Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

[robyn]

if anyone wants to real-time i’m here

[Dennis]

Runaway wagon bad.

Thread state bad.

Even if Soneji flips wolfu bad

Thread state is great.

I think there’s a decent chance our PoE is literally at five. Add on that we still have two living cops, the only way one isn’t getting data each night is of one is blocked and one protected on the same night.

Feels like you’re playing mountainous. This isn’t mountainous. The power roles are all very strong.

What is your PoE at then?

[Golden]

I am in meetings basically all the way from here until eod so I’m not likely to be about much.

[Golden]

Runaway wagon bad.

Thread state bad.

Even if Soneji flips wolfu bad

Thread state is great.

I think there’s a decent chance our PoE is literally at five. Add on that we still have two living cops, the only way one isn’t getting data each night is of one is blocked and one protected on the same night.

Feels like you’re playing mountainous. This isn’t mountainous. The power roles are all very strong.

What is your PoE at then?

Soneji, Roxy, mata, splints, Falcon. Scotty is looking in nervously.

[Golden]

Also when I say ‘the power roles are all very strong’ I mean on both sides of the fence. Every town power role lost is bad, every mafia power role elimmed is massive. I think the outcome of this game swings heavily around them.

[Golden]

And ranking my PoE at the moment, I feel slightly better right now about splints and Roxy than the other three.

[Roxy]

i like u @Roxy

no u

[fingersplints]

@fingersplints

tell me about Neon.

Tell you what about them?

[Golden]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

[Roxy]

seanzie is not really helping anyone at this point they are hindering the thread imo. Humble as can be. I have read seanzie from D 1 as town. Neon is making me doubt myself. Gonna read back on seanzie.

it's only a hinderance if I'm wrong.

No it's a hindrance either way because you are derailing the thread regardless and burying info

It's more of a hindrance though because you are wrong.

I also think it's hindering other substantive talk that could have been had. I am left out constantly and no one remembers my posts bc they are in the middle of a battle royale! (anyone remember Map's game from Rev? so fun!)

[Roxy]

@fingersplints

tell me about Neon.

Tell you what about them?

*pic of Rox smoking*

[Roxy]

My post is bc I am excited to be in thread with splints!

[Kate]

seanzie is not really helping anyone at this point they are hindering the thread imo. Humble as can be. I have read seanzie from D 1 as town. Neon is making me doubt myself. Gonna read back on seanzie.

it's only a hinderance if I'm wrong.

No it's a hindrance either way because you are derailing the thread regardless and burying info

It's more of a hindrance though because you are wrong.

I also think it's hindering other substantive talk that could have been had. I am left out constantly and no one remembers my posts bc they are in the middle of a battle royale! (anyone remember Map's game from Rev? so fun!)

What was the theme?

[Roxy]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

[Roxy]

seanzie is not really helping anyone at this point they are hindering the thread imo. Humble as can be. I have read seanzie from D 1 as town. Neon is making me doubt myself. Gonna read back on seanzie.

it's only a hinderance if I'm wrong.

No it's a hindrance either way because you are derailing the thread regardless and burying info

It's more of a hindrance though because you are wrong.

I also think it's hindering other substantive talk that could have been had. I am left out constantly and no one remembers my posts bc they are in the middle of a battle royale! (anyone remember Map's game from Rev? so fun!)

What was the theme?

Battle Royale lol

[fingersplints]

@Roxy come back and play with me! I miss you

Gosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!

Wenches goin’ t’ be walkin’ the plank
Argh

Video chat soon kk

[Golden]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

That’s true we did have lots of people.

[fingersplints]

My post is bc I am excited to be in thread with splints!

you know what I just thought of randomly? Remember that creepy ass police station in the middle of no where you picked me up from that time?!?! Lmao

Sorry getting distracted by fun memories

I’ve never been more convinced Rox is town. Nothing would make me vote her at this point lol

I also think Golden is very wrong, but likely town. He has mentioned the “tin foiling” and what not, and ok putting those kind of theories in the thread could be easy to fake. And I mean he overthinks regardless of alliance but it’s got this crazed paranoia tone to it that is harder to fake and I believe is likely genuine.

[Seanzie]

@fingersplints

tell me about Neon.

Tell you what about them?

Your take on them in this game.

[Kate]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

That’s true we did have lots of people.

The last game I hosted had 18 civs, 8 mafia over 2 teams, 2 independents and a serial killer.

[fingersplints]

@fingersplints

tell me about Neon.

Tell you what about them?

Your take on them in this game.

I won’t hold their previous players inactivity against them. I didn’t have a read on that player and I don’t have strong feels on them either way yet. Specifically no reason to town read whereas there are plenty I feel alright about so they might make PoE by default. They seem kind of upset as of late, and I feel sorry for them because I understand that frustration of being misunderstood in the thread

[Roxy]

I have come to the conclusion that Neon vs Seanzie is townie vs townie. Could I be wrong - yep I probs am but I wish the topic would not have shifted to low posters. What has been gained? I see no red flags. Bea is asking for a replacement. Mata asking for replacement. Rox hating the semi mean game thread. splints playing catch up. Her only real feel felt like Mata or Lucy. falcon posted more than me a lot of one liners, do not agree with half of what they say. Soneji like the tone and feel of their posts. Agree with more than not.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

[Roxy]

My post is bc I am excited to be in thread with splints!

you know what I just thought of randomly? Remember that creepy ass police station in the middle of no where you picked me up from that time?!?! Lmao

Sorry getting distracted by fun memories

I’ve never been more convinced Rox is town. Nothing would make me vote her at this point lol

I also think Golden is very wrong, but likely town. He has mentioned the “tin foiling” and what not, and ok putting those kind of theories in the thread could be easy to fake. And I mean he overthinks regardless of alliance but it’s got this crazed paranoia tone to it that is harder to fake and I believe is likely genuine.

Yes it was right out of a Steven King or Dean Koontz novel lol so friggin' scary and weird. One of these days you are gonna get where you are going quickly with a fully charged phone/gps lolololololol

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

That’s true we did have lots of people.

The last game I hosted had 18 civs, 8 mafia over 2 teams, 2 independents and a serial killer.

I had 35 in my Survivor game which was my last hosting gig there.

[Roxy]

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.

[Roxy]

done for now gtg get dinner and walk Bear

[S~V~S]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

Rabbits lost game had 50 people! All kinds of different threads and location based chats. That was a lot of fun and very innovative, like your Survivor game. All those trivia challenges, they were hard.

[Dennis]

Roxy, Splints, and Soneji all feel civ to me. I wouldn't be too surprised if Lucy/Mata/Falcon was the mafia.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.

Do you find the Neon wagon getting traction? No? Then me moving to someone else makes sense, no?

[Dennis]

Vote count

Spoiler: show

bea
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dennis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
1
8%
Voters: Dennis
fingersplints
2
15%
Voters: Scotty, Seanzie
Golden
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
lucy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Matahari
1
8%
Voters: fingersplints
Neon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
2
15%
Voters: Neon, Soneji
Soneji
5
38%
Voters: Golden, falcon45ca, lucy, S~V~S, Kate

[Golden]

My post is bc I am excited to be in thread with splints!

you know what I just thought of randomly? Remember that creepy ass police station in the middle of no where you picked me up from that time?!?! Lmao

Sorry getting distracted by fun memories

I’ve never been more convinced Rox is town. Nothing would make me vote her at this point lol

I also think Golden is very wrong, but likely town. He has mentioned the “tin foiling” and what not, and ok putting those kind of theories in the thread could be easy to fake. And I mean he overthinks regardless of alliance but it’s got this crazed paranoia tone to it that is harder to fake and I believe is likely genuine.

What do you think I’m very wrong about specifically?

[Golden]

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.

Sean’s neon case linked splints as her teammate.

[Golden]

done for now gtg get dinner and walk Bear

Every time you say this I think of SVS

[fingersplints]

My post is bc I am excited to be in thread with splints!

you know what I just thought of randomly? Remember that creepy ass police station in the middle of no where you picked me up from that time?!?! Lmao

Sorry getting distracted by fun memories

I’ve never been more convinced Rox is town. Nothing would make me vote her at this point lol

I also think Golden is very wrong, but likely town. He has mentioned the “tin foiling” and what not, and ok putting those kind of theories in the thread could be easy to fake. And I mean he overthinks regardless of alliance but it’s got this crazed paranoia tone to it that is harder to fake and I believe is likely genuine.

What do you think I’m very wrong about specifically?

Your continued suspicion on me for starters

[fingersplints]

I say “for starters” but that is pretty much the main thing I know that you are wrong about so whatever

[Golden]

My post is bc I am excited to be in thread with splints!

you know what I just thought of randomly? Remember that creepy ass police station in the middle of no where you picked me up from that time?!?! Lmao

Sorry getting distracted by fun memories

I’ve never been more convinced Rox is town. Nothing would make me vote her at this point lol

I also think Golden is very wrong, but likely town. He has mentioned the “tin foiling” and what not, and ok putting those kind of theories in the thread could be easy to fake. And I mean he overthinks regardless of alliance but it’s got this crazed paranoia tone to it that is harder to fake and I believe is likely genuine.

What do you think I’m very wrong about specifically?

Your continued suspicion on me for starters

Well to fair more recently I’m saying that of my PoE you are feeling more townie to me.

[Kate]

Splints I'm glad y9u and Roxy came by today, so glad!

[fingersplints]

It’s already midnight, and I might just fall asleep any moment now because I’m all old now and what not
So I’ll [VOTE: soneji] aubergine
And hope for the best. Will try to stay up as long as I can

[Golden]

It’s already midnight, and I might just fall asleep any moment now because I’m all old now and what not
So I’ll [VOTE: soneji] aubergine
And hope for the best. Will try to stay up as long as I can

You forgot to actually change your vote.

[Roxy]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

Rabbits lost game had 50 people! All kinds of different threads and location based chats. That was a lot of fun and very innovative, like your Survivor game. All those trivia challenges, they were hard.

rabbits lost game I think I missed it but I'm not surprised. The Piano had some huge ones too. Ah the good times, great memories.

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.

Do you find the Neon wagon getting traction? No? Then me moving to someone else makes sense, no?

At least you are consistent. I totes disagree with it but it seems to be consistent for you.

done for now gtg get dinner and walk Bear

Every time you say this I think of SVS

it's funny bc every time I post a picture or story about Bear i, too, think of her lmao

I cannot in good conscious vote Soneji as I have agreed with some of what they said. I am a bit pinged by falcon with side eye to Scotty. Think I'm gonna vote falcon. But I have a bit more time.

[Roxy]

now I am back to Scotty maybe Mata. Ugh the frustration is real the more I read the less sure I am bc of the sabi debacle.

[Roxy]

vote Scotty f it I'll be out here by myself, it is my strongest susp so imma go with it and call it a night. again no one engages.

[Roxy]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

That’s true we did have lots of people.

The last game I hosted had 18 civs, 8 mafia over 2 teams, 2 independents and a serial killer.

did I play it? what was it?

[Kate]

vote Scotty f it I'll be out here by myself, it is my strongest susp so imma go with it and call it a night. again no one engages.

I've got him in my PoE.

[Golden]

vote Scotty f it I'll be out here by myself, it is my strongest susp so imma go with it and call it a night. again no one engages.

I don’t think this is an unreasonable choice

[Dennis]

People don’t know how quiet our threads used to be. It was much easier for low posters like Roxy and mata to keep up and contribute even without masses of time.

I never felt they were quiet bc we always had SVS and you plus LC, Map, LT, Enrique, too many to list. Our games were 20, 30 40 people. Threads were crazy. My Survivor game had 4 threads that were all busy.

Rabbits lost game had 50 people! All kinds of different threads and location based chats. That was a lot of fun and very innovative, like your Survivor game. All those trivia challenges, they were hard.

rabbits lost game I think I missed it but I'm not surprised. The Piano had some huge ones too. Ah the good times, great memories.

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.

Do you find the Neon wagon getting traction? No? Then me moving to someone else makes sense, no?

At least you are consistent. I totes disagree with it but it seems to be consistent for you.

done for now gtg get dinner and walk Bear

Every time you say this I think of SVS

it's funny bc every time I post a picture or story about Bear i, too, think of her lmao

I cannot in good conscious vote Soneji as I have agreed with some of what they said. I am a bit pinged by falcon with side eye to Scotty. Think I'm gonna vote falcon. But I have a bit more time.

What did you think is suspicious about Falcon?

[Dennis]

I want the Soneji wagon to explain because I haven't seen much of anything anti town about their posts and I'm not crazy about sitting back when someone I think is civ is being elimed.

[Kate]

I want the Soneji wagon to explain because I haven't seen much of anything anti town about their posts and I'm not crazy about sitting back when someone I think is civ is being elimed.

Why do you think he's so civ?

[Dennis]

The logical assumption is that someone includes themselves among their towncore by default so it's unnecessary and potentially performative to list themselves, because either they know they're town from their rolecard, or they know they need to fake being town from their rolecard. One doesn't normally include themselves in readslist as they cannot make a read on their own alignment which is a known factor to them, and either they know they're town or need to fake it. The need for anti-town to fake being town is what subconsciously can cause them to want to project "I AM TOWN" at every opportunity, hence listing themselves in towncores/townreads lists. It is common enough for actual townies, especially from certain site cultures, to list themselves in such things so it's not a hard wolf tell, but it can be a soft tell when alongside other performative town projection examples.

Why would Soneji defend Neon with a after she got called out for adding herself in her towncore? Especially bringing into the equation of different site cultures doesn't make any sense if Soneji is wolf and Neon is town, when it seemed like (to me) that Golden was suspicious of Neon.

If you ask me a joke of a question, you're going to get a joke of an answer.

This is just shutting down conversations that were off topic.

The first group is rightly calling for accountability from the Wilgy voters, while the second has every reason to not want to rock the boat. Dennis is a newbie, what narrative is he going to try and control? Plus several players rushed to proclaim him townie for his EoD. Seanzie just narrowly escaped the noose, of course they'd avoid a thunder dome. SVS does look good from how they explained their vote, and how they wanted a tie.

This is analysis and I like it.

I'm still reading through parts of the thread but I want to bring forth a thought on the set-up that could certainly have an effect on wolves mindset in this game. I didn't see wolves win condition listed anywhere but assuming it's to reach vote parity, or even just killing all town, then so long as all three members are alive then they win as soon as there are only five town members left due to being able to vote silence two townies each night. At that point town can only tie elim votes, so has no path to winning. So more than normal wolves will want to ensure all members make it to endgame, and keeping the Lawyer alive is top priority as even with just one other wolf they lower the number needed for vote parity. Bussing is very unlikely, and hard defenses of packmates very likely.

I don't think a wolf would bring this up, because why explain your strategy to the entire thread?

I dunno, it's just all of their posts in general I agree with but these were a few examples. Maybe in the 3rd one I'm being convinced by them explaining I don't know what I'm doing still but other than that it's just everything. Now please answer my question.

[Dennis]

I'm 98% sure at least one wolf is on Soneji, I wouldn't be surprised if there was 2.