The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:12 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:11 pm Triple J makes me nervous...regardless of his alignment.

I feel like too many people are too willing to follow his lead. It's too early to be giving him civ status tbh.

Why ain't you vote yet, homes?

ive always been a late voter and im still not quite used to changeable votes. Before my hiatus changeable votes were a rarity. Seems like now its the norm.

you normally feel this comfy on a day one lynch train?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:10 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:09 pm you normally feel this comfy on a day one lynch train?

Nope. I believe my suspect has conceded though, so I feel pretty decent today.

interesting. So do you think any of the speedchuck voters are team mates of his looking for some sweet sweet civ cred?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:25 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:23 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:22 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:21 pmI don't have the energy to be the townchuck you want me to be.

I don't care about the townchuck I want you to be. I can't imagine you've been the townchuck you want you to be.

I can't help your lack of imagination.

Yeah this is crap. Get lynched.

I've given you 1,000 avenues to change my mind, and instead I get this junk.

well to be fair to speedchuck, it's possible that he has conceded as you say..but i dont think that necessarily means that he's mafia. If he's civ, he may think that it's pointless to fight back at this point with you being the leader of the lynch wagon. I dunno. You might be right and he's bad, but I don't think giving up means you are correct in your vote.

Ive only played 3 games in the past 2or 3 years so i could just be out of practice, but I have seen many a day one lynch go like this one seems to be going..and it's been rare in my experience that the lynch wagon actually caught a baddie.


Question for the room (minus JJJ of course) What will you think of JJJ if chuck flips civ?

will he become a suspect for you on day 2 or will you assume he was just wrong and let him keep his civvie civvington badge for another day?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:38 pm We have a game filled with people providing a better-than-their-norm effort, so anyone who is less motivated than usual stands out like a sore thumb.

ehh....i think that's faulty reasoning. since when does motivation level decide alignment? I have been an unmotivated civ, baddie, and indy in the past.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:42 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:40 pm will he become a suspect for you on day 2 or will you assume he was just wrong and let him keep his civvie civvington badge for another day?

Why are you focused on this now?

because im bored and feel like pushing buttons.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:46 pm JJJ: "speedchuck is good at Mafia and should be held to a high standard"

speedchuck: "I quit"

WTF?

this is what is confusing me tbh. You say he's good and should be held to a high standard....so his giving up indicates he's bad? Seems like to me if he was so good, he'd try to talk his way out of it, no? giving up might have a different reason behind it is all I mean.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:30 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:23 pmI back luna on this. The votes on chuck seem suspicious and I am not even close to certain of chuck's alignment either. From the get-go, JJJ has been saying BS about this player and that player whether is be of their civviness or baddiness. He has been doing whatever he can just to get people to participate. I think that this his vote for chuck and hard go on chuck is the same thing. I don;t think JJJ CARES if chuck si good or bad. I think he just thinks that it will get people working to solve the game. I think JJJ could be indie.

Apart from the indie thing, you're not far off here. Most of the things that I say and do in any Day 0/1 period is intended to generate a productive environment wherein the civilians have a reasonable opportunity to develop reads (both now and into future phases). I am playing the motivator and facilitator roles I described in the linked thread there. I think most successful civilian teams need someone doing these things.

That isn't to say I don't care about speedchuck's alignment though. I do. It isn't imperative to lynch a mafioso on Day 1, and the sky won't be falling if there's a mislynch. A correct lynch is still obviously preferred though, and I am trying my best to promote suspicions that I think are most likely to yield that result.

Have you ever done these things as mafia? If so, how often?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:11 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:08 pm Have you ever done these things as mafia? If so, how often?

I've certainly tried with mixed results. It's hard, my man.

yes, i can imagine which is why I asked.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:01 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:42 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:40 pm will he become a suspect for you on day 2 or will you assume he was just wrong and let him keep his civvie civvington badge for another day?

Why are you focused on this now?

Yeah I don't like Rey's deal here. Does he know speed is innocent? Looking to set up the blame game on Jay to distract from the real targets? It's somewhat bold to try and set up a Jay mislynch, bit maybe the boldness is the point.

you know what is hilarious? I said to myself earlier, "If speedchuck does flip civ I wonder who will be the one to suggest that I KNEW speedchuck is good because I'm bad?" Somehow it doesn't surprise me that it was you, Fredo.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:23 pmFredo?

what a weird day 1

im civvie as fuck so....i place my bet on the other one that doesnt include me. I have 200 bucks on it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am Nova looks great with luna’s flip.

I also give leetic a couple of townie points purely on the surface of his posts. He’s (relatively) new in town, but is puttinf forth a strong effort and making sure his voice is heard. That’s not going to lock him in as a town read, but it’s something I consider.

I feel like reywas is my strongest suspect coming out of this lynch. I’ll take a second look to see if I can identify why that is.

sling that poo now. maybe it'll stick later?

Man, I'm tellin ya, that pimp trick gangsta click album gonna be that fire. Watch what I tell ya.

I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:22 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:14 pm I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

Whose suspicion of you is bogus?

Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.

question....at what point did JoH2005 vote for Lunalee?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:29 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:22 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:14 pm I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

Whose suspicion of you is bogus?

Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.

Such "maybe". Such "possibly".

What makes Sloonei's the worst?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am Nova looks great with luna’s flip.

I also give leetic a couple of townie points purely on the surface of his posts. He’s (relatively) new in town, but is puttinf forth a strong effort and making sure his voice is heard. That’s not going to lock him in as a town read, but it’s something I consider.

I feel like reywas is my strongest suspect coming out of this lynch. I’ll take a second look to see if I can identify why that is.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:15 am I am on my phone and don’t feel like navigating the perils of a multi-quote post, but reywas’s mini interrogation of Jay seemed a little unmotivated. He was asking questions, but I didn’t get the impression he was really invested in the answers. His “what will people think if...” census felt particularly aimless.

Also, this was his contribution as the vote change whacke-iness was unfolding:

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:40 pm what a weird day 1

Not the best look.

talk about throwing shade. My questions to JJJ were unmotivated. Why do you think this sloondog? He can't give any baddie motivations for doing it of course. It just feels bad. keep at it and you will have a good backstory for voting JoeJoe tomorrow. Maybe you can just be the seed layer and someone else can take the fall for a bad lynch wagon.

Yeah, Sloonei's suspicion is bogus. I stand behind that fo sho.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:29 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:22 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:14 pm I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

Whose suspicion of you is bogus?

Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.

Such "maybe". Such "possibly".

What makes Sloonei's the worst?

i take the possibly nutella back. I thought she was the one that had questioned my reasons for askiung you questions. Apologies.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:51 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:46 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:29 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:22 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:14 pm I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

Whose suspicion of you is bogus?

Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.

Such "maybe". Such "possibly".

What makes Sloonei's the worst?

i take the possibly nutella back. I thought she was the one that had questioned my reasons for askiung you questions. Apologies.

I did do that.

Sloonei's post that i quoted above is what was in my brain at the time tho.

and you seemed to be trying to find baddie motivations behind me asking JJJ questions. Sloonei was 100% feels.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:05 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:57 pm and you seemed to be trying to find baddie motivations behind me asking JJJ questions. Sloonei was 100% feels.

I'd love some content not related to people's views of you

you say that as if all of my content this game has been the self centered variety.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:25 pm @reywaS, I have no idea what you think of speedchuck apart from one GTH read (good). Please help me out there.

sweet jesus you post a lot, brosephus. You remind me a lot of a certain bronzed kiwi.

I have no reason to suspect speedchuck really....but I have limited experience with almost everyone in this game after spending a few years away from the game. So, my reads of people are not based on history like the rest of you are able to. The only thing that weirds me out about Speedchuckle is how buddy buddy he's been with me...and looking back he's been at it since the start of the game. I'm not sure what to make of that. It could be that he actually has a strong town read of me...or it could mean he's a bad fellar and is latching on to me because he's seen me get lynched in my first two games back from hiatus for shit reasons and wants that sweet sweet civ cred when it happens again in this game. I dunno.

hot damn i am one self centered bastard. smh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:28 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:26 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:05 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:57 pm and you seemed to be trying to find baddie motivations behind me asking JJJ questions. Sloonei was 100% feels.

I'd love some content not related to people's views of you

you say that as if all of my content this game has been the self centered variety.

In recent memory a lot of his has been. I'd also like to hear what your reads are of everyone else apart from how people have treated you. There's value in the reads you've given on that front, but a different approach would help.

i appreciate what you are trying to accomplish with this request. I really do....but you are asking me to play the game in a way that i have never done. I am always been a fly by the seat of my Dickie's type of player. I've never been one to make detailed ISOs of everyone. I appreciate that people play this way, but I don't find it fun personally. Im far too scatterbrained for this style of play. I know there is a need for it in the game and i am appreciative of those that do play this way. I have just always been more reactive than proactive.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:31 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:26 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:05 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:57 pm and you seemed to be trying to find baddie motivations behind me asking JJJ questions. Sloonei was 100% feels.

I'd love some content not related to people's views of you

you say that as if all of my content this game has been the self centered variety.

Your content post-flip has been, and I'm trying to read you better so I want more content that does not involve yourself. This is not meant to imply all you've done all game is self-centered.

fair enough. I'm doing my best

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:33 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:44 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:29 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:22 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:14 pm I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....


wait for it

Whose suspicion of you is bogus?

Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.

Such "maybe". Such "possibly".

What makes Sloonei's the worst?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am Nova looks great with luna’s flip.

I also give leetic a couple of townie points purely on the surface of his posts. He’s (relatively) new in town, but is puttinf forth a strong effort and making sure his voice is heard. That’s not going to lock him in as a town read, but it’s something I consider.

I feel like reywas is my strongest suspect coming out of this lynch. I’ll take a second look to see if I can identify why that is.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:15 am I am on my phone and don’t feel like navigating the perils of a multi-quote post, but reywas’s mini interrogation of Jay seemed a little unmotivated. He was asking questions, but I didn’t get the impression he was really invested in the answers. His “what will people think if...” census felt particularly aimless.

Also, this was his contribution as the vote change whacke-iness was unfolding:

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:40 pm what a weird day 1

Not the best look.

talk about throwing shade. My questions to JJJ were unmotivated. Why do you think this sloondog? He can't give any baddie motivations for doing it of course. It just feels bad. keep at it and you will have a good backstory for voting JoeJoe tomorrow. Maybe you can just be the seed layer and someone else can take the fall for a bad lynch wagon.

Yeah, Sloonei's suspicion is bogus. I stand behind that fo sho.

Acting the part. I didn’t see (or feel),a clear civilian mindset in your posts, so I am questioning that.

oh really? Seemed more like you were trying to attach a tone to my questions that was not there to fit your "He feels bad" narrative.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:40 pm This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

This should not be in green. Softly pushing the narrative that you are town is not off topic. People really overuse green tags.

damn...i thought it was just me that thought this. I also wanted to give Jack a tissue to wipe the brown off his nose after his sarcastic i caught all the baddies post.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:55 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:25 pm reywaS, I have no idea what you think of speedchuck apart from one GTH read (good). Please help me out there.

sweet jesus you post a lot, brosephus. You remind me a lot of a certain bronzed kiwi.

I have no reason to suspect speedchuck really....but I have limited experience with almost everyone in this game after spending a few years away from the game. So, my reads of people are not based on history like the rest of you are able to. The only thing that weirds me out about Speedchuckle is how buddy buddy he's been with me...and looking back he's been at it since the start of the game. I'm not sure what to make of that. It could be that he actually has a strong town read of me...or it could mean he's a bad fellar and is latching on to me because he's seen me get lynched in my first two games back from hiatus for shit reasons and wants that sweet sweet civ cred when it happens again in this game. I dunno.

hot damn i am one self centered bastard. smh

Can it be a mix of the two?

well sure if you go strictly as i wrote it...i meant to imply that the first was that you were a townie yourself with a town read of me. Thanks smart ass. lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:28 pm

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:22 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:40 pm This is the year I get a townie award. Maybe not best townie. Maybe not in this game. But I’m going to have a good town year. My last three town games on MU were each better than all my previous town games over the past two years.

This should not be in green. Softly pushing the narrative that you are town is not off topic. People really overuse green tags.

damn...i thought it was just me that thought this. I also wanted to give Jack a tissue to wipe the brown off his nose after his sarcastic i caught all the baddies post.

How am I brown nosing if I’m actually saying Jay is wrong?

one doesnt have to agree with someone to kiss their ass. JJJ is not a dumb ass. Kissing his requires more finesse. (like I'm doing here ) the dad joke then the appeal to ego you go with in the green text smells of ass kissing to me. I don't know everything in the world.

changing my play style because a now confirmed civvie asked me to is scummy? You call it refusing to help the town. I disagree totally. I keep getting lynched because I am playing exactly how I have always played the game. I am just suffering because no one has really played with me before. I get it. I don't play like everyone else. It's fine....eventually I'll stop getting lynched for it. I won't stop playing how I enjoy playing the game because people unfamiliar with me find it as an act of refusing to help the town. I have many wins under my belt as a civvie in my career. I don't see a reason to change. *shrugs*

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:44 pm Not changing my play style because a now confirmed civvie asked me to is scummy? You call it refusing to help the town. I disagree totally. I keep getting lynched because I am playing exactly how I have always played the game. I am just suffering because no one has really played with me before. I get it. I don't play like everyone else. It's fine....eventually I'll stop getting lynched for it. I won't stop playing how I enjoy playing the game because people unfamiliar with me find it as an act of refusing to help the town. I have many wins under my belt as a civvie in my career. I don't see a reason to change. *shrugs*

EBWOP

also....it wasn't backtracking at all. I thought nutella said something that was actually said by Sloonei. All i did was correct my mental error. Would have been a lot easier if I were scummy to just let it go considering nutella did say something about my questioning of JJJ as well, wouldn't it?

i do post reads. I just don't do it in the manner that you want me to. I'm not making excuses.

at the moment Sloonei will be getting my vote. Jackofhearts is still on my radar.

colonialbob
novaselinenever
nutella

leetic
AudreyTheTattleTail
sabie12
speedchuck


Elohcin
JackofHearts2005
Sloonei

hope this helps

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:08 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:07 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:07 pm

Bringing this forward for reference.

Nova
Me
reywas
Audrey

Who's the wolf?

Maybe Rey. Possibly Audrey. Distancing from an 8 year old who isn’t going to get lynched is cheap.

Do you think Rey/Speed is possible? It’s not as cool as Sloonei/Speed.

Audrey doesn’t have enough posts to really have antialignments.

i risk being labeled at best an asshole or at worst a scummy POS by saying this, but....what is the plan for Audrey? Is she getting a pass till endgame because she's a child? Are we just ignoring her for now or what? This is meant to take up any time or derail the thread...just a simple question because Ive been away for many moons and im legit curious how kids are treated around here. thanks. ~~~Joe joe the SuperThor

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:46 pm My availability for this phase is going to be minimal. I apologize.

i am litcherally shocked

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:10 pm I put a vote on reywas

Why?

For reasons previously expressed.

right...and for those that dont remember i will rehash. You assigned a tone to my questions to JJJ that was not there. You said my question "felt" unmotivated" and basically i was doing it for....what reason again? I forget what you said my motivation for that was. You are the one with the feels but zero actual evidence so I'll give you the mic back my dude.

thank you leetic...like i said i didn't ask to put attention on it. I was just legit curious.

sorry speedster..i'd rather vote for sloonei but i am busy as a woodchuck and i like a little more cushion in my split votes in which i am a part.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

oh damn i didnt vote in the poll. My bad I could have sworn that i did. I made my vote post and i guess i got thrown off because i had the results showing but i never actually voted in the poll. Damn i got lucky my vote was needed to keep myself safe.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:34 am I mean, we can spare me and I’m not heavily invested in this game. But we’d be better off not lynching me.

to quote someone that said it about me one time.....

YUCK

"It's whatevs guys. I'm not into this game whatsoever, but please please please don't lynch me coughI'msupesbadforrealslolcough"

force??? right....because I'm just now finding you suspect.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:26 pm

Rey is a hard one to read. His playstyle is silly and unfocused. He is right when he says he doesn't take time to do ISOs. I would bet he has never even clicked the "isolate posts" button for an individual player. He just has fun and goes with the flow. This makes it difficult to either trust him, or see him as bad. So, as he could be bad, I am unsure.

You would lose that bet. I am quite familiar with the iso post link, but i just use it as a refresher or to go back to a specific post i have in mind. I do tend to play more in the moment though...which is way you'll never see me to ISO "reads". I dont forget or ignore early game stuff, but i tend to only use recent stuff in my quotables.

lol at their being a debate about my color coded read list early game.



It was serious as fuck.

there not their

apologies

Sloonei, I gotta give you credit where it's due. You are fighting hard to pull it out for your team.

I know you realize that the crap you are trying to sell is completely ridiculous, but you gotta work with what you have. I get it.

You are suggesting that speedchuck, lunalee and I tried to pull off the most complicated mafia gambit of all time. It's absurd to actually believe what you are peddling right now.

early game mafia chat according to Sloonei:

Me: Hey guys I have an amazing plan.

JoeJoe proceeds to lay out the plan which includes naming both of his team mates in an early game joke post as mafia and then later giving them town reads on non jokey reads. Then JoeJoe thinks its a good idea to then defend them both...to defend speedchuck even after Lunalee got linched and flipped bad...even after its pretty much a done deal that speed is going down.

Speed: Sounds great!

Lunalee: Yeah, you are so damn smart, rey!!


SMH

It's a bold plan...and a stupid plan. It would have been so much easier to just not do that dumb ass plan and fly under the radar, would it not?

You seem like a smart lad, Sloonei, and I know you see how absurd that gambit is. You being willfully ignorant speaks volumes to be honest.

Sloonei bad, y'all.