The Syndicate

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:21 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:26 am @Benson and @Elephant are the only two here I am unfamiliar with I think.

Iirc you are from 112's home site right Benson? How do you rate 112's ability to read you and vice versa? I see you have a scumread on 112. Is that real?

Elephant can you give us the 411 on your situ? Are you familiar with anyone here? Sorry if you've already answered elsewhere.

Linki: juicy
I am not familiar with the expression "give us the 411". I am also trying to not be overtly familiar with anyone, this is a rather public venue after all.

You didn’t change the title. Are you still an elephant?

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am Morning everyone, can't say i'll gladly catch up, can someone tell me if is worth reading all the last 7 pages?
Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff

To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
no mention of 112?

also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations
No who’s 112
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.

This one? This is what it was? Of all the posts you latched on to this? I mean I quoted the point I liked from iaafr and it was about Mac. And then he challenged me to a duel and I liked that too. So not all of the meaningful posts/interactions are about 112.

I’m not generally one for individual post construction, but it’s ... interesting ... (someone kill me) that the first half has no punctuation and the latter half does. That shows different curator styles, or that both parts were written separately, or its a player thing I don’t understand because I’ve never played with spiny creature before. Slight lean scum though for the first possibility: in a normal world town would never make such a mentality shift from one half to another, but there are conceivable reasons. The second and third possibilities are NAI.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:21 am Wait, I can delete my own posts?
You can do that, but you must not.

shit the mods left edit and delete on time to screenshot everything

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:33 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:21 am Wait, I can delete my own posts?
You can do that, but you must not.
What prevents me from doing that?

Probably game rules

Yeah rule three in the additional rules section.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:17 am Question for all of you, do you guys believe this game would have some fake claims? I personally think yes. It's a big factor in why I suspect 112 as a matter of fact.

I mean I only my role and the sample role but from those super no

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:31 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:30 amWhat is FoS?
Finger of Suspicion.

We can do so much better than that

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:44 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:00 am
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:40 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:39 amI like elephant.

No, not that kind of elephant. :[
maybe you'd prefer this?

this is not an elephant

Though the libertarian porcupine is by far the best animal mascot of any political party ever

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:49 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am Morning everyone, can't say i'll gladly catch up, can someone tell me if is worth reading all the last 7 pages?
Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff

To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
no mention of 112?

also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations
No who’s 112
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.
Good callout from Spiny, TSP has been weird overall and I haven't been sure wether it was playstyle - but this feels like a smoking gun to me. TSP scum.

Okay first off I have no playstyle and second off literally I don’t know 112 I did not get a read on them that’s it this is the stupidest argument I have ever heard in... well a long time

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am Morning everyone, can't say i'll gladly catch up, can someone tell me if is worth reading all the last 7 pages?
Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff

To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
no mention of 112?

also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations
No who’s 112
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.
This one? This is what it was? Of all the posts you latched on to this? I mean I quoted the point I liked from iaafr and it was about Mac. And then he challenged me to a duel and I liked that too. So not all of the meaningful posts/interactions are about 112.

I’m not generally one for individual post construction, but it’s ... interesting ... (someone kill me) that the first half has no punctuation and the latter half does. That shows different curator styles, or that both parts were written separately, or its a player thing I don’t understand because I’ve never played with spiny creature before. Slight lean scum though for the first possibility: in a normal world town would never make such a mentality shift from one half to another, but there are conceivable reasons. The second and third possibilities are NAI.
this is such a reach of a read that it makes me super certain that tsp is SOMETHING

- I think not third party is what it says, mafia make this kind of reach to lynch people, town make it to try and find mafia, third parties have absolutely no reason to stick their necks out like this

well someone reacted

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:09 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am

Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff

To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite
no mention of 112?

also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations
No who’s 112
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.
This one? This is what it was? Of all the posts you latched on to this? I mean I quoted the point I liked from iaafr and it was about Mac. And then he challenged me to a duel and I liked that too. So not all of the meaningful posts/interactions are about 112.

I’m not generally one for individual post construction, but it’s ... interesting ... (someone kill me) that the first half has no punctuation and the latter half does. That shows different curator styles, or that both parts were written separately, or its a player thing I don’t understand because I’ve never played with spiny creature before. Slight lean scum though for the first possibility: in a normal world town would never make such a mentality shift from one half to another, but there are conceivable reasons. The second and third possibilities are NAI.
this is such a reach of a read that it makes me super certain that tsp is SOMETHING

- I think not third party is what it says, mafia make this kind of reach to lynch people, town make it to try and find mafia, third parties have absolutely no reason to stick their necks out like this
well someone reacted

I’ve seen a lot of people do grammar punctuation reads very successfully. I personally don’t think it’s a great strat but if Spiny ends up being scum I will definitely do it for the rest of my existence

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:10 pm Game is broken if that’s the case, any decent designer gives scum fake claims.

Ping me if you want me to say something after this cause I’m not reading more for awhile.

If you ping me a bunch of times for no reason (mac) I will vote you (mac) with no regrets (mac).

making stuff up is part of mafia

It’s like playing with Glorf if Glorf were an elephant

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 am
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:43 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:34 am iaafr

creature
dragomir
michelle
sprityo
benson

evenstar
hyena

null line

112
macdougall
jackofhearts
nutella
why the fuck are both Creature and Dragomir so high here
Also not getting great vibes from benson
Nutella and Jack ought to be higher, too
overall, garbage readslist, making me feel worse about Iaafr
This is bad as hell. How can you use the fact that you disagree with the read list against iaafr? Ppl have different perspectives and won't always share your own. I despise the shade that you're throwing at iaafr here.
I super question how badly this list is off. Feels like they're not playing the same game as me. That means they're probably not the same alignment as me. QED.

Fair I guess but it’s also see Drago’s point. Iaafr threw out a rainbow with maybe half a dozen controversial reads. I think it’s town because of this shift on Mac and 112, plinko theory suggests that scum doesn’t make such significant shifts like that without a clearer game plan

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:40 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome
Ok @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.

There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.
Thanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.
So Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.

For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.

But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?
Here's what JJJ said in the OP:

"Characters are randomized and have no connection to role abilities. You can even role play if you like."

So I read that as you can't tell from the character what the role abilities are.
I'm not talking about role abilities, I'm talking about alignments.

Here’s how I see it

A game was designed with blank power roles associated with alignment
Then 29 characters were completely randomly matched to roles

@Drago Yes but my character is also like I’m not sure if it would be good or bad anyways it isn’t like that

@Elephant A player who, from what I’ve gathered, doesn’t lie and kinda talks like you and has a distinct posting character. He’s not an elephant cause he’s an elf.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:29 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:59 pm @Drago Yes but my character is also like I’m not sure if it would be good or bad anyways it isn’t like that

@Elephant A player who, from what I’ve gathered, doesn’t lie and kinda talks like you and has a distinct posting character. He’s not an elephant cause he’s an elf.
Elephants can be elves. I can lie, but rarely do so.

image.jpeg

this is adorable

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:54 pm @iaafr, I just re-read your ISO and one thing that stood out to me is your total turnaround on 112, first she was absolutely town and then she went all the way to scum. Could you talk about that turnaround? What happened? I didn't see it explained in your ISO but maybe I missed it.

And then you were town tunneling nutella but she ended up as scum on your list. Could you talk about what happened there?

I feel like I'm reading your list upside down except your name appears at the top and I assume you don't suspect yourself.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:07 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:04 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:44 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:43 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:28 pm

Why aren't you suspecting me for claiming Light Yagami then...?
My suspicion on 112 is not based on him character claiming.
What is it based on then?
Read the last page and you'll find out.
I did. Why'd your read evaporate as soon as you got confirmation that flavor isn't alignment-indicative?
Then it'd mean no safe claims for scum, meaning 112 isn't roleplaying a safe claim.
Yeah no I don't buy this is a real thought. Scum have to be able to fake the form of a town role PM, or else D1 mass-flavour-claim breaks the game.

No I get I it I think. Drago thought that 112 had a safe claim and was trying to use that to leverage town cred in a way where 112 wouldn’t use the claim to leverage cred if they were actually town. That falls apart if all character claims are random.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:10 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:17 am Question for all of you, do you guys believe this game would have some fake claims? I personally think yes. It's a big factor in why I suspect 112 as a matter of fact.
Yeah. We had safeclaims in Mass Effect, the last join venture Jay hosted, which also allowed flavor claiming.

But in this game characters are random, in ME like me being shep meant that I was good and you being some bad alien thing meant you were bad

112 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:15 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:10 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:17 am Question for all of you, do you guys believe this game would have some fake claims? I personally think yes. It's a big factor in why I suspect 112 as a matter of fact.
Yeah. We had safeclaims in Mass Effect, the last join venture Jay hosted, which also allowed flavor claiming.
But in this game characters are random, in ME like me being shep meant that I was good and you being some bad alien thing meant you were bad
From what I've read of you: you seem too reasonable to be town. What do you think?

aww how nice

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:21 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:17 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:12 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:07 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:04 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:00 pm

I did. Why'd your read evaporate as soon as you got confirmation that flavor isn't alignment-indicative?
Then it'd mean no safe claims for scum, meaning 112 isn't roleplaying a safe claim.
Yeah no I don't buy this is a real thought. Scum have to be able to fake the form of a town role PM, or else D1 mass-flavour-claim breaks the game.
No I get I it I think. Drago thought that 112 had a safe claim and was trying to use that to leverage town cred in a way where 112 wouldn’t use the claim to leverage cred if they were actually town. That falls apart if all character claims are random.
Why's Drago assuming 112 knew this before him?
Knew what?
that roles were completely NAI

I mean maybe Drago is assuming 112 read the rules

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:18 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:10 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:17 am Question for all of you, do you guys believe this game would have some fake claims? I personally think yes. It's a big factor in why I suspect 112 as a matter of fact.
Yeah. We had safeclaims in Mass Effect, the last join venture Jay hosted, which also allowed flavor claiming.
And it was like this where characters were assigned randomly?
The scumteams each followed a theme but the overall role assignment was random.

Iirc, roles were themey, not randomized.

I read the setup as like “cop” doesn’t necessarily apply to a town character who is good at catching baddies. A random town character is the cop.

Not like mashes where half the scumteam is good guys and half is bad guys cause the flavor is randomized.

I guess that’s a valid reasoning but I don’t think that’s right or in line with what we’ve been told

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:12 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:07 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:04 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:44 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:40 pm

What is it based on then?
Read the last page and you'll find out.
I did. Why'd your read evaporate as soon as you got confirmation that flavor isn't alignment-indicative?
Then it'd mean no safe claims for scum, meaning 112 isn't roleplaying a safe claim.
Yeah no I don't buy this is a real thought. Scum have to be able to fake the form of a town role PM, or else D1 mass-flavour-claim breaks the game.
No I get I it I think. Drago thought that 112 had a safe claim and was trying to use that to leverage town cred in a way where 112 wouldn’t use the claim to leverage cred if they were actually town. That falls apart if all character claims are random.
I hate the phrasing of this. All that shade at my case on 112.

Disregard the phrasing: Do I understand your case correctly?
Regard the phrasing: I think it’s a good case with your premises so what do you have a problem with?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:34 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:12 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:07 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:04 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:00 pm

I did. Why'd your read evaporate as soon as you got confirmation that flavor isn't alignment-indicative?
Then it'd mean no safe claims for scum, meaning 112 isn't roleplaying a safe claim.
Yeah no I don't buy this is a real thought. Scum have to be able to fake the form of a town role PM, or else D1 mass-flavour-claim breaks the game.
No I get I it I think. Drago thought that 112 had a safe claim and was trying to use that to leverage town cred in a way where 112 wouldn’t use the claim to leverage cred if they were actually town. That falls apart if all character claims are random.
I hate the phrasing of this. All that shade at my case on 112.
Disregard the phrasing: Do I understand your case correctly?
Regard the phrasing: I think it’s a good case with your premises so what do you have a problem with?
Yes.
Because you're pretty much saying that I was being manipulative and trying to diminish something that could happen in the future, which isn't the case.

No I think it’s fine reasoning and fwiw you might be right I just don’t think it’s a thing that could happen given my understanding of the nature of this game.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:59 pm @Drago Yes but my character is also like I’m not sure if it would be good or bad anyways it isn’t like that
My character is Mind Flayer, what is yours?

The Demogorgon

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:55 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:57 pm @TonyStarkPrime do you have a question?
How many fishes can you fit in your car?
Thank you for the question Tony. Usually I carry no more than two fishes in my car at once.

that’s a small car

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:10 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:55 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:57 pm @TonyStarkPrime do you have a question?
How many fishes can you fit in your car?
Thank you for the question Tony. Usually I carry no more than two fishes in my car at once.
that’s a small car

I don’t remember what I was up to when I quoted your post the first time might’ve been an accident

[VOTE: Juliets] aubergine
No new reason, just coasting on my one scum read from the players I’m almost familiar with

Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:39 pm Tony Stark's vote + qualification is...concerning.

thank you for your concern

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.
This one? This is what it was? Of all the posts you latched on to this? I mean I quoted the point I liked from iaafr and it was about Mac. And then he challenged me to a duel and I liked that too. So not all of the meaningful posts/interactions are about 112.

I’m not generally one for individual post construction, but it’s ... interesting ... (someone kill me) that the first half has no punctuation and the latter half does. That shows different curator styles, or that both parts were written separately, or its a player thing I don’t understand because I’ve never played with spiny creature before. Slight lean scum though for the first possibility: in a normal world town would never make such a mentality shift from one half to another, but there are conceivable reasons. The second and third possibilities are NAI.
gone thru mentions. I switch between caps / no caps and punctuation / no punctuation a lot, it is indeed NAI for me. ig it is the difference between shitposting register and longer-sentences register, but it doesn't mean I thought about the punctuated sentences more; I don't edit any of my posts as any alignment unless they're very long and making a complicated case.

and as for the first paragraph: yeah it was weird. I stand by that. missing all of the 112/iaafr pocket-not-pocket conversation means you skimmed the thread, so even if it's true you missed forming an impression on iaafr it was weird to me to then have 10 different reads if you hadn't read a great deal.

Yeah not making any sort of claims on that deep of post analysis on a player I’ve never played with. Just pointing it out.

I didn’t skim. I read the posts. I registered what was being said. I had no opinion.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:14 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.
This one? This is what it was? Of all the posts you latched on to this? I mean I quoted the point I liked from iaafr and it was about Mac. And then he challenged me to a duel and I liked that too. So not all of the meaningful posts/interactions are about 112.

I’m not generally one for individual post construction, but it’s ... interesting ... (someone kill me) that the first half has no punctuation and the latter half does. That shows different curator styles, or that both parts were written separately, or its a player thing I don’t understand because I’ve never played with spiny creature before. Slight lean scum though for the first possibility: in a normal world town would never make such a mentality shift from one half to another, but there are conceivable reasons. The second and third possibilities are NAI.
gone thru mentions. I switch between caps / no caps and punctuation / no punctuation a lot, it is indeed NAI for me. ig it is the difference between shitposting register and longer-sentences register, but it doesn't mean I thought about the punctuated sentences more; I don't edit any of my posts as any alignment unless they're very long and making a complicated case.

and as for the first paragraph: yeah it was weird. I stand by that. missing all of the 112/iaafr pocket-not-pocket conversation means you skimmed the thread, so even if it's true you missed forming an impression on iaafr it was weird to me to then have 10 different reads if you hadn't read a great deal.
Yeah not making any sort of claims on that deep of post analysis on a player I’ve never played with. Just pointing it out.

I didn’t skim. I read the posts. I registered what was being said. I had no opinion.
Was asking "which one's 112" (or whatever the wording was) rhetorical / snarking, then, not an actual "who dat" question?

Cause my read on that specific post was based on assuming it was the latter.

Rhetorical to the effect of “why do you expect me to care about 112”

Alright I love it when things I don’t care about explode day 1.
Someone or preferably multiple someones give me a 50 or less words summary of why Hyena is (or isn’t) scum and everything else of import in this situation

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
Right here. :P

(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."
[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

This spiny case is bullshit and I don't see what you're doing otherwise. Also you dropped off the Epi vote super fast as soon as it started to gain traction.

That ain't a hyena, it's a wolf.
No u
Sorry mate, you've been pinned. :v

And yeah, if you are scum then Epi is a major source to look at tomorrow. Eva raises a good point on wagon momentum.

Super don’t like this on principle for half a dozen reasons but I think the data would show that town tries to set up lynch chains like this more than scum does. I cannot tell you how many times I build a case off something like this and it’s complete garbage because WIFOM scum knows better than to put themselves in that trap. However when combined with the “Eva raises a good point” thing I’m still inclined to call it a very scummy post.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:08 pm Wait, why is Tony defending me right now? o:

news to me

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
Right here. :P

(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."
[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

This spiny case is bullshit and I don't see what you're doing otherwise. Also you dropped off the Epi vote super fast as soon as it started to gain traction.

That ain't a hyena, it's a wolf.
No u
Sorry mate, you've been pinned. :v

And yeah, if you are scum then Epi is a major source to look at tomorrow. Eva raises a good point on wagon momentum.
Super don’t like this on principle for half a dozen reasons but I think the data would show that town tries to set up lynch chains like this more than scum does. I cannot tell you how many times I build a case off something like this and it’s complete garbage because WIFOM scum knows better than to put themselves in that trap. However when combined with the “Eva raises a good point” thing I’m still inclined to call it a very scummy post.
Okay, jokes aside for one moment. :v is generally meant to be a joking manner or tone, so when I was saying Hyena is pinned it was meant to be a joke.

However, I already independently scum read Hyena at this point considering my vote on him. So while while it is a joke, there is undertones of my belief scattered through it.

And on the lynch train idea? Hell no, I don't ever finalize lynches a day beforehand. Actually auoting out lynches is how town loses games.

That was me pointing out a conditional associative based on something that another player pointed out, that once I saw, I agreed with.

1) jokes aside is bad Town don’t put aside jokes and act calm
2) nothing wrong with first sentence or suspicion on Hyena though I guess what I was calling into question was not made clear
3) yes duh on lynch train but the suggestion was there. Town has no reason to make a suggestion they don’t believe (well I mean they do but not in this case), scum wants to at least check the grounds for priming an Epi lynch is my thinking.
4) sure I guess it’s fine I just don’t like the phrasing but for players I’m unfamiliar with again I’m not going to die on a phrasing case

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:21 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:05 pm 1. I didn't defend Jack for no apparent reason. I have observed jack FPS read Creature town before and initially thought that it might be a scumtell so I went to check whether it was from a scum game but found it was an indy game.
2. I fully expected this game to be chill. Several people said they were gonna phone it in and have fun. I didn't anticipate getting attacked for being relaxed and was not mentally prepared for it. I prepared myself for the champs games. Those are not my usual mode at all. I rarely if ever top post in games on here. Also I have been phone posting and it's been the weekend and I've been trying to enjoy my beers, bbq and pool time while playing. I was frustrated because people were suspecting me for irrational reason on day 0 when I didn't want to have to take this game seriously. I can't help myself sometimes though.
3. I ... don't think this is actually true?
4. How does this make me scum? You are making such basic reads. I can vote for whoever I want, whenever I want. All that matters is where my vote ends up. This is why i think you are bad. You are not considering your opinions, you are just making them.
Hmmmmm.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

you rang

Okay I’m actually going to sleep and I’m probably going to be pretty busy tomorrow so I’ll try to keep up and make snarky comments when applicable but I can’t promise to be running the show or anything

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:06 am @TonyStarkPrime I am voting for you. Do you know why?

No clue

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:34 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:15 pm [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine
No new reason, just coasting on my one scum read from the players I’m almost familiar with
CMV: this is the worst vote in the game so far.

I do even think there was the slightest of follow-up

No currently no follow up I don’t think

Well I just woke up and read like 7 pages which isn’t usually how this goes

Mac if it’s cause I’m blendy and being lazy that’s correct but I’d point out that for one reason or another I haven’t yet discovered the secret to coasting as scum and also there are 30 people in this game and I subbed in I didn’t quite prep for this mental energy

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:12 am Screw this, not reading pages 34-36

Nothing happens

[VOTE: pawn] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
Right here. :P

(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."
[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

This spiny case is bullshit and I don't see what you're doing otherwise. Also you dropped off the Epi vote super fast as soon as it started to gain traction.

That ain't a hyena, it's a wolf.
No u
Sorry mate, you've been pinned. :v

And yeah, if you are scum then Epi is a major source to look at tomorrow. Eva raises a good point on wagon momentum.
Super don’t like this on principle for half a dozen reasons but I think the data would show that town tries to set up lynch chains like this more than scum does. I cannot tell you how many times I build a case off something like this and it’s complete garbage because WIFOM scum knows better than to put themselves in that trap. However when combined with the “Eva raises a good point” thing I’m still inclined to call it a very scummy post.
I actually like this post from Tony. Or I did until the last sentence.

Cause I don’t like when someone makes a good point about someone being townie and then immediately flips on it.

I mean take it as a point about pawn being townie but I think the basic structure was

Conventional play says scum
Maybe conventional play is wrong
I still think it’s scum

Okay people shouldn’t be voting for the elephant anymore.

I think the animals and iaafr are most likely town out of those with some votes,
I tend to always scumread Epi and then call myself good at it when I’m right,
Mac seems town but there’s nothing distinguishing there which isn’t particularly concerning.
And I’m voting for Pawn so I think that’s a good option.
No opinion on sprit, nova, or Eva.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:17 am I appreciate @MacDougall giving Epi and Juliets all the sarcasm a “Are you town?” “Yes, I am” exchange merits.

In person this is such a winning strategy you can just look at someone for three seconds and know

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:23 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:22 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:17 am I appreciate @MacDougall giving Epi and Juliets all the sarcasm a “Are you town?” “Yes, I am” exchange merits.
In person this is such a winning strategy you can just look at someone for three seconds and know
I hate to break it to you, Tony.

Jack look in to my eyes...
Are you town?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:24 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:22 pm Wait a sec.

Is Epi your scum partner, Eva? Is that what's happening now? o:
Let's lynch him and find out!

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Wtf is this
Spew?

Hey this looks familiar

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