The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:33 pm sprityo

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:42 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:56 pmI'm kidding.
Hi kidding, I’m sprityo
Eh.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:17 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:31 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:52 am I went to sleep last night with my girl being the leading wagon, now it's Elephant and Hyena. What happened?
[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Eh Part II.

++++

Voted Evenstar.

sprityo can remain a suspect.

Interaction Analysis?

The great part about this is i dont have to go reread the final 10 pages i missed at EOD

Now i just have to read all this

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:19 am that said,
@Quin
@sprityo
I'd super appreciate it if you two would at least post something

im working my way through the thread now, ill be sure to post something in about an hour before i go to sleep

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:25 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:11 pm I haven't even indicated I am suspicious of him this phase and you're acting like I've been non stop accusing him. It's weird. Stfu.
- my bad, it was Radishes and Iaafr who were sussing him and I'm used to their reads being bad lol
Okay well with the way you attack people I'd double check the facts first because it's pretty lame.

Seconding Mac's comment here because that was basically my entire basis for voting Evenstar yesterday.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:12 am Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to invite a bunch of new players into a game on your forum with new fucking system to learn how to find posts and read shit

and then say by the way it's a bastard game

it's a garbage fire

Party pooper

you assume we know how the game what gonna work?

sounds like needless chatter

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:30 am

who gave this old man access to anime gifs?

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:40 am Just a reminder that she's been dead the whole time <3

Don't remind me, she's my favorite

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:33 pm sprityo - idk

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:48 pm why do people think godfather is such a good role I don't get it it's a shit role

story time:

there was a closed setup i played where one of the mafia had a godfather but no one in the entire game had an investigative role

it served to basically confuse the mafia team foremost, and secondly confuse town if and when the godfather flip

basically the godfather=investigative role in play is not a valid argument im willing to see

Cool caught up, it was pretty good read for the first half then lld came in, iaafr got upset and mac started crazy posting, and epi also went and watched soccer or something

Splitting the pool in half gives me:
Dom
MacDougall
Epignosis
112
Master Radishes
Pawn Lelouch
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Evenstar
iaafr
Jackofhearts2005
Lady LambdaDelta
Michelle
novaselinenever
Quin
ColinIsCool

i'll be picking from the bottom half for my vote of course

Now onto Vote analysis-

I want to go over the "godfather is valuable" nonsense later and see who's blowing smoke and who actually believes in it

that's a task for tomorrow however seeing as it's past midnight and my brain is fried from doing Fear Factor (also my hands smell like fish and egg yolk)

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.

I leave you with my ideas on how to look at the votes, and bid you farewell for the night (Read: morning)

This also works with 3-4 color groups if you are more picky than I am

It's something that I think really helps, so feel free to do your own (within the bounds of the rules of course)

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:51 pm i have blown this whole game wide open it is beyond bastard it wasnt even randed

all the syndicate regulars are scum

guys, oh no, they figured it out.

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:12 am 112 town because guest 1

Dom scum because regular 1

Epignosis scum because regular 2

Evenstar town because guest 2

iaafr town because guest 3

Jackofhearts2005 scum because regular 3

Lady LambdaDelta town because guest 4

MacDougall scum because regular 4

Master Radishes town because guest 5

Michelle town because guest 6

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME town because guest 7

novaselinenever scum because regular 5

Pawn Lelouch town because guest 8

Quin scum because regular 6

Rej / ColinIsCool scum because regular 7

sprityo scum because regular 8

thats uhhhhhh 8-8?

4-4-8?

This will be the last time I acknowledge this theory as it is utterly ridiculous and doing nothing more than making a Us van Them mentality that we don’t need. Rather why don’t you go through individually and tell me why each person is scum and then I might consider it. Not a big fan of baseless accusations, in fact it’s a pet peeve of mine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:22 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:13 pm [10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.
I have not studied this yet, but I appreciate it. I want to go over it further, sprityo.

I’m all ears epi, what do you need?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:56 am Heh, I had the 'Syndicates = scum team' theory awhile ago. I didn't voice it because, you know, it's not the case.

I do wonder, though - a lot of low posters are Syndicate regulars I think. Were they just caught off guard by such an active game?

Actually no, we just have a decent sized portion of low posters. Our active player base has been in decline recently for whatever reason

But yeah iaafr spouting off like 30 posts of what I deem as “a waste of my time” doesn’t look good. The ENTIRE BASIS IS THAT WE CONDONE BASTARDRY which is first off rude to JJJ and a Sloonei, secondly it’s beyond ridiculous.

I’m off back to work. I’m sure everyone will be awake and ready to play in the next 5 hours

On a side note, i’d be willing to swap 112 and Evenstar on my half and half pools

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:01 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:54 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:22 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:13 pm [10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.
I have not studied this yet, but I appreciate it. I want to go over it further, sprityo.
I’m all ears epi, what do you need?
explain your reads of the people on the 112 wagon pls

I had evenstar pegged as scum sided due to her aggressive accusations which looked really bad to me.

Epi consistently looks Town in his unphased and cool epi style. I hope he’s able to stick around as long as possible

Nova is nova. He’s absent, he’s brazen, and doesn’t appeal to me. Mafia lean.

Jack is a slippery bastard who constantly oscillates between joking and playing so I can never give him a solid town lean opinion early. Come mid game it’s usually pretty easy to tell his alignment though.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:25 pm I've got half an hour before I head off to the university for that midterm, so anybody who wants to talk to me before I vanish for like four hours should do so now
What a coincidence. I am a professor.

Spoiler: show

LOL

You got a name for me to add on FEH?
I quit the grind in favor of different grind.
Worth it for the character collection tbh. Way better grind than FGO too

The FGO grind ain’t bad, 200+ logins in and I haven’t paid s penny, and they’re giving it 70 free prisms this week for the anime event

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:07 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:12 pm Michelle, what's your opinion regarding the value of a godfather? If you're working on the theory that Dragomir was bussed, does that mean 112 is scum? I don't get your world right now and I want to examine it more closely.
it very much depends on setup, but a role madness with forbidden claims should have a powetful godfather with maybe hidden mechanics.

112s AI doesn't matter and i don't want to speculate about a read i don't have yet
... does the Syndicate do roles that only partially flip on death often? Especially in an environment where the mechanics are already depriving Town of information?

Yeah, I don't buy that this is a real thought. Not being willing to comment on 112 when a page ago you were annoyed at me for "not having a settled read of you" - something that wasn't even true, by the way, I think you're scum - is also a bad look.

Depends

It’s more common in Open Setups where the roles are already known but they have secrets

Usually these secrets are revealed upon death

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:45 pm sprityo, since I see you lurking there. Michelle did raise a decent point earlier: why do you read her as scum but not Dom?

I’m not lurking I just got online

Dom is someone I fear more than mac. That and he’s mac’s double with the difference being mac will goof off sometimes

Dom is a player who will give the truth, the rude truth, and overall someone who hasn’t said anything I believe to be BS since he started making posts.

Michelle I can’t think of anything she’s said that’s been memorable, nothing to stick in my mind per day. Maybe I’m not looking, maybe it’s because it wasn’t anything important

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:48 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:46 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:07 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:12 pm Michelle, what's your opinion regarding the value of a godfather? If you're working on the theory that Dragomir was bussed, does that mean 112 is scum? I don't get your world right now and I want to examine it more closely.
it very much depends on setup, but a role madness with forbidden claims should have a powetful godfather with maybe hidden mechanics.

112s AI doesn't matter and i don't want to speculate about a read i don't have yet
... does the Syndicate do roles that only partially flip on death often? Especially in an environment where the mechanics are already depriving Town of information?

Yeah, I don't buy that this is a real thought. Not being willing to comment on 112 when a page ago you were annoyed at me for "not having a settled read of you" - something that wasn't even true, by the way, I think you're scum - is also a bad look.
Depends

It’s more common in Open Setups where the roles are already known but they have secrets

Usually these secrets are revealed upon death
Do you think it's likely in this setup?

That secrets are revealed on death? Yes I do. There are minimal closed setups on this site and I think I’m the only host to have secrets that are not revealed upon death.

That’s just my experience, with new crazy setups you can never just assume things. There isn’t a status quo.

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay

At least I have a process and not a half assed theory

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:43 pm Just did a quick ISO of Colin and Sprit.

Colin's thoughts come without agenda, IMO. He sounds like a townie trying to fit into a game that has left him behind. I could be wrong on this, but so far I don't mind him.

Sprit is the opposite. I didn't like that one post in D1, and continue to find thoughts of his I just ...don't like. I'll give examples later if I have a few moments strung together tonight. (I'm in and out, as I said.)

Do you not like my thoughts because you don’t agree with them or do you not like my thoughts because you think I have some kind of hidden agenda?

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:47 pm and the fact that he never gave any reasons without prompting and needed me of all people to ask for reasons

maybe that's not actually wolfy? still tho i am bloodthirsty

Oh alright I guess I’ll just piss off then

Apparently no one wants me to post anything when I’m trying to post something

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay
At least I have a process and not a half assed theory
Hey, Sprityo. Have your reads changed since you put away your colors?

Nope, my last thing about my half and half remains the same

WELL I GUESS ILL TAKE THE PISS AGAIN

SO MUCH FOR TRYING MY BEST HUH JACK? BECAUSE APPARENTLY THAT ISNT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET PAST EVERYONES FUCKIGN EGO

I’m voting between “This game is bastard+anime gifs”, “this game is bastard syndicate is scum”, and my fucking self

Good night

Fuck off

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