The Syndicate

I'mma swap this now, cause focus has shifted, and we have enough people on current wagon regardless. Also might be useful later is other rules do things with votes and shizz.

/vote: SeonRichard

@osieorb18 or relevant hosts (will also post in vote chat)

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:03 pm
Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:51 pm
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:54 pm i don't know why we're being shaded for not claiming when none of the following have claimed their roles either

TheLukundo
Boquise
KurosakiIchogo ("kinda VT" is not a role)
SeonRichard
TwoPlayersAndAOnion
FateShirou
SkillIssue
If you read my posts carefully, you will find my claim.
You quoted a part of my post that is not essential.
I said I might be in a conversation under certain circumstances, but that didn't happen.
The chat would be a non factional one, like a neighbourhood
That is my role claim, paraphrased

That sounds like a conditional neighborizer. Do you know if you keep the chat if you flip, assuming it lasts more than one phase?

Regardless of what happens, I'd like to thank @juliets for being gracious enough to host us, and I'd like to apologize for the nonsense earlier.

WE did read your posts, didn't find it. Link the post please.

There IS the point that voting Whysper will not change the site for the next phase.

Is that still something people are looking for, or has the removal of the weird lag thing solved most of the issues?

@Tsumugi 'Xactly.

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:49 pm Lel.

Agreed.

Valid, mostly put a vote down before falling asleep to make sure trivia did not occur (though honestly we miiiiight be beyond that, it's hard to tell for certain with rule wording), and TR was a good hold for it.

....Kinda want to flip SeonRichard now to see if the new alignment is a thing though.

same here (hi, it's lemon again)

boq isn't very high for me in priority in terms of elims
I'd say they've been mildly towny

I kind of buy Treaper's claim, I guess.
At least, it doesn't make me want to yeet them immediately.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:48 pm how much longer do we have?

Good question.

@osieorb18 or other hosts, I would request a timer and vote count, if you are amenable atm.

Lel.

Agreed.

Valid, mostly put a vote down before falling asleep to make sure trivia did not occur (though honestly we miiiiight be beyond that, it's hard to tell for certain with rule wording), and TR was a good hold for it.

....Kinda want to flip SeonRichard now to see if the new alignment is a thing though.

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:44 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:10 pm Also the heads of this hydra have been contradicting each other for toDay mostly to mess with Zone, because it amused us.

Also I'm still, as a player, pissed at Daeron for attempting to turbo yeet anyone out of the thread "before they wake up". Actually stupidly rude.
I don't find contradicting you amusing, Triss, but I think having a difference in opinion is cool and there is nothing wrong with it

this is lemon again

'Xactly.

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:10 pm Also the heads of this hydra have been contradicting each other for toDay mostly to mess with Zone, because it amused us.

Also I'm still, as a player, pissed at Daeron for attempting to turbo yeet anyone out of the thread "before they wake up". Actually stupidly rude.

I don't find contradicting you amusing, Triss, but I think having a difference in opinion is cool and there is nothing wrong with it

this is lemon again

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:38 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:08 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:27 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 am Think I'm ok with yeeting Boq or Treereaper atm, and Lemon wanted Treereaper as well.
And I'd like to avoid trivia again, sooooo...
hmmmmmm
opportunistic m'lord tbh
I agree,

It doesn't make sense FoolsGold targets me when they are scum (presumably would be goodreading me then) and then now suspecting me for real somehow without anything major happening to make that change happen.

I'd like to test the scum stays scum theory on second layer as well.

**/vote FoolsGold**

~Solic
Targeted you because you haven't flipped, and I couldn't recall a ton of the effect on the thread you've had. Other people were in the running for both heads, you were the convergence point.
Not sure what to think of you now though.

Anyway this quoted post is awful logic. We've already had multiple people change alignment in terms of host flip.

@TownMisleaders Just to clear things up out here. You think there's a Disguiser or Forger who's currently messing with flips in modposts?
the logic here is that, one, they didn't flip yet, so unless ur presuming there is more than one evil faction, its completely baseless to be voting them
and 2nd, tree repeat and boq are both lazy scum reads

....*squint*
Iiiiii mean, *I* was talking about the idea that people stay the same general side of the alignment fence when yeeted the first time. And that we were voting Treereaper due to both of us couldn't come up with reasons to not do so, along with the fact that they haven't flipped, because more info is useful.

this was lemon btw
the post you responded to was Triss' I think

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:38 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:08 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:27 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 am Think I'm ok with yeeting Boq or Treereaper atm, and Lemon wanted Treereaper as well.
And I'd like to avoid trivia again, sooooo...
hmmmmmm
opportunistic m'lord tbh
I agree,

It doesn't make sense FoolsGold targets me when they are scum (presumably would be goodreading me then) and then now suspecting me for real somehow without anything major happening to make that change happen.

I'd like to test the scum stays scum theory on second layer as well.

**/vote FoolsGold**

~Solic
Targeted you because you haven't flipped, and I couldn't recall a ton of the effect on the thread you've had. Other people were in the running for both heads, you were the convergence point.
Not sure what to think of you now though.

Anyway this quoted post is awful logic. We've already had multiple people change alignment in terms of host flip.

@TownMisleaders Just to clear things up out here. You think there's a Disguiser or Forger who's currently messing with flips in modposts?
the logic here is that, one, they didn't flip yet, so unless ur presuming there is more than one evil faction, its completely baseless to be voting them
and 2nd, tree repeat and boq are both lazy scum reads

there's definitely more than just 1 evil faction

also, when other hydras were saying things like they wanted to check in with their other heads, you were calling them betas
but you're giving the same response now

this part isn't very AI but I just find it funny

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:54 pm i don't know why we're being shaded for not claiming when none of the following have claimed their roles either

TheLukundo
Boquise
KurosakiIchogo ("kinda VT" is not a role)
SeonRichard
TwoPlayersAndAOnion
FateShirou
SkillIssue

because you were hard pushing for others to claim but now when it comes to your own slot, you're this reluctant to claim

Also the heads of this hydra have been contradicting each other for toDay mostly to mess with Zone, because it amused us.

Also I'm still, as a player, pissed at Daeron for attempting to turbo yeet anyone out of the thread "before they wake up". Actually stupidly rude.

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:27 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 am Think I'm ok with yeeting Boq or Treereaper atm, and Lemon wanted Treereaper as well.
And I'd like to avoid trivia again, sooooo...
hmmmmmm
opportunistic m'lord tbh
I agree,

It doesn't make sense FoolsGold targets me when they are scum (presumably would be goodreading me then) and then now suspecting me for real somehow without anything major happening to make that change happen.

I'd like to test the scum stays scum theory on second layer as well.

**/vote FoolsGold**

~Solic

Targeted you because you haven't flipped, and I couldn't recall a ton of the effect on the thread you've had. Other people were in the running for both heads, you were the convergence point.
Not sure what to think of you now though.

Anyway this quoted post is awful logic. We've already had multiple people change alignment in terms of host flip.

@TownMisleaders Just to clear things up out here. You think there's a Disguiser or Forger who's currently messing with flips in modposts?

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:43 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:42 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm Osie confirmed to me that Rebels are good-aligned uninformed majority
when i became mafia, he confirmed that they are good-aligned uninformed majority
and that I can assume that town are in fact, bad-aligned informed minority
wait, Millium
Osie confirmed that Rebel was good-aligned maj to you for your W1 alignment, right?
so that means Rebel can indeed be evil in W2

my theory has potential now
ftr, I don't think we seen any core role rebel

Millium was rebel

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:36 pm
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:27 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:09 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:53 am

updated sheet
if you haven't claimed, claim (looking at you @TreeReaper)
also would appreciate if everyone outted their difference checks
Fine, I won't dig in longer, especially with Gorta wanting to claim earlier. I get a bit stubborn.

We're villager with the wincon to get rid of spies/werewolves and any other threatening factions. Difference check was Skillsissue. Now you can all act as if this would change a read.

~Solic
why were you so reluctant to claim this? i don't get it
Because ordering me to do stuff, makes me less likely to do it.

And I do think it has added nothing to view of our slot. Skillsissue was flipped town, so outing our difference check would only serve to narrow us more easily down to villager without adding new information, because Skillsissue's first alignment had already flipped.

And it would just paint a target for spies/werewolves to specifically come after us.

well, a lot of people have already claimed before you so no, not really
it was also weird how you were more open to talking about what your role did than claiming alignment but I don't find that particularly scummy so idk

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm Osie confirmed to me that Rebels are good-aligned uninformed majority
when i became mafia, he confirmed that they are good-aligned uninformed majority
and that I can assume that town are in fact, bad-aligned informed minority

wait, Millium
Osie confirmed that Rebel was good-aligned maj to you for your W1 alignment, right?
so that means Rebel can indeed be evil in W2

my theory has potential now

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:27 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 am Think I'm ok with yeeting Boq or Treereaper atm, and Lemon wanted Treereaper as well.
And I'd like to avoid trivia again, sooooo...
hmmmmmm
opportunistic m'lord tbh
I agree,

It doesn't make sense FoolsGold targets me when they are scum (presumably would be goodreading me then) and then now suspecting me for real somehow without anything major happening to make that change happen.

I'd like to test the scum stays scum theory on second layer as well.

**/vote FoolsGold**

~Solic

ftr I no longer suspect you as much after the claim

regarding the bite, we were scum and just listening to what the ??? chat wanted because we wanted to:
1. prove our role and
2. build rapport

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:24 pm I've been thinking it's just rebels/villagers/town against werewolves/mafia/spies and it make sense to me that good layers to good and scum would layer to scum, even though there have been some accounts that were confusing that (so I didn't really read up on it). (But it doesn't make sense to have scum flip to good, because they could just out their original scumbuds) I don't think this theory is verifiably false on shown flips yet though.

~Solic

unfortunately, evil to good is exactly what happened to us (we were wolves and now we are uniformed majority faction called "mafia")
thus, my current theory is that:
1. all W2 rands are randomized and don't correlate to W1 roles
2. Osie has accounted for outting previous partner in some way (in what way, we do not know)
3. good and evil faction names flip in W2 (e.g., mafia and wolves are "good" and town and village are "bad", idk what is happening with spies and rebels tbh)

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:21 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:22 am
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:13 am this push on crichard is rubbish, you think he just decides to make up a citizen faction and claim it as scum?
It's a random faction we never heard of and they have thus far been the only one to claim it. I think some doubt here is natural.
If they were neutral, why didn't they just claim neutral? And this might be a bit picky - why do they have a towny-sounding faction name like "Citizen" instead of something like "Survivor".
If they were town, why do they have a separate faction all by themself?
1. they aren't claiming neutral
2. there's already 2 uninformed factions in the first world - village and town, so i don't see why there can't be another. doesn't matter if they're the only one, and there may be others who just haven't claimed it yet

wasn't rebel the other good faction? where did citizen come from?

would be my counter to that

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:17 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:15 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:05 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:40 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?
no confirmation
but my speculation is that village and rebel are also evil and wolves and spies are good in the 2nd world
rebels are good
huh
so maybe spies are still evil in W2
probably, I wonder if we can assume there is 3 evil factions and 3 good factions, seems to align with 3 kills

it makes sense with all the neutrals imo

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:14 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:11 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:02 pm I currently feel good about Milium and Tsumugi, that's also why I had decided to target Tsumugi with our ability.

I think TownMisleaders pushed the whole "it's just a FFA, so reads don't matter angle" too much, which makes me trust them less, but not enough to actually go after them, since I have been quite low efforting. I think their initial push on DKKoba was not as warranted, but I can see why it was continued after Math started posting more. I think the random comment they made on how we're somehow responsible for trivia murder super shady though. I haven't seen that resolved actually, so can anyone explain how it has to be someone causing it and not just rule #147?

Foolsgold just feels in default anti trust mode regarding us and I don't really understand why. The fact that they were scum at first, may make the antagonism more clear, but they haven't really addressed it openly.

~Solic
it's because you haven't claimed tbh
and you're the only slot to not have claimed afaik
i mean that's not true, so Arctic still has no claimed

they claimed village in the ??? chat
as for role, idk
I think Tsumugi is trying to get them to claim it

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:18 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:13 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:11 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:02 pm I currently feel good about Milium and Tsumugi, that's also why I had decided to target Tsumugi with our ability.

I think TownMisleaders pushed the whole "it's just a FFA, so reads don't matter angle" too much, which makes me trust them less, but not enough to actually go after them, since I have been quite low efforting. I think their initial push on DKKoba was not as warranted, but I can see why it was continued after Math started posting more. I think the random comment they made on how we're somehow responsible for trivia murder super shady though. I haven't seen that resolved actually, so can anyone explain how it has to be someone causing it and not just rule #147?

Foolsgold just feels in default anti trust mode regarding us and I don't really understand why. The fact that they were scum at first, may make the antagonism more clear, but they haven't really addressed it openly.

~Solic
it's because you haven't claimed tbh
and you're the only slot to not have claimed afaik
Yea, not buying this, you also choose to bite us when not everyone had claimed already.

~Solic
tbf, we were wolf when we chose to bite you

EBWOP

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:13 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:11 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:02 pm I currently feel good about Milium and Tsumugi, that's also why I had decided to target Tsumugi with our ability.

I think TownMisleaders pushed the whole "it's just a FFA, so reads don't matter angle" too much, which makes me trust them less, but not enough to actually go after them, since I have been quite low efforting. I think their initial push on DKKoba was not as warranted, but I can see why it was continued after Math started posting more. I think the random comment they made on how we're somehow responsible for trivia murder super shady though. I haven't seen that resolved actually, so can anyone explain how it has to be someone causing it and not just rule #147?

Foolsgold just feels in default anti trust mode regarding us and I don't really understand why. The fact that they were scum at first, may make the antagonism more clear, but they haven't really addressed it openly.

~Solic
it's because you haven't claimed tbh
and you're the only slot to not have claimed afaik
Yea, not buying this, you also choose to bite us when not everyone had claimed already.

~Solic

tbf, we were wolf when we chose to bit you

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:05 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:40 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?
no confirmation
but my speculation is that village and rebel are also evil and wolves and spies are good in the 2nd world
rebels are good

huh
so maybe spies are still evil in W2

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:55 am My difference check is on DKkoba. Idk how everyone got owl.

thanks, noted

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:09 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:53 am

updated sheet
if you haven't claimed, claim (looking at you @TreeReaper)
also would appreciate if everyone outted their difference checks
Fine, I won't dig in longer, especially with Gorta wanting to claim earlier. I get a bit stubborn.

We're villager with the wincon to get rid of spies/werewolves and any other threatening factions. Difference check was Skillsissue. Now you can all act as if this would change a read.

~Solic

just saw this
pls ignore my previous post

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:02 pm I currently feel good about Milium and Tsumugi, that's also why I had decided to target Tsumugi with our ability.

I think TownMisleaders pushed the whole "it's just a FFA, so reads don't matter angle" too much, which makes me trust them less, but not enough to actually go after them, since I have been quite low efforting. I think their initial push on DKKoba was not as warranted, but I can see why it was continued after Math started posting more. I think the random comment they made on how we're somehow responsible for trivia murder super shady though. I haven't seen that resolved actually, so can anyone explain how it has to be someone causing it and not just rule #147?

Foolsgold just feels in default anti trust mode regarding us and I don't really understand why. The fact that they were scum at first, may make the antagonism more clear, but they haven't really addressed it openly.

~Solic

it's because you haven't claimed tbh
and you're the only slot to not have claimed afaik

updated sheet
if you haven't claimed, claim (looking at you @TreeReaper)
also would appreciate if everyone outted their difference checks

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:46 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:40 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?
no confirmation
but my speculation is that village and rebel are also evil and wolves and spies are good in the 2nd world
thats too much evil i think lol?

depending on numbers.

not really?
same numbers as world 1, essentially

and I think there is no correlation/pattern between what role you have in W1 and W2

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:42 am hmmm, now I really want to know the alignment treereaper is because its not like they are shot anytime soon.

yeah, Treaper is now the only slot that has not yet claimed afaik

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:38 am Well there has yet to be any confirmation of spies existing or what their wincon may be.

kind of why I want to vote within the unflipped people

I think spies exist just like how wolves exist
we just need to flip them

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?

no confirmation
but my speculation is that village and rebel are also evil and wolves and spies are good in the 2nd world

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:28 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:26 am
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:20 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:16 amrip lag
They're not dead they're just uninterested
Sorry, not Lag the player.
There was an internet lag on my end so I ended up posting the same thing multiple times.
I'm aware but that isn't gonna stop me from making a groan worthy joke

haha

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:25 am I mean I dont think they explicitly made that faction up if that's what u are trying to argue
Whether they are evil is another story all together

most things are factions, outside neutral benigns

werewolf is a faction, cult is faction, mafia is a faction, town is a faction (regardless of how many exist in that faction)

Was cult the neutral faction?
Can't really remember.

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:20 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:16 amrip lag
They're not dead they're just uninterested

Sorry, not Lag the player.
There was an internet lag on my end so I ended up posting the same thing multiple times.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:13 am this push on crichard is rubbish, you think he just decides to make up a citizen faction and claim it as scum?

It's a random faction we never heard of and they have thus far been the only one to claim it. I think some doubt here is natural.
If they were neutral, why didn't they just claim neutral? And this might be a bit picky - why do they have a towny-sounding faction name like "Citizen" instead of something like "Survivor".
If they were town, why do they have a separate faction all by themself?

rip lag

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:12 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:07 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie
I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.
im not massively convinced, i'd rather kill whysper since u made it pretty obvious that slot was ur teammate in the first world

That was how I read:

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:43 am basically
kill whysper or kill foolsgold again
job done

Thanks for clarifying that, I guess.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:12 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:07 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie
I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.
im not massively convinced, i'd rather kill whysper since u made it pretty obvious that slot was ur teammate in the first world

That was how I read:

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:43 am basically
kill whysper or kill foolsgold again
job done

Thanks for clarifying that, I guess.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:12 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:07 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie
I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.
im not massively convinced, i'd rather kill whysper since u made it pretty obvious that slot was ur teammate in the first world

That was how I read:

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:43 am basically
kill whysper or kill foolsgold again
job done

Thanks for clarifying that, I guess.

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:03 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:00 am
SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard
I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.
My alignment claim was mentioned on Fortress of Lies.
I'll bring up the post for proof and it was from beancat.
This is in case you think I'm making it up. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

Thank you. I saw this post but I didn't see a claim post from your slot in particular.
Did you claim in a private chat out of thread?

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:02 am Arctic did the same shit in my last town game, he tunneled two different town players, I think I was one of them

was he town or mafia in that game?

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Honestly idk how Arctic doesn't get lunched more often than not with the way he talks lmao

I mean the argument I could take here is that FoolsGold is a separate minority evil, not aligned with kiiruma, but I'm assuming kiiruma was a hit until told otherwise, it's literally the only thing I can believe, like I can't sit here and just assume everything is a lie

I mean, sure, there is a chance we could have randed as a minority evil the second time but using kiiruma's difference check to make the case that we're not mafia is just very questionable, considering kiiruma wasn't even mafia themself.
MisLeaders also did say they didn't know if it applied to both worlds or not so it feels weird that they are so convinced that their take is correct.

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard

I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.

Also, MisLeaders is trying really hard to make a push out of questionable logic.

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