Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[Marmot]

And also eggplant.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

RDW is online now.

I feel like I can hear his franctic typing on Chatzy from the distance.

[Marmot]

RDW is online now.

I feel like I can hear his franctic typing on Chatzy from the distance.

I'll go check the chatzy and let you know.

[colonialbob]

I consider the middle votes to be the civvie ones. As mafia I'll throw an early vote on a teammate and hope the day goes in a different direction way more often than I'll be the vote that solidifies them as the (or one of the) firm candidates.

Also, if I was so ready to bus Quin D1 and D4 why did it take me so long to vote him D5?

[Kites]

My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.

how do i find myself agreeing with you so much now? this list is identical to the reads I gave yesterday apart from the last choice. i chose sprityo just cos he has this thing with epi and I think he said he had been protecting him every night but yeah that doesn’t indicate really anything

anyways what do you think of this? note that it was on day 2 when cbob was about to get lynched but for some reason it didn’t happen

most likely either
a) mafia saved cbob’s ass cos he is scum
b) someone, civ maybe, wanted drwhite dead instead

anyways someone might have a power like lynch redirector? it would probably require voting for the target so colin, dunya/speedchuck or rdw maybe for voting drwhite

this is just speculation btw

I can’t stop thinking about this
since no one has come forward and claimed responsibility or given any explanation for drwhite’s death I’m gonna assume it was mafia’s doing. I believe it wasn’t a passive power, but an active, like epignosis’ lynch stop. And a power like that couldn’t be just aimed at any player of your choice or it would be too op, so you’d have to vote your target
so of those 3, colin is civ and dead, dunya/speedchuck seems good also
[VOTE: rundontwalk] aubergine
I still want Bob dead but I don’t see that happening today

no one ever gave me thoughts about this theory

[Jackofhearts2005]

So I may have left the only copy of the promoted roles on a word file on my computer at home. I’ll send out promotes roles at around 6 pm. If you don’t get a pm from me in the next 10 min, assume you haven’t promoted yet.

[Kylemii]

So I may have left the only copy of the promoted roles on a word file on my computer at home. I’ll send out promotes roles at around 6 pm. If you don’t get a pm from me in the next 10 min, assume you haven’t promoted yet.

i would like to be promoted to sage sergeant

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I consider the middle votes to be the civvie ones. As mafia I'll throw an early vote on a teammate and hope the day goes in a different direction way more often than I'll be the vote that solidifies them as the (or one of the) firm candidates.

Also, if I was so ready to bus Quin D1 and D4 why did it take me so long to vote him D5?

Point taken, I don't know your meta as well as I'd like to.

As for your question, it's not exact science. Maybe you wanted to avoid the pattern. maybe you saw people's points about Kenway late and decided not to put your vote there. I think that, regardless of of your alignment, you didn't miss the deadline on purpose (Quin was doomed anyway so scum wouldn't have reason to wait). But I can see town and mafia motivations for voting for him late.

If it helps, my case on you is a tinfoil compared RDW. Epi is something in-between.

I just think the pattern is fishy, and I still don't like you surviving Day 2 for no reason or dodging my misdirect on Night 2.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.

how do i find myself agreeing with you so much now? this list is identical to the reads I gave yesterday apart from the last choice. i chose sprityo just cos he has this thing with epi and I think he said he had been protecting him every night but yeah that doesn’t indicate really anything

anyways what do you think of this? note that it was on day 2 when cbob was about to get lynched but for some reason it didn’t happen

most likely either
a) mafia saved cbob’s ass cos he is scum
b) someone, civ maybe, wanted drwhite dead instead

anyways someone might have a power like lynch redirector? it would probably require voting for the target so colin, dunya/speedchuck or rdw maybe for voting drwhite

this is just speculation btw

I can’t stop thinking about this
since no one has come forward and claimed responsibility or given any explanation for drwhite’s death I’m gonna assume it was mafia’s doing. I believe it wasn’t a passive power, but an active, like epignosis’ lynch stop. And a power like that couldn’t be just aimed at any player of your choice or it would be too op, so you’d have to vote your target
so of those 3, colin is civ and dead, dunya/speedchuck seems good also
[VOTE: rundontwalk] aubergine
I still want Bob dead but I don’t see that happening today

no one ever gave me thoughts about this theory

It's possible, since increasing vote power is one way to manipulate a lynch and I think mafia is more likely to have that than 2 lynch stops/redirects.

But I'm cautious of using Epi/RDW/Bob to call each others' alignments when they are still all alive. It's easy to think we just solved the whole game. I've waited till now to look at Quin for that reason.

[sprityo]

Hey guys Quin killed a Mac

Remember he tried saying he didn’t submit an action?

[Kylemii]

Hey guys Quin killed a Mac

Remember he tried saying he didn’t submit an action?

was that the same night that gwilikers got redirected or a different night?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I just got my promoted role.

Should we reveal what those promoted roles do, or is it better to keep it hidden?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The more I look at Epi's vote on ID in day 5 the more I think it's too obvious a move for a baddie to make.

But I dunno, WIFOM.

[speedchuck]

The more I look at Epi's vote on ID in day 5 the more I think it's too obvious a move for a baddie to make.

But I dunno, WIFOM.

There's also the connection with Sprit. I'd rather look at others first.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

It's probably NAI, actually. Like Epi's vote didn't have a chance to make a big effect on the lynch.

So Epi looks neutral on all three day phases.

Which I suppose is to be expected from Epi since he is not bad in this game.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The more I look at Epi's vote on ID in day 5 the more I think it's too obvious a move for a baddie to make.

But I dunno, WIFOM.

There's also the connection with Sprit. I'd rather look at others first.

Yeah yeah.

Please don't tunnel on Epi, guys. Let's be careful here. We didn't just win the game from lynching Quin.

(RDW 99% scum tho).

[colonialbob]

The more I look at Epi's vote on ID in day 5 the more I think it's too obvious a move for a baddie to make.

But I dunno, WIFOM.

There's also the connection with Sprit. I'd rather look at others first.

Yeah yeah.

Please don't tunnel on Epi, guys. Let's be careful here. We didn't just win the game from lynching Quin.

(RDW 99% scum tho).

Yeah RDW should be tomorrow's object.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

bad AT this game*

I mean, in mafia as a whole

[rundontwalk]

The more I look at Epi's vote on ID in day 5 the more I think it's too obvious a move for a baddie to make.

But I dunno, WIFOM.

There's also the connection with Sprit. I'd rather look at others first.

Yeah yeah.

Please don't tunnel on Epi, guys. Let's be careful here. We didn't just win the game from lynching Quin.

(RDW 99% scum tho).

Yeah RDW should be tomorrow's object.

I'm not scum but since you killed Quin I won't fight it, it bought town time

Suggestions on who to protect tonight?

[rundontwalk]

Protecting epi.

Also sorry I went AWOL in game, got assigned ,, 20 page paper so if y'all want to kill me please put me out of my misery lol

[rundontwalk]

Also note that the Lynch of me will probably go very easy cause the 4 scum who know I'm not scum will obviously make things go smooth

[sprityo]

Also note that the Lynch of me will probably go very easy cause the 4 scum who know I'm not scum will obviously make things go smooth

Suuuure

[rundontwalk]

Also note that the Lynch of me will probably go very easy cause the 4 scum who know I'm not scum will obviously make things go smooth

Suuuure

Like for real. You have a voting block of 4 bad guys who are going to enjoy tomorrow because they can just attach themselves to misguided town

[rundontwalk]

Anyway, when I said I'm protecting epi I lied I'm actually protecting spirit

Or is it the other way around?

[rundontwalk]

This will be the last post I write:

I think Gwilly and Irondwarf are scum. I think gwilly pulled some great trick with his role claim

[rundontwalk]

Why would town have two abilities related to stopping lynches?

[Marmot]

The tough thing about rdw is that all the RYM games are gone so I can't go look up his old meta to compare to this. ;_;

[Marmot]

Why would town have two abilities related to stopping lynches?

Easy, they weren't given to the mafia.

We hand-selected our roles. The game was not balanced by the host.



Actually, I guess that depends on whether our secret powers were given to us because of our alignment, or because of our role.

[sprityo]

Why would town have two abilities related to stopping lynches?

Easy, they weren't given to the mafia.

We hand-selected our roles. The game was not balanced by the host.



Actually, I guess that depends on whether our secret powers were given to us because of our alignment, or because of our role.

Or simply just predetermined random assigned secrets

Probably the role related though since they all appear to be connnexted to actual FE characters

[speedchuck]

Anyway, when I said I'm protecting epi I lied I'm actually protecting spirit

Or is it the other way around?

The two of them are already protecting each other anyway.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Anyway, when I said I'm protecting epi I lied I'm actually protecting spirit

Or is it the other way around?

I lied

Why

[gwilikers6]

This will be the last post I write:

I think Gwilly and Irondwarf are scum. I think gwilly pulled some great trick with his role claim

What is that supposed to mean? My role is public and everyone I've targeted has confirmed I'm telling the truth.

[gwilikers6]

The tough thing about rdw is that all the RYM games are gone so I can't go look up his old meta to compare to this. ;_;

Incorrect.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fold ... HV3YVVKZlE

Not sure if you needed an invite or not, but they're all here.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The tough thing about rdw is that all the RYM games are gone so I can't go look up his old meta to compare to this. ;_;

Incorrect.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fold ... HV3YVVKZlE

Not sure if you needed an invite or not, but they're all here.

I can access it so no need for invites.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

One thing that I didn't do was check for post interactions with Quin. I only analysed votes, not posts. I don't have energy left to do it today, but I urge that those of you who will be active in the weekend try to do that.

ISO someone you suspect or feel neutral about, search for mentions of Quin, and try to see if there is anything that suggest they are teammates or not. Likewise, looking at Quin's mentions of other people may be useful too.

I like to believe votes say more than words, but words can be revealing too.

[Epignosis]

Epi doesn't look great here either. Not only he was the hand that ultimately saved Quin, but a seriously case for RDW bussing Epi can be made here. RDW, after creating the weapon that would destroy Nutella, washes his hands and votes for a teammate. Perfect day.

I don't care how I look. I'm cleared. If you don't agree, oh well.

I stopped the lynch to gain BTSC. That is one of the greatest advantages in Mafia, although I didn't know at the time that the people I would be teamed up with would not be confirmed. I pretended to care about how many votes I had at the time. I didn't care at all (though it is true that I didn't know if I would be around for the end of the Day). Stopping the Day 1 lynch was going to happen even if the entire Hand was going to be lynched and the game would be over and civilians would win.

[Kylemii]

Why would town have two abilities related to stopping lynches?

what?

[Epignosis]

epignosis defended quin multiple times
+ saving him from lynch on day 1
he was the most vocal player wanting JJJ dead, cos he didn’t like JJJ’s case on Quin
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 59#p410559
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 76#p410576
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 14#p411314
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 29#p411329

I saved him from the lynch on Day 1? I saved anybody and everybody from the lynch on Day 1. I didn't care who was up for being lynched.

Regarding JJJ, I already admitted I am a donkey. If I am a bad donkey though, and I was concerned about his treatment of Quin, I could have killed JJJ instead of putting forth the effort of lynching him. Or, since I rarely kill JJJ, I would have engaged him and got him to vote somewhere else.

[Epignosis]

I want to know more about Epi's chat with sprit.

Effectively Masons with a protect because Mac died

RIP MacDougall

Not masons.

Neighbors.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

Huh. My role thing actually said "mason with you" but I was later informed I had no guarantee either MacDougall or sprityo were good. I always assumed "mason" = BTSC.

[Epignosis]

during drafting epi was suggested to give wyvern to rdw but he gave it to sig instead, scum mates tryna distance themselves from each other

Fuck suggestions.

[sprityo]

I want to know more about Epi's chat with sprit.

Effectively Masons with a protect because Mac died

RIP MacDougall

Not masons.

Neighbors.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

Huh. My role thing actually said "mason with you" but I was later informed I had no guarantee either MacDougall or sprityo were good. I always assumed "mason" = BTSC.

same

[Epignosis]

DAY 5

Spoiler: show

RDW - ID
Epi - ID
Speed - ID
Marmot - Bob
ID - RDW
DDL - ID
Speed - ID
DDL - Kites
DDl - Bob
Nutella - Quin
Marmot - Quin
Quin - Nutella
Sprityo - ID
DDL - Nutella
Epi - Sig
lapluie - Nutella
ID - Marmot
Bob - Kenway
DDL - Quin
Sig - Quin
Kites - Quin
Quin - ID
Speed - Quin
Gwilkers - Quin
Kyle - Quin
Epi - ID
Bob - Quin
lapluie - Quin

RDW
Epi
Speed
Marmot
ID
DDL
Speed
DDL
DDL
Nutella
Marmot
Quin
Sprityo
DDL
Epi
lapluie
ID
Bob
DDL
Sig
Kites
Quin
Speed
Gwilkers
Kyle
Epi
Bob
lapluie

Key:

Quin - Red
ID - Light Blue
Nutella - Green
Bob - Orange
Others - White

At last, the day where Quin finally met his end. Day 5.

The push in the beginning is for ID, led by RDW, Epi, Speed, and myself. Then Nutella brings back the Quin wagon, wanting to give it an end once and for all. Marmot follows.

Quin restarts his case on Nutella. I follow, together with lapluie.

The Quin lynch then gains traction, represented by me, Sig, Kites, Speed, Gwilkers and Kyle, in this order. If there is any civ cred to be warranted at this point, the first ones deserve it more than the last ones, but don't put too much stock on it. Quin does a self-defense vote on ID. Epi does a Quin-defense vote on ID too. Bob and lapluie change their votes to Quin after the deadline.

This is the 3rd time out of 3 that I see Bob make an opportunistic vote on Quin after other people started lynching him.

I don't want to lynch ID that much after this, and I'm now suspicious that baddies may have tried to push a lynch on him to make it easier to night kill him later. Heck, the civs themselves would have done it. Then again, bussing is a thing, and bussing on ID at this point is not hard.

RDW still bad.

Also guys, analyse this post:

I have no reason not to vote Quin, but I'm going back to the Wizard of ID.

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

"I have no reason not to vote for Quin but I'm gonna save Quin"

Epignosis, would you like to provide a linguistic analysis of this? Because I think it looks like a baddie trying to justify a bad-looking vote.

If I may criticize you, in a manner that you have similarly criticized me before, I would say that your analysis is treating this like there is one mafia. I get that you are (perhaps) looking for other mafia, but your analysis is weak to me because it assumes any vote and all votes that were not on Quin were to hide / save / whatever.

Quin has teammates. I believe Iron_Dwarf is one. His reaction to catching Quin was bogus. Hooray we caught a bad guy but fuck we lost a teammate and it isn't like his enthusiasm is translating into finding Quin's teammates.

The biggest mistake civilians make is assuming someone was being saved or that the lynch leads consisted of people of opposite alignments. Those are two huge mistakes rooted deeply in human psychology that I, as a gambler, take full advantage of.

[Epignosis]

I consider the middle votes to be the civvie ones. As mafia I'll throw an early vote on a teammate and hope the day goes in a different direction way more often than I'll be the vote that solidifies them as the (or one of the) firm candidates.

Also, if I was so ready to bus Quin D1 and D4 why did it take me so long to vote him D5?

Don't give anybody credit for voting out Quin. He was a liability Day 1. No credit for anyone. Boo credit. Everyone remains a suspect.

[Epignosis]

My scum team:

Quin
RDW
Epi
Bob
Someone who has been blending like a boss. My gut says either Gwilker or Sig. Let's say Gwilkers for my attempt of calling the whole team.

how do i find myself agreeing with you so much now? this list is identical to the reads I gave yesterday apart from the last choice. i chose sprityo just cos he has this thing with epi and I think he said he had been protecting him every night but yeah that doesn’t indicate really anything

Also boo you.

[sprityo]

I think i already said it, but having a Knight on the mafia team is almost like giving the mafia an extra member, because if they get lynched they dont lose any amount of mafia members, the town will more than likely lose a player and the mafia are one step closer to overpowering town

if anything we could have the thieves check on I_D and see what the results are

By the way did we EVER get Lapluie to post their night results? i forget but i feel like it just never happened

[rundontwalk]

If iron dwarf is scum then how can gwilly be town? Do u see what I'm saying

[Marmot]

I consider the middle votes to be the civvie ones. As mafia I'll throw an early vote on a teammate and hope the day goes in a different direction way more often than I'll be the vote that solidifies them as the (or one of the) firm candidates.

Also, if I was so ready to bus Quin D1 and D4 why did it take me so long to vote him D5?

Don't give anybody credit for voting out Quin. He was a liability Day 1. No credit for anyone. Boo credit. Everyone remains a suspect.

Haha, but you're trying to take credit for stopping his lynch.

[Epignosis]

The more I look at Epi's vote on ID in day 5 the more I think it's too obvious a move for a baddie to make.

But I dunno, WIFOM.

It wasn't a move. It's a vote from a tired ass man who made sure he was happy with his vote and went to watch holy shit did you know there's a Castlevania series on Netflix? There is!

[rundontwalk]

"Everyone remains a suspect" is something scum would say at this point in game

[Epignosis]

I consider the middle votes to be the civvie ones. As mafia I'll throw an early vote on a teammate and hope the day goes in a different direction way more often than I'll be the vote that solidifies them as the (or one of the) firm candidates.

Also, if I was so ready to bus Quin D1 and D4 why did it take me so long to vote him D5?

Don't give anybody credit for voting out Quin. He was a liability Day 1. No credit for anyone. Boo credit. Everyone remains a suspect.

Haha, but you're trying to take credit for stopping his lynch.

Because...I...

...how shall I put this...

...hmm...

...I...

...stopped...

...the...lynch?