The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:19 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:18 pm HO HO HO MERRY - *coughs in covid* Sorry.
Ho ho ho, merry christmas. I come bearing a gift! Perhaps one of the best of all...

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Unfortunately for our boy Leetic, it seems his hostility has come from an evil place... It all makes sense now... That he hath visited MacDougall... and with my all-seeing-eye... did I see him do it...
Is that a claim?

Yes I thought that was obvious

HO HO HO MERRY - *coughs in covid* Sorry.
Ho ho ho, merry christmas. I come bearing a gift! Perhaps one of the best of all...

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Unfortunately for our boy Leetic, it seems his hostility has come from an evil place... It all makes sense now... That he hath visited MacDougall... and with my all-seeing-eye... did I see him do it...

if you're town, it makes infinitely more sense to question who would be tmi'ing you town with your play this game and yet you do not do this

yeah, I'm the only guy who isn't townreading rondo. sure

I'm not keeping you in poe, you're doing that to yourself

lol-worthy post rondo

I won't be here for end of day either, move if you really want, but consider my vote planted

I also don't really have the mental capacity to be playing riddles trying to figure out his reads if he goes back to doing it tomorrow, I don't feel well and its aggravating to have a dead thread only to get revived by behavior I'm not interested in rewarding

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:03 am @Porscha weren't you scumreading Rondo?

I wasn't townreading him was really where I was, it's why I was half begging anyone to explain their tr on him, but now he's being really combative in a shitty bad faith bad attitude way that's objectively anti town and I'm over it

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:58 pm I believe its more likely he would forget this as a result of being mafia and it not being a real read but more of a temporary opportunistic vote.
so porscha/scotty unaligned, nice

huh? what was the context of this?

day 1 I had the initial idea that the ability used on him would likely be a wolf ability but I hadn't said it in thread, so when he brought it up day 2, I found it very agreeable. in hindsight though, after abbi claiming it so *so* openly, it strengthened my read on her and it weakened the argument I could have made for leetic earlier. but he has this sort of ... high energy to his posts that comes off as towny entitlement to me. I haven't seen leetic as a wolf before so I could be getting finagled here, but I'd be lying if I haven't seen towns push mac like this before. I did also consider that why would wolf leetic do all this in thread and not just night kill you instead if the wolves really want you gone, however this stank-slank-gamestate might be the only possible world where he could successfully try to push you and get it for free. i'm still just sort of clinging to my initial town feelings towards him, but I'm open to the possibility he is power

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:46 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:58 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:57 pm Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday
You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.
How could it be demotivating?
it's only motivating in that way where it motivates my eyes to glaze over your posts
Wouldn't that be as desired?

I'll drop it if we set up a tie between consensus poe

how do you mean

also why do you keep insisting on doing ties?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:58 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:57 pm Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday
You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.
How could it be demotivating?

it's only motivating in that way where it motivates my eyes to glaze over your posts

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:01 pm [VOTE: Robyn] aubergine

nod

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:25 pm Porscha what is your read on me?

like 80% depressed town is my opinion

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:58 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:57 pm Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday
You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

how please, how

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:58 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:57 pm Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday
You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.
I thought Rondo was doing just fine today, participation-wise. His opinions are coming through his schtick just fine over here.

really? I have seen one post that made me go "wow that one might almost be ai"

that being said, I do at least understand leetic's concerns with mac in a way that seems believable (also probably in part that I have other reasons to tr leetic lol)

also re: mac

I think mac is more likely town and my explanation besides being good at reading mac is similar to tutuu's - town mac has this thing where you can feel his genuinely frustrated tone come through in a way that I find is exponentially harder for him to emulate when he is wolfing

I was skeptical at first too cuz he just came off a strong game as a wolf and he had some of that ~tone~ that I associate with him trying to assert an air of confidence to appear towny, but as time went on and he got more pushback and the sig vote lol... idk I think it's just more likely him as town

my boy got me sick and I feel like trash so idk how much playing i'm gonna get around to actually doing
which happens to work out with how dead it's been in here tbf

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:28 pm scotty town
Long Con town
DM town

some other names

@Serhal do you like mech?

@tutuu what's your favorite flavour of jam?

@RondoDimBuckle I accidentally left scumchat can you let me back in? Mac is method acting our distancing and won't do it

i'm willing to oblige you on your first 2 reads but still maintaining a dm town read, especially unprompted, is baffling to me

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:57 pm i'm also confused on the flips since sig's ended up being revealed but** falcon's wasnt? right?

ebwop

i'm also confused on the flips since sig's ended up being revealed by falcon's wasnt? right?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:53 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:48 pm I think Abbi did it, and I think it has a fine chance of being a Town ability, knowing these Hosts.
Honestly, if Abby really did it then she deserves to die for using such an anti-town ability. Could she not idle? If what she's saying is true, the action isn't forced to go through

for integrity's sake, I just want to confirm that if you had received such an ability as town, you would have simply never used it?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:48 pm I think Abbi did it, and I think it has a fine chance of being a Town ability, knowing these Hosts.

explain the host thing?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:00 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:51 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:21 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:03 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:40 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
For probably obvious reasons if you followed Ted Lasso, I would never clear someone for being bamboozified.
In this case, I think i town read you with the takes you were making. I think
Who would willingly put themselves through such crap though?
Did…did you read Ted Lasso at all?

I insanified myself for shits and as soon as I started doing it I immediately regretted it due to the painstaking editing I had to do in each post. And I didn’t just want to post a few times and dip. I had to be believable.

In any case, you were most definitely stuck singing as per the host post, so an ability was most definitely used on you.

And I jived with you on reads. So
Believe me, I am not that kind of player. I got silenced by scum in one game and they used that as an opportunity to get me mislynched. I'm a vocal player and would never put myself through that shit willingly, it is beyond obnoxious and you'll only know it if you've been through it. Wolves obviously did it to shut me up. Perhaps they were worried about one of my reads?
what were your n0 reads
Mac, tutuu, Porscha town, DM, Abby, RDB wolf

ok dm abbi rondo...
dm has hardly existed, guess she might not need to if not getting pushed type of player? easy to slank if nobody cares and the 1 person who did couldn't say anything about it
abbi, would wolf abbi just straight up admit she did it? part of me wants to say yes because in these instances she also always says yes but lol... could just not claim it - though maybe that makes her look wolfier to you now if she doesnt just say it was her action? but if she cared that much specifically about you, she could have nk'd you lol... unless this was w/w violence to appear towny and she doesnt have to fear claiming the ability use on you vis a vis being teammates (I highly doubt there is a world where its town abbi and wolf leetic here, cuz why would town abbi silence someone she thinks is wolfy and then also not provide that explanation when admitting the role use later?)
rondo... lol... I dont want to attempt to mentally extrapolate on what he would do in that moment - my gut says he wouldn't care enough to bother silencing you regardless of who is with

so my conclusion is that I dont have a conclusion

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:18 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:51 pm Anyway, I do think the way robyn has approached my slot was towny. Wolves likely targeted me with the post restriction to shut me up, and robyn was the only one who seemingly tried to put effort into deciphering what I was saying and allowing me to participate. They weren't great at it, but props for trying!
Robyn trying to decipher what you're saying w/ your posts actually seems like they are aware of what you were going thru, and I don't find that towny

What are your reads?

it was obvious what leetic was dealing with lol c'mon

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:38 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:59 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:56 am Bored
Is that really all you're gonna post here? I'd expect at least some energy from you. It doesn't help that you're someone who'd be more likely to slap me with a post restriction.
Oh yeah that was me

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 6:31 am I expected more anger

lol like actually?

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:51 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:21 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:03 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:40 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:49 pm So anyway, about that post restriction. It was not a part of my role, and it was something that was given to me at the start of D1. It's not like it was something like "if you keep this up you get a cool power you can use", I had to keep it up or I would lose my vote. Given that, it's almost certainly a wolf power and I should be basically lock town for having been targeted by this. (As an aside, this was one of the things that weirded me out about RDB — they said nobody should read anything alignment indicative about my posting, when the very fact that I was targeted by said power should be alignment indicative.) Now it's time to determine who used this power, and it's probably someone who has experience with me being a vocal town leader and wanted to shut me up before that could happen (or maybe it's Abby who did it just to piss me off).

So this was either a one-use power of the wolves, something they can do again, or they can give townies other post restrictions. Regardless, it might be wise to come up with a cypher so that if someone gets targeted by this again they can communicate more effectively. I tried my best, but there were obvious limits.
For probably obvious reasons if you followed Ted Lasso, I would never clear someone for being bamboozified.
In this case, I think i town read you with the takes you were making. I think
Who would willingly put themselves through such crap though?
Did…did you read Ted Lasso at all?

I insanified myself for shits and as soon as I started doing it I immediately regretted it due to the painstaking editing I had to do in each post. And I didn’t just want to post a few times and dip. I had to be believable.

In any case, you were most definitely stuck singing as per the host post, so an ability was most definitely used on you.

And I jived with you on reads. So
Believe me, I am not that kind of player. I got silenced by scum in one game and they used that as an opportunity to get me mislynched. I'm a vocal player and would never put myself through that shit willingly, it is beyond obnoxious and you'll only know it if you've been through it. Wolves obviously did it to shut me up. Perhaps they were worried about one of my reads?

what were your n0 reads

@DarlingMonroe come play

i'm withering away waiting for dm to come back and play the game

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:51 am Now that enough time has passed and everyone has posted. I can start to claim some wild things.

I am basically spewed town at this point. I am IC and town should just do whatever I say.

I want neon/sig/porscha wagons. Pick 2 and get them going.

Now when neon catches up I can recind if she towns up and say was feeling her out with a fake push. And my distance from mac and porscha increases

IC? how do you figure? lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:43 am That whole exchange is only about Rondo's post.

then I massively misunderstood you from the get go of that

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:06 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:41 pm

You already claimed I "howled" and now you can't tell me why you said it?
yeah, you generally just sound performative to me, but it was also more of a comment on the general threadstate
Sounds fake.

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine
lmao I see what you did there
Yes, I voted you, and you saw it.
no, with the whole "people wanting you dead thing"

it's like an over reaction hidden behind a joke

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:45 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:34 pm Ok so still likely killing long con tonight. Possibly Porsche
WHA
You get used to it.
get used to what?
People wanting you dead.

This is what i was responding to. No mention of rondo

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:53 am @Porscha I would love for this ridiculous argument to be over, but I honestly can't until you understand.

YOU are the one who accused ME of overreacting. I didn't bring up the idea.

You literally said that I overreacted to Rondo's post. Please read the spoilered response I gave to falcon, and then read it again even more slowly, because I can't handle this.

Okay i read the spoiler. Please do me 1 last request. Simply respond to this post with the post where i said you over reacted to rondo as the initial discussion event

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:35 pm Let's say the relatively consensus poe here is something like pyxxy/abigail/scotty. I personally don't have Scotty as mafia but let's say we arrive at a position where he's the third most sussed slot for arguments sake (which he might be).

If we as a town are content to say it's unlikely that there are 0 mafia in this group, which I am due to how many townreads I have outside of it.

We limit the amount of dialogue speculating outside of it and focus our energy on figuring out who to chop from within it, we serve a few purposes.

1. The town miselim is given enough opportunity to project themselves to avoid a shrug chop.
2. The Mafia are forced to pick a side in a way that can result in them bussing, or outing themselves choosing not to bus.
3. The town outside of it reveal themselves via solid teamwork and progressing the game state along a town agenda.
4. The Mafia get boxed out.
5. It prevents a lot of town on town posturing/ego warfare.

I try to force this paradigm in every town game I play and it's why my town winrate over the past couple of years is not just high but so so many of the wins are rapid.

In the games in which I am proven to have 0 wolves in the POE I end up operating within, mafia usually make the mistake of keeping me alive and I'm capable of being able to reevaluate eventually once it's discovered that the d1 poe was pure.

The caveat is the town wintate and the "rapidness" directly correlates with how hard the town try as a group and how committed they are to simply being townie. The more bad townplay. Low efforting. Tinfoiling. Open wolfing as town, that town exhibit, the longer the wolves survive and closer to parity they end up.

So it's important for poe clamped town to keep their neck above the water and keep trying to be town. It's also important that the day 1 poe gets resolved quickly so town PR play is very important ie. vigs need to shoot d1 cws and investigatives need to get green checks on possible miselims etc.

When towns come together in this manner town generally just absolutely steamrolls almost any mafia team except pure "we lost the game at rand" level mafia teams.

Look at you go

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:37 am
Spoiler: show
Found Scotty irl and we talked about the game. He outed his role as a 3p to me and we're on side to sweep.

Spoiler: show
for anyone who thinks this is real this is just scottys cousin

And here i really thought scotty was just an exceptional canine specimen capable of keyboard use

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:24 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:57 pm Does anyone else see what LCs been saying about porscha?

Feels like a mountain of a molehill, but perhaps I'm missing something
There's some confusion, and some frustration involved. My initial vote... Porscha said everyone except DM and maybe Mac, had "howled". I asked Porscha how I had howled, and I considered the answer "you generally just sound performative to me, but it was also more of a comment on the general threadstate" to be handwavy and weak, and felt wolfy.

As for "what I've been saying", here's my perspective on what I'm dealing with:

Spoiler: show
There are two points that I'm frustrated with.

The first is this progression:

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:56 pmif I dont wifom rondo back then that's no fun lol, I'm surprised you took it as a legitimate answer to his illegitimate comment

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:13 pmDon't be surprised, because I didn't, and it's weird that you'd frame the conversation that way. You said I overreacted to Rondo's post, when your reaction was WHA and mine was considerably less "over" and quite less reactionary. This is the reason these answers are being discussed, you are the first one to bring up the idea of either of us taking Rondo seriously. What's going on here?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:19 pmI didn't take rondo's post seriously, I didn't respond seriously, it's weird that you took his and my posts seriously (guess we can't all have the same sense of humor but rondo is clearly just shit posting)
...so that frustrates me, because Porscha obviously didn't read my post. It diminishes my likelihood of putting effort into further interaction.

The other thing is this:

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:47 pm

lmao I see what you did there
Yes, I voted you, and you saw it.
no, with the whole "people wanting you dead thing"

it's like an over reaction hidden behind a joke
Porscha corrects me when I thought the "I see what you did there" was about my vote, and tells me that they were talking about the "people wanting you dead" thing, which is about the reactions to Rondo's post involving us. So that's why my posts following have that perspective.

Then Porscha posts this:

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:19 pmmy accusation that you over reacted was that you over reacted *to me* and *my read* ... had nothing to do with rondo
So yeah... frustrating.
I hope this helps you understand.

Hmmmmmm

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine
Read long cons iso and come tell me he cares about anyone other than me, to which he is still pushing my read as "fake" when it clearly isnt, and even after he kept pushing me on the rondo remark (when it was never about the rondo remark), he doesnt make a case about me. Just casually asks pointless questions every 6 hours until he sees someone ask a question about me, then he throws his weight into trying to make me look bad off of his own made up reason ... almost all of his content is based around me... if I wasnt trying to give him the benefit of the doubt repeatedly, I'd say he is just hyperfocusing on me cuz he is having a hard time engaging with the thread and found some weak argument to latch on to
1. Again: YOU said it was about the Rondo remark. YOU corrected me when I responded to you, and TOLD me it's about the Rondo remark.

2. This is absolutely typical of my Day 1 play, you described it almost perfectly. I don't have a hard time engaging, I just tend to listen more than talk, regarding Day 1 conversation. Most of the suspicions and accusations don't resonate with me this early.

1) No. You said "porscha you over reacted" to which i said no i didnt, because i assumed you meant over reacted to our conversation. *then* you said it was about rondo, to which i said, i didnt over react to rondo and i dont know why youd think i was talking about rondo there. And then i followed it up again and made it very clear i was always operating under the assumption you had meant *our* conversation, not over reaction to rondo, and thats what i was referring to. So unless i missed you specifically accusing me of over reacting to rondo earlier, im almost certain you vaguely accused me of general "over reaction" and i dont know why you think I would assume you meant in regards to rondo when we were already going back and forth with each other. And yet after clarifying this issue, youre still harping on about it, which is why:

2) it is getting harder for me to believe this has been a good faith misunderstanding that town long con just so happens to have so few other thoughts about the game, only focusing on me, and still trying to weaponize a misunderstanding to shade me. Im really trying to let you cook cuz i have witnessed and been privy to the "god i feel like long con is so scummy" early issue and seen you town up later. So if that world is possible this game, then please let me try and find it, this has been monopolizing for both of us (more for you than me)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:15 pm And what would i have been defending ?
is this something of a trick question?

wolf teammates
Its not a trick question, i was making sure thats what you were implying... obviously lol

Sorry scotty i didnt mean to defend you so obviously with my tmi while actually defending our wimless partner abbi. Totally my bad
humiliate me more it makes me tingle

No me

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:57 pm Does anyone else see what LCs been saying about porscha?

Feels like a mountain of a molehill, but perhaps I'm missing something
There's some confusion, and some frustration involved. My initial vote... Porscha said everyone except DM and maybe Mac, had "howled". I asked Porscha how I had howled, and I considered the answer "you generally just sound performative to me, but it was also more of a comment on the general threadstate" to be handwavy and weak, and felt wolfy.

As for "what I've been saying", here's my perspective on what I'm dealing with:

Spoiler: show
There are two points that I'm frustrated with.

The first is this progression:

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:56 pmif I dont wifom rondo back then that's no fun lol, I'm surprised you took it as a legitimate answer to his illegitimate comment

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:13 pmDon't be surprised, because I didn't, and it's weird that you'd frame the conversation that way. You said I overreacted to Rondo's post, when your reaction was WHA and mine was considerably less "over" and quite less reactionary. This is the reason these answers are being discussed, you are the first one to bring up the idea of either of us taking Rondo seriously. What's going on here?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:19 pmI didn't take rondo's post seriously, I didn't respond seriously, it's weird that you took his and my posts seriously (guess we can't all have the same sense of humor but rondo is clearly just shit posting)
...so that frustrates me, because Porscha obviously didn't read my post. It diminishes my likelihood of putting effort into further interaction.

The other thing is this:

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:45 pm

yeah, you generally just sound performative to me, but it was also more of a comment on the general threadstate
Sounds fake.

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine
lmao I see what you did there
Yes, I voted you, and you saw it.
no, with the whole "people wanting you dead thing"

it's like an over reaction hidden behind a joke
Porscha corrects me when I thought the "I see what you did there" was about my vote, and tells me that they were talking about the "people wanting you dead" thing, which is about the reactions to Rondo's post involving us. So that's why my posts following have that perspective.

Then Porscha posts this:

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:19 pmmy accusation that you over reacted was that you over reacted *to me* and *my read* ... had nothing to do with rondo
So yeah... frustrating.
I hope this helps you understand.

Hmmmmmm

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

Read long cons iso and come tell me he cares about anyone other than me, to which he is still pushing my read as "fake" when it clearly isnt, and even after he kept pushing me on the rondo remark (when it was never about the rondo remark), he doesnt make a case about me. Just casually asks pointless questions every 6 hours until he sees someone ask a question about me, then he throws his weight into trying to make me look bad off of his own made up reason ... almost all of his content is based around me... if I wasnt trying to give him the benefit of the doubt repeatedly, I'd say he is just hyperfocusing on me cuz he is having a hard time engaging with the thread and found some weak argument to latch on to

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:15 pm I feel like I've been barely even trying and I'm top poster. That's kind of weird to me.

Well "obv town" rondo said dadv so maybe trust your read there since its so strong

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:15 pm And what would i have been defending ?
is this something of a trick question?

wolf teammates

Its not a trick question, i was making sure thats what you were implying... obviously lol

Sorry scotty i didnt mean to defend you so obviously with my tmi while actually defending our wimless partner abbi. Totally my bad

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:54 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:10 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:38 pm

how? he's just been posting wifom for 2 days, how do you see it as a townclaim, especially for rondo
Porscha here already asking the tough questions

I forgot to get a wreath. What kind of Christmas is it without a wreath?
@Porscha thanks for baiting a wolf into voting me unintentionally but there are more efficient isn't ways to catch them lol.
um, I dont know how I've been strung into this lol, it was really rondo who baited scotty's vote onto you, no?
I haven’t even really got anything from your posts, so I’m not even sure what Mac’s going on.

Which is why his extrapolation as such rings unnecessarily defensive and OMGUS
Can I just point out that Scotty said this and it this very quote chain is him saying "Porscha here already asking the tough questions".
Holy shit you’re right.

Also props to you for not outright voting me for that. I legit forgot I responded to Porscha.

Mac probably town

I want whatever youre smoking lol

And what would i have been defending ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:05 pm Porscha calling my solve of Pyxxy/Scotty/Abigail LHF feels like a pretty bad defense and they feel a bit unusual to me so I could definitely have been wrong earlier on that townread.

Porscha/Abigail/Pyxxy or something could be the solve maybe.

I think as an entire poe it didnt seem to have a lot of thought behind it... scotty at that time had hardly posted, youve pushed him (fair argument), already was on pyxxy. And then just threw abbi in there. Idk, maybe youre right and its easy like that, but if scotty is their loudest wolf and he immediately fucked it up, idk how abbi/pyxxy plan on pulling the game out of their asses and it doesnt seem like they care!

I do be talking out of my ass a little

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:07 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:06 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:16 am POE

Scotty
Pyxxy
Abigail

I'm quite confident.
this is like lhf central is it not ? lol
I have abbi lower cuz she will get herself out of that spot if she is town me thinks but hasn't
How is it lhf central?
When you made that post im pretty sure they had hardky contributed, only person missing would have been falcon lol
that's super untrue... if I wanted to make lhf poe I'd have put serhal, falcon, sig... sounds like you're talking out of your ass.

Serhal and sig so lhf i forgot they were in the game lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:54 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:10 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:34 pm

Nah it is.
how? he's just been posting wifom for 2 days, how do you see it as a townclaim, especially for rondo
Porscha here already asking the tough questions

I forgot to get a wreath. What kind of Christmas is it without a wreath?
@Porscha thanks for baiting a wolf into voting me unintentionally but there are more efficient isn't ways to catch them lol.
um, I dont know how I've been strung into this lol, it was really rondo who baited scotty's vote onto you, no?
I haven’t even really got anything from your posts, so I’m not even sure what Mac’s going on.

Which is why his extrapolation as such rings unnecessarily defensive and OMGUS
Can I just point out that Scotty said this and it this very quote chain is him saying "Porscha here already asking the tough questions".

Yeah idk id expect more of a read on me than "havent really got anything" since his comment that i was asking hars questions like... implies he thought it was towny of me lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:15 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:16 pm I dont know how anybody is reading rondo with any seriousness right now
He is absolutely obvious town to me but I also recognise that he's essentially a Rubik's Cube to most people.
are you able to elaborate why he is obv town?
TMI

:dank_puff:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:06 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:16 am POE

Scotty
Pyxxy
Abigail

I'm quite confident.
this is like lhf central is it not ? lol
I have abbi lower cuz she will get herself out of that spot if she is town me thinks but hasn't
How is it lhf central?

When you made that post im pretty sure they had hardky contributed, only person missing would have been falcon lol

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:25 pm this sucks, long con is probably town, his iso has actual solving [as in trying in good faith to understand porscha and get on good terms with her, and is still voting her aka good faith push]. i thought that me suspecting him would ruffle his feathers a bit more, especially with mac changing his stance on long con. maybe he actually has nerves unlike me, but i wouldn't chop him today. and he does have weird posts like "Why isn't Porscha voting for Long Con?" but after thinking about that post, it betrays the fact that long con is actually and non-performatively trying to understand and mentally model porscha instead of some nonsense

I feel like that's generous but w/e lol

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