The Syndicate

(joking, very well played game by wolves)

WOW IMAGINE NOT FIGURING THIS OUT AFTER I SINGLE HANDEDLY PELTED THE GREATEST WOLF ON SITE HISTORY, HOLY SHIT TOWN SKILL ISSUE

Except sabi. Still town

If Mac is town I am re evaluating everyone btw lol

Gg Mac. Enjoy retirement.

Mac seems to finally be having fun at least.

My legacy is no scum team is going to grant me the mercy of death so I will see you all tomorrow.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:18 pm don't flash wagon neon jfc

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

Fine geesh back to gnosia

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

I mean you said it was bad

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:25 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:23 pm Also my partner and I ordered pizza and is allowing my degenerate mafia behavior while sitting with me.

Bless her.
And yet you say you dont like strong women smh you are such a liar

Yes, it was a joke. I love strong women. I was raised by one and it informs how I view the world heavily.

Also my partner and I ordered pizza and is allowing my degenerate mafia behavior while sitting with me.

Bless her.

Not reading the game does hurt your understanding of things this is true.

I want to believe in town santy. I want to believe.

Santy found the iso button and then decided to go ham.

Take my energy.

@Porscha you are out touch santy found the iso button

Feel like we should have had santy learn to iso sooner.

Yeah I agree tbh on jack.

Mac got really aggro on me day 1 when I said I was ok with Jack being gone.

Sticking with my vote and hanging out with my partner. Good luck in the wars to come.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:42 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:40 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:38 pm Mac what the fuck am I supposed to do with you.
flip me and move on prob
Confidence in your reads out of 10 atm?
townreads like 7 scumreads like 2

Remind me of your town reads please.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:40 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:38 pm Mac what the fuck am I supposed to do with you.
flip me and move on prob

Confidence in your reads out of 10 atm?

Mac what the fuck am I supposed to do with you.

Adapt your town game ao your reading ability goes a bit deeper than 'within the possibility of his wolf range so I can't ever tr'

Like there's only 3 wolves. If you genuinely find me one of the three scummiest people fair but lots of people have good wolf games lol

Sabi your read on me is stale and frozen. Just let it go and I am more liable to be night killed than anything lol

I am always sorry when wolf achro inevitably gets future town achro in trouble lol. Then town achro gets sussed incorrectly which helps wolf achro more in the future.

Wolf achro just takes takes takes.

Remember eod1 or eod2 you said I was never a wolf in that game sabi.

Good times.

Sorry again for the trauma.

I was dead ass just responding to everything but the last line.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:58 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:54 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:52 pm Like, I stand by the fact that one if these three is true by that kill almost always

V!Hollowkatt
W!Achro
W!Lily.

Other thing it could point out is to another UTR slot without much impact being Scum (Wilgz,Jack,Neon)
this literally doesn't make any sense but whatever idc to read this game more rn
I mean it can

a) locks in bad reads
b) one less voice in hk's corner down the line

Not saying it has to be this world but 'doesn't make any sense' lacks imaginaton imo.
lock in bad reads is for wolves with influence not low posting wolves and b being the exclusive reason does not happen so yes I still think what I said is true

Okay hold on.

Sorry, I missed the very last sentence by Santy like four times sorry lmao.

Withdrawn.

You can't always look at the world as it is, but as the world as it could be.

What if people started today more paranoid of say, me because visor died? It would have been reasonable and then day goes off track wildly.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:54 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:52 pm Like, I stand by the fact that one if these three is true by that kill almost always

V!Hollowkatt
W!Achro
W!Lily.

Other thing it could point out is to another UTR slot without much impact being Scum (Wilgz,Jack,Neon)
this literally doesn't make any sense but whatever idc to read this game more rn

I mean it can

a) locks in bad reads
b) one less voice in hk's corner down the line

Not saying it has to be this world but 'doesn't make any sense' lacks imaginaton imo.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:38 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:51 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:45 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:37 am Achro what do you think of mac
Oh hold on let me just peel off the tape of this secret read I posted earlier...

Okay so I didn't feel like he was being genuine with Sabi to start the game like he was just kind of phoning in the being offended by Sabi bit. At first I was like that meme of the guy looking at the butterfly thinking to myself 'is this partner distancing?' but then Sabi improved so I wasn't sure what to do about Mac. This is like a "not really a big deal" type of early read but I filed it away and then he just kind of kept the interaction going for a bit in what I found to be almost baiting to Sabi to say something to allow him to keep going.

Then like Wilgy called it out and I was like 'OH SHIT' Wilgy is town suddenly and it made me feel like I wasn't just imagining it. So I noted that as an early wolf ping.

I have a town read on Esooa so I don't like the vote there, and I also thought his discussion of maths and wagon formations came off a bit predatory. Obviously like it could be true but it contradicts my current landscape of the game and it's one of those things that sounds OK until you try lynching based off of it, its wrong, and suddenly its "oh I guess Achro is scum!" and then I am not and it's just a mess from there or some such.

Also I expected him to kinda dig into me a bit more here, smash my head open and see what spills out but he has been very hands off outside of a couple of questions and it gives the feeling like he is being a little cautious around me which doesn't feel great.

We'll see how day progresses but so far it's kind of like 'eh'
I'll let you in on a secret.

I am not really offended by things sabi says, I just compulsively react as though I am because I like it when she backtracks and says sorry lol. It makes me feel powerful.
I feel like this is true from Mac and he is wolf who regrets saying this as a defense against my early bad feelings on Sabi lol.
Because after this he goes on to AtE the fuck out of Sabi interactions.

So like. Yeah.

@Porscha @Sabiplz

So I think of two things here

1) Mac was lying originally to cover up for his early iffy interactions with Sabi. Should be scum indicative.

2) Mac was lying when he got "tilted" about Sabi's treatment of him later re: it affecting his play in dramatic ways as we've seen in this game.

Either way I feel like booting Mac makes the most sense today, not like anyone is suddenly going to go 'we love santy for no reason' tomorrow. I hope.

If this doesn't sway you fair enough, I just thought it was a stark contrast with how Mac has handled being AtE'd in the past as town.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:51 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:45 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:37 am Achro what do you think of mac
Oh hold on let me just peel off the tape of this secret read I posted earlier...

Okay so I didn't feel like he was being genuine with Sabi to start the game like he was just kind of phoning in the being offended by Sabi bit. At first I was like that meme of the guy looking at the butterfly thinking to myself 'is this partner distancing?' but then Sabi improved so I wasn't sure what to do about Mac. This is like a "not really a big deal" type of early read but I filed it away and then he just kind of kept the interaction going for a bit in what I found to be almost baiting to Sabi to say something to allow him to keep going.

Then like Wilgy called it out and I was like 'OH SHIT' Wilgy is town suddenly and it made me feel like I wasn't just imagining it. So I noted that as an early wolf ping.

I have a town read on Esooa so I don't like the vote there, and I also thought his discussion of maths and wagon formations came off a bit predatory. Obviously like it could be true but it contradicts my current landscape of the game and it's one of those things that sounds OK until you try lynching based off of it, its wrong, and suddenly its "oh I guess Achro is scum!" and then I am not and it's just a mess from there or some such.

Also I expected him to kinda dig into me a bit more here, smash my head open and see what spills out but he has been very hands off outside of a couple of questions and it gives the feeling like he is being a little cautious around me which doesn't feel great.

We'll see how day progresses but so far it's kind of like 'eh'
I'll let you in on a secret.

I am not really offended by things sabi says, I just compulsively react as though I am because I like it when she backtracks and says sorry lol. It makes me feel powerful.
I feel like this is true from Mac and he is wolf who regrets saying this as a defense against my early bad feelings on Sabi lol.

Because after this he goes on to AtE the fuck out of Sabi interactions.

So like. Yeah.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:51 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:45 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:37 am Achro what do you think of mac
Oh hold on let me just peel off the tape of this secret read I posted earlier...

Okay so I didn't feel like he was being genuine with Sabi to start the game like he was just kind of phoning in the being offended by Sabi bit. At first I was like that meme of the guy looking at the butterfly thinking to myself 'is this partner distancing?' but then Sabi improved so I wasn't sure what to do about Mac. This is like a "not really a big deal" type of early read but I filed it away and then he just kind of kept the interaction going for a bit in what I found to be almost baiting to Sabi to say something to allow him to keep going.

Then like Wilgy called it out and I was like 'OH SHIT' Wilgy is town suddenly and it made me feel like I wasn't just imagining it. So I noted that as an early wolf ping.

I have a town read on Esooa so I don't like the vote there, and I also thought his discussion of maths and wagon formations came off a bit predatory. Obviously like it could be true but it contradicts my current landscape of the game and it's one of those things that sounds OK until you try lynching based off of it, its wrong, and suddenly its "oh I guess Achro is scum!" and then I am not and it's just a mess from there or some such.

Also I expected him to kinda dig into me a bit more here, smash my head open and see what spills out but he has been very hands off outside of a couple of questions and it gives the feeling like he is being a little cautious around me which doesn't feel great.

We'll see how day progresses but so far it's kind of like 'eh'
I'll let you in on a secret.

I am not really offended by things sabi says, I just compulsively react as though I am because I like it when she backtracks and says sorry lol. It makes me feel powerful.

I feel like this is true from Mac and he is wolf who regrets saying this as a defense against my early bad feelings on Sabi lol.

One thing I learned from my champs qualifier was not to eliminate people solving before people who arent even if you think they can both be scum.

At least this way I can get another day out of santy regardless of alignment. Mac is full potato now.

actually, you know what

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

I am voting mac out tomorrow anyway, and he is kind of retired already

Give me another day of santy effort posting over this tbh

This game is reminding me a bit of my champs qualifier where a lot of people have low wim/low time to put in effort so I am doing my best to not get stuck in one mindset but I am not sure if I am going to be able to re-evaluate correctly if I am off course here, but just got to do my best lol

oops I meant to vote santy there lmao.

well I am voting santy now x)

I see a broken image.

Anyway I am heading out. If I am the night kill its because I am the only one with WIM not because my reads are deadly accurate by definition, something to keep in mind.

glgl

Spoiler: show

Sorry if wrong bud, leave a legacy.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:49 pm hot take: the people complaining the game is hard are the wolf team

who would that be

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:47 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:43 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:40 pm Anyways, Lily solving and posting D1 just stroke me as the one I see from V!Lily. They are one of the players I have played more in this playerlist. And to put an example of Lily pinging me as town, is the post near EoD they put with the naked solve of hk/mac/neon tbh. Like, if you retrace Lily posts and sus through the day you can see how the things click and its a towny solving I feel like cuz its not for the show, but rather them trying to figure out the game. I think I dont have to explain why they are unpaired with hk.
But their pushes to Mac and Mac's reply I feel that are also unpaired tbh, Like I feel Lily is one of the players that most sussed Mac through the game?
So its like in a rather towny position.
So why would her misreading you cause any doubts? You aren't polarized, are you? Does seeing the things I see really cause doubt to stir within you?

My D1 was def different with regards with how I played other games with Lily. My D2 not. I think I remarked that some time when I felt weirded out Lily didnt find me today when I put more effort. But it could be cause Lily WIM is struggling or whatev this day too, so it was enough to like, reeval my strong townread, but not to drop it by any means

Hm, okay, so you still have lily at like 95% so if you're town and she is scum you're just completely snowed, alright.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Back to this then.

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:40 pm Anyways, Lily solving and posting D1 just stroke me as the one I see from V!Lily. They are one of the players I have played more in this playerlist. And to put an example of Lily pinging me as town, is the post near EoD they put with the naked solve of hk/mac/neon tbh. Like, if you retrace Lily posts and sus through the day you can see how the things click and its a towny solving I feel like cuz its not for the show, but rather them trying to figure out the game. I think I dont have to explain why they are unpaired with hk.
But their pushes to Mac and Mac's reply I feel that are also unpaired tbh, Like I feel Lily is one of the players that most sussed Mac through the game?
So its like in a rather towny position.

So why would her misreading you cause any doubts? You aren't polarized, are you? Does seeing the things I see really cause doubt to stir within you?

Now what about Mac overrides those reads of mine? Do you fully agree with those reads, half agree, find them kind of compelling? What goes through your head when you read those posts.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:35 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:33 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:29 pm i went into this day saying i wouldn't be putting much solving effort in because i have no wim and if that ends up getting me MLed then so be it

i am here to talk in real time if anyone wants to though and i can say where my head is at
Well, it's just, someone's got to play the game, right?

Everyone can claim to have a lack of WIM including Mac. How am I supposed to find you if you don't try?
i have tried and will continue trying i'm just not gonna be iso digging to try and figure out who is flying under the radar or anything, i'll vote mac who i think is a wolf and reeval tomorrow

Can you tell me what about my case against Santy makes the most sense to you? What were some of the highlights that really drew you into my perspective?

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:29 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:26 pm Hi santy let's talk. If you are town do you really truly 100% believe in your heart visor was killed n1 while not sussing any scum?
I'd say like I am 75% sure of that. If Hk flips Wolf, I would be like a lot less sure lf that tho I'd say. Tho It will point most the suspicion at you cuz Lily/hk doesnt seem paired?
Also I think Lily/Mac doesnt seem paired also

Why so sure?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:29 pm i went into this day saying i wouldn't be putting much solving effort in because i have no wim and if that ends up getting me MLed then so be it

i am here to talk in real time if anyone wants to though and i can say where my head is at

Well, it's just, someone's got to play the game, right?

Everyone can claim to have a lack of WIM including Mac. How am I supposed to find you if you don't try?

Hi santy let's talk. If you are town do you really truly 100% believe in your heart visor was killed n1 while not sussing any scum?

Anyway this topic sucks and lily has pinged me. I promised myself if I get pings I re evaluate. Lots of smoke over this slot today by a lot of people I trust and some I am unsure about so maybe there's some fire.

Let's re evaluate tbh tbh

[VOTE: lily] aubergine

Hm hm hm.

Porscha is any of your esooa suspicion having to do with santy being a wolf? Or are those independent.

Well he asked if all 3 were town.

I think hk is town already so I addressed the ones I am unsure about and then moved to the action step he asked for of what next.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:13 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:06 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:03 pm Also, wagons were me/Mac/Hk for most part of the day.
Anyone thinks they could be T/T/T ? Please dont try to answer 'well I think x is always a wolf so no'. Like, try to really analize wagonomics and the scenarios in where I am Villa, scenarios when Mac is villa, and scenarios where Hk is villa.

If the answer is positive, who could be the wolves?
If you and mac are both town I am dumping Esooa into a river on the basis of trusting your skill sets there tbh. First time playing with Esooa and if a lot of Esooa's pushes are wrong then yeah no got to go.
Conveniently leaving HK out of the scenario and inserting esooa. For what

Conveniently thinking hk is town anyway.

What do you mean by conveniently

Whenever I real time with santy I feel like I am talking to a townie tbh

Mild stress

(today)

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