The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:52 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:51 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:31 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:28 pm You’re bad

juliets is my strongest civilian read in the game. How about a one-word summary of your suspicion that isn't itself "bad"?

Juliets is playing too nice. Giving information, asking questions. Playing good cop too much. Taking lines that look for a taker instead of carry themselves.

Do you know juliets to play in a way other than nice?

I think I’ve played with Juliets once past day 1. She played like this. I thought it was scummy. She was scum. I am making no meta judgment either way from that.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:56 pm Still think Tony is bad tbh. One of you freaks that’s always asking for more ISOs to do, go check him out

Any beefs beyond the off-wagon vote?

His exchange with you. I had the same thought about his reads list, wondering where those names came from.

I definitely called out the town ones as they went by and think I had said something about each of the scum ones

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:20 am @TonyStarkPrime

- Tony, I've read this 5 times and still don't understand what your saying. I know "late" should be "early" but I still am not getting it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:35 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:15 pm I also don't get Jack's so sure read on you. Is that normal for Jack, anyone? I seem to remember a more tempered town!Jack.

In my single game (Inception, a few months ago) Jack looked like he was trying to play like he is now, but without being too noticeable. He was scum in that game, so in retrospect I feel like he was trying to imitate his town game as he perceives it.

This makes me hesitate to vote Jack right now, as much as his overall play has been a bit questionable.

I find that town Jack is more unsure in late game in confident end game and scum Jack is the other way around.

Jack as town makes plays early (d2-4) and seems less certain as the game goes on. Jack as scum can float those days while still contributing and then enacts his plan in the late game.

- Tony you did something you called a Power Analysis. I am not familiar with that as a solving tool. It seemed like you were just saying what you would do if you were that role which would just be busywork, something a scum would do. What was the purpose of the Power Analysis?

I wanted to look over the powers. And doing that is a good excuse to get thinking about it. There are some cool interactions to note. And sometimes I get responses that spark good discussion.

- I spoilered this next post because it's so long

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:24 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:24 am Catching up: throwing in early reads to have them down

Town: SVS, Sig, Michelle, I think Epi
Wont lynch: Jack, Ted, the other half of Epi

Do these reads still stand @TonyStarkPrime and do you have any mafia reads.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:40 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:35 pm I remember squinting my eyes at Tony earlier. Let's look into that.

sorry tony

keep tryin you’ll lynch me one of these days

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:41 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:35 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:19 pm
In my single game (Inception, a few months ago) Jack looked like he was trying to play like he is now, but without being too noticeable. He was scum in that game, so in retrospect I feel like he was trying to imitate his town game as he perceives it.

This makes me hesitate to vote Jack right now, as much as his overall play has been a bit questionable.

I find that town Jack is more unsure in late game in confident end game and scum Jack is the other way around.

Hahahaha you are bad again. Fuck I own your soul.

I wish

These two posts feel icky very much like he's deflecting.

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:57 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:49 am

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:27 pm

The part where you keep downplaying Jack being god tier at reading you. I have demonstrable evidence that you know and highly regard his ability to read you. The lines of logic you are using are fallacious as opposed to what they would naturally be if he was actually wrong.

But what would be they be if he was actually wrong?

Surprised, or she'd have a fierce scum read of him.

I tend to disagree. We’ve seen this a few times with Rej and Drago (I don’t think in any of the cases where one had a strong day 1 read they were v/v, but I’ll have to check) and it’s been discussed there and my general idea is that the usual reaction is bewilderment, general anger, and resignation — in either case.
For me I’m thinking about what I would do if Sloonei came after me with a case in a few days. it’s a technique Sloonei can pull as scum, but I have to assume that Sloonei as town can misread me too or else what am I saying about my own ability as a scum player?

Did Sloonei lynch me in the game we played together as town? I have no recollection of that game at all.

I like this post 1+ Civ point.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:45 am Let's do some power analysis

So his analysis was good, but I personally don't like random PA like this. Now after Nights I can see it since you want to look over what's happened. But, this was an odd time to do it and is basically just a more in-depth version of what G-man did. As in being around, looking active, but not really contributing anything real.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:00 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:52 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:42 am Meh
Vote Dizzy

Wait, what? TSP please share what you are seeing here.

I gotta feeling

He never responded to this and I'd like an answer.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:20 pm Okay gang, so what if we take a step back?

We have two major wagons going, with most of the players on them which isn't really something I personally like this early in the game.

Who outside of Jack, Nutella, and Radish looks the worst/could be a baddie?

I'm obviously gonna say we should go with Nanook.

But, I'm open to other ideas.

I don’t think any of those are good lynches probably reverse alpha best to worst

So you didn't like these three lynches and supported Dizzy, any reason why?

TSP: He's still kind off a mystery to me. I'd like to see more reads from him and why he voted/suspected Dizzy, until then he's staying null I guess.

Any scum reads? No. Not going to pretend otherwise. I think the list of people I wouldn’t lynch is pretty large though. I can expand it if you’d like but I think I’ll hold off til the day.

I would have been fine with any of the three lynches (least pleased with Nutella as I said) but I wasn’t content to let that be that. So I voted for Dizzy.

I liked your response in the first paragraph, open and honest. I'm not sure I get your second paragraph. You had just said "I don’t think any of those are good lynches probably reverse alpha best to worst" about Jack, nutella and Radish but now you say you would have been fine with them. And I still don't see the reason you voted Dizzy.

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:04 am Vote: Jay because I feel like it

But why?

- You gave reasons for suspecting me and I gave you a response to those reasons. I'd like you to respond back to me if you would. I am thinking you haven't been online since then.


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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:56 pm Still think Tony is bad tbh. One of you freaks that’s always asking for more ISOs to do, go check him out

Any beefs beyond the off-wagon vote?

His exchange with you. I had the same thought about his reads list, wondering where those names came from.

I definitely called out the town ones as they went by and think I had said something about each of the scum ones

Tony, you said their names but I didn't see any reasoning except for about me. Could you say a little more about your reads?

Overall Tony I'm not inspired (if I can borrow Sloonei's word) by your posts. You have not provided much content and I don't know what you are thinking. Maybe people who play with you more often can provide some insight because as you said, we have not played together a lot in my memory. I look forward to your response.

First two comments in red.
I think you messed up the spoilers so I’m not quite clear where to go from there. It is true that I have not provided much content. I’m sorry for this. The game is crowded. I don’t feel like I have much to say. A lot of my reads in this game are from overall feel rather than anything specific and I’m not going to pretend otherwise. I can provide a sentence or two on each one but I don’t have much else. Why did I suspect dizzy? Medium post count, no interactions worth mentioning. Saved it with a good reads list that showed straight thinking. Why do I suspect Jay? Cause where’s Jay?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:58 pm After ten pages, I have to wonder if ted needs a library card.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:27 am I’m gonna go at epi when I’m on pc, wanted you to know I acknowledged your vote there

Libraries have computers you can use for free these days.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:44 am Haven’t forgotten about Epi, came back from a 4 hour exhausting volleyball training session

And I haven't forgotten about you. [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

Computers bad

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:39 pm Every time someone calls me "Dys" a little piece of my soul dies. =(

I like it cause it’s shorter but it is also less fun

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:08 pm Tony moved from juliets to TH. Lame. @TonyStarkPrime why?

No one was voting for Juliets.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:16 pm @TonyStarkPrime I only see TH included in your "baddie" section of your reads list and a qualifier that he is a "shrug read". Is that still accurate?

Yes still a shrug read. I don’t have a huge scum read against anyone else in lynch contention.
I think this game is too big to try to sway things

I’ll vote Radishes over Mac. I think a Mac lynch is wildly random, he’s at least hunting. In multiball or whatever that might be less effective, but I think his insight has been good.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:37 pm Oh hey day ends in 2 minutes

crazy

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:38 pm [VOTE: MR] aubergine

Hey are you scum

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:09 pm I think Sabie is on the Radish team. The way she was addressing Radish was sparse and awkward. She didn't respond to Radish when Radish picked her vote on Nut out as the worst vote. But every time I say something anti-Sabie she's there to comment on it.

Turnip also looks bad from this. The way he ended up on Nut D1 even though he supposedly suspected Radish. And also D2 built counter wagons to him. Not a great look. Though I've been reading Turnip more town otherwise. Idk.

Right

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:42 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:11 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:09 pm Why is Captain Cold not on the poll?

Because he's been off the show too long. And because he'd just auto-win.

Seriously, Miller and Purcell perfectly encapture the rivalry and friendship of the characters. I stopped watching awhile ago but Flash is basically the perfect level of camp and taking itself seriously that I want from a live action DC show. It's not as good as the DCAU but it's still a lot of fun.

I have seen no dc tv shows

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:32 pmI don't think Turnip can be with Radish, despite the fact they are both root vegetables.

Why?

When did he vote? After the train was already in the lead? Cause in that case it’s super sketch. I have reasons for my suspicions.

So your hypothesis is that TH is MR's teammate and instead of casting a vote for me at the end thus saving his teammate he instead casted a vote on MR thus confirming his teammate's death?

I mean, stranger things and all but he doesn't need to do that. Even if TH had a town read on me, the smarter play there would have been to just note vote at all and hope the cards fell his way.

If TH is scum, he's your teammate.

These lines start to fall apart.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:49 pm not watching BTAS is a borderline crime tbh

Especially for Tony, who I met on a site devoted to a comic book character minis game.

I have my BTAS clix, that doesn’t mean I watched BTAS

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:49 pm Mac never stated a reason for voting for Radishes....

Day 2?

Epi called out the other post in the series but this is the ridiculous one.

Sloonei what do you think about Mac’s view of Jack//Radishes?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:25 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:18 am I would have to be super, super wrong about Jack for him to be bad.

Ditto. I’m open to the possibility, and I hope to ISO him myself soon, but I can’t bring myself to shake off my town read.

this gives me tinglies

I have no clue if Jack is town or not. My gut reaction would be town, but I think the only evidence to that end is the WIFOM “oh Jack wouldn’t go after Nutella if he were scum” to which I’ll point out that 1) he might and 2) he backed off.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:33 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:25 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:18 am I would have to be super, super wrong about Jack for him to be bad.

Ditto. I’m open to the possibility, and I hope to ISO him myself soon, but I can’t bring myself to shake off my town read.

this gives me tinglies

tell me about your tinglies, tony

I was on board to agree with you and Dom about it — I think Mac was going off little. But the weird mind meld in specifically this post seems to be hedging in a way that I don’t like.

I’m going to float the idea that this game is chaotic because there are two scum teams trying to outdo each other. Anyone want to ask me why this is important?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:42 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 am I’m going to float the idea that this game is chaotic because there are two scum teams trying to outdo each other. Anyone want to ask me why this is important?

Why is this important?

Because it means that — especially for high capacity players, of which everyone in this game is one, there is no incentive to slack off as there can be in a normal mafia game. Thus, our scum will be found not in those who are unusually quiet but rather those who are unusually loud.

The problem is anyone in at least the top six posters could easily be the top poster in any game here.

Juliets and Nutella could too, and I don’t remember who’s after that. Maybe Nanook is too active, but I’m not sure how much of that came Day 1, where we can safely discount that.

The first idea was to look for people who are hunting but avoiding certain cases altogether. That’s good advice in any mafia game, but I think it takes higher prevalence here. But in 25 player mafia, not all cases can be adequately touched on.

A question: if we all know what a derp looks like, and we all could reasonably emulate it, why don’t you see it more often? I can’t remember the last time scum town cleated themself with something like that.
The only possible example in this game is Sig going after Radish for saying baddie. Sig might have been right. Ironically, because he might have been right, I need to re-examine Sig.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:52 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:45 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:42 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 am I’m going to float the idea that this game is chaotic because there are two scum teams trying to outdo each other. Anyone want to ask me why this is important?

Why is this important?

Because it means that — especially for high capacity players, of which everyone in this game is one, there is no incentive to slack off as there can be in a normal mafia game. Thus, our scum will be found not in those who are unusually quiet but rather those who are unusually loud.

I’m not sure I follow.

Basically, the “they look like they’re hunting” argument falls apart.

I think pursuing a “who is teammates with Radish” line is just bad strategically. It’s what the other team wants to happen. Maybe it’s like

Town: 50
Master: 25
Anti-Monitor-25

on average and we change it to

Town: 60
Master: 40

by focusing on one faction, but I think friendly fire works to our advantage.

I’m more interested in who is scum without Radish.

That said if you think someone is scum with Radish you should point that out tonight so mafia will see it and kill them.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:55 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:21 am This game has been so hard for me to follow It takes me at least a half hour to catch up on reading everything after I leave and come back. I don't know why me voting for nutella who did not flip town and mac who is not confirmed town must mean I'm bad. I voted for mac because I thought his gameplay matched his other mafia gameplay before. We still don't know that mac isn't bad. I can see why people think I'm not playing well this game and that's a fair assessment because I'm having a hard time keeping up and making reads there is so much going on. So yeah I am trying my best and I always think it's better to be honest and to at least try to put my vote somewhere that I think makes sense than to make up fake reads or not vote at all. People always think I'm scummy because my posts are weird and my gameplay style doesn't make sense to them.

It’s more that your vote pattern fits a radish teammate

You also voted mac over radishes so what does that say about you? I have said before I'm not familiar with radishes and had nothing to compare to. I know they are newer here and don't know a lot of people and I didnt know if they came off as scummy because of that. When I played in all my circuits this happened to therealet and everyone gave them a super hard time and they ended up being civ. I didn't have any real read on radishes so I didnt vote there. When I made my post about mac and TH the reason I included both of them is because they were the wagons with the most votes so I put my thoughts on both. Then I saw slooneis post town reading TH which led me more in the direction of voting mac over TH at the time. Then I wasn't around because I was busy IRL. That's about it. I always think it's so funny when people look way too far into what I'm doing when there isn't anything behind it.

Sabie, can you give me two or three reads? In any direction.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:18 pm Li kinda want to mansplain to Sabie how she’s misusing the term “mansplainig.”

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:41 pm I also heartily disagree with whoever has floated TH as a radishmate. I think they look quite clear.

Agreed, more likely if TH is mafia he's on other team.....with Mac

This is where it became funny.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:19 pm It's like the game shut down for an hour so I could have center stage. I'm so important.

I was waiting til you finished

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:28 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:19 pm It's like the game shut down for an hour so I could have center stage. I'm so important.

I was waiting til you finished

Please don't.

I wanted to see what you said about meeeee

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:28 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:19 pm It's like the game shut down for an hour so I could have center stage. I'm so important.

I was waiting til you finished

Please don't.

I wanted to see what you said about meeeee

I believe that. It must be very exciting to wait for an analysis from JaggedJimmyJay. But that doesn't stop you from doing things.

I think this entire project is counterproductive.
So I guess I should be doing something else.

SVS is scum.
Change my mind.

I support it.
Vote Mac

No I don’t.
Invite Mac

I’m definitely voting for Radishes until someone can tell me what he’s doing in the poll

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:43 pm Master Radishes is still on the poll, let's lynch him again

curses too slow

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:24 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:57 pm Hey nanook here's my biggest problem with you. You keep using that weird af shrug emoji in every single post when we have not one but TWO excellent shrug emoji of our own. One of which was made by our own esteemed host Long Con.

I like my shrug emoji. It’s my favorite emoji

(It literally comes up when I type emoji)

I used the shrug emoji for a long time here but it never comes out as I want it to.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:11 am This is amazing in the worst way you guys. I've nailed scum on both teams and just have to pick which one we lynch first. Tony gimme some power analysis or something

Lynch the master team one first unless kill doesn’t get inherited in which case kill other one

Green Arrow’s Bow appeared on the items list. That wasn’t there before ?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:05 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:45 pm @Long Con @Black Rock
Two things
When a mafia team is eliminated, does the remaining team then kill every night, or still just every other night?
And re: the poll, Radish is on it and Colin is not.

Thanks, fixed. Tony is currently voting for Colin. :o

If a team gets eliminated, the other team kills every night.

Kill Mac

I think our best option today is to lynch someone who has high equity for being on the master’s team with Mac and also without Mac.

That sounds stupid so let’s phrase this differently:
If Mac is scum, is there anyone who is surely also scum?
Lynch them instead.
Mac has a very limited range of possibilities and if we lynch him on autopilot and we’re wrong we risk having no leads on what will soon be a fully powered scum team.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:33 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:24 am That sounds stupid so let’s phrase this differently:
If Mac is scum, is there anyone who is surely also scum?
Lynch them instead.
Mac has a very limited range of possibilities and if we lynch him on autopilot and we’re wrong we risk having no leads on what will soon be a fully powered scum team.

And you think this person is me? Pray tell why.

You’re my stall vote before I get my computer out to do the work. I’m trying to figure out why I read you as town you on day 1. Realistically, you’re fifth suspect on the list but you’re first suspect for being on the team we need to kill someone on.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:50 am Tony, I couldn't find your list of 5 so it would be great if you would list them with a blurb. Maybe that's what you're getting ready to do.

Gimme a few minutes

Alright before I begin, some words on method:

Jack said something earlier along the line of “Radishes flipping scum halves the amount of spots left for Mac” and I initially didn’t find much importance in that. But it has to do with plans: the plan yesterday was that if Radish were town Mac was very likely scum and if Radish were scum we could search and easily find links from that. Radish flipping scum opened up new possibilities, but I and others then pointed out that lynching two anti-monitor members in succession from this point probably leaves town at (11-13)-4 or so, not terrible but not great.
So then we return to a Mac lynch. Reasonable. But this, I think, carries its own set of problems: there’s no plan. Just as town has a bad winrate even lynching scum day 1 in normal games, lynching Mac now — when Mac is likely to not last the night (Bow and scum kill) and certainly not the game — leaves us without any place to go. So we should be looking for someone who has the highest chance of being bad WITHOUT being on a team with Mac or Rad/Sab. Maybe we lynch Mac at the end of the day, but we need to at least have some idea.

Therefore, I will split analyses into three groups of which everyone can be scored:
Bad with R/S, Bad with Mac, Bad w/o R/M

For instance
TSP:
Bad with R/S
Low
Bad with Mac
Medium High
Bad w/o R/M
Low

I think the ideal lynch candidate for today will have results of
Low
Medium
High

But anyone with
High
High
High
Or something should obviously be looked at.

Now I’ll pull out my computer and open a spreadsheet and read some ISOs.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:34 am Question for all you Mac believers:

If Mac is good, then what's up with his position on me?
Am I bad? Am I good? Am I whatever is convenient to get Mac out of the situation he is in?

Mac has no scruples. He has no positions. When engaged with (on sabie) he rebuffs because you can't demagogue by acting in good faith. He claims the suspicion of him is all toxic personal attacks. It is not. I suspect Mac because he is not trying to solve the game. He is trying to win. We all are, however, some of us need to solve the game to win. Mac just needs to kill everyone else.

Turnip Head is employing the exact same strategy. Engage in bad faith. Make civ reads, and don't have a dialogue. Obfuscate. Do whatever you can to muddy the record.

I don't like these two in this game. They need to start trying to get lynched.

Has anyone town read Turnip? Is there any reason to?

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:45 am Tony, I have no idea what you're talking about tbh. That is super confusing to me

Lemme have my science project

Short: I am a contrarian and don’t think we should lynch Mac or G-Man/Sig and am looking for a good other option.