The Syndicate

Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:03 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.
how do i find myself agreeing with you so much now? this list is identical to the reads I gave yesterday apart from the last choice. i chose sprityo just cos he has this thing with epi and I think he said he had been protecting him every night but yeah that doesn’t indicate really anything

Also boo you.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:02 pm I consider the middle votes to be the civvie ones. As mafia I'll throw an early vote on a teammate and hope the day goes in a different direction way more often than I'll be the vote that solidifies them as the (or one of the) firm candidates.

Also, if I was so ready to bus Quin D1 and D4 why did it take me so long to vote him D5?

Don't give anybody credit for voting out Quin. He was a liability Day 1. No credit for anyone. Boo credit. Everyone remains a suspect.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:31 pm DAY 5

Spoiler: show
RDW - ID
Epi - ID
Speed - ID
Marmot - Bob
ID - RDW
DDL - ID
Speed - ID
DDL - Kites
DDl - Bob
Nutella - Quin
Marmot - Quin
Quin - Nutella
Sprityo - ID
DDL - Nutella
Epi - Sig
lapluie - Nutella
ID - Marmot
Bob - Kenway
DDL - Quin
Sig - Quin
Kites - Quin
Quin - ID
Speed - Quin
Gwilkers - Quin
Kyle - Quin
Epi - ID
Bob - Quin
lapluie - Quin

RDW
Epi
Speed
Marmot
ID
DDL
Speed
DDL
DDL
Nutella
Marmot
Quin
Sprityo
DDL
Epi
lapluie
ID
Bob
DDL
Sig
Kites
Quin
Speed
Gwilkers
Kyle
Epi
Bob
lapluie

Key:

Quin - Red
ID - Light Blue
Nutella - Green
Bob - Orange
Others - White

At last, the day where Quin finally met his end. Day 5.

The push in the beginning is for ID, led by RDW, Epi, Speed, and myself. Then Nutella brings back the Quin wagon, wanting to give it an end once and for all. Marmot follows.

Quin restarts his case on Nutella. I follow, together with lapluie.

The Quin lynch then gains traction, represented by me, Sig, Kites, Speed, Gwilkers and Kyle, in this order. If there is any civ cred to be warranted at this point, the first ones deserve it more than the last ones, but don't put too much stock on it. Quin does a self-defense vote on ID. Epi does a Quin-defense vote on ID too. Bob and lapluie change their votes to Quin after the deadline.

This is the 3rd time out of 3 that I see Bob make an opportunistic vote on Quin after other people started lynching him.

I don't want to lynch ID that much after this, and I'm now suspicious that baddies may have tried to push a lynch on him to make it easier to night kill him later. Heck, the civs themselves would have done it. Then again, bussing is a thing, and bussing on ID at this point is not hard.

RDW still bad.

Also guys, analyse this post:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:45 pm I have no reason not to vote Quin, but I'm going back to the Wizard of ID.

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine
"I have no reason not to vote for Quin but I'm gonna save Quin"

Epignosis, would you like to provide a linguistic analysis of this? Because I think it looks like a baddie trying to justify a bad-looking vote.

If I may criticize you, in a manner that you have similarly criticized me before, I would say that your analysis is treating this like there is one mafia. I get that you are (perhaps) looking for other mafia, but your analysis is weak to me because it assumes any vote and all votes that were not on Quin were to hide / save / whatever.

Quin has teammates. I believe Iron_Dwarf is one. His reaction to catching Quin was bogus. Hooray we caught a bad guy but fuck we lost a teammate and it isn't like his enthusiasm is translating into finding Quin's teammates.

The biggest mistake civilians make is assuming someone was being saved or that the lynch leads consisted of people of opposite alignments. Those are two huge mistakes rooted deeply in human psychology that I, as a gambler, take full advantage of.

Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:59 pm during drafting epi was suggested to give wyvern to rdw but he gave it to sig instead, scum mates tryna distance themselves from each other

Fuck suggestions.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:57 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:55 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 pm I want to know more about Epi's chat with sprit.
Effectively Masons with a protect because Mac died

RIP MacDougall
Not masons.

Neighbors.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

Huh. My role thing actually said "mason with you" but I was later informed I had no guarantee either MacDougall or sprityo were good. I always assumed "mason" = BTSC.

Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:17 pm epignosis defended quin multiple times
+ saving him from lynch on day 1
he was the most vocal player wanting JJJ dead, cos he didn’t like JJJ’s case on Quin
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 59#p410559
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 76#p410576
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 14#p411314
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 29#p411329

I saved him from the lynch on Day 1? I saved anybody and everybody from the lynch on Day 1. I didn't care who was up for being lynched.

Regarding JJJ, I already admitted I am a donkey. If I am a bad donkey though, and I was concerned about his treatment of Quin, I could have killed JJJ instead of putting forth the effort of lynching him. Or, since I rarely kill JJJ, I would have engaged him and got him to vote somewhere else.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:08 pm Epi doesn't look great here either. Not only he was the hand that ultimately saved Quin, but a seriously case for RDW bussing Epi can be made here. RDW, after creating the weapon that would destroy Nutella, washes his hands and votes for a teammate. Perfect day.

I don't care how I look. I'm cleared. If you don't agree, oh well.

I stopped the lynch to gain BTSC. That is one of the greatest advantages in Mafia, although I didn't know at the time that the people I would be teamed up with would not be confirmed. I pretended to care about how many votes I had at the time. I didn't care at all (though it is true that I didn't know if I would be around for the end of the Day). Stopping the Day 1 lynch was going to happen even if the entire Hand was going to be lynched and the game would be over and civilians would win.

I have no reason not to vote Quin, but I'm going back to the Wizard of ID.

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:39 am [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

There is just hardly a contribution. Seems like under the radar scum behavior.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:40 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:24 pm My vote still stands for nutella

[VOTE: NUTELLA ] aubergine
I might buy a ticket for this train though.

Do you have any convictions?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:21 pm Does anybody have a count? I just got home and frankly don't have enough brain power left to do much more today.

This.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:07 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:15 pmThe biggest reason to suspect Kenway is that he isn't interacting with you in BTSC.

sprityo almost went ham on my ass when Mac died. He's been a great communicator, and has looked genuine even when pressed. If I lose to that cat, I can live with that.

But if Kenway isn't talking to you, to me that sounds like he's not comfortable being in there with you.
idk. it's hard to say given that I have never played with him before, and he hasn't posted much (relatively) in the actual thread. He hasn't so much as peeked into btsc since he made his "teach me master" and "I am town" posts. I don't think he's even read my responses.

someone who's more familiar with him might have a better idea of how active he normally is in btsc. a civ mage kenway I would expect to at least come in and make sure we're not targeting the same players, but a mafia mage kenway might want to benefit his team by finding out my targets. I'm getting... neither of those.

If I were you, I'd lynch him.

If I were me, I'd lynch him.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

sig, whom have you killed?

Someone dispel the notion that, since all mafia are from the bad place, we can't narrow down who is bad by simply looking at the front page. I know this had to have been discussed, and I assume it can't be done, but I want to hear the conclusion.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:42 pm I have never once in my mafia career suspected someone just because they suspected me. We're not in fucking preschool.

Better than being in preschool fucking.

Anybody got a tally?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:12 pm while we're putting cards on the table.... kenway and I are also masons. we became mage-sons on day 3 and he's only checked in once to say "teach me master" and "I am town". he hasn't spoken to me or even checked back in since.

Jack has told me a few times that our having a masonic relationship doesn't guarantee that we're both civ, but that's led to some confusion for me, regarding background powers, because if Kenway could potentially be mafia but also have btsc with me wouldn't that make his civ background power (in the scenario where he's mafia) also just a real power? unless in that scenario the btsc were only supplied by my huge wizardly muscles and he would just be the recipient of it. except I was told we could just start up our btsc as soon as day 3 began, which implied that Kenway already knew about our oncoming btsc, so it must have also been part of his role background??? right?? or else i'd just seem like some random dude messaging him

The biggest reason to suspect Kenway is that he isn't interacting with you in BTSC.

sprityo almost went ham on my ass when Mac died. He's been a great communicator, and has looked genuine even when pressed. If I lose to that cat, I can live with that.

But if Kenway isn't talking to you, to me that sounds like he's not comfortable being in there with you.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:29 am So can we talk about why the scum night kill might have failed?

Fishing for information to make more strategic decisions when the next Night comes around.

Kenway, tell me about Iron_Dwarf and rundontwalk.

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:07 am @colonialbob Badguyia
@Epignosis cop? Who?

I don't care. I'm a civilian doctor who has BTSC. What do you make of that?

Iron_Dwarf and rundontwalk and colonialbob are bad. Let's go.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:04 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:02 am If speedchuck is good, then Marmot is good, and DDL I guess is good, and if I am good then sprityo is good.

That's five cleared. Move civilians.
This means JJJ got lynched with 0 mafia votes. I do not believe that for a second. Not with the trains being that close.

I'm fine with that assumption.

What's the vote tally?

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:59 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:56 am
Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:50 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:23 pm So a thing I was thinking: a mage could've reversed a doctor and made it a nightkill, yes?

Kenway what have you been up to?
Hello. I did something last night.
That's great, I'd love to hear all about it. What about the last two nights?
I did stuff too. I never miss a night action.

N1 - sig
N2 - sig, failed because he was flying
N3 - lapluie
N4 - lapluie

Why sig? Why lapluie?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:56 am
Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:50 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:23 pm So a thing I was thinking: a mage could've reversed a doctor and made it a nightkill, yes?

Kenway what have you been up to?
Hello. I did something last night.
That's great, I'd love to hear all about it. What about the last two nights?

What's your view on Iron_Dwarf and rundontwalk?

This game now has my full attention.

If speedchuck is good, then Marmot is good, and DDL I guess is good, and if I am good then sprityo is good.

That's five cleared. Move civilians.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.
Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.
We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.
....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatory
Yeah, I dumped Marmot on D4. DDL was my first check, back on N1

Can you give me the links?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.
Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.
We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.
....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatory

Super. I'm tired and lazy. Can you link to me where he did this?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.
Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.

We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.

I wholeheartedly believe Iron_Dwarf is bad. He's coasting. rundontwalk is as well. I'd prefer to lynch them.

I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:07 pm I mean on Day 3

Damn you. Beat me to my joke.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:07 pm Epi do you think its possible 6 civilians lynched Jay yesterday?

No. Impossible.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:57 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:56 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:37 pm I targeted Epignosis but failed.
With a kill, perhaps?
Nope, guess again.

What's your opinion on Iron_Dwarf and rundontwalk?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:37 pm I targeted Epignosis but failed.

With a kill, perhaps?

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:41 am Can we please lynch rundontwalk now?

The qualifications for being mafia are "He doesn't look good."
I am beautiful no matter what you say

Also I'm town

I don't believe you. Show it. Lynch mafia.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:38 am Fun and interactive, all those last minute changes...

Yet you've done nothing with all those fun and interactive last-minute changes.

[VOTE: Iron-Dwarf] aubergine

Kenway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:35 am Um, so the day ended? Sorry I wasn't here. For what it's worth I still think sig is scum.

Why do you think this?

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:52 pm
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:44 pm [VOTE: irondwarf] aubergine

He's scum
why?
100 percent sure

Teammates.

Good. Good good.

I have been burned out, but I'm going to muster the strength to turn this thing around.

Can we please lynch rundontwalk now?

The qualifications for being mafia are "He doesn't look good."

I will follow my bitch.

How's that for irony?

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

I don't have an opinion about either Wilgy or Quin. I will vote wherever sprityo votes.

Can someone summarize the points against both Wilgy and Quin?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:15 pm I mean, it doesn't matter if you are managing to lynch your suspect, what matters is if it looks like you have a suspect.

I had a suspect, and he got lynched, and I am a donkey.

Had I been correct, I might have been more motivated, but I'm not, and it doesn't help that I now basically have three jobs.

To be fair, I suspect rundontwalk more than I suspect you, and Iron Dwarf has crept past you also with that loaded question of his: What was the point in asking me why I was "throwing away" my vote on a guy who 'looks" like a civilian?

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:55 am Epi, why are you thowing away a vote on DDL who at the moment looks like he is the new supertown?

What a loaded question.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:03 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:55 am Epi, why are you thowing away a vote on DDL who at the moment looks like he is the new supertown?
What bothers me is that he basically threw the whole case away during Day 3 while he was using his energy to bring Jay down, now he's come back to me. It feels opportunistic.

I don't see how being the only vote against you and being the only voice against you is being opportunistic. It's decidedly not opportunistic.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:34 am there's no morals here this is an internet game.

I didn't say that there was.

I said DDL had no moral victory.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:17 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:42 pm My problem is that with Jay and Mac dead, the ratio of useful town players/useless load is at an all time low. This is how mafias win. Never mind that we also lost Dunya and got a less talkative player instead (no offense speed, but you don't lead the town the same way).

It was fun to tinfoil about Jay being bad, but now I wanna be more practical.
Yeah, no.

You don't get to have the moral victory here.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:17 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:32 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:26 pm I'm more suspicious of Epi after today.

I might ISO him.
Any outcome?
9/10 times I say I'll ISO someone I procrastinate it until the end of time
[VOTE: DDL] aubergine
this.

what did you mean by moral victory?

Oh.

All I mean is that DDL can't call civilians useless if he's going to be useless himself.

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