The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:41 pm Let’s talk about the usage from Jack and others of sker.

sker would imply that just sk would be serial kill.

There is no such thing as a serial kill it is almost oxymoronic. Therefore it is a bad abbreviation and we should cut off the last two letters and leave it at SK.

Thank y’all for coming to my ted talk.
Remember that one time Grinner was a Cereal Killer but it was me all along?

If you ever hand me a rock again I am going to not keep it.

Also my deep rooted assumption is that Jack never reminds me of the time he tricked me as SK if he is the SK.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:24 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:57 am Okay great. Help me find a wolf if you ain’t one.

Who should we lynch?
Timmer - he didn't show up yet after saying he's busy. You find him villager? I find him laying low and avoiding confrontations. In all game he didn't question my vote on him. At least i didn't find it. How is this villagery?
Is it just me or did you sort of start posting more now that there are 3 votes on you?

From an outside perspective, one could assume that teammate told you that your life was on the line and told you to post more.

One could assume that you were busy elsewhere, but even then, we are to read what you have set before us.

Do you generally question all the people who vote for you?

Tony didn't question my vote him. Should I still be suspicious of this fact? He's active but aware...

I don’t know you can be suspicious if you want I guess.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:46 pm @TonyStarkPrime is your vote for Drago due to him having disappeared or do you have other issues with him? I don't know what to make of him, or sprityo either.

I'm going to take a break after that long post and then look at Michelle.

I’ll reread him but I mean chances are I wouldn’t be voting for him if he had showed up recently. I can’t sort him out either but his value to town is very low right now. I don’t want to treat it as a placeholder lynch but it’d be nice if he’d show up.

I’m not in the mood for this insane tomfoolery tonight. If it comes down to a tie between Michelle and Timmer I’ll break and vote on Michelle because mafia powers mean that mafia always wins ties so that cannot be allowed — by the way that mechanic means the rational people in this town right now should figure out which one to go with.

If it comes to it I’ll read some of my yellow reads and try to build a case on Juliets or Dom again or Dizzy or whoever seems scummy

and then that’ll get steamrolled by a day plan with an insane amount of inertia and little distinguishable balancing forces and I’ll end up voting for Michelle

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:31 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:38 pm I’m not in the mood for this insane tomfoolery tonight. If it comes down to a tie between Michelle and Timmer I’ll break and vote on Michelle because mafia powers mean that mafia always wins ties so that cannot be allowed — by the way that mechanic means the rational people in this town right now should figure out which one to go with.

If it comes to it I’ll read some of my yellow reads and try to build a case on Juliets or Dom again or Dizzy or whoever seems scummy
i was host in my site. Town won 2 of 3 rng votes and mafia was lynched. This info you imply here is false if i take the MU midbot choices for tied wagons too.

Well it’s not very much rng if scum can remove 1 vote from any wagon now is it

[mention]Michelle[/mention] check out Baron Wulfenbach’s castle wulfenbach power.

Rah I am Joe Manchin and I am here to not give my opinions.

That said here’s your statement: I think Michelle is town.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:46 pm I assume timmer was going into the day bussing sabie to try to live longer in the future. Idk

I dislike making these big decisions

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

That should keep any shenanigans from stopping that one

In any case, this theory is weakened by the fact that Timmer didn’t in fact go into yesterday with a vote on sabie. If I recall it was only later in the day that he voted there.

Oh there’s only half an hour left

I have no idea what’s going on here which usually means I need to flip my rainbow upside down or alternatively: we’re on the right POE and it’s just stupid

Okay everyone.

Let’s take stock of what we have left here.

9 players. One is Quin. 4 (!!) are scum.
So everyone post the three others you think are most likely town.

Jack
Dom
Michelle

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:08 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:31 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:38 pm I’m not in the mood for this insane tomfoolery tonight. If it comes down to a tie between Michelle and Timmer I’ll break and vote on Michelle because mafia powers mean that mafia always wins ties so that cannot be allowed — by the way that mechanic means the rational people in this town right now should figure out which one to go with.

If it comes to it I’ll read some of my yellow reads and try to build a case on Juliets or Dom again or Dizzy or whoever seems scummy
i was host in my site. Town won 2 of 3 rng votes and mafia was lynched. This info you imply here is false if i take the MU midbot choices for tied wagons too.
Well it’s not very much rng if scum can remove 1 vote from any wagon now is it
I never saw this ability in all the games i played in. Is this how usually things are working here?
Is this another fucking derp? Did Michelle just derp town. I regret replacing in again and I hate this

Yep that’s what I was looking at

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:02 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:57 pm Well, I suck.

I should have either stayed on Michelle or maybe she wasn't even scum. Tony still feels too aware for me. Ever time I vote that way, it's like I'm the only one.

I'm going to be going on vacation this weekend. I haven't decided if I'll commit to phone posting or if I'll bring my computer with me.
Owner, what do you mean when you say Tony "feels too aware" for you? I'm not familiar with that expression.

Also @TonyStarkPrime I see you think I am bad. Can you walk me through why you think that?

I think Jack is town. I think Michelle either legitimately derped town or hasn’t been paying attention. ONE OTHER PERSON IS TOWN. I wasn’t really thinking “oh this would make Juliet’s scum” I was more thinking well POE)

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:02 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:57 pm Well, I suck.

I should have either stayed on Michelle or maybe she wasn't even scum. Tony still feels too aware for me. Ever time I vote that way, it's like I'm the only one.

I'm going to be going on vacation this weekend. I haven't decided if I'll commit to phone posting or if I'll bring my computer with me.
Owner, what do you mean when you say Tony "feels too aware" for you? I'm not familiar with that expression.

Also @TonyStarkPrime I see you think I am bad. Can you walk me through why you think that?

“Feel aware” refers to the idea that scum has more (at this point significantly more) info than the town and that I am, according to Owner, giving off the vibe that I know more than I should. exactly what that is I am unsure because I know very little of what’s going on.

One thing to note: all 6 sparks are alive I think?

Nope Gilgamesh and Gil are apparently the same

Okay

Agatha - stuff
Tarvek - stuff
Zeetha - BG
Axel - one shots
Scum x 3 - looks best to use 2 RBs and a Kill but maybe more
Serial Killer - stuff? and kill
Othar - stuff

I hate that there’s so much “stuff” here.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:34 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:06 pm Okay

Agatha - stuff
Tarvek - stuff
Zeetha - BG
Axel - one shots
Scum x 3 - looks best to use 2 RBs and a Kill but maybe more
Serial Killer - stuff? and kill
Othar - stuff

I hate that there’s so much “stuff” here.
Certain civvies also have a vested interest in not using their powers nightly

yep true for all remaining civs actually (though I’d argue starting tonight Zeetha should be using BG aggressively) - also true though for scum roles

All of you are scum and I don’t like it.

If I were scum at essentially Lylo or maybe better right now what would I do? I’d — well — lie low. Unfortunately most scum suspects have been doing that all game so that’s not gonna give me a good read.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:18 am tony-- should we let bygones be bygones?
I feel like i need to reconsider everything

if you’re scum I think I’ll consider myself adequately tricked
for now
Maybe I’ll reconsider as time goes on

Generally it’s way too late in the game to continue to think about “this player has been active don’t lynch them” but also we have basically 0 leads and the situation is not good and sprit has 7 posts

Jack thoughts on Dom?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:30 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:00 pm
“Feel aware” refers to the idea that scum has more (at this point significantly more) info than the town and that I am, according to Owner, giving off the vibe that I know more than I should. exactly what that is I am unsure because I know very little of what’s going on.

One thing to note: all 6 sparks are alive I think?

No, feeling aware is not always that.

Being aware is portrayed by Mafia, SK or PT; a VT rarely ever displays this kind awareness.

Unfortunately, all 3 of those realities are possible.

I'm coming to a conclusion that you might actually be town here, which is really hard on me. Because of how you reacted to me from the get go was so surprising.

Say this was more of a vanilla game with the standard cop, doctor, vig and bunch of vts. The PT would show or display this awareness while VT would should more innocence or playfulness.

You are talking more so about TMI-ing. A person being aware could result from them knowing too much/tmi-ing, but it isn't always the case.

I have mistakenly pushed on PTs because I spotted this awareness or something that they wished to hide.

Sorry that this is all muffled. But I wouldn't say this is the easiest thing to explain.

I've gone back and forth all day during my work breaks just rereading more and trying to figure out what I am missing.

My Town is

Myself

Dom
Dizzy
Tony

I seriously likely screwed us by not staying on MIchelle.

I'm calling for a lynch on juliets or jack today.

I think Michelle or sprityo is the SK. I'm thinking Michelle might be the SK.

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Dom is my top town. Dizzy and Tony worry me, but this is likely some form of lylo + stuff.

I get lynching sprityo, but I kind of want to hit someone who has been calling the shots. Cause if we don't do it know how will we do it in the future? But yeah, Jack, Julliets and sprityo for mafia.

[VOTE: juliets] aubergine

Okay thanks for some elaboration.
Ughhhh are you Town?

There are very few times where I think playing in person is better which is probably a symptom of me liking scum roles more but when I’m town I just wish I could sit some folks down and ask them what they are.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:55 am Lol we still have a chance if multiple goons get modkilled.

sprityo don’t say anything

What if we all vote for ourselves

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:05 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:59 am What if we all vote for ourselves
I generally don't self vote, even when I had a negative and could have saved myself by doing it. (Then again, that was my first forum. I was lynched day 1 as the mafia godfather.) I have to have a very good reason to do so.

I’m trying to break the game here I’m desperate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am Owner voting Juliets probably means something.

Town
Or
gg we lose

Alternatively if 4 of the 5 players who want to lynch maf today are voting for Jules tonight mafia chooses a counter and builds a case or doesn’t because their strategy is more or less “just sit there”

I mean I think it’s Jules, sprit, and Dizzy but you townread Dizzy.

are we just guessing here

Also Buckets theory suggests Owner is scum

just sayin

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:11 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 am Owner voting Juliets probably means something.
Town
Or
gg we lose
Today is only one day though. We still have to make it through the rest if we somehow even make it through today.

hmm let’s analyze the mindframe of this post

scum knows that they all but win with a town lynch here
alternatively town doesn’t care about days that aren’t today

which of those has this as their first thought

SK?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:14 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:44 am You know who else didn't vote Day 1 aside from Michelle? Jack didn't vote day 1.

Jack's early posts seemed a bit frozen. He wasn't as engaged with the thread. His first few posts were nothing substantial.

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Day 1 Sloonei asked juliets to share their one town read that she was holding back. I felt that was a town motivation to make sure she's not pretending or skimming bye by just saying something that looks townie on the surface. Sig grouped both Sloonei and Drag as mafia together as one of his reads. Those two things I feel are at least enough to give some credit to Dizzy having a good shot at being town here.
No lie I was way behind in both games and playing Fire Emblem. I choose to catch up in the other game first cause it was light.

mindset analysis here:

If I were townJack the excuse is not “cause it was light” but “cause I was scum”

Jack takes a slight point towards the potential serial killers category I guess

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:18 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:12 am Also Buckets theory suggests Owner is scum

just sayin
Okay so what about Juliets then?

least likely I’d say to be the serial killer so probably still scum

If Owner is town that means LC picked up a random wagon of three votes, all from townies, and not a single scum latched on

that happens I guess if the other wagons are also town

It was an easy to fake setup derp and it’s legitimately possible that if Michelle hasn’t been quite tracking everything that could be lost even if Michelle is scum

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:20 am that happens I guess if the other wagons are also town

but they weren’t ! Sabie was tied ! they always could have lynched LC and seemed just as town as they do now for it

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:23 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:12 am Also Buckets theory suggests Owner is scum

just sayin
What's Bucket's theory?

never heard of it or at least not by that name

I'm guessing it could be something I know or do, but idk.

It was this stupid thing I did on day 4 I’ll find it for you

Also if Owner is town that means that scum have had legitimate cases from townies on other townies to jump on almost half a dozen times this game and they haven’t really seemed to jump on any

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:27 am We all agree that Sprityo is mafia and aren’t voting there cause wishful modkill thinking right?

unless sk

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:26 am have we considered that it's possible the sk is inactive instead of being blocked?

omg i've been trying to post this for so long

yeah I think it’s unlikely but if you consider madness too if SK misses a night, skips a night for madness, and gets blocked once it has the same effect

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:26 am Also if Owner is town that means that scum have had legitimate cases from townies on other townies to jump on almost half a dozen times this game and they haven’t really seemed to jump on any
That doesn’t jive with Juliets’s activity level.

(!!)

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:35 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:07 pm Freddy mechanics would be nice in a game like this.
What are Freddy mechanics?

RIP nova and quin, sad to see you both go.
I think he’s referring to a player from HCRealms, Fredwood. I’m guessing he’s known for mechanical analysis. He’s played a few games here.

Now tell me who you’ll belooking at today, juliets.
Oh that’s not it. I do miss Fred though. We played in the hydra championship on mafiauniverse and that was the least fun game I’ve ever played in my life I’ve never seen so many people go berserk.

Jack can you explain this one
Jackofhearts2005

Really not liking the immediate hop onto LC. His first post today was scummy but I’m of the opinion that it’s easy to read every single death reaction post as scummy if so inclined.
Yeah, I'm kinda trying to decide what to make of Owner and Drago.

I tend to think Drago and Creature both get flack for style and Owner looks kinda townie for the weird stream of consciousness posting.

But LC does not merit 3 votes off his entrance and him getting 3 votes is setting off alarm bells.
I have spent 45 minutes looking for things LC has done that warrant 3 votes. He played chess with Tony in the thread and Owner felt like his RIP was scummy. @Dragomir @Creature and @Owner of a Lonely Heart are there other things LC has done that I missed? I'm hearing those alarm bells that Jack is hearing.

ughhjjjjjjghxbsnqocua

Options:

Juliets: defending LC to earn townie badge
Juliets: saying a rational thing

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:32 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:27 am We all agree that Sprityo is mafia and aren’t voting there cause wishful modkill thinking right?
unless sk
So that’s a no.

I feel like Sprityo is playing a mafia game. You post once per day to hold on until victory.

You don’t bother to keep from getting modkilled if you won’t bother sending in targets.

Plus sk is a fun role and I think Sprityo tries harder with it. Same with Michelle.

I agree

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:37 am So like Sprityo has made it this far. He’s probably not gonna really get modkilled.

We should probably lynch him and kick the van down the road on Michelle/Juliets/Dys, right?

Alt: see if he says anything. If he does, lynch him. If not, don’t worry cause he’s modblocked/killed.

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