The Syndicate

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Tis' a pity that the last voting option is such a landmine.

I suppose I need to vote.

I would not press the "we won" option until there were at most 2 people left.

Mn.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:45 pm Well, I'll probably die tonight, robyn, so you won't need to worry about me voting you again. It's actually good that I die, to let a town power role live.

This is a slip?

Seriously?

Don't you guys have anything better to do?

The "rate of wolves dying". Yeah I'm sure robyn was responsible for marmot dying by inactivity. I'm not particularly sure what's going in this game but you would've thought wolves straight up gave up so far.

There's very little utility in knowing WWA is town or Marmot is wolf.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:59 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:58 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

No we didn't, we got 1 clear for 1 town at best.

read the legacy, clears wwa and long con, and flips marmot red

You're terrible at this.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

No we didn't, we got 1 clear for 1 town at best.

"Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

Nook, you've claimed to be good at reading half the lobby, and the game's still about as unsolved as a baked potato.

There's something I don't get.

We're doing the alarm gamble again.

No some people have been pursuing disinformation and I'm not sure whether its willful ignorance or what.

Forgive me for the setup speculation but I also don't actually believe there are two mafia teams? I'd be more inclined to the idea of there being a solo faction or some type of neutral-but-not-really faction.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:56 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:49 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:53 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:08 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:20 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:17 am Like we can reasonably safely flip porscha and [n1 kill I'm completely blanking on and too lazy to check for] green, or not mafia at least and that's all I care about rn

Then we just build worlds and eliminate as many teams and pairings as possible, ID the most and least likely ones, and work off of that.

Easier said than done of course but that's how you typically solve flipless games and this one is no different.

Cape and Porscha were town, yeah

And yes but I solve flipless games by making assumptions on the ones who didn't flip, too. You can tell me it's unnecessary but i personally would just be floating around aimlessly if I can't do that.

Let's play a game where you make the assumption that Scotty and Lily are town Bread can be either I don't care where does that lead you?

I am cause this is the world I'm thinking is most likely.

How many baddies on each team, in this world?

Each team? Is it openly stated somewhere that there are multiple teams?

Renters and government agents.

Can this be elaborated on?
Because to my knowledge I don't remember anyone taking the idea of multiball in any way seriously.
And in particular a multiball setup would change my view of the game regrading interactions.
I don't think I'm wrong when I say that most town in this game would not have been even thinking about multiball possibilities.

I think any votes on marmot wasted due to their impending death in all likelihood.

I am abivalent wrt to both S~V~S and Wilgy's alignment. They both are playing as if they don't know much about what is going on, but I'm not confident in saying either is town.

The Lime Coke voters were, in order: WindwardAway, Boquise, Robyn, EnderWiggin, Bereft

Porscha died for being universally townread.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:19 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:26 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:22 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:15 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:12 am @EnderWiggin what do you think of porscha atm?

Rereading eod I don't think she tries solving Brad like that as w/w?

Yes I'm partially flipping Brad's alignment for this.

But also Brad's last minute plea too.

Idk I have changed my mind.

I guess also my big sus on her was sorta built around "Brad town vote manip" which is debunked today tbh.

I don't think I need to color Brad red to lock porscha town atp, tbh. I think she's probably just town.

I'm currently kinda at wwa and bereft but I'm still way behind and have like 5 assignments due in 17.5 hours sooooo....do my legwork for me and tell me their alignment, pls?

You said I would self-resolve. This is disappointing behavior from you.

Yeah you self resolving requires me to read your posts which I haven't done yet

Or you posting a lot more which also hasn't happened so

Who's really to blame here

Based on your answer, you.

I was operating under the assumption that WWA was just theorizing about the two slankers having died for not voting but it's been confirmed by the OP now.
I would assume that Marmot had saved themselves by voting me randomly N1.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:22 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:15 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:12 am @EnderWiggin what do you think of porscha atm?

Rereading eod I don't think she tries solving Brad like that as w/w?

Yes I'm partially flipping Brad's alignment for this.

But also Brad's last minute plea too.

Idk I have changed my mind.

I guess also my big sus on her was sorta built around "Brad town vote manip" which is debunked today tbh.

I don't think I need to color Brad red to lock porscha town atp, tbh. I think she's probably just town.

I'm currently kinda at wwa and bereft but I'm still way behind and have like 5 assignments due in 17.5 hours sooooo....do my legwork for me and tell me their alignment, pls?

You said I would self-resolve. This is disappointing behavior from you.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:20 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:25 am Would preflip Lime Coke w and JOH, (S)yxxy v easily.

Why do you think Lime Coke is w?

In my past experiences playing with Lime Coke, he has been very aggressive when sussed as v, and yet he had no fire at EoD. It was a complement appeasement show towards Porscha, which, ignoring any supposed meta, is a very bad sign. But the kicker was that Lime Coke had no legacy when he was well-aware that he was going to die, and this is a player who normally tries very hard to defend their townreads, and is often theatrical about it. You saw this with how he was claiming that Porscha was town to dead players. So then it is incongruous that he did not make a legacy proclaiming anything to this effect.

Would preflip Lime Coke w and JOH, (S)yxxy v easily.

I thought Ender was defending Lime Coke earlier? Meh.

Between LC's return not being reassuring and the alternative being Marmot.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:22 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:16 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:09 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:57 pm Yes, that was the post I was referring to from Neon.

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:50 pm @Bereft uwu

operation coup?

As if I have the energy.

Would be fun though, you know I'm always around modulo availability.

do u have any sr’s

I sr Boq but not for any reason that I think isn't probably just due to their natural posting style.

i sr u for ur natural posting style

ur in favor of clipping an inactive? got a preference?

Not Marmot or JOH.

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:09 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:57 pm Yes, that was the post I was referring to from Neon.

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:50 pm @Bereft uwu

operation coup?

As if I have the energy.

Would be fun though, you know I'm always around modulo availability.

do u have any sr’s

I sr Boq but not for any reason that I think isn't probably just due to their natural posting style.

Yes, that was the post I was referring to from Neon.

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:50 pm @Bereft uwu

operation coup?

As if I have the energy.

Would be fun though, you know I'm always around modulo availability.

I would be asleep when the deadline happens, so I will set an alarm for right before, and either I am roused and I vote, or I don't.

Voting now feels like it will have no impact unless I vote Lime Coke, and in that case, Lime Coke will probably just solidify as the default chop candidate, and I cannot say I'm a fan of that for gamestate given so many hours left.

Hence the gamble.

Then why are you voting Long Con?

This is a rhetorical question, I'm well aware you scumread Long Con, but there's not much point in genuflecting about how anti-slanker you are if I cannot even remember that you encouraged other people to kill the slankers. Either that or my mind is having a filtering bias.

I will be back during the night phase.

I believe that given the number of slots giving the appearance of being less possible to read than my own, that is, Dr. Wilgy and pyxxy, Lime Coke and Nook, ..., that its probably better to sort the lowerposters until the morale improves.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:29 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:33 am Game *

Fuck phones

I wouldn't.

I would fuck one specific phone

this joke is really funny if you understand it

I understood it and then didn't even find it funny.

Think my WindwardAway vote from yesterday was a bust, but its pointless blaming myself given the information I had at the time.

Suddenly the point of having post restrictions apply over phase cycles and not just dayphases makes sense.

I will read the nightphase, but I'm not particularly expecting this to solidify my currently very amorphous view of the game right now. Since Long Con brought it up, I am the type of player to do a minimalist amount of analysis but I have been rather inundated with real life happenings recently and I don't expect to produce any serious work until much later.

Just as a possible discussion point though, what do people think of the Cape kill? I personally thought it was rather unexpected, and I think it suggests that the gamestate is very volatile; no one's been capable of leading town, and anyone who might even remotely have good reads has any influence.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:17 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:09 pm I don't get why you agree with me that lily was scum for not leaving a legacy when she was definitely aware she risked dying by Scott's hand, but everyone else is just like "maybe she's town and she forgot". Am I missing something?

This game is bereft of information. At some point, we are going to have to decide what the meager information we do have is telling us. I have decided that I believe Lily was a Wolf, and the lack of legacy fits that idea, to me.

Ha.

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:40 am i'm well within wolf range, and i'm gonna hold a 100% townread on schweppes/bereft, can you elaborate on boq and svs

i'm also fairly confident in ender being town

One of the three statements expressed in this post is false.

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:39 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:33 pm Would you like to revise your comment towards me then?

i just looked at wwa's posts, she has difficulty getting into the thread and the post i tr of hers at like 5am was P#195, which after not being near sleep looks fakeable. i'd go with her. my reasoning for svs is that while she hasn't done anything ai i've liked her posts & would like to play with her later. long con feels like the most towny for reasons i have said

wwa>svs>long con

This was rather disappointing given that all it did was express an ordering which I already knew you'd respond with/understand the reasoning for.
I don't think the thread has any sense either of where they want to go today besides Neon Abigail. I'm leaving the the thread completely blind as to the eventual outcome and so it would be nice if people gave some clues on where there head is at. Just putting an ordering tells me too little about how likely you find each choice.

I was unaware there was flavor. But Jack's posts have won them the funniest player award for me in a positive way.

I'd like to head out now. Presumably you all will sheep my not-actual-vote vote to glory when I'm gone, correct?

Would you like to revise your comment towards me then?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:11 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:09 pm It's been clarified to me that I don't get a takeback unfortunately, so now that means I'm just here to make post minimum probably though live interactions, but the thread just so happened to dry up.

Who would you be voting now if you could switch your vote?

Maybe Long Con?
SVS?

It feels like there are reasons to townread most of the other people who've posted.

I would vote Windward Away actually. It's a solid option given the lack of engagement from that slot even though nothing really pings me from them.

It's been clarified to me that I don't get a takeback unfortunately, so now that means I'm just here to make post minimum probably though live interactions, but the thread just so happened to dry up.

I'm going to keep pretending that I'm not pretending to townread Robyn.

For scheduling reasons I'd like to leave this thread rather early in comparison to the deadline. I don't have much of a choice but to not hold my vote.

I voted Scotty initially in the poll because their presence did not sit well with me. I found that Neon's perspective on the matter seemed to clarify my own feelings, and was reassured by the fact that they had the same reaction to Long Con's readslist post with respect to suspecting that Scotty and Long Con were teamed, which precipitated a vote since I was feeling somewhat confident. Lime Coke's claim that they normally found Scotty as town early but weren't doing so necessarily also factored into the level of confidence.

As of right now though, I'm no longer beholden to that view of the game after seeing the newer posts. I've not read any of the intervening content live, but I did like the sheer number of interactions and got the sense that people were figuring each other's alignment. That being said, I'm rather at a loss on who to vote.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:08 pm Host announcement: Since it is Day 1 and there seems to have been some confusion about the voting protocol Rondo is going to let those who did it incorrectly slide and accept your votes. Going forward, remember two things:

1. Votes are not movable
2. You need to vote in the thread with vote tags before you vote in the poll.

If you either move your vote, or you vote in the poll without voting in the thread with vote tags, your vote will be invalidated.

This is the 3rd time I've had egg on my face in a row.

I additionally realized I was at danger of not making post minimum.

I did not read the instructions and assumed normal voting procedure.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:57 am Bereft - Why have a different name when everyone is going to call you Schweppes anyway? Confusing at first. Seems pretty towny I guess.

Because of Robyn, we can't have nice things.
Because of Robyn, everyone's been informed that I'm Schweppes and everyone who knows me by that name will default to treating me like I'm Schweppes.
Because of Robyn, now the game has an added extra dimension of unknowable and unverifiable history from other mafia forums, buried discord servers and dms.
Because Robyn made post #15 personal in response to a completely impersonal post.

The one and only...

I made the decision to buy sugar cubes today for use in afternoon events