Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[Quin]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] can you update the first page with 3J's ISO links pls

[gwilikers6]

Oh wait, Sloonei isn't in this game, I have to pick another one up.

JJJ is the likeliest candidate but putting him and Dunya on a scum team is probably predictable, so I'll choose MacDougall instead. I don't know why but I always want to be on his good side. Also, I've been scum with him before, so there's that.

This post is so scummy you've gotta be town.

@cbob Thoughts?

If you're asking for my thoughts on cbob, I just looked through his posts and I'm pretty neutral on him. Lots of comments on setup and mechanics, which is generally something I look for in scum, but is more understandable in a game like this. I'm not sure how genuine his suspicion of Mac is coming off to me. As I've already said, I find that case to be pretty pedantic, maybe moreso from Jay than from cbob, but still, I don't think there's much to it. There are elements of OMGUS going both ways between cbob and Mac, and of the two, at this moment I'm more confident in Mac being town.

[nutella]

hmm Tony asked me to give him Shaman specifically, and that could be a role mafia would want and he also said this later:

I feel sorry for the townies who get assigned to Badguyia. You guys are doomed with a microsope. I wouldn't be surprised when scum people (probably 1) claim they are from Badguyia to win points. I'm watching.

Well I’m from Badguyia so WIFOM that

@linki give a guy some time, the day just started

honestly most of his ISO feels rather sketchy imo. his input on Mac/Jay, his random not-connected-to-anything-else Epi prod, asking when mafia got PMs, input about Sloonei appearing on lists, and I'm not sure why he directed that last thing about ken/gwil to cbob

All this combined with not wanting to vote for Mac anymore, and the fact that my pretty pegasus sister brother already voted for him:

VOTE: TONYSTARKPRIME

[gwilikers6]

He is the only player to claim a homeland without it being listed in the OP, correct?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh wait, Sloonei isn't in this game, I have to pick another one up.

JJJ is the likeliest candidate but putting him and Dunya on a scum team is probably predictable, so I'll choose MacDougall instead. I don't know why but I always want to be on his good side. Also, I've been scum with him before, so there's that.

This post is so scummy you've gotta be town.

@cbob Thoughts?

If you're asking for my thoughts on cbob, I just looked through his posts and I'm pretty neutral on him. Lots of comments on setup and mechanics, which is generally something I look for in scum, but is more understandable in a game like this. I'm not sure how genuine his suspicion of Mac is coming off to me. As I've already said, I find that case to be pretty pedantic, maybe moreso from Jay than from cbob, but still, I don't think there's much to it. There are elements of OMGUS going both ways between cbob and Mac, and of the two, at this moment I'm more confident in Mac being town.

I wasn’t but thanks for sharing!

[Long Con]

mm @Long Con what was your reasoning for voting Tony? I could join you on that maybe. I feel like I don't have much of an impression of him/he's a bit blendy so I might iso him

I agreed that the baddies would be laying low at this time, and he fit the bill. I gave aq list of names with the posting range I was looking at, and he was the only familiar one.

[TonyStarkPrime]

hmm Tony asked me to give him Shaman specifically, and that could be a role mafia would want and he also said this later:

I feel sorry for the townies who get assigned to Badguyia. You guys are doomed with a microsope. I wouldn't be surprised when scum people (probably 1) claim they are from Badguyia to win points. I'm watching.

Well I’m from Badguyia so WIFOM that

@linki give a guy some time, the day just started

honestly most of his ISO feels rather sketchy imo. his input on Mac/Jay, his random not-connected-to-anything-else Epi prod, asking when mafia got PMs, input about Sloonei appearing on lists, and I'm not sure why he directed that last thing about ken/gwil to cbob

All this combined with not wanting to vote for Mac anymore, and the fact that my pretty pegasus sister brother already voted for him:

VOTE: TONYSTARKPRIME

I think more people should respond about when they got mafia PMs.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

dunya
Kylemii
Dragon D. Luffy
colonialbob

rundontwalk
Marmot
Kenway
gwilikers6
nutella
MacDougall
Kites
sig
Epignosis
Long Con

ColinIsCool
Quin
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy
rabbit8
sprityo
Dr. White
Iron_Dwarf
lapluie

As usual, the tiers are ordered but the names within them are not. First person to quote the entire rainbow list is getting mooned.

[dunya]

I think more people should respond about when they got mafia PMs.

do you want exact timestamps?

[nutella]

What do you mean by mafia PMs? I never got a mafia PM


btw, has [mention]rabbit8[/mention] even been online since the draft? he needs to get in here. bad pegasus sister

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think more people should respond about when they got mafia PMs.

do you want exact timestamps?

Before we go down this road I want to ask the host. It sounds like loophole shit.

[dunya]

dunya
Kylemii
Dragon D. Luffy
colonialbob

rundontwalk
Marmot
Kenway
gwilikers6
nutella
MacDougall
Kites
sig
Epignosis
Long Con

ColinIsCool
Quin
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy
rabbit8
sprityo
Dr. White
Iron_Dwarf
lapluie

As usual, the tiers are ordered but the names within them are not. First person to quote the entire rainbow list is getting mooned.

is mooned a sexual thing? I'm not sure...

[Quin]

dunya
Kylemii
Dragon D. Luffy
colonialbob

rundontwalk
Marmot
Kenway
gwilikers6
nutella
MacDougall
Kites
sig
Epignosis
Long Con

ColinIsCool
Quin
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy
rabbit8
sprityo
Dr. White
Iron_Dwarf
lapluie

As usual, the tiers are ordered but the names within them are not. First person to quote the entire rainbow list is getting mooned.

show me those beautiful buttocks

[nutella]

do you mean backstory PMs?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], do you object to players sharing when they received their background PMs? Answer privately or publicly (or don't), whatever your preference.

[dunya]

I think more people should respond about when they got mafia PMs.

do you want exact timestamps?

Before we go down this road I want to ask the host. It sounds like loophole shit.

I wasn't going to provide it; I want to know what TSP is thinking and how he's thinking.

[dunya]

show me those beautiful buttocks

2 slow babe, 2 slow

[nutella]

looks like Jay owes dunya a backstory PM if you know what I'm sayin

[TonyStarkPrime]

do you mean backstory PMs?

Well it was originally a kind of joke where I attempted to get mafia members to reveal themselves.
Then it was pretty much just a joke.

One thing though: some of you knew your roles way earlier than I did. So I’m not gonna delve into that but I’m curious if there’s a more nefarious reason.

[gwilikers6]

Yeah I don’t like time stamping PMs and stuff like that. Seems lame.

[Long Con]

Yeah I don’t like time stamping PMs and stuff like that. Seems lame.

Yeah that ain't happening. I'd rather play the game for real.

[dunya]

do you mean backstory PMs?

Well it was originally a kind of joke where I attempted to get mafia members to reveal themselves.
Then it was pretty much just a joke.

hate this. really hate this.

[TonyStarkPrime]

do you mean backstory PMs?

Well it was originally a kind of joke where I attempted to get mafia members to reveal themselves.
Then it was pretty much just a joke.

hate this. really hate this.

Okay. Why?

[nutella]

damn second time I made one of the funniest posts in syndicate history and it's completely ignored

[gwilikers6]

do you mean backstory PMs?

Well it was originally a kind of joke where I attempted to get mafia members to reveal themselves.
Then it was pretty much just a joke.

hate this. really hate this.

+1
I’m not buying that.

[TonyStarkPrime]

damn second time I made one of the funniest posts in syndicate history and it's completely ignored

I laughed.

[nutella]

Untrue. He was the only ping I saw by post during the initial read through. The rest are sus via gth.

How can a player be suspicious without an actual ping? Are their avatars scarier than usual?

I might be willing to call colonialbob cinnabon

So you have never done a gth and called someone scum before ever feeling it until gth?

k if colonialbob is a coconut bonbon then you're Macadamia cause you're being a real tough nut to crack

^ I mean come on guys this is a top-tier nut-related username joke from your resident nut-related user

[nutella]

Running tally:

[2] TonyStarkPrime - Long Con, nutella
[1] MacDougall - Dragon D. Luffy
[1] DrWilgy - Marmot
[1] sprityo - JaggedJimmyJay
[1] Epignosis - dunya
[1] rabbit8 - colonialbob

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Not Voting: ColinIsCool, Dr. White, DrWilgy, Epignosis, gwilikers6, Iron_Dwarf, Kenway, Kites, Kylemii, lapluie, MacDougall, Quin, rabbit8, rundontwalk, sig, sprityo, TonyStarkPrime

[nutella]

Sorry that should be lapluie on Jay's vote I didn't edit it

[Long Con]

It was very funny, sister.

[nutella]

Running tally:

[2] TonyStarkPrime - Long Con, nutella
[1] MacDougall - Dragon D. Luffy
[1] DrWilgy - Marmot
[1] lapluie - JaggedJimmyJay
[1] Epignosis - dunya
[1] rabbit8 - colonialbob

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Not Voting: ColinIsCool, Dr. White, DrWilgy, Epignosis, gwilikers6, Iron_Dwarf, Kenway, Kites, Kylemii, lapluie, MacDougall, Quin, rabbit8, rundontwalk, sig, sprityo, TonyStarkPrime

[dunya]

do you mean backstory PMs?

Well it was originally a kind of joke where I attempted to get mafia members to reveal themselves.
Then it was pretty much just a joke.

hate this. really hate this.

Okay. Why?

I didn't feel you were trying to be "funny" at all; and trying to pass it off as a joke now when shit gets real and backtrack the seriousness of your request looks shady to me.

I can't say your thought process has all been coherent, but you have a strong role, which is a huge asset if you're town so I wouldn't be quick to lynch you, but I hope you turn this around and inspire confidence in you again.

What were you hoping to gleam from learning when people received their backstories, exactly?

[ColinIsCool]

JJJ, what’s the difference between your tiers of green? Are you saying you have “very strong” town reads on 4 players, somehow, and “also town” reads on 10 more?

[Kylemii]

I didn't like Tony's "wifom that" post either. I feel like saying "I'm a civ from badguyia" would probably be something any mafia from badguyia would want people to think....

That said.... If any role were likely to have badguyia background homeland, it would make sense that it would be the shaman. shaman are almost always recruited in enemy territory during later chapters

[Long Con]

I find the idea of Tony asking that too-ridiculous-to-be-considered question being some plan as far-fetched.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JJJ, what’s the difference between your tiers of green? Are you saying you have “very strong” town reads on 4 players, somehow, and “also town” reads on 10 more?

Tiers can be translated to:

~ This is a strong civilian read ~

~ I lean in the civilian direction ~

~ This is not a civilian read ~

[gwilikers6]

This is the first time I’ve played mafia going to bed early and waking up for work has been a concern, and let me tell ya, Mafia is not conducive to that.

[ColinIsCool]

BTW, since we are already demonstrating that we’ll screw up the vote tally and the GM definitely should keep track independently, what about including a tag-word any time a person votes so they can ctrl f them all easily? Something that we wouldn’t say in any mafia context, like “asparagus.” Just a random thought I had right now

[ColinIsCool]

JJJ, what’s the difference between your tiers of green? Are you saying you have “very strong” town reads on 4 players, somehow, and “also town” reads on 10 more?

Tiers can be translated to:

~ This is a strong civilian read ~

~ I lean in the civilian direction ~

~ This is not a civilian read ~

Care to explain the strong reads then?

[dunya]

BTW, since we are already demonstrating that we’ll screw up the vote tally and the GM definitely should keep track independently, what about including a tag-word any time a person votes so they can ctrl f them all easily? Something that we wouldn’t say in any mafia context, like “asparagus.” Just a random thought I had right now

great idea. Asparagus is an ok veggie, but let's use the best veggie and call it aubergine.

[MacDougall]

Oh wait, Sloonei isn't in this game, I have to pick another one up.

JJJ is the likeliest candidate but putting him and Dunya on a scum team is probably predictable, so I'll choose MacDougall instead. I don't know why but I always want to be on his good side. Also, I've been scum with him before, so there's that.

reasonable

@MacDougall is kenway on your good side

After he said he is scared of me and that I am the only Aussie rymer he isn't friends with I am gonna say no.

[colonialbob]

[mention]dunya[/mention] what are your reads on non-RYM folks?

[colonialbob]

Jackofhearts2005 can you update the first page with 3J's ISO links pls

They're in a spoiler under the player list fyi

[MacDougall]

Also the question is pingy because I don't understand it's purpose. Are you trying to blend? Are you trying to provoke interaction between myself and Kenway? Or heaven forefend was it a joke?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Care to explain the strong reads then?

Sure. I'll give you the individual explanations and the philosophy, because some people have asserted here that strong Day 1 reads are impossible (the silliest shit).

dunya - As I said before, I have never, with one possible exception, seen a mafioso who fits her paradigm in this game. If all these factors are considered: the pace of the game thread, her place in it, and the degree to which she leads the post count, there have been zero examples in my Mafia life to my memory. I know people have said things like "but I dominated a thread once as a bad guy!" or "mafia love to be in control!" -- they're not understanding me. I have done that shit too. This is an echelon above those things. I've been all over the Internet and played a crap load of games and I have seen it once [arguably] from a player who is not in this game. She looks to me like an obvious civilian, and the very sort who will be subject to a bunch of silly unfounded tinfoil during her time here. I know how that feels better than anyone.

Kylemii - I think he has one of the most recognizable town styles there is, and he looks exactly the part. More accurately, his style would apply to "non-scum" roles and work for independents too, but those don't exist in this game. This is a meta read, and it is a strong one. I think his posts would simply be of a different character, probably more stiff and fewer in number, if he was mafia.

Dragon D. Luffy - His hunting effort is the most genuine in appearance of anyone in this game, in my opinion. I have felt good about pretty much every game-relevant comment he has put in this thread even when I don't necessarily agree.

colonialbob - This read is similar to DDL, if not necessarily as strong given the lower contribution rate, it is of the same character. When he has put reads in the thread, he has exhibited a tone and a mindset that reads sincerely to me on a consistent basis.

The lighter green names have each done at least one thing that looks civilian in character to me or are otherwise beneficiaries of context even if I cannot state those reads with the same confidence.

Philosophy:

Too many damned civilians are wimps. Make fucking reads. Be assertive. Believe in yourselves. But but but what if I'm WRONGGGG???????!!!!!?!?!?!? Who gives a shit? It's Day 1. There's a whole game in front of us. If I'm wrong about someone, I have plenty of time to figure that out. State your reads in the moment as you come upon them, and believe in the inspiration that put them in your head.

[dunya]

@dunya what are your reads on non-RYM folks?

colonialbob - civvish
Dragon D. Luffy - civ
Dr. White - iffy
DrWilgy - neutral
Epignosis - woman hater
Kylemii - civ
lapluie - iffy
Long Con - neutral
Marmot - civ
nutella - neutral
Quin - neutral
rabbit8 - neutral
sig - civvish
sprityo - civ
TonyStarkPrime - iffy

[dunya]

@dunya what are your reads on non-RYM folks?

colonialbob - civvish
Dragon D. Luffy - civ
Dr. White - iffy
DrWilgy - neutral
Epignosis - woman hater
Kylemii - civ
lapluie - iffy
Long Con - neutral
Marmot - civ
nutella - neutral
Quin - neutral
rabbit8 - neutral
sig - civvish
sprityo - civ
TonyStarkPrime - iffy

if you want info on any of them, let me know.

[colonialbob]

@dunya what are your reads on non-RYM folks?

colonialbob - civvish
Dragon D. Luffy - civ
Dr. White - iffy
DrWilgy - neutral
Epignosis - woman hater
Kylemii - civ
lapluie - iffy
Long Con - neutral
Marmot - civ
nutella - neutral
Quin - neutral
rabbit8 - neutral
sig - civvish
sprityo - civ
TonyStarkPrime - iffy

if you want info on any of them, let me know.

Would be interested in marmot and/or sprit. Ty

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also the question is pingy because I don't understand it's purpose. Are you trying to blend? Are you trying to provoke interaction between myself and Kenway? Or heaven forefend was it a joke?

What does blend mean in this context? I’ve seen it twice this game and don’t recall seeing it before.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh wait, Sloonei isn't in this game, I have to pick another one up.

JJJ is the likeliest candidate but putting him and Dunya on a scum team is probably predictable, so I'll choose MacDougall instead. I don't know why but I always want to be on his good side. Also, I've been scum with him before, so there's that.

This post is so scummy you've gotta be town.

Why did you read this post as scummy?