay, so you have been opportunistically pushing for me as a mischop right from the start. Cool, that's kinda exactly what I have thought about you all along.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:23 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:18 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:16 am That claim by tim is horrendous, if I was town in his position my role would be all I'd be talking about. Very slapdash

Other than being a really cool word that carries plenty of emotion without any particularly specific meaning, why would you say horrendous?

It has a specific meaning, it means incredibly bad. That's what your claim was. It boils down to scum exist, not sure how many. Could be 4 or 5. That's not even a claim, that's just guessing ratios

And I get stronger the more dead townies there are, no other details just the implication that townies need to die. I don't like that implication

Why wouldn't you like that? That's what an anti-snowball roll does, if the wolves are doing well, I as a towny get stronger. If the wolves get off to a bad start as they did, I as a town PR get weaker. Pushes against swing.

You really are committed to claiming that everything I say is bad no matter how it conflicts with reality, aren't you?

By the way, other than tunneling me and vaguely "feeling" deep wolves, have you at any point taken any kind of committed stance on anything in this game?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:34 am Somebody scumreading me would know

True.

I do.

You haven't.

Just wondered if you would lie about it.

Oh, hey, you did tunnel JPIC too...for no discernible reason beyond convenience. I get it man, a wolf in this game really just needs to look for a townie that towncore is sussing and "lead the charge." Props for good wolfing. I mean it's kinda low level but in this environment it's probably effective...at least until the town core starts looking beyond themselves for the causes of some green flips. Whatcha gonna do then?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:46 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:30 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:28 am Oddmerta, I trust you and I'm here to townshield you, but other people don't. I need you to step it up and show them what you've got so they can see the light and know you're town.

What is your view on the decision between SPF/nutella/JPIC wagons?

They are all scum so it's not even a decision, more like a lineup

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:24 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:18 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:17 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:11 pm I'm town, not mafia, not rogue. If I was scum there wouldn't even be a towncore I would have destroyed it already.

What I am doing is coasting off of early townreads

didn't you say previous games meta means nothing to you? why should we believe you eaxctly?

*exactly

besides,

what are your current reads?

Nothing much has changed, I'd say timsup, staypositive, nutella and jpic are all on a team together. Jpic looks like a bomb to me

Oddmerta isn't teammates with nutella. Moving on.

LOL...you are townclearing him for that? You really do think that nobody ever distances?

Nah, this is some elaborate charade.

Okay, carry on.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:50 am You really gonna push Oddmerta for pushing on JPIC day 1? Everyone pushed on JPIC. JPIC openwolfed. You seem desparate Tim.

Yeah...everybody did push on JPIC...and everybody did push on Nutella....and everyone pushed on me.

Gosh, what a big, bold, stepper this Oddmerta is!

Oh, wait...

Yeah..."I agree with everything the towncore says and eventualy they "mindmeld" me into the town core. Gosh, what an advanced wolf play. Certainly see why you think that's beyond him.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:53 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:17 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:02 pm This is why nutella is scum, they never challemged any of the votes against them. Always going for people not on their wagon.

At 1 vote is where you start challenging but they let it get all the way up to 11 votes. As town surely you would do something about the people voting for you, 3 votes, 5 votes, 8 votes, 10 votes. It's not a runaway wagon at all, it's an unchallenged one

bro i was asleep when most of the votes appeared on me

I think there were like 4 when i went to bed so i was like kinda concerned but def didn't seem like a runaway until i woke up

How bout this then?

What about it? What do you expect a wolf to say to their partner with eleven votes on them? "Hang on Nutella!!! I'mma comin' to the rescue!!!" LOL...c'mon man, you're better than this.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:54 am Oddmerta is 40.4817° N, 74.9699° W

What does this mean?

Location on the Locktown Church in Locktown, Pennsylvania...while clever, it's still based on bullshit.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:58 am You're not even actually trying to evaluate. Your options are so appallingly limited that you've got no choice but to lock onto something anything and plug your ears and ignore all reason to the contrary.

LOL...et tu?

This "locktown" claim is just soft as mush. I'm not gonna say "oh, what a clever town finder you are" over this mush when you are also glaringly wrong on me. Why should I?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:01 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:12 pm The following players are compatible with Nutella. Everyone else is incompatible. They are in order of compatibility from least to most. The bolded are also independently scummy. The bolded red are independently scummy and also scumread by me.

JPIC
Poison Chan
Radishes
Nook
Herm
Sprityo
Tim

Coming out to bat right as I go to sleep mac? I had better not wake up to 5 votes and 10 pages of being blasted. I’d love to not be set off so early in the morning.

How do we feel about this post?

Am I meant to factor in Sprityo's sleep schedule into my play? Strange thing to say lol.

I feel like you should spend ten pages blasting him...IF you have anything concrete to blast him with. Or at least something a little firmer than your townlock on Oddmerta.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:04 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:58 am You're not even actually trying to evaluate. Your options are so appallingly limited that you've got no choice but to lock onto something anything and plug your ears and ignore all reason to the contrary.

LOL...et tu?

This "locktown" claim is just soft as mush. I'm not gonna say "oh, what a clever town finder you are" over this mush when you are also glaringly wrong on me. Why should I?

Et tu? How does anything I've said about you apply to me? I am being lock town read by everyone in the game. I have any and all choices available to me.

Tim, you are literally the only person that has posted today that would say I am glaringly wrong on you. You are clearly being scum read by town. Many, many, many town. Therefore even if you're town, you're empirically being scummy. Therefore how can I be "glaringly wrong"?

If you're town, just do better. Go after the people that you have a chance of getting over. You're acting like you've got 10 votes on you. You don't.

My POE will have mafia in it. Probably more than one. Who are the other town in it? Who are the mafia? Please, I am inviting you to help me yeet mafia and pocket me lol.

Yeah, I am the only one that knows you are glaringly wrong on me. I understand WHY you are glaringly wrong on me. I don't have any real objection to you feeling the need to flip me to get me out of the POE because my EoD was shit from your perspective. Cool, it's wrong but at least it's a read with substance.

But, yeah, et tu. You are so dialed in on making these reads off just nebulous posts that you won't hear anything else...and you are leading the town. So I'm gonna argue with you. It's a tough deal, but why wouldn't I?

Other than some distancing exchanges with dying Nutella and some safe tunneling on people the town core wouldn't shield, what has Oddmerta actually DONE?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:08 am i don't see why tim is so focused on shooting down other peoples reads when his time would be much better spent making reads of his own. i wouldnt mind tim being aggressive about other peoples gamesolving if i got the impression that he was gamesolving himself - but i'm not. it feels like tim has relagated himself to the role of aggressively complaining

and like, i get it. i've gotten that way before when i'm getting sr by the entire towncore, and it's hard not to focus too much on it. but if tim actually is town then his approach is doing nobody any favors rn

Meh.

The towncore has a POE. Unless something extraordinary happens they will chop their way through it...including me. They are all so diealed in to "I TR you, you TR me...okay cool" that they certainly aren't going to challenge each other. So I will. I think that's beneficial.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:15 am Tim I just checked and out of the following players I am scum reading you've vocalised no firm town read and in fact have suspected them all at points

Herm
Nook
JPIC
Sprityo

Given all these people are in my POE, why are you so antagonstic towards my game solving strategy? You should have had your own reads on these players buoyed by the fact that I have them in the POE. I would expect you to be just happy that I am pushing them, but instead you're just freaking the fuck out that I am pushing you.

Where have I complained about you pushing me? I have said you are wrong about me, but the only reason I know that and you don't is because I can see my role card. Your wanting to chop me is not unreasonable.

I AM challenging you on some of your clears...or one at least so far. After you have chopped through the obvious POE, including me, if we haven't won you will need somewhere to go.

I took a break and came back to interact with someone who hadn't been here yet. I see absolutely no good reason to clear him.

I'll interact with some other people when they come along and let you know what I think of them.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:18 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:15 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:08 am i don't see why tim is so focused on shooting down other peoples reads when his time would be much better spent making reads of his own. i wouldnt mind tim being aggressive about other peoples gamesolving if i got the impression that he was gamesolving himself - but i'm not. it feels like tim has relagated himself to the role of aggressively complaining

and like, i get it. i've gotten that way before when i'm getting sr by the entire towncore, and it's hard not to focus too much on it. but if tim actually is town then his approach is doing nobody any favors rn

Meh.

The towncore has a POE. Unless something extraordinary happens they will chop their way through it...including me. They are all so diealed in to "I TR you, you TR me...okay cool" that they certainly aren't going to challenge each other. So I will. I think that's beneficial.

but what is the benefit of shooting down other peoples reads if you arent providing your own? if your lynch is inevitable then that means that gamesolving today and figuring out who the towncore should be pushing on should be your top priority, right?

I think I've pretty clearly provided my own. Oddmerta I am absolutely sure knows exactly what my read on him is.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:19 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:15 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:08 am i don't see why tim is so focused on shooting down other peoples reads when his time would be much better spent making reads of his own. i wouldnt mind tim being aggressive about other peoples gamesolving if i got the impression that he was gamesolving himself - but i'm not. it feels like tim has relagated himself to the role of aggressively complaining

and like, i get it. i've gotten that way before when i'm getting sr by the entire towncore, and it's hard not to focus too much on it. but if tim actually is town then his approach is doing nobody any favors rn

Meh.

The towncore has a POE. Unless something extraordinary happens they will chop their way through it...including me. They are all so diealed in to "I TR you, you TR me...okay cool" that they certainly aren't going to challenge each other. So I will. I think that's beneficial.

It's not at all beneficial if you are town because it'll mean you'll most likely go first while others in the POE will take a tepid approach and push onto you and get an easy mischop.

You're better off choosing your own favoured wagons in the POE and pushing them and trying to get yourself town cleared through more flips.

The problem is that you would know this already because you've scumread most of the POE and you would be confident that your existing reads on Nook and Herm in particular are sound because they've been qualified by towncore. I would expect you to be just angling for us to chop those two first but you're not, you're just flailing wildly in self pres.

You still have time. Help us get another pelt.

I do still have time...by my count unless you are firing up a vig shot I've got like 43 hours. Is there some reason I have to decide now between your field of choices and push them for two days? As you point out...I already sussed most of them day one. They'll get examined. Maybe they push me and I push back to see what they are made of. Or they push on each other. Whatever.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:27 am No there's no reason you can't, but if I disagree with your pushes I will certainly notify you that I think you're wasting your time barking up the wrong tree.

That's agreeable.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:30 am So my much weaker role has infodumping and roleclaiming bans on it but your straight alignment cop gets to claim?

"Cop" has inherent role claiming limits, since if JPIC is town he is basically doomed to die asap before he clears anyone else.

LOL...anyone voting JPIC today...why would you waste the chop? If he is left alive he keeps mech clearing people...and they ARE mech cleared when he eventually does flip. You know the wolves have to kill him.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:37 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:36 am LOL...anyone voting JPIC today...why would you waste the chop? If he is left alive he keeps mech clearing people...and they ARE mech cleared when he eventually does flip. You know the wolves have to kill him.

this is very similar to the logic that people used to justify not voting nutella

Yeah except they were wrong. There is a HUGE difference between a doc claim and a cop claim. The wolves CANNOT allow a cop to fire off clears. They have to roleblock him EVERY night until they kill him and confirm Mac town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:42 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:41 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:40 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:39 am is making bets allowed

like not for money obviously but like for avatars or something

I'll bet my avatar on this, jpic is scum

I bet you that I am town

Okay so which of Nook/Sprityo is the doctor vs. the mafia KP?

TBH out of those three if there was any kill power I'd have guessed Sprit.

I'm also not necessarily committing to any of them having been the kill power. There are still a lot of people out there with unknown roles and actions to be heard from. The kill power may have been stopped before it even got close enough to you for Hally to see it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:47 am If Sloonei made JPIC a straight cop that can role claim and infodump and then made me the role I am this is a bastard game that makes no sense

I dunno if you can answer this, but would your role, if revealed, make you immediately the number one priority kill for the wolves? I mean, outed alignment cop is a lock kill every time, right?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:50 am it’s probably always correct to just yeet him here. if he’s town that’s just lol forever but eh...

If he's town it eliminates any tinfoil regarding Mac, but it sure seems like we should let the wolves do the work here.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:56 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:53 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:50 am it’s probably always correct to just yeet him here. if he’s town that’s just lol forever but eh...

If he's town it eliminates any tinfoil regarding Mac, but it sure seems like we should let the wolves do the work here.

this sounds suspiciously similar to what you said about nutella

LOL...already asked and answered. There's a huge difference between a cop claim and a doc claim. If town kills an alignment cop for them the wolves are gonna laugh their asses off.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:55 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:53 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:50 am it’s probably always correct to just yeet him here. if he’s town that’s just lol forever but eh...

If he's town it eliminates any tinfoil regarding Mac, but it sure seems like we should let the wolves do the work here.

Tim used defend teammate

But it failed

Sure man, so he lasts one night and gets chopped tomorrow, and I probably get chopped today in his place. Such a brilliant strategy I wish I was a wolf so I could be doing that.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:59 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:58 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:56 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:53 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:50 am it’s probably always correct to just yeet him here. if he’s town that’s just lol forever but eh...

If he's town it eliminates any tinfoil regarding Mac, but it sure seems like we should let the wolves do the work here.

this sounds suspiciously similar to what you said about nutella

LOL...already asked and answered. There's a huge difference between a cop claim and a doc claim. If town kills an alignment cop for them the wolves are gonna laugh their asses off.

i would hope that "we shouldnt stop ourselves from lynching suspicious players just because they claim to have a useful ability" is a lesson we learned yesterday though

Alignment cop isn't "a useful ability" it is absolutely fatal to wolves. Every person an alignment cop examines, no matter what, has to be NKed. The wolves HAVE to either roleblock him or kill him. That either eats up their roleblock or saves someone else from getting killed. That's just basic mechanics.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:04 am Counterpoint, JPIC is using "his role" to confirm lock cleared townies.

Yeah, well I didn't trust you particularly either. My EoD was terrible and I'll take the consequences...but you blew off Nutella's claim effectively and didn't move back. Not the towniest of town towns by ACTION, no matter how townie you TALK.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:09 am i mean like

if we don’t yeet jpic and he’s town scum will just block him tonight and then we’ll probably end up yeeting him tomorrow so we may as well get it over with now since he clearly doesn’t wanna play

So on the assumption the wolves have a roleblocker...if we chop JPIC today then the wolves block the doc and chop Mac or you. If they have to block JPIC then they have to doc dodge.

I mean, if we were down to the last wolf man I'd be all in to turbo him...but it isn't that way. Hell, we all know you have another suspect that everyone is itching to chop.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:15 am There's no way from Nook's vantage point that he could think that JPIC is real unless he is real and Nook knows that he is.

I cannot think of any role for Nanook that would allow him to know that, given that Hally saw Nanook visiting you.

But, cool. Glad you're convinced I guess.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:23 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:22 am there is no way scum!nook sees towncop!jpic getting yeeted and thinks “hey i should defend him.” just no

So do you think Tim is lock town then?

Oh, snap.

Ten bucks says "Tim showed TMI there, grab my torch and pitchfork" is said in the next fifty posts by someone.

Mac got post capped by Sprit, and that isn't necessarily w!Sprit. That's my guess.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:29 am [VOTE: Timsup2nothing ] aubergine

Hey! Here's that other quarter I been waiting for!

[mention]Hally[/mention] now it's my turn...

How'd your night phase go Ted?

Do I get to just say "time to die" when he doesn't answer, or is that just a town core thing?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:36 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:31 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:29 am [VOTE: Timsup2nothing ] aubergine

Hey! Here's that other quarter I been waiting for!

@Hally now it's my turn...

How'd your night phase go Ted?

Didn't get notified of anything.

So....no result on your action...claiming you took no action...?

Did your action involve you going out Ted?

Okay. Guess we just hope your action was a good one and went through.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:47 am I was fully prepared to unquestioningly believe another claim

Sorry. Like I said, at 70-79.9% civilians in the game my night action is just not that exciting. It was worth a try just to see if Ted talked himself into a corner, but his answers were cagey enough to avoid that. And since he obviously thinks I'm a wolf the caginess is NAI, so that was a bust.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:50 am In the interests of all info being on the table, and since I see nothing about not infodumping for my role and am just playing the game as a follower anyway, may as well confirm that I targeted Alison with a protective role last night that I believe I unwittingly stole from nutella. (I can assume roles from dead players.) I was not informed what role it was, just that I could protect someone.

Nice play, because if all the traffic around Mac really didn't include the faction kill you may very well have stopped it.

Still more people who haven't given any clue to their activity though so there might be something else afoot yet.

Okay then.

I talked to the people I wanted to talk to,

I rode through the WTF really went on at Mac's place chaos.

I'm gonna take another break and...I dunno...sleep maybe.

Somebody find all the wolves and just vig them all, okay?

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:56 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm So one reason I bought into Nutella's claim was "it's complicated." Mine is too. In fact I had to wait for Sloonei to tell me what my night action was because it is dependent on the percentage of players that are civilians. Based on the night action I was given 70-79.9% of current players are civilians.

My role is apparently intended as a snowball stopper against the wolves, because the closer to parity they get the more powerful my night actions get.

exactly how tbh? i don't see towns or even scums getting roles that get improved when close to parity.

Sloonei calculates the percentage of players who are civilians. What night action I get depends on what that percentage is. Apparently somewhere between 70% and 79.9% of the players are civilians because I got the night action for that range. If town starts to get in trouble and the percentage falls into the 65% to 69.9% range I get a better night action, and if it falls lower I get an even better night action.

My night action was pretty much a dud, but at least I could say what range we are in and narrow down how many enemies we face a little bit.

Anyway, I had a crappy day one and I'm not gonna argue that I didn't. Good job everyone bagging a wolf without much help from me. But day two is off to a pretty good start and I think if you look closely you will think better of chopping me. Hopefully by the end of the day anyway.

After puzzling through how Mac came up with the Nanook and JPIC clears...I get it.

Which leave Sprityo as having done the dirty on Mac's postcap. I find it very hard to think of any reason that a v!Sprityo would do that, but I suppose it is possible. However, I think it is more likely a wolf thing to do, and that there is a big downside risk in letting potential w!Sprityo live, even one night.

Here's the thing:

For w!Sprityo to approach Mac in the night is a big risk. Mac was going to potentially attract watcher types. Sprityo was potentially going to attract tracker types. That's a lot to take on just to screw around with postcapping. It seems possible that there could be some sort of "set up N1 to have power N2" in play here to justify the risk, and that N2 extra power may go very badly for Mac.

[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:42 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:33 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:32 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:23 am We’re so impatient

lol im a cop

who did you target n1 and why? and what kind of cop?

Mac

Got to check that the towncore wasn’t breached

[VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

No sane townie does this. This is an excuse made up by a wolf who got caught blasting at someone.

Looks like the Watcher theory is correct, kinda coincidental that everyone who visited Mac was in the bottom POE then

Problem being that it appears as though if JPIC had been blasting Mac would be dead.

Inconvenient.

Keep reading.