Isn't it cool?S~V~S wrote:Those are possibly the bandwagony-est votes I have ever seen.
I vote Enrique and he takes votes.
I vote juliets and she takes votes.
I love my power.
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Isn't it cool?S~V~S wrote:Those are possibly the bandwagony-est votes I have ever seen.
No.Made wrote:I don't like how fast everyone is hopping on Juliets. Juliets, why didn't you just post the original and- wait a second...What? I just reread the two post and they say pretty much the exact same thing?? Only difference is she didn't voice that she agreed with Epi? Are you guys kidding?
In the last game we played together, I was LMS. How does me trying to get you lynched in that game (when I didn't care about your alignment) mean that I can't read you?juliets wrote:You picked me out as a baddie in the last game we played and like this game, I was civ. I'm just one of those you can't read.
juliets wrote:Ok, if you think it makes me bad - did you ever explain how it makes me bad, asking someone to help understand their own case and changing what they are saying in the thread - but if you do you lose a civ vote if I get lynched. I think I'm just a convenient target.
Huh.juliets wrote:Epi since you are so good at picking out baddies
Ditto.MovingPictures07 wrote:Yep, I voted juliets. She clearly contradicted herself and I believe she is lying. I can always change it if I feel something better comes up, but considering I already was finding JC's lack of wanting to form any opinion at all for herself really odd, I feel OK with this vote.
But that doesn't require any "piecing together." I didn't lay down a bunch of mysterious comments or even make a huge case. I just told everybody what to do- no mystery there.juliets wrote:Yes I posted in the other game i was playing by mistake. I reposted in this game but decided not to retract my statement just yet. The post I had seen that caught my attention again was the one where you told us to vote for him. That's a pretty hard stance and made we want to look at what was behind it. I tracked down what I just posted but the evidence didn't persuade me.Epignosis wrote:Yes. Mistakenly posted in a different thread.Turnip Head wrote:Is that second quote from a different thread?Epignosis wrote:This is worded very differently than what you accidentally posted in Monty Python:juliets wrote:Epi since you are so good at picking out baddies I've been trying to piece together your suspicion of enrique but it would be more helpful if you could just give a short list of the things that have hit you about enrique. I was sure I wouldn't vote him but I want to make sure I understand why you are.
I am reminded of a certain evil dragon who piggybacked on my suspicions for several days, getting me to elaborate on them.juliets wrote:I think I may have to retract my statement about not voting for zeek, enrique or mp. I am piecing together Epigs suspicion of Enrique and it holds more water than I thought. Epi you could make this easier by just listing the reasons you voted for him. Just a few key words even.![]()
I don't want to make things easier. Why don't you tell me what you've pieced together about Enrique now that he has three votes?
I'm probably going to vote for someone not on any of these lists we've been discussing.
Was the enlarged true or was it not true?juliets wrote:I think I may have to retract my statement about not voting for zeek, enrique or mp. I am piecing together Epigs suspicion of Enrique and it holds more water than I thought. Epi you could make this easier by just listing the reasons you voted for him. Just a few key words even.
juliets wrote:That's all I find so I am not compelled to vote for Enrique.
Yes. Mistakenly posted in a different thread.Turnip Head wrote:Is that second quote from a different thread?Epignosis wrote:This is worded very differently than what you accidentally posted in Monty Python:juliets wrote:Epi since you are so good at picking out baddies I've been trying to piece together your suspicion of enrique but it would be more helpful if you could just give a short list of the things that have hit you about enrique. I was sure I wouldn't vote him but I want to make sure I understand why you are.
I am reminded of a certain evil dragon who piggybacked on my suspicions for several days, getting me to elaborate on them.juliets wrote:I think I may have to retract my statement about not voting for zeek, enrique or mp. I am piecing together Epigs suspicion of Enrique and it holds more water than I thought. Epi you could make this easier by just listing the reasons you voted for him. Just a few key words even.![]()
I don't want to make things easier. Why don't you tell me what you've pieced together about Enrique now that he has three votes?
This is worded very differently than what you accidentally posted in Monty Python:juliets wrote:Epi since you are so good at picking out baddies I've been trying to piece together your suspicion of enrique but it would be more helpful if you could just give a short list of the things that have hit you about enrique. I was sure I wouldn't vote him but I want to make sure I understand why you are.
I am reminded of a certain evil dragon who piggybacked on my suspicions for several days, getting me to elaborate on them.juliets wrote:I think I may have to retract my statement about not voting for zeek, enrique or mp. I am piecing together Epigs suspicion of Enrique and it holds more water than I thought. Epi you could make this easier by just listing the reasons you voted for him. Just a few key words even.
MP did move his vote to himself earlier. But now it's stuck there.Turnip Head wrote:I thought votes were stated to be changeable but I don't see that option
I hope they wouldn't modkill someone being helpful to the system.zeek wrote:It's time stamped... and I'm not getting modkilled right?
With moderator / host permission, I would like zeek to edit his above post to include a smiley face. I would like to test if the post includes a footnote indicating that he edited his post. If it does, then this shouldn't be a cause for concern. I remember A Person edited his posts in the game of champions and it time stamped his edits. He got modkilled.zeek wrote:I can edit my posts as well
Which is exactly what I called him out for in both games, and did so first: Statements devoid of meaning.Bullzeye wrote:So you were suspicious of him sure. But I thinkEpignosis wrote:Obviously I cannot lynch someone by myself. I initiated the proceedings against MP in (heh) MP on Day 1 before anyone said anything against him, and I pressed him, and pressed him some more. Until I gave him the rope and told him to start tying his own noose, the focus was on Made / Enrique / and thellama73. Check the links if you don't believe me.Bullzeye wrote:Busy day yesterday packing for uni and I'm still not finished! Going to be another fun day for me. I have been trying to keep up but only barely because I've had too much to do. I should be around more today though so if I get a chance I'll try to properly catch up.
Is he actually claiming credit for that? Because I don't remember him having any major part in it. I would credit that lynch to you, BWT, and Daisy as well as MP's own actions.S~V~S wrote:I thought a number of people were responsible for catching MP in Python, Epi, but whatever. If you say so![]()
Addendum: No, The Hobbit was a different game where I did the same thing.
Epignosis wrote:MP has gotten lynched in the past two full games on Day 1 because I called him on it.
is a bit of a bold statement. You weren't the only factor in either of those games. Maybe a primary factor in The Hobbit, I'll give you that. But I don't think two deaths in a row were entirely because of you, I know that in MP you had nothing to do with my vote for him and don't recall many people saying you'd influenced them. I'm not saying it means anything about you or your alignment, I'm just saying I don't quite think you can go around acting like some MP expert and claiming credit for things that you aren't really that responsible for. In my opinion MP's biggest tell is that when he's bad he makes his same huge posts but they don't actually say very much, I've used the phrase 'lots of words but not much use for them' in regard to him before. As a civ his dissertations generally tend to mean something. I'm not seeing bad MP either yet.
Obviously I cannot lynch someone by myself. I initiated the proceedings against MP in (heh) MP on Day 1 before anyone said anything against him, and I pressed him, and pressed him some more. Until I gave him the rope and told him to start tying his own noose, the focus was on Made / Enrique / and thellama73. Check the links if you don't believe me.Bullzeye wrote:Busy day yesterday packing for uni and I'm still not finished! Going to be another fun day for me. I have been trying to keep up but only barely because I've had too much to do. I should be around more today though so if I get a chance I'll try to properly catch up.
Is he actually claiming credit for that? Because I don't remember him having any major part in it. I would credit that lynch to you, BWT, and Daisy as well as MP's own actions.S~V~S wrote:I thought a number of people were responsible for catching MP in Python, Epi, but whatever. If you say so![]()
Civilians lose because they post but do not pay attention. How many people will be here Friday evening EST voting but with little information? It's a lot like America, no?Turnip Head wrote:Interesting Epi. I've noticed you've been relatively quiet on the matter. What makes you say that?
MP isn't bad this time. He could be the independent, but he's not bad.Turnip Head wrote:@MP: I've seen glimpses of your civvie game in some games recently. Not a large sample size, but I've picked up on a few things I've seen you do as a civvie compared to things I've seen you do as a baddie (which is a much larger sample size for me).
I can go into more detail if you wish, and I'm sure you'll want me toBut, I'm curious what do you think are the differences between your civ game and your bad game? What do you think I'm missing?
Um... have you played with MP before?!? Lol. He loves to cause trouble early as a baddie.Dana wrote:Do you guys really think MP would start out immediately accusing people and making multiple paragraph long posts as a baddie during day 0 and 1? That brought so much attention onto him, I don't understand why anyone who's bad would do something like that. I'm suspicious of the people who are jumping onto this vote.
I don't recall referencing anything MP said about Enrique. Enrique did something very specific I did recently when I was bad, and some of his posts don't sound genuine to me.juliets wrote:Epignosis in answer to the question about why you voted Enrique you referred us back to a post where MP made comments about what he saw about Enrique. Are you trying to say you have the same reasons? Can you just list the reasons in your post so this won't be so confusing? It should be no problem since you so recently voted for him.
Not really, other than the above.juliets wrote:Epignosis, I would like you to take a look at my post about what the Enrique suspision is all about and tell me if you would add anything to it.
That seems backwards to me. It is more suspicious to defend someone in the thread than it is to be defended by someone. The reason is simple: Mafia know who is not them, so they could easily defend a civilian.S~V~S wrote:Personally I am more interested in Zeek based on Mades defense of him. I was kinda doing the "well it's day zero" thing, but this whole conversation is odd. He says he is NOT defending Zeek, but it really feels as if he is.
I'm not careful.Made wrote:The Suicidal Civvie Gambit. Having been on the opposite side of this gambit, i must say, you can get a very fun chain of civvies dying if you're not careful. Assuming you and Enrique are civvie, this would lead to a train of more civvies jumping on to kill the person who killed the previous civvie.Epignosis wrote:I am telling you to vote for Enrique. What do I have to gain from this?
If he is lynched and is bad, then I get Night killed.
If he is lynched and is good, then I get lynched.
Which is par for the course for me.
Vote for Enrique.
Linki- Isn't Enrique already president?
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 091#p85091Dana wrote:Can you explain why you did vote, then? I think it was MP (maybe?) who asked you why you voted for Enrique but I don't recall you ever answering.Epignosis wrote:Not the reason I voted.Dana wrote:I think this is such a bad reason to vote for someone. You can't say someone is lying about having a bad day because they were happy a few hours ago. That's not how life works at all. Things happen, and happy people can turn sad or upset or angry or any other emotion.Epignosis wrote:Don't buy real life excuses for a game you were happy in a couple of hours ago.Enrique wrote:*the reason I brought it up in the first place*
Sorry I'm not the kind to pussy out of mafia but I'm literally having the shittest day. Think I'm out for the night. I'm innocent and answering honestly and all that.
Leaving my vote on you. Still think you should be voted out.
Sets a bad precedent.
Not the reason I voted.Dana wrote:I think this is such a bad reason to vote for someone. You can't say someone is lying about having a bad day because they were happy a few hours ago. That's not how life works at all. Things happen, and happy people can turn sad or upset or angry or any other emotion.Epignosis wrote:Don't buy real life excuses for a game you were happy in a couple of hours ago.Enrique wrote:*the reason I brought it up in the first place*
Sorry I'm not the kind to pussy out of mafia but I'm literally having the shittest day. Think I'm out for the night. I'm innocent and answering honestly and all that.
Leaving my vote on you. Still think you should be voted out.
No, I've gotten him killed super early.Dana wrote:But it also gets you killed super early, at least as long as I've been around.MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, baddies can play aggressive games too. I do it all the time.
Don't buy real life excuses for a game you were happy in a couple of hours ago.Enrique wrote:*the reason I brought it up in the first place*
Sorry I'm not the kind to pussy out of mafia but I'm literally having the shittest day. Think I'm out for the night. I'm innocent and answering honestly and all that.
QED.Enrique wrote:Yeah? That's what I'm referring to in the post you quoted. I didn't think there was an obvious explanation and legitimately wanted to know how zeek answered. But then MP did it for him, and it made enough sense to satisfy me. I wasn't witch hunting someone for the sake of it, I was asking a question and expecting an answer.
I tried that in Monty Python. I might have gotten away with it, but I got Night killed.Enrique wrote:You know, I'm usually on SVS's side whenever she has the argument with Epig, but I really would've liked to see zeek's response here
I'll take it, though. That'd be a really weird thing to slip on.
I waited until Day 1. But you, sir, are my greatest suspect.Enrique wrote:No. It's suspicious that he used it without any indication that he was around when it was used.
A redundancy?Mister Rearranger wrote:What do you call 2 twins
Already did.keys56000000000 wrote: @Epi: what about that exchange seems false to you? I'm intrigued, can you put you finger on it?
Can I help it if my equine companion is inclined to indulge in refreshments that may or may not be legal? Hmm?S~V~S wrote:Get off the high horse, Epi.
Did I dispute your thinking that clipping quotes looks bad? Does that answer why you would coach Made in thread? What does clipping quotes have to do with being secretive? What did we run into "last game?" When was this? What did you point out? How did I give you grief for it? Who was civilian?S~V~S wrote:And I do think clipping quotes looks bad. But why be so secretive all the time? We ran into this in the last game; I pointed out that a point of suspicion against someone was wrong, and you gave me grief for it, Epi. And it was wrong since he was civ.
But you didn't find the quote! Made did.S~V~S wrote:It took me several minutes to find that quote, and i know how to search this site fairly well. Before this conversation, i thought the whole Zeek/MP thing was chest bumping, but this had made me think I want to reread Zeek a bit harder.
There isn't?zeek wrote:First, I disagree. Say a baddie team has nobody on it with a clue about Doctor Who, there is no way I'm giving them the info they need by speculating on civvie powers.
No? Wait a while.zeek wrote:Second, I don't need anyone to fight my battles.