The Syndicate

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:19 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:00 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:54 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:51 pm prolly not voting sheep, syn, porscha today.

thamk

no deviation from Sunbae's game.

Su in F3 (my wolve pals are potatoes) :curtain:

i would never do this as a wolf etc etc etc

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:26 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:25 pm no idea Seanzie

Hmmm... it sounded like you did though.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:37 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:36 am

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:35 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:32 am sheep is here doing nothing while rondo tunnels me lol

What do you expect me to do?

pick a side

my side is that rondo's being dumb and you're probably town.

problem is rondo is being extremely fucking scummy in his pushes and reads that its basically too wolfy to be a wolf

why do u tr me

TWTBW does not exist.

If you call someone TWTBW than they are either a wolf or a detriment to town who will be a designated misexe in F(X) either way they should always be killed with impunity.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:01 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:53 am I have a potentially dangerous townread on lucy. Let me write it out and see how it feels

Lucy has shared that she doesn't have high hopes for this playerlist / doesnt perceive it as too elite (when she thinks im one of the best ones, then we know its completely doomed for us all)

She received mere 3 votes, 19 hours before eod. As a wolf, given that shes not afraid of this town, and given that she doesnt think of herself lowly as a scum player, i am led to believe that she wouldnt crumble under pressure the way wolves do. She should know that self vote + ate is not a safe strategy for survival

Now lets assume shes town. She doesnt have high hopes for the list. She believes she is the only way town can win. She receives votes and scumreads, and players arent playing the way she wants to. Its not so hard to believe that she would turn cynical and think "i will show you peasants for not respecting me" (i want to punish you all). Its not a mindset thats hard to believe. I believe it

I would not put lucy in my towncore as of yet, but i do believe she is town

disagreed

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:44 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:00 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

i meant to comment on this post as i found it noteworthy for Le Petit just kinda coming in and announcing that lucy will be a ML

Read these pages again. It's literally lucy who was posting this. It's not a me read.

oh ok i get this comment now

i got sidetracked irl

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:54 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:37 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:36 am

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:35 am

What do you expect me to do?

pick a side

my side is that rondo's being dumb and you're probably town.

problem is rondo is being extremely fucking scummy in his pushes and reads that its basically too wolfy to be a wolf

why do u tr me

TWTBW does not exist.

If you call someone TWTBW than they are either a wolf or a detriment to town who will be a designated misexe in F(X) either way they should always be killed with impunity.

giggles.

@Neon what had you done that you thought you were obviously out of wolf range?

honestly, in a way I believe the same thing as Neon, but sometimes I will use TWTBAW in short game scenarios just to describe a vibe moreso then actually calling someone TWTBAW literally... if that makes sense

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:13 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:03 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:54 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:37 am

my side is that rondo's being dumb and you're probably town.

problem is rondo is being extremely fucking scummy in his pushes and reads that its basically too wolfy to be a wolf

why do u tr me

TWTBW does not exist.

If you call someone TWTBW than they are either a wolf or a detriment to town who will be a designated misexe in F(X) either way they should always be killed with impunity.

giggles.

@Neon what had you done that you thought you were obviously out of wolf range?

honestly, in a way I believe the same thing as Neon, but sometimes I will use TWTBAW in short game scenarios just to describe a vibe moreso then actually calling someone TWTBAW literally... if that makes sense

ok. I wasn't giggling because of Neon's view on TWTBAW fwiw. Moreso because they like to be unreadable and won't do a s!%? to improve the situation (this isn't fair to you Neon, u were obv town in goc ), which would be policed by so many players it's not funny. I mean respect yourself and your wolf range, don't be shy, be townie when u actually rand villa (whatever that means for you).

1. do not talk OGI plz
2. I have an okay wolf range but feel like I am overestimated to how good of a wolf I am
3. It means right now, and I am being towny. Get good at reading me

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:14 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:01 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:53 am I have a potentially dangerous townread on lucy. Let me write it out and see how it feels

Lucy has shared that she doesn't have high hopes for this playerlist / doesnt perceive it as too elite (when she thinks im one of the best ones, then we know its completely doomed for us all)

She received mere 3 votes, 19 hours before eod. As a wolf, given that shes not afraid of this town, and given that she doesnt think of herself lowly as a scum player, i am led to believe that she wouldnt crumble under pressure the way wolves do. She should know that self vote + ate is not a safe strategy for survival

Now lets assume shes town. She doesnt have high hopes for the list. She believes she is the only way town can win. She receives votes and scumreads, and players arent playing the way she wants to. Its not so hard to believe that she would turn cynical and think "i will show you peasants for not respecting me" (i want to punish you all). Its not a mindset thats hard to believe. I believe it

I would not put lucy in my towncore as of yet, but i do believe she is town

disagreed

why did you disagree with this Syn? I actually think it's sensible. (++ tutuu/lucy -> heh, I am finally getting something ordered to look at. glgl)

i don't think having a meltdown is generally town indicative

also i started playing mafia in an era of cfc mafia where brutally insulting people personally was the go-to tactic for wolfing, to great success, because people get put on the backpedal and they start second-guessing themselves

also also i frown upon anyone who self-describes as a god. simply no interest in entertaining that

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:14 pm ugh im so behind I think I will just ISO and see why tf Le Petit is voting tutuu who seemed like the most obvious town to me in terms of seeming to want to move the game along. Besides Rondo later on

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 pm

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:34 pm In the meantime i'm going to go read some ISOs

hm
wait
who tf is rondo townreading

uh anyhow

cape first because that's easiest

What makes me the easiest person to read? I feel like I am pretty polarized.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:32 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:28 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:13 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:03 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:54 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am

TWTBW does not exist.

If you call someone TWTBW than they are either a wolf or a detriment to town who will be a designated misexe in F(X) either way they should always be killed with impunity.

giggles.

@Neon what had you done that you thought you were obviously out of wolf range?

honestly, in a way I believe the same thing as Neon, but sometimes I will use TWTBAW in short game scenarios just to describe a vibe moreso then actually calling someone TWTBAW literally... if that makes sense

ok. I wasn't giggling because of Neon's view on TWTBAW fwiw. Moreso because they like to be unreadable and won't do a s!%? to improve the situation (this isn't fair to you Neon, u were obv town in goc ), which would be policed by so many players it's not funny. I mean respect yourself and your wolf range, don't be shy, be townie when u actually rand villa (whatever that means for you).

1. do not talk OGI plz
2. I have an okay wolf range but feel like I am overestimated to how good of a wolf I am
3. It means right now, and I am being towny. Get good at reading me

?

That was a general answer to your general comment. Nothing related to this particular game. I already posted u were being townie here. Sorry u took it wrong lol, it really wasn't meant that way.

oh okay i haven't read many of your posts in general but you seem to be in everyone's POEs which from realtiming, im not sure I necessarily see. But alright. I did mean to speak about your neon comment but i didnt have anything to add except for a nod ig

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:37 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:32 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:14 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:01 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:53 am I have a potentially dangerous townread on lucy. Let me write it out and see how it feels

Lucy has shared that she doesn't have high hopes for this playerlist / doesnt perceive it as too elite (when she thinks im one of the best ones, then we know its completely doomed for us all)

She received mere 3 votes, 19 hours before eod. As a wolf, given that shes not afraid of this town, and given that she doesnt think of herself lowly as a scum player, i am led to believe that she wouldnt crumble under pressure the way wolves do. She should know that self vote + ate is not a safe strategy for survival

Now lets assume shes town. She doesnt have high hopes for the list. She believes she is the only way town can win. She receives votes and scumreads, and players arent playing the way she wants to. Its not so hard to believe that she would turn cynical and think "i will show you peasants for not respecting me" (i want to punish you all). Its not a mindset thats hard to believe. I believe it

I would not put lucy in my towncore as of yet, but i do believe she is town

disagreed

why did you disagree with this Syn? I actually think it's sensible. (++ tutuu/lucy -> heh, I am finally getting something ordered to look at. glgl)

i don't think having a meltdown is generally town indicative

also i started playing mafia in an era of cfc mafia where brutally insulting people personally was the go-to tactic for wolfing, to great success, because people get put on the backpedal and they start second-guessing themselves

also also i frown upon anyone who self-describes as a god. simply no interest in entertaining that

OK, but I do think tutuu's perspective of lucy!this game is sound still. It's not about AtEers in general, it's about lucy and tutuu. I do concede this can be ww but I guess less probable is how I feel.

let me get this right:

you agree with my poe of lucy + tutuu + wilgy

you believe lucy and tutuu are unaligned

so you believe lucy and tutuu are independently wolfy, but not together? (this is a fine position, just clarifying)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:46 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:23 pm LPP feels 30% informed on the things I've read from their slot. Lost C or W. Not sure which.

quote the posts pls

Nothing to inherently quote but more so a series that resulted in this thought process.

Of all the things that you chewed into on my posting, it was a Syn read that happened in like my first 8 posts during RVS still.

Thus at least on my data it seems that you saw 1 layer deep and didn't go further.

The next thing was how in spite of you joining thread while the Rondo/Lucy scadoodle was hot, I didn't see any takes of yours on the subject until Seanzie put it into words only prompted by my asking.

It all makes it feel like you are just level 1 ing everything.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:55 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:53 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:50 pm Like. I almost really feel that LPP or Pyxxy is correct wagon.

LPP advising Lucy to stop posting and step back for a second along with the seconding of Seanzies argument for T Lucy just isn't sitting right the more I think on it.

It's like you'd get good little town points for the take if Lucy is teammate or not. If Lucy is a teammate you defended them, if not you were at least "correct".

LPP has trended up for me recently, but I'm not sure if I could pinpoint a specific reason for it. I still think Pyxxy is probably fine, so I recommend you find better wagons or do a better job of convicing me on these ones.

Implying I need to convince others to my read I still think is faulty. I provide the data and assuming you are without agenda it's in your best interest to gauge and judge it however.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:58 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:51 pm prolly not voting sheep, syn, porscha today.

what made u add syn here to the list?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:09 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:58 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:51 pm prolly not voting sheep, syn, porscha today.

what made u add syn here to the list?

let me dig it ( started off as a meta read but I think a post made me add him, brb)

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:59 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:25 pm Hey - just popping in to say i wont be participating for this eod - sorry!

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Ive never in my life deliberately planned to end the day without voting, but i dont want to be making an uninformed vote. I have no real scumreads

Apologies if this is anti-town, it just feels better than a random vote to me, and i will participate and vote in all future eods

oh lol. you are killing me.

It's anti-town but it feels guenine I guess.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

what do you mean? they took their vote off of you

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:06 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:00 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:34 am cape is lock town imo and i have a tentative tr on neon

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:46 am to answer both of u (cape and porscha):

i dont know how to read wilgy. all i know is that he likes to chill. he's all about the chill. i thought that him making 5 reads and a vote 1 hour into the game means he's more interested / engaged than usual, and i thought it might be towny, hence i also put a question mark

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am i was going to vote with my queen lucy but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too it would break my heart to vote him for now so ill vote with cape

(i just clicked on the poll to vote for whoever he's voting and i literally forgot who it is as im writing this but it doesnt matter)

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am i was going to vote with my queen lucy but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too it would break my heart to vote him for now so ill vote with cape

(i just clicked on the poll to vote for whoever he's voting and i literally forgot who it is as im writing this but it doesnt matter)

towny post

Impressive streak tutuu. So cape is lock town because wat? Post 244 I presume. Then out of this literal mech clear, u hand him ur vote???

double voting with your townreads is really not an unheard of thing, you know that right?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:00 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:59 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:25 pm Hey - just popping in to say i wont be participating for this eod - sorry!

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Ive never in my life deliberately planned to end the day without voting, but i dont want to be making an uninformed vote. I have no real scumreads

Apologies if this is anti-town, it just feels better than a random vote to me, and i will participate and vote in all future eods

oh lol. you are killing me.

It's anti-town but it feels guenine I guess.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

what do you mean? they took their vote off of you

I don't like this post.

I was specifically referring to le petit's first line and im not sure how you are interpreting it. I'm just stating facts. tutuu was voting le petit, and then tutuu got off le petit, therefore in a literal sense doing the opposite of killing him.

Unless he meant "you are killing me" as a form of expression which is possible

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:10 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:20 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:19 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:10 pm @Syn: did u read the whole thing? Can u talk to me about your other SRs? if any

in rondo we trust (until he fucks up, then all my homies hate rondo)

also I generally agree with scum-reading tutuu, lucy, and wilgy

my volume read on wilgy wasn't just noise. his presence and goading feels off

tutuu is too conciliatory and very focused on redirecting attention elsewhere

iv'e never heard of a reverse SBPC read

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:14 pm hello le petite twink, hru?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:19 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:46 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:23 pm LPP feels 30% informed on the things I've read from their slot. Lost C or W. Not sure which.

quote the posts pls

Nothing to inherently quote but more so a series that resulted in this thought process.

Of all the things that you chewed into on my posting, it was a Syn read that happened in like my first 8 posts during RVS still.

Thus at least on my data it seems that you saw 1 layer deep and didn't go further.

The next thing was how in spite of you joining thread while the Rondo/Lucy scadoodle was hot, I didn't see any takes of yours on the subject until Seanzie put it into words only prompted by my asking.

It all makes it feel like you are just level 1 ing everything.

Thing is it was u posting readlists during rvs, calling out Syn for bad reasons, etc. You justifying it with "but someone gotta end rvs". But now it was during RVS still and I am level1 for reading it?

What's your other shade already? why should I have something to say when I wake up to 800 posts and the few I read live are people literally insulting each others lol?

Yes, because your read on me didn't expand beyond that whatsoever. I've added plenty to the thread and you focus on a miniscule happening in the first page and never evolved beyond it.

Because having something to say is how town advance the game? You had posted plenty before getting to affirm the Seanzie post, I don't see why it had to come only at that juncture.

So again, it feels like you are only surface deep.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 pmsimilarly i'll have to use olive oil as lube for someone

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 pm An analysis on your play regarding Lucy.

It feels very wolf AI.

Perhaps if the stance you gave wasn't secondhand from Seanzie I'd feel less inclined, but it all feels very stand out of danger and be right. Those behaviors are wolf indicative I think.

If you absolutely need the quote it's this one:

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:44 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:42 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:24 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:05 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:19 pm

I don't know why I didn't see this before. No, it was this post:



the focus on Lucy mentioning Mac didn't sit well with me. They're saying Mac is irrelevant, but then questioning Lucy further about Mac. Feels less like they're trying to read Lucy and more like they're just trying to look like they're doing something.

Is this read deterministic of Lucy's alignment?

No, but I'd gth Lucy town for other reasons.

What are these reasons?

They did a reaction test that I thought was kinda townie, even if not necessarily the most well-thought out. I've also never seen scum!Lucy AtE this much, and I'm usually of the mindset that if someone seems really upset, I give them the benefit of the doubt, and if they end up being scum, they never get the BoD again.

this tbh. I would be pretty mad if she is actually wolfing here.

This just feels like it's forcefully completely absolving you of responsibility on one of the more heated subjects of the thread.

But you also can't just read this quote alone to know that It needs the context of your ISO and thus individual quotes are somewhat pointless.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:19 pm 40 minutes.PNG

all this talk about voting le petit and somehow ten minutes ago I was the only person on le petit?

that feels off

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:33 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:27 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:14 pm hello le petite twink, hru?

good, tx. u?

give me your POE pls. (I haven't read most of your posts fwiw. Just the page this morning and the ones I saw in Neon's ISO)

i don't really have one, i'm in self pres mode, but ideally i'll lynch syn. i also didn't read the part where he was "open to sharing reads" because he was absolutely not, his reads have been extremely stagnant and he hasn't voiced them in a critical way at all

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:52 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:52 pm i am not doctor and i not will claim as such to survive ftr, that's game losing fps

fixed

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 pm Can we just yeet Pyxxy tho?