Inception [Inception Phase 4]

[iaafr]

112 is so towny sometimes though its crazy, will never betray

[iaafr]

this is where i should stop posting

galaxy brain reads pls

[Master Radishes]

Heh, I had the 'Syndicates = scum team' theory awhile ago. I didn't voice it because, you know, it's not the case.


I do wonder, though - a lot of low posters are Syndicate regulars I think. Were they just caught off guard by such an active game?

[Master Radishes]

Today was a circus. I would not have been surprised to have looked out into the hall and spied a juggling bear on a unicycle. I saw plenty else.

Did someone say you were a teacher? Me too. I empathise.

What's your subject?

Trained for History & English, but these days teaching History, Geography, Religious Education.

Inner city secondary school in London, so plenty of juggling bears in the halls and such.

[Pawn Lelouch]

Heh, I had the 'Syndicates = scum team' theory awhile ago. I didn't voice it because, you know, it's not the case.


I do wonder, though - a lot of low posters are Syndicate regulars I think. Were they just caught off guard by such an active game?

It really hasn't been that active of a game though. Not eith how large the initial game started as.

[iaafr]

maybe not all the syndicates are scum but all the scum are syndicates

top non syndicate scum reads?

i think most of us have syndicate in our bottom 3 so it shouldnt be illegal to answer this...?

[iaafr]

i personally have no non syndicate scum reads anymore

[Master Radishes]

Heh, I had the 'Syndicates = scum team' theory awhile ago. I didn't voice it because, you know, it's not the case.


I do wonder, though - a lot of low posters are Syndicate regulars I think. Were they just caught off guard by such an active game?

It really hasn't been that active of a game though. Not eith how large the initial game started as.

That's what I meant. We had, what, 3000+ posts in about three days? Definitely hard to keep up if you fall behind.

This bit has been manageable, which is maybe why we've seen a few pop in.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Eh fuck it I guess I’ll stick with it then

Let’s embrace the big brain

[Pawn Lelouch]

Eh fuck it I guess I’ll stick with it then

Let’s embrace the big brain

Welcome to the club. I just love everything about this honestly.

[iaafr]

god i wanna roll scum actually

my metas insane i can just make up anything

[Pawn Lelouch]

god i wanna roll scum actually

my metas insane i can just make up anything

Let's be real. Half the reason we're all following this is entertainment value, the other half is that most of us all have multiple syndicate scum reads already so there is no issue with following along for now.

And I wish you hadn't died before you could play in color wheel. Would have been entertaining.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That’s not the big brain read I’m on board with but ok lol

[Pawn Lelouch]

That’s not the big brain read I’m on board with but ok lol

Wait which other big brain? The others don't really qualify as big brain in terms of ease.

[Master Radishes]

Let's be real. Half the reason we're all following this is entertainment value, the other half is that most of us all have multiple syndicate scum reads already so there is no issue with following along for now.

Yeah, this. I'm not actually going to focus only on Syndicates, but they're mostly in my PoE still, so...

[iaafr]

and the third half of the reason is down with prescriptivist scum

[Michelle]

@Michelle

612 and 615 should give you an idea of why I suspect Radishes.

This is not a real reason, this is "look at these posts I think they're bad." Point at actual specific things you thought were "dishonest."

612 is a Radish posts where he quotes a post of mine where I point out a specific thing that I think it dishonest it also provides context for MY post, 615, where I point out a specific thing that I think is dishonest.

Michelle: Tyt answering my question.
Jack: I already did right here.

i don't consider that an answer. You are avoiding my question. I don't really want to read Radishes with my question for you. I want to read you and see how you formed your oppinion. Because it's your alignament i need to solve while talking to you.
The fact you are so unaware about my reasons and you're beating around the bush is not good.

[Michelle]

And good morning

started with the notification, i have a lot to read

[iaafr]

That’s not the big brain read I’m on board with but ok lol

Wait which other big brain? The others don't really qualify as big brain in terms of ease.

i think he thinks your scum

[Michelle]

iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?

hey

what are your reads

remember to abide by this gameday's rules

if youre listing scumreads you need to list 3+ without showing order between them

From the people in this thread
Evenstar may be scum because i suspected her previous day and she voted last (i think) for the counter wagon, no matter 112s AI she wanted to save her godfather if she is mafia
Nova is scummy and claimed scum. No need to say many words
LLD so complainy is nagl, i skimmed her Iso and saw her role playing as hydra of 4 (i doubt she is a real hydra)

so here i'm at. Ah and Rej's slot may be scum, but i have just 60% in that direction

Michelle uses "the godfather is valuable" to scumread me

do I caught you for wrong reasons?

[iaafr]

[mention]michelle[/mention] are you 3p

[Michelle]

if we think at gidfather's role as not being so important like Iaafr says then he was maybe bussed, and so we have to tinfoil later in the game his wagon. I would go for agenda-y players before this.

Based on Drago voting Mac i don't know if we can clear him and put him as lock town.

Maybe the godfather has a back up as green peek so Drago played bad on purpose.

I would take more notes too if i knew we cannot see the day 1 anymore, my notes are all until post 900 and after i gave up from lack of time.

I don't know if this is town openmindedness or TMI, but it's worth weighing into a Michelle read.

So your oppinion is Dragomir wasn't bussed and his wagon is pure?

and you on counter wagon are looking good? How should i take your vote after i considered you scum at Eod 1?

Your words let room for anything, and i want from you a ferm read on me not double meaning sentences.

[Michelle]

@michelle are you 3p

nah.

[Pawn Lelouch]

That’s not the big brain read I’m on board with but ok lol

Wait which other big brain? The others don't really qualify as big brain in terms of ease.

i think he thinks your scum

Off the computer read? Lol

If anything I'm wordier as scum. I enjoy actively leading people off a cliff with plausible but false cases.

Not posting as much and making generally shorter posts would cut into my fun, so I wouldn't do it if I didn't have a choice. Plus I'm in college, I could literally say exams as a ready made excuse and never have to bullshit anger + lies about the postal service.

So he can scum read me, sure. That's only an actual galaxy brain if for that reason though.

[Michelle]

@michelle are you 3p

why do you have this idea?

[iaafr]

@michelle are you 3p

why do you have this idea?

ummmm a theory that all the syndicate players in this game are scum and youre 3p because you played here before the other muers so youre like a half syndicate player

[Michelle]

@michelle are you 3p

why do you have this idea?

ummmm a theory that all the syndicate players in this game are scum and youre 3p because you played here before the other muers so youre like a half syndicate player

your idea is similar with Sprityo's chart reads based on who's off Drago's wagon.
Coincidences will not solve the game.

Let's think as host. Would you do this? To give scum role only to your homies and let all guests as townies? And the ones with connections with the site 3rd part roles?

Ftr idk if Nova counts as Syndicate player, also not Rej or Dragomir from what i know, I wish Mac to confirm if i am right.

[sprityo]

i have blown this whole game wide open it is beyond bastard it wasnt even randed

all the syndicate regulars are scum

guys, oh no, they figured it out.

[sprityo]

112 town because guest 1

Dom scum because regular 1

Epignosis scum because regular 2

Evenstar town because guest 2

iaafr town because guest 3

Jackofhearts2005 scum because regular 3

Lady LambdaDelta town because guest 4

MacDougall scum because regular 4

Master Radishes town because guest 5

Michelle town because guest 6

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME town because guest 7

novaselinenever scum because regular 5

Pawn Lelouch town because guest 8

Quin scum because regular 6

Rej / ColinIsCool scum because regular 7

sprityo scum because regular 8

thats uhhhhhh 8-8?

4-4-8?

This will be the last time I acknowledge this theory as it is utterly ridiculous and doing nothing more than making a Us van Them mentality that we don’t need. Rather why don’t you go through individually and tell me why each person is scum and then I might consider it. Not a big fan of baseless accusations, in fact it’s a pet peeve of mine

[sprityo]

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.

I have not studied this yet, but I appreciate it. I want to go over it further, sprityo.

I’m all ears epi, what do you need?

[sprityo]

Heh, I had the 'Syndicates = scum team' theory awhile ago. I didn't voice it because, you know, it's not the case.


I do wonder, though - a lot of low posters are Syndicate regulars I think. Were they just caught off guard by such an active game?

Actually no, we just have a decent sized portion of low posters. Our active player base has been in decline recently for whatever reason

[sprityo]

But yeah iaafr spouting off like 30 posts of what I deem as “a waste of my time” doesn’t look good. The ENTIRE BASIS IS THAT WE CONDONE BASTARDRY which is first off rude to JJJ and a Sloonei, secondly it’s beyond ridiculous.

I’m off back to work. I’m sure everyone will be awake and ready to play in the next 5 hours

[iaafr]

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.

I have not studied this yet, but I appreciate it. I want to go over it further, sprityo.

I’m all ears epi, what do you need?

explain your reads of the people on the 112 wagon pls

[sprityo]

On a side note, i’d be willing to swap 112 and Evenstar on my half and half pools

[sprityo]

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.

I have not studied this yet, but I appreciate it. I want to go over it further, sprityo.

I’m all ears epi, what do you need?

explain your reads of the people on the 112 wagon pls

I had evenstar pegged as scum sided due to her aggressive accusations which looked really bad to me.

Epi consistently looks Town in his unphased and cool epi style. I hope he’s able to stick around as long as possible

Nova is nova. He’s absent, he’s brazen, and doesn’t appeal to me. Mafia lean.

Jack is a slippery bastard who constantly oscillates between joking and playing so I can never give him a solid town lean opinion early. Come mid game it’s usually pretty easy to tell his alignment though.

[iaafr]

why are creature tsp elephant all grey

[iaafr]

oh i guess you just didnt color outside of our group at all

i was curious on the reads outside the group too

[iaafr]

why do people like to say x is x so often

it always reads scummy to me

im struggling to think of a time a town player said it

[iaafr]

funny thing is i can vibe with like the majority of your colors except me and evenstar

[iaafr]

also im pretty sure i considered evenstar spewed town by drago

and i think spiny creature's strongest townread was evenstar and i kind of want to trust that too

[Michelle]

@michelle are you 3p

why do you have this idea?

ummmm a theory that all the syndicate players in this game are scum and youre 3p because you played here before the other muers so youre like a half syndicate player

your idea is similar with Sprityo's chart reads based on who's off Drago's wagon.
Coincidences will not solve the game.

Let's think as host. Would you do this? To give scum role only to your homies and let all guests as townies? And the ones with connections with the site 3rd part roles?

Ftr idk if Nova counts as Syndicate player, also not Rej or Dragomir from what i know, I wish Mac to confirm if i am right.

@sprityo am i right with the last sentence?

[Michelle]

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.

i voted Hyena with Dom. Why is Dom green and me red?

[Michelle]

funny thing is i can vibe with like the majority of your colors except me and evenstar

you said i am villager and now you vibe with his reads including me red. How's that?

[Michelle]

also im pretty sure i considered evenstar spewed town by drago

and i think spiny creature's strongest townread was evenstar and i kind of want to trust that too

did you previoulsy play with Spiny creature?

[Jackofhearts2005]

IIoA = information instead of analysis, in reference to the belief that scum players tend to rehash the obvious and simply describe situations without having inserting significant amounts of independent thought more than town players, who naturally tend to have such independent thought, and don't need to force content by rehashing the obvious

Well then I don't see how she arrived at that at all.

Cause you made her skim your posts.

[MacDougall]

I've had a shit day. I'm going to sleep. Goodnight.

[ColinIsCool]

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

And if I just toss in my strong reads from D1 in two more colors...

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

... yeah, I like these reads.

Pardon me but what the fuck does this mean

[ColinIsCool]

112 town because guest 1

Dom scum because regular 1

Epignosis scum because regular 2

Evenstar town because guest 2

iaafr town because guest 3

Jackofhearts2005 scum because regular 3

Lady LambdaDelta town because guest 4

MacDougall scum because regular 4

Master Radishes town because guest 5

Michelle town because guest 6

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME town because guest 7

novaselinenever scum because regular 5

Pawn Lelouch town because guest 8

Quin scum because regular 6

Rej / ColinIsCool scum because regular 7

sprityo scum because regular 8

thats uhhhhhh 8-8?

4-4-8?

Pardon me again but what the fuck does this mean even more

[Evenstar]

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

And if I just toss in my strong reads from D1 in two more colors...

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

... yeah, I like these reads.

Pardon me but what the fuck does this mean

same kind of two-color readslist Sprityo did, just with pink/dark blue for scum/town reads from Day 1
the wagon formation here looks good to me

[Evenstar]

investigatives can't claim in this setup!!!!! the biggest potential payoff of a godfather is a single slot hard defending for no apparent reason!!!

Syndicate regulars are very good about using their investigative roles to get mafia lynched even with no claiming. It's ingrained in our systems.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] Confirm or deny?