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reasonableKenway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:38 pm Oh wait, Sloonei isn't in this game, I have to pick another one up.
JJJ is the likeliest candidate but putting him and Dunya on a scum team is probably predictable, so I'll choose MacDougall instead. I don't know why but I always want to be on his good side. Also, I've been scum with him before, so there's that.
and he also said this later:honestly most of his ISO feels rather sketchy imo. his input on Mac/Jay, his random not-connected-to-anything-else Epi prod, asking when mafia got PMs, input about Sloonei appearing on lists, and I'm not sure why he directed that last thing about ken/gwil to cbobTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:06 pmWell I’m from Badguyia so WIFOM that
@linki give a guy some time, the day just started
^ I mean come on guys this is a top-tier nut-related username joke from your resident nut-related usernutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:45 pmk if colonialbob is a coconut bonbon then you're Macadamia cause you're being a real tough nut to crackMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:41 pmSo you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:36 pmHow can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 pm Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.
I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon
honestly I feel the same, I was also surprised it hadn't been longer but I guess some of the discussion was happening before the phase officially started but there have been a *lot* of posts today. hopefully I'm getting a job soon though >_>
It's a role that the scum might want to snatch up so the town can't learn their secrets. (and while I'm writing this I see this has been answered already)Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:00 pm TSP is the Shaman: "Forbidden Knowledge - Each night, you may choose a role from role list and reveal any secrets or background powers associated with it. Using this on scum roles too often without using it on enough draft/promotion roles will result in negative consequences."
This would be a very odd baddie role, because why would a scum use this on a scummate?
He requested it, I didn't think for too long about it and I was still trying to wrap my head around all the roles so I didn't even consider that it was a role the scum might want to claim. I was more wary of Wilgy asking for a killing role. I think I must have associated info roles with townies wanting them, and I wanted to keep the draft going relatively quickly so I unfortunately didn't think about it for too long.
Do you seriously not have any reads? I just skimmed your ISO and it's, like, 97% fluff.Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:47 pmThat is correct.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:02 amI'm more concerned with "There's nobody I dislike." than his town reads on Dr. White and you. Quin doesn't dislike anyone yet.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:00 amSorry, what are you talking about? You mean when I took a while to give someone a role because I hadnt read the rules?
Say what?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:53 pmNutella what do you think about Kyle?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:46 pmIt's a role that the scum might want to snatch up so the town can't learn their secrets. (and while I'm writing this I see this has been answered already)Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:00 pm TSP is the Shaman: "Forbidden Knowledge - Each night, you may choose a role from role list and reveal any secrets or background powers associated with it. Using this on scum roles too often without using it on enough draft/promotion roles will result in negative consequences."
This would be a very odd baddie role, because why would a scum use this on a scummate?
That being said, I wouldn't want to mislynch the Shaman if Tony is civ after all, but I'm really not feeling good about him.
Hey that's me and I resent the assumption
If I unwittingly gave such a powerful role to the mafia then it is my duty to repent by lynching the guy D1
Also, he still hasn't explained his mysterious accusation of Kyle, has he? Wtf was that about?
And as far as it being a role scum would want, I think it would be pretty obvious if I were using my power in a scum manner. It’s hard to fake being a Town shaman if you are not a Town shaman.
..Or this I guess. I'm getting confused again loldunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:56 pmI don't think so. Shaman is literally the easiest role to fake if you're scum. Check your scum mates out? Use their fake backstories and roles as results. Check townies, discover their powers and use it to scum's added advantage. What's hard about that, exactly?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:53 pm It’s hard to fake being a Town shaman if you are not a Town shaman.
Intriguing. I'll look into him.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:45 pmI don't have a read on White's alignment. Usually he has this serious business aura to him regardless of alignment, and will look like someone who is seriously trying to solve the game. But as the game marches on, it eventually becomes evident when he is taking a more passive approach, which means he is bad.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:09 pm Out of all the people I've yelled at and argued with today, the one who has satisfied me the least has been Dr. White.
VOTE DR. WHITE
In most games I'd give a newcomer a one-day grace period, but unfortunately I don't think we can afford to be so kind when there are so many first-timers at once.
This is based on the one game I recall playing with where he was bad and I helped catch him. Not sure if it's a general thing.
This is a decent post with some early impressions (Jay half-jokingly[?] called out the three uses of "interesting" but I do not subscribe to the notion that it's a tell of any kind, partially because I use such words often myself)Dr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:44 pm I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution? Seems like he was trying to feign activity. The split between him and colonial is very interesting.
I however found JJJ "strong town reading" Colonial interesting, since it was solely on the grounds of him listing his own reads. Mafia can easily do that as well as to not appear like they are parroting . That is a very interesting link given the colonial-Mac dynamic.
Nutella jumped on Mac pretty early. Not sure if it was a pressure vote, but it really put me off towards them.
Not sure how DDL plays here. He seems more passive and backing down a bit, I will keep a watch on him for sure. Anyone who wants to give me his meta summary feel free.
Other person of note was dunya. Pretty much just need more time to see if she's genuinely town leading, or "the string pulling" mafioso that was mentioned earlier.
Don't know how I feel about this post tbh. The sprityo thing simply led me to believe he was a civ being honest about an obnoxious passive. Not sure why White decides there has to be a scum between sprityo, LC, and Kites by grouping together sprityo's claims with the latter two's pattern of claiming ignorance. [mention]Dr. White[/mention] do you still stand by this? Can you elaborate on your feelings re: LC and Kites?Dr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:55 pmIt was these exchanges @dunya . Him weirdly giving info while talking aloud to the host, followed by being so worried about getting lynched when only one vote was placed.sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:18 pmwell the prior information doesn’t correspond to the new present since I didn’t have my background to my role yet.dunya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:15 pmThis post along with your general attitude of posting "good" when I said I want to lynch you (tongue in cheek mostly, for your--I assumed--tongue in cheek posts) make me scratch my head. It's like you're itching to be lynched? Idgi. Why else would you share this info with us?
So your connections don’t match up, in regards to sharing: I don’t want to have some kinda silly vote on me and end up Lynched when someone else clearly had more votes and cause some kind of schism in the rational of the game.
Unless of course there’s the case of role reveals upon death which off the top of my head I can’t remember is a thing
He and Longcon are giving my vibes of trying to veil themselves, Spirit with this shtick and LC with his "ignorance of everything". Feel similar with kites and his continued presence in the game being only to pop in and let us know he doesn't get things, and will try to do better later. I firmly believe a scum would be between these 3, but I do believe of all of them that spirit may just be a town power role for whatever reason decided to info blab.
What
ok, this exchange is a little silly but ultimately a decent look imoDr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:23 pmI do feel my arguments and insights have been well reasoned and that is seemingly what he likes most about me and my reads, so yeah.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:16 pmI make note of it because his reason for giving you civilian credit is pretty similar to my reason for giving him civilian credit. Do you believe you have earned that credit to this point?Dr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:13 pmEither wanted to give his two cents on me since no has read me, or trying to soft buddy me. I think the most possibly alarming thing would be that it came out of nowhere and he hasn't posted in a while before that read.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:03 pmDr. White, your read on this immediately please.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:59 pm I like Dr White so far. Throwing out firm reads with thought process behind them.
How do you feel? This is the same type of posting that made you strong town read him correct?
I think the post is fine personally and fits the paradigm of colonialbob's content to this point which I have generally liked.
same tbhDr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:46 pmThis post makes my spine tingle.Kenway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:35 pm So far, my impressions are you lot post... a lot. It's a bit hard to follow, especially since I'm playing this game on mobile. Anyway, I have a bit of bias towards Rymers so it might show up in my votes and reads.
I have no clear reads at this point, I'll wait until more bodies pop up down the river.
I'd just feel bad if he turned out to be scum and I was responsible for giving him that role, and since I suspect him for other reasons I was afraid that may be the case and if so it would be best to get him out of the way. But if not it would suck to lose him. Given what he's said recently about the role being hard to fake re: revealing scum roles, I'm a bit more inclined to give him a chance to prove that and so we can learn about some roles in the meantime. So I am backing off him for now and actively looking for a better vote candidate.gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:20 pmI'm getting weird feelings about this post. Why are you already apologizing for giving the shaman role to scum when we have no idea what Tony's alignment is? It looks like you're backpedaling when there's no need to. Someone had to give the shaman role to someone blindly. Why are you trying to distance yourself from it, and do you really think it would be a good idea to lynch Tony knowing what we do about that role?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:46 pmIt's a role that the scum might want to snatch up so the town can't learn their secrets. (and while I'm writing this I see this has been answered already)Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:00 pm TSP is the Shaman: "Forbidden Knowledge - Each night, you may choose a role from role list and reveal any secrets or background powers associated with it. Using this on scum roles too often without using it on enough draft/promotion roles will result in negative consequences."
This would be a very odd baddie role, because why would a scum use this on a scummate?
That being said, I wouldn't want to mislynch the Shaman if Tony is civ after all, but I'm really not feeling good about him.
Hey that's me and I resent the assumption
If I unwittingly gave such a powerful role to the mafia then it is my duty to repent by lynching the guy D1
Also, he still hasn't explained his mysterious accusation of Kyle, has he? Wtf was that about?
DrWilgyrundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:47 pm unvote Marmot
vote: Nutella
Gth, who would you kill right now? Think carefully as this person actually will die. I have a secret day kill.
ah, you've never played with me though. if there's one thing that characterizes me as a player it's being waffly and noncommittal, especially early in the game when there is little to go on. I'm constantly going back and forth on my reads as the discussion develops and I change my mind a lot on day 1 in every game I've ever played. And I use noncommittal/hedgey language all the time, just being honest that I am unsure of anything. sometimes I even change my mind while writing a stream-of-consciousness post and flip flop on someone. I always get suspected for this and I've tried to play more assertively lately but it's really difficult for me, I always end up wafflinggwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:48 pm I looked at nutella's ISO because of that post and to me, it's characterized mostly but non-commitment. So far she's made two votes this one for Mac, which demonstrates my point nicely. Look at these phrases: "Can't decide how to feel," "Maybe it's excusable," but apparently it's enough for her to place a vote. Looks like she's trying to dip her toes in the water with a case that was already floating around, but trying not to commit too much in case it didn't pan out.
Which it obviously didn't. Here is the one strong stance nutella seems to take. And she backs down from it 2 hours and 2 posts later here. Again, very very noncommittal. And only because you don't think Mac would fake not knowing his alignment as scum? I can certainly imagine Mac doing that.
All this trepidation combined with that weird post on giving Tony shaman is enough for me to VOTE NUTELLA
I figured. I think it's a decent question to ask of anyone/everyone at this stage
He's MIA, I haven't even seen the usual zany shit from him since the draft (he hasn't posted at all since the actual day started). Laying that low, combined with the set of roles he requested, put him at a pretty bad spot for me atm.
No it's not just that, it's that they haven't posted at all during the day phase. They need to say something. Anything.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:54 pm Well, maybe, but they're also the remaining four who haven't said anything re: Epignosis' request, so I want to know why nutella thinks they need to answer it and why not answering it makes them seem suspicious.
They're great with nutella, just sayinrundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:00 pmIf I wanted waffles I'd go to Denny's.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:57 pmah, you've never played with me though. if there's one thing that characterizes me as a player it's being waffly and noncommittal, especially early in the game when there is little to go on. I'm constantly going back and forth on my reads as the discussion develops and I change my mind a lot on day 1 in every game I've ever played. And I use noncommittal/hedgey language all the time, just being honest that I am unsure of anything. sometimes I even change my mind while writing a stream-of-consciousness post and flip flop on someone. I always get suspected for this and I've tried to play more assertively lately but it's really difficult for me, I always end up wafflinggwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:48 pm I looked at nutella's ISO because of that post and to me, it's characterized mostly but non-commitment. So far she's made two votes this one for Mac, which demonstrates my point nicely. Look at these phrases: "Can't decide how to feel," "Maybe it's excusable," but apparently it's enough for her to place a vote. Looks like she's trying to dip her toes in the water with a case that was already floating around, but trying not to commit too much in case it didn't pan out.
Which it obviously didn't. Here is the one strong stance nutella seems to take. And she backs down from it 2 hours and 2 posts later here. Again, very very noncommittal. And only because you don't think Mac would fake not knowing his alignment as scum? I can certainly imagine Mac doing that.
All this trepidation combined with that weird post on giving Tony shaman is enough for me to VOTE NUTELLA
Deflect attention? Nah man that's a stretch. I was pretty sure you were only asking me, but it wasn't totally clear, and I answered but I'd be happy to see others answer it as well.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:01 pmI didn't wanna ask everyone, I wanted to ask you. Your attempt to deflect attention to others is noted.
yeah, I asked for wyvern or pegasus for mostly flavory reasons, though like it would have been cool to get the vig but I totally don't blame DDL for giving me the weaker of the ones I asked for, as I probably would have done for Wilgy had Tony not come along with a more straightforward requestKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:10 pmdidn't you also ask for the wyvern though?
hm I think I feel pretty neutral about him, lemme look at his iso
lolKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pmbut don't you regularly describe yourself as "waffly"? why would you want to willingly subject yourself to the anxiety and stress of playing the vigilante role and having to make a gun to head decision every single night?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:14 pmyeah, I asked for wyvern or pegasus for mostly flavory reasons, though like it would have been cool to get the vig but I totally don't blame DDL for giving me the weaker of the ones I asked for, as I probably would have done for Wilgy had Tony not come along with a more straightforward requestKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:10 pmdidn't you also ask for the wyvern though?
I've had fun with vig roles in the past, though it's been a while. I think I'd take a different attitude to the role than I generally have toward suspicions in the thread (and day 1 would have at least passed which is always the hardest)yeah, I honestly don't remember when the last time was but I have some recollection of doing decently well with them.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmSkyler scumslipped. I know his meta. He scumslips all the time.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
explain.....but... it's usually bad to waste a lynch on a civ. scum kills are all going to be civs, so isn't it better to get nightkilled than waste numbers on a mislynch?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmIf they are top suspect of town then they should go willingly to death to clear things up after saying their peace, but why make yourself target of scumKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
In the context of not fighting a lynch it's more likely to help town save time if you're too controversial and need to get out
nah bro I legitimately don't get why he's suspicious. like what is the baddie motive for his argument hereMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pm Colin is a civ. Nutella is Mafia so knows it and is distancing from the lynch. It is known.
dude nice try but rundontwalk is literally my top townread lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:47 pmIt was bait to attract Mafia. You chowed down on the bait.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmSkyler scumslipped. I know his meta. He scumslips all the time.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
because there's no baddie motive that makes sense for what either of them are doing. (and because I have town read both of them for other reasons)JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:48 pm nutella, why do you think Epi and Colin are both civilians?
lmao no I use the word legitimately all the timeMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:50 pmYou used the word legitimately because as scum you are capable of illegitimate case making. This is a scum slip. Epignosis agrees.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:48 pmnah bro I legitimately don't get why he's suspicious. like what is the baddie motive for his argument hereMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pm Colin is a civ. Nutella is Mafia so knows it and is distancing from the lynch. It is known.
....but I didn't? why am I suspicious for having an original opiniondunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:51 pm holy fuck can you guys stop posting for 20 seconds?
seconded. reads like TMI. she'd have had better chances by being opportunistic and joining the colin bash imo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pm Colin is a civ. Nutella is Mafia so knows it and is distancing from the lynch. It is known.
again I use the word literally all the time. linguistic arguments of this variety are bullshit, and I'm a linguist lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:53 pmAs opposed to figuratively. Overuse of qualifying terms. Scumslip again. Lynch on sight.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:50 pmdude nice try but rundontwalk is literally my top townread lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:47 pmIt was bait to attract Mafia. You chowed down on the bait.
Epi is doing his "I don't care what you think" schtick, and Colin has provided a couple other original thoughts/insights and overall his iso gave me town feels.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:56 pmI don't agree with the former. What are the other reasons?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:52 pmbecause there's no baddie motive that makes sense for what either of them are doing. (and because I have town read both of them for other reasons)JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:48 pm nutella, why do you think Epi and Colin are both civilians?
you like salad huhIron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.
MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall
As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.
VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
I don't understand this? do you want the amount of time it took me to write that post? I don't do elaborate iso analyses like some other people, I just skim it and write out general impressions, maybe with one or two quotes, so it doesn't take very longMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:03 pmShare with us the minutes between your post declaring intent to iso Colin and your brief summary post of his iso plz?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:02 pmEpi is doing his "I don't care what you think" schtick, and Colin has provided a couple other original thoughts/insights and overall his iso gave me town feels.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:56 pmI don't agree with the former. What are the other reasons?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:52 pmbecause there's no baddie motive that makes sense for what either of them are doing. (and because I have town read both of them for other reasons)JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:48 pm nutella, why do you think Epi and Colin are both civilians?
