The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:00 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:58 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:56 pm Getting nervous are we?
Yeah
I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:00 pm Are you guys thinking this is a great doctor or an inactive mafia?

Good doctor just because of how people's posting habits. The majority of people have posted a few times over the past. I don't think it's possible that all 3 mafia happened to not log in for 24 hours, twice in a row.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:58 pm The tandem of Dennis and falcon coming out swinging for splints’ head feels…off

I realized how weird it would look but I'm not about to let someone I think is civ just... die. Not without at least trying to step in.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:56 pm Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:55 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:41 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:39 pm There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean
This is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:

Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate

I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to

Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints
Why would you assume that we all think those 2 are good?

Has there been anyone saying they aren't in their towncore? I have only heard civ reads for the both of them. If you would like we can add them back to the pool but I thought we should narrow it down as small as possible, seeing as how important it is we get a mafia out.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:54 pm Role-claiming and info-dumping are prohibited in this game unless otherwise specified in the roles.

Doc can't roleclaim. But I do want to hear from cop today

Is doc allowed to say who they protected or role-claim? I thought that's against the rules

Wish I could say more but honestly I don't have too strong opinions on any of them. GTH I say Lucy is bad.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:39 pm There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean

This is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:

Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate

I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to

Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints

Doc is carrying oh my lord. Hooray!

Golden despite showing that he's here contributed less than I would've liked for him to in this final conversation but that's neither here nor there.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:38 pm Lucy what do you mean 'makes me think hes wrong'? Wrong about what?
everything

my first game i was shafted because i was very right and got no influence, and the following game i was very wrong and i had a lot of influence

these games were 2 years ago so it took me a second to remember, but i believe you are in the second category this game

which would make your degree of influence logica

Why does two games from 2 years ago relate to now? Sorry if I'm coming off curt or whatever but I tend to get like this under time limits.

By the way Lucy pointing out how much influence I have very much could spell out my demise this night. Maybe not now that I'm pointing it out but that's the point of making this post. No kill plz

Lucy what do you mean 'makes me think hes wrong'? Wrong about what?

Okay who I'm most similar to doesn't matter right now unless you wanna explain to me why it does.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:27 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:26 pm He is gifted and talented. Scores off the charts on everything he attempts. Kinda scary smart.
i know, i'm no different from him, using myself as a metric and it's still never happened to me
Probably the difference is that a few people in the thread know him or know him through me. Also, he's a bit of a legacy player, as in like 2nd generation, if that were to exist in mafia.

But it's not like I'm being dragged into conversations or anything, I'm trying to start or get involved in conversations when I can. So does the question become who should be starting conversations and I've replaced that?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:26 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:23 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:48 pm I like how I'm talking as if I know what I'm doing lol
this post got me very fucking suspicious of threadstate

this is dennis's first game of mafia

he has more influence than most players playing for over 10+ years or so

i find that extremely strange
He is gifted and talented. Scores off the charts on everything he attempts. Kinda scary smart.

This is like the fourth time you've shown me off this game.

I was feeling cocky when I said that, I don't know if I really have that much influence. But if you're right, who do you think SHOULD have more? Like, who is someone who generally has more thread presence than me that doesn't?

This thread is scarily quiet for being half an hour before EoD. And I don't think having two pretty clean people here will result in that much progress.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:14 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:53 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:46 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:35 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.
Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.
This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:00 am The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.
This is analysis and I like it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 am I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.
I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.
For me, it's getting to the point where it's a numbers game. Not too far back I posted a list of the players that most townie-ish players believe to be the most likely wolf. Of those people we pared it down and the consensus ended on him.

I like your post and I can see why he appears civvie, I don't see anything overtly civ tbh other than your last point. That post does look townie talking about what could be wolf strategy but it's not unheard of. In face our host Gman did it to me in the last game regarding an OT green curse that the baddies controlled and that HE placed on me.
That's what I was saying; it's not these posts in particular, it's more in general he feels townie. And it's not like I'm 100 percent sure, he could still be wolf. I just don't see any baddie intentions.
Well does anyone really SEEM wolfy? That's the whole trick to being a wolf. Golden snowed the everloving hell out of me last game. Far more than I can even explain here, and I've know him for about 15 years?

I'm saying there's better options, in my opinion. He feels more genuine-townie. Seanzie, or Falcon, or maybe Mata would make more sense to me.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:46 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:35 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.
Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.
This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:00 am The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.
This is analysis and I like it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 am I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.
I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.
For me, it's getting to the point where it's a numbers game. Not too far back I posted a list of the players that most townie-ish players believe to be the most likely wolf. Of those people we pared it down and the consensus ended on him.

I like your post and I can see why he appears civvie, I don't see anything overtly civ tbh other than your last point. That post does look townie talking about what could be wolf strategy but it's not unheard of. In face our host Gman did it to me in the last game regarding an OT green curse that the baddies controlled and that HE placed on me.

That's what I was saying; it's not these posts in particular, it's more in general he feels townie. And it's not like I'm 100 percent sure, he could still be wolf. I just don't see any baddie intentions.

I like how I'm talking as if I know what I'm doing lol

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:39 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:38 pm I'm 98% sure at least one wolf is on Soneji, I wouldn't be surprised if there was 2.
Why? The wolves have had their choice of many wagons today. Who do you think they’re protecting my putting possibly two wolves on it?

Themselves. If they go off by themselves and stack onto another person it's suspicious.

I'm 98% sure at least one wolf is on Soneji, I wouldn't be surprised if there was 2.

Soneji wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.

Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.

This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:00 am The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.

This is analysis and I like it.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 am I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.

I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.

I want the Soneji wagon to explain because I haven't seen much of anything anti town about their posts and I'm not crazy about sitting back when someone I think is civ is being elimed.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:36 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:49 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:22 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:16 pm People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.
I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.
Rabbits lost game had 50 people! All kinds of different threads and location based chats. That was a lot of fun and very innovative, like your Survivor game. All those trivia challenges, they were hard.
rabbits lost game I think I missed it but I'm not surprised. The Piano had some huge ones too. Ah the good times, great memories.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:53 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:47 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:42 pm [VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine
why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.
Do you find the Neon wagon getting traction? No? Then me moving to someone else makes sense, no?
At least you are consistent. I totes disagree with it but it seems to be consistent for you.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:18 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:47 pm done for now gtg get dinner and walk Bear
Every time you say this I think of SVS
it's funny bc every time I post a picture or story about Bear i, too, think of her lmao

I cannot in good conscious vote Soneji as I have agreed with some of what they said. I am a bit pinged by falcon with side eye to Scotty. Think I'm gonna vote falcon. But I have a bit more time.

What did you think is suspicious about Falcon?

Vote count

Spoiler: show

Roxy, Splints, and Soneji all feel civ to me. I wouldn't be too surprised if Lucy/Mata/Falcon was the mafia.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:53 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:50 pm Runaway wagon bad.

Thread state bad.

Even if Soneji flips wolfu bad
Thread state is great.

I think there’s a decent chance our PoE is literally at five. Add on that we still have two living cops, the only way one isn’t getting data each night is of one is blocked and one protected on the same night.

Feels like you’re playing mountainous. This isn’t mountainous. The power roles are all very strong.

What is your PoE at then?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:27 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:25 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:21 pm @Dennis why are you on Falc?
I TR Soneji and I thought we were between Falcon and Soneji. Choosing from your list of 4, I would be most comfortable voting Mata.
Your free to vote anyone you don't need to follow the leader

I take it you have some reason to suspect Falcon can you go into why more?

I'm still thinking we need a consensus, kinda gotta follow the leader because I'm not certain enough to start a push against anyone. Falcon was more scummy to me, I don't like how he would just hop on wagons completely out of nowhere then dissappear. Also he asked good questions, but what did he actually do with the info he got?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:21 pm @Dennis why are you on Falc?

I TR Soneji and I thought we were between Falcon and Soneji. Choosing from your list of 4, I would be most comfortable voting Mata.

Maybe a break would help just about everyone here. Remember that we have an extra 45 minutes before EoD. I obviously can't make you do anything but clearly everyone is getting angry and all that does is 1. Make just about any game no fun and 2. Gets in the way of our reads.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:03 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.
I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?
Yeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?
I was trying to see if you felt that his behavior would have been different WITH the added pressure of a baddie chatroom. Youre essentially reversing my point.

To be clear: I think if Jack had a baddie role, he would have tried harder because of the pressure of teammates in a chat. Therefore, I find it unlikely Jack was bad.

I agree, if Jack had a wolf role he would have tried more. Now I'm just confused. Where did we get mixed up?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:00 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:57 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.
The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.
I don't feel that neon's behavior has been wolfy. Others feel differently so I was going back to jack to try to sure up my feelings on the slot. I figured who better to try to do that than you and me?

Yeah... that's my point. You know as well as I do Jack wasn't a very willing participant. Having you, who is in practically everyone's towncore, attest that Jack's behavior wasn't influenced by his role would help prove Neon's towniness, no?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:54 pm Allow me to explain my frustration a bit

Ever since my wolf game I've been getting called a wolf no matter how hard I obv town. Okay I'm a good wolf I'll say it but that doesn't mean blindly ignore the behavior in front of you. The paranoia is frustrating. At least when Mac said what he said in that quote there was a reason for it I eod things that were decidedly anti town. I haven't here and still I'm being pushed.

But than I'm not even being pushed for MY play I'm being pushed because a new player who didn't like the game subbed out and Sean has decided that automatically makes them a wolf. I don't think you should be allowed to read into anyone but my play. I think subs should be judged on their track record. Sean has spent the last page and a half saying Jack behaved like a new wolf. The fixation on Jack is frustrating especially because I think that's all Sean can say because their reasons for pushing me on my play were weak and they don't hold water. So now I'm forced to defend myself against the mental of a person I am not because Sean is trying to read into their mental state and it is a physical impossibility for me to defend myself on that and Sean knows it.

The fixation on Jack is also ridiculous seeing as how I've said multiple times he didn't like it. @Kate , what are you doing? Help me out here.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:46 pm Ok. I'm moving my vote to [VOTE: soneji] aubergine

Thoughts?

I disagree. I've agreed with a lot of what Soneji has said and most of the time it feels like there's a civ motivation. Since we seemingly have left it up to Soneji and Falcon, I'm gonna [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

All I have seen from Seanzie in the past 24 hours has been riling up Neon.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:06 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?
I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.
I don't think you understand how hard it is to be wolf. Some people are naturals, but many people can barely post until they've done it a few times, and no matter how hard you try, you get severe writersblock as a wolf unless you experienced/a natural/get into the groove. You can't tryhard out of writers block usually.

Well, obviously I don't know. I've never been one. I'm saying Jack didn't care about the game. It's that simple. He didn't really even want to sign up, we took like 20 minutes convincing him, and Kate can attest to that. Him not posting was him literally not playing, first and foremost. If he didn't want to say something because he was a wolf that was not his priority.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:01 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:56 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:53 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:48 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:26 pm Neon's response to pressure - bad
I do agree with this but I don't know if it particularly means anything. I think Neon's getting upset but, so what? We all handle pressure differently, and if Neon gets angry when she's being pressured for a weird reason I don't see why that means anything.
It's honestly not that bad. People kill people for "over reacting" to pressure all the time and there's often a 50% chance they flip town. And not a single person here besides you has even bothered to question what my normal reaction to pressure is.
I think that was my point. The way you react to pressure is normal and NAI. Unless someone who's played with Neon when she was civ and mafia can compare the two? But my point was the way you're reacting doesn't mean anything to me. I'm paying attention to content, not to tone.
It’s the content that’s bad, Wild Dennis.

How so?

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:54 pm Wombmate?

I called him 'wowbie' once and I regret just about everything from that moment onwards.

wombie. I can spell

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:54 pm Wombmate?

I called him 'wowbie' once and I regret just about everything from that moment onwards.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:54 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:53 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:48 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:26 pm Neon's response to pressure - bad
I do agree with this but I don't know if it particularly means anything. I think Neon's getting upset but, so what? We all handle pressure differently, and if Neon gets angry when she's being pressured for a weird reason I don't see why that means anything.
It's honestly not that bad. People kill people for "over reacting" to pressure all the time and there's often a 50% chance they flip town. And not a single person here besides you has even bothered to question what my normal reaction to pressure is.
To be frank. Yes I'd react this way as wolf. I also react this way as town.

This my friends is NAI.

Is this a Linki moment? That's what I said in my last post.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:53 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:48 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:26 pm Neon's response to pressure - bad
I do agree with this but I don't know if it particularly means anything. I think Neon's getting upset but, so what? We all handle pressure differently, and if Neon gets angry when she's being pressured for a weird reason I don't see why that means anything.
It's honestly not that bad. People kill people for "over reacting" to pressure all the time and there's often a 50% chance they flip town. And not a single person here besides you has even bothered to question what my normal reaction to pressure is.

I think that was my point. The way you react to pressure is normal and NAI. Unless someone who's played with Neon when she was civ and mafia can compare the two? But my point was the way you're reacting doesn't mean anything to me. I'm paying attention to content, not to tone.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:47 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:46 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:41 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?
I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.
That's the thing, he is no stranger to discord so if he had an actual chat with people in it do you think he'd avoid it or try to play along?
Is this not an actual chat with people in it? Are you all figments of my imagination?

I don't understand your question. Do you mean if he played with people he doesn't know? Because he would probably avoid that.
The baddies are assigned a chat room where they conduct their btsc. So if he were bad, he would have gotten a link to that discord chatroom.

If he was in a Discord chat with people, he would probably feel weird NOT playing along. So I think it's more civ how Jack had little to nothing said, if you look at it a certain way.

Does that answer your question?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:26 pm Neon's response to pressure - bad

I do agree with this but I don't know if it particularly means anything. I think Neon's getting upset but, so what? We all handle pressure differently, and if Neon gets angry when she's being pressured for a weird reason I don't see why that means anything.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:41 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?
I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.
That's the thing, he is no stranger to discord so if he had an actual chat with people in it do you think he'd avoid it or try to play along?

Is this not an actual chat with people in it? Are you all figments of my imagination?

I don't understand your question. Do you mean if he played with people he doesn't know? Because he would probably avoid that.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:31 pm @Dennis what do you think about your wombmate? Think he couldn't handle the pressure of the game or couldn't handle the pressure of being bad?

I don't think he could handle the pressure of the game. He probably saw it as a glorified Among Us (wish I was joking) but with way more thinking and with a bunch of smart people. Absolutely 0 of his posts made me feel either way about him. If he was bad I would argue he would've tried harder. I'm handling Neon with 0 bias from Jack, basically as if a person joined the game later than the rest of us.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:15 pm I think we're looking at neon/kate/???

This feels like the climax of a show lol. But, entertaining this idea for a minute, wouldn't this put SVS in a pretty weird spot? She's been clearing Kate a lot and she's generally regarded as civ so that means, in this world, it's potentially Neon/Kate/S~V~S.

But I don't like this, it feels way too sudden and I need more explanation.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:15 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy

D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon

Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy
I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...
To go further into what I personally think we can get out of this and what I'm looking at personally when I analyze the raw data

I think there's never more than 1 wolf that votes on both maj wagons so at most there's one in Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

I TR SVS and Lucy so I think at most one in Sean and Golden and would you look at that this last page solidified that for me lol. It's possible it's none though.

I think there's 1 on Wilgz at least but probably exactly one unless Sean is wolf. Which is one in golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy. Which continues that same trend.

Regardless of Sean's alignment I think there's no more than one in Kate Myself and Scotty and probably exactly one in all scenarios.

I think there's a wolf in the 8 who have never has a vote at EoD which is just duh Level analysis but whatever at least one in Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

At most one in the group who have never made a stand Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy.

I think there's only ever one in Kate, Scotty, Mata

And i think Dennis might be the deep wolf and if Sean flips Red I'm going all in on Dennis.

Is that analysis enough for you Sean?

Ok yeah Neon's town.

What makes you think I'm the deepwolf, even in a town!Seanzie world?

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