The Syndicate

So Devin was the one who took out Typhoony Night 1.

I took 2.

nutella wrote:
reywaS wrote:nutella has been eerily silent through all of this.
My death seems inevitable at this point, what do you expect me to say?

You could tell us your teammates.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I was beginning to wonder where you'd gone to Epignosis.

Do you have any interest in lynching reywas?

Some of us work.

Not now. I'd rather go nutella. I believe I caught her in her ridiculous vote for bird.

Isn't it a little early for power plays? I don't know.

I voted nutella.

Black Rock wrote:
Official Announcement

An Epic Challenge has been completed!

Oh

Also by the end of the night every player will have been recruited.

Hey rey.

I want to see nutella lynched next. I see you do too.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I love the dawn hours, everyone is hiding, waiting to see the outcome of the nights events. But you know what? We're not going to die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too damn pretty for God to let us die. Seeing as that I am not afraid to die, I think the following are bad:

Nutella
Tranq
MM

Maybe Devin and Canuck

I think you are wrong about aapje Epi, and since I trusted you last time, I'd like you to trust me this time. Tit for tat my friend.
I would like have liked a little MORE trust from you, but there we are. If tits are in the plan, that only sweetens the deal.
You had more than realized. Not my tits of course, you'll have to talk to your wife about that.

It's all good.

And I'm just trying to be funny. No sexual harassment intended. I'd hate for Alex to try to kick my ass.

Spacedaisy wrote:I love the dawn hours, everyone is hiding, waiting to see the outcome of the nights events. But you know what? We're not going to die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too damn pretty for God to let us die. Seeing as that I am not afraid to die, I think the following are bad:

Nutella
Tranq
MM

Maybe Devin and Canuck

I think you are wrong about aapje Epi, and since I trusted you last time, I'd like you to trust me this time. Tit for tat my friend.

I would like have liked a little MORE trust from you, but there we are. If tits are in the plan, that only sweetens the deal.

I'm taking three.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I apologize. I still have not had any time to catch up. Later tomorrow I will try to do so.

Can you at least vote, you booby?

nutella wrote:wow a ton of votes on me just for one little post, amazing Since Epi is back I see that literally nothing I say will be taken seriously.

You never told me what about birdwithteeth- not Boomslang- made you not feel good. That's what I wanted to hear.

Spacedaisy wrote:you know what is funny? This bean dip thing became a thing here and has been for months without me even knowing it. I inadvertently created an inside joke and without even knowing it!!

Also, there is bean dip in my fridge at this very moment.

I was going to buy bean dip and wrap it up and give it to MP as a present but we were almost late to the wedding and I think of things last minute.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Vote registered for birdwithteeth

Look what you've done Epignosis, you've created a monster.

Power play there?

Spacedaisy wrote:Alright Epi. You know what, I trust you. I don't understand you right now, but I trust you. Mark this day on your calendar. I will switch my vote to Nutella.

vote registered for Nutella

And if she flips bad, tranq should be a serious contender for a lynch.

I'm grabbing a neon pen now.

Will anyone else consider my quest to lynch nutella based on this misstep?

Spacedaisy wrote:I did say I would consider voting elsewhere, more than once in the last handful of posts.

I know you did, but I don't think I've read enough to say an intelligent enough thing to get you to vote someone else. I do feel like I'm right about nutella. Her verb tense made it sound like new bwt has done something suspicious, but he hasn't. So she voted for him.

That's rotten.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone willing to consider a Devin vote??

I just went and glanced through his posts, and they are why wibblyest, most non-committal things I've ever seen.....EXCEPT for the Bubbles vote day, which looks like a sort of half-hearted distancing attempt by Bubbles....

Other people should have a look and tell me what they think
I agree with your suspicion completely, but I think we should at least try to zero in on a couple people rather than spread it out all over. If devin would be one of those then yes I would consider it.the same goes for Nutella, and clearly bwt. Tranq would be an option to me too.

Linki @ Epi: you have no more concrete evidence for Nutella, so I'm really not understanding why you have hesitance regarding bwt. I would consider a Nutella vote, but I am not ready to commit to that yet.
You have no concrete evidence for bwt. If you had concrete evidence all the time, Mafia ceases to be Mafia and you might as well play Tetris.

No, I have no more concrete evidence for Nutella. I looked at her more closely because she posted something that, in my opinion, was flimsy and weak. I now believe she should be lynched.

If you lynch bwt, and he comes back not bad, what then?
Then I was wrong and we try again, that is the risk that is run in every lynch. I'm aware there isn't hard and fast evidence for bwt, I've never claimed there was. what answer are you looking for from me here?

"Whoopsie" isn't it. I 100% believe you have a side. If it's a bad side, then fine. Ignore me. But if it's not a bad side, then "I would consider voting elsewhere" would be a nice start.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone willing to consider a Devin vote??

I just went and glanced through his posts, and they are why wibblyest, most non-committal things I've ever seen.....EXCEPT for the Bubbles vote day, which looks like a sort of half-hearted distancing attempt by Bubbles....

Other people should have a look and tell me what they think
I agree with your suspicion completely, but I think we should at least try to zero in on a couple people rather than spread it out all over. If devin would be one of those then yes I would consider it.the same goes for Nutella, and clearly bwt. Tranq would be an option to me too.

Linki @ Epi: you have no more concrete evidence for Nutella, so I'm really not understanding why you have hesitance regarding bwt. I would consider a Nutella vote, but I am not ready to commit to that yet.

You have no concrete evidence for bwt. If you had concrete evidence all the time, Mafia ceases to be Mafia and you might as well play Tetris.

No, I have no more concrete evidence for Nutella. I looked at her more closely because she posted something that, in my opinion, was flimsy and weak. I now believe she should be lynched.

If you lynch bwt, and he comes back not bad, what then?

Spacedaisy wrote:I think she is likely bad. I've gone back and forth about her all game, but lately I have felt mostly bad vibes where she is concerned and she and tranq jumping on makes me feel even more. However, there are also two bad teams, so it doesn't clear bwt IMO.

No, it doesn't clear him. But, again, Henry Fonda style...reasonable doubt and all.

Spacedaisy wrote:What word did you have in mind?

Given nutella's last post, has your opinion of her changed?

Spacedaisy, a word please?

Not ^ ?

nutella wrote:I'm voting for bwt because I thought boomslang was bad for a while and haven't been feeling good about him lately. I also wouldn't be surprised if tranq was bad.

I'm glad you posted this, as a matter of fact. Analyzing it linguistically, it's rotten. Regarding bwt, you "haven't been feeling good about him lately."

What does that mean? If you thought Boomslang was "bad for a while," then why would you feel anything else but bad regarding bwt?

What has birdwithteeth said or done "lately" (your word) to make you not feel good about him?

Here's his only post since coming back:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Sorry everyone. Just realized I had replaced back into this game. Too tired to read anything tonight, but I'll start catching up again tomorrow afternoon/evening after work.

That's it. Please tell me what is bothering you.

I'm switching my vote to nutella, and I encourage the other bwt voters to do likewise.

nutella wrote:I'm voting for bwt because I thought boomslang was bad for a while and haven't been feeling good about him lately. I also wouldn't be surprised if tranq was bad.

Then you could try voting Tranq.

I'm voting for Tranq now. I don't want three votes on birdwithteeth to prompt a runaway train.

DFaraday had 8 posts and his role is still around Day 11. Bass subbed in for him and self-voted Day 5. It would seem he missed each vote after that until G-Spice stepped in for him. I would need to see (and not smell) more from him before I can form an opinion.

Tranq has 44 posts here, compared to 83 in RM3 when he was recruited bad Night 3 (and killed by another team Night 7). Despite the post count, I'm detecting a consistent tone. In RM3, every other posts of his has a

, and after he was recruited, he was not shy about gunning for Boogs, who was good and got lynched (I also note that when I called out bea, his own team captain, he said "Very interesting theory about bea" (there's that word, haha)). I think Tranq also would have no qualms taking out Typhoony Night 1. However, what stands out most for me is Tranq's Day 7 vote for timmer after Tranq had arrived at the conclusion that timmer was neutral. I get he was silenced, but Tranq never explained the vote later. Am I to believe that Tranq was silenced and forced to vote timmer?

Sorsha wrote:Have you looked over daisys case on bwt?

I did.

Sorsha wrote:Going to vote for bwt for now. I think that's the strongest case right now.

I don't really disagree with you on aapje, epi, but I like the points brought up on bwt better than just assumptions.

It's a strong circumstantial case.

I've been burned by circumstantial cases far too many times to let that alone guide me.

Spacedaisy wrote:I don't know for certain. But that is what I think most likely. What do you propose happened then?

I don't know- I haven't wrapped my head around things yet.

I'd like to hear from bwt and aapje first. I don't think tossing votes out there is a good idea.

For you, if not these two, then who?

Spacedaisy wrote:Bwt replaced boomslang. I believe boomslang was bad. He was already under suspicion from players, then Night 9s came along and Ahriman attempted to kill 2 people, DH and boomslang. Both failed. It has generally been agreed upon that DH would be a freaking weird choice of kill for Ahriman, all things considered. I had looked over the list to see if there was a reason that Ahriman might have ended up with two kills showing up in one night. The only thing I could see was that Boomslang (because I am operating under the belief that Ahriman wouldn't have targeted DH) might be either the jilted lover or the warden. We know now that Gman was the jilted lover in his previous incarnation,so we can scratch that. So if he was the warden, and the power was used by him, targeting DH seems like a decidedly baddie move. Then the only sense I can make of Roxy's weirdness over the restarted night was that she was trying to obfuscate the truth about what occurred in order to provide some cover for boom/bwt. I really think this would be the best choice for a lynch today.

I can see that. That's good.

But consider this, Henry Fonda style:

Did bwt actually try to kill DH? I'm not so sure he did.

Spacedaisy wrote:Why what? Why bwt over aapje? Because I whole heartedly believe bwt is bad and I do not feel the same way about aapje.

Why Rez Jay? Because he brings life to the thread we are missing.

OK, why do you think bwt is bad?

Spacedaisy wrote:I would much rather see a bwt lynch over an aapje lynch. I'd also like to see more talking in here. Someone rez Jay please.

Why?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't understand.
I know.

Trust me.

Guy's good with bugs.
If I knew that I totally would have killed him on Night 1 as well.

Knock yourself out.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't understand.

I know.

Trust me.

Guy's good with bugs.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:This begs the question: why would aapje want to take Typhoony out so early?

It doesn't beg the question. It raises it.

The answer is that Typhoony is good with bugs.

bea wrote:epi - lets cut to the quick

are you civ?

I'm not answering that.

bea wrote:Do you think aapje might be civ?

why or why not on your reasons?

I'm of the opinion that aapje killed Typhoony, and therefore Dom and Lorab. Unlike MP, I do think aapje would be of a mind to kill Typhoony early on as a neutral. That's what's been lingering in the back of my mind. That doesn't speak to his alignment, of course, but I think the shift from Typhoony to Dom and Lorab indicates recruitment. It's an odd threesome of victims. And I was of the mindset that neither Dom nor Lorab were bad. No hard evidence, just tone, mind you.

I realize that's a lot of guessing and assumptions on my part, but that's how it is.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Speaker of Serenity wrote:Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.
Epignosis, do these words stated early on in the game mean anything to you?

Yes.

Spacedaisy wrote:Welcome back Epi!

Thanks. I'll give boomswithteeth a look over too.

bea wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I'm not sure I believe that everyone who is saying they are still neutral actually are. I'm just calling bullshit on epi calling bullshit.
Then you're calling bullshit on yourself. And you're being defensive about it.
No I'm just at saying you're wrong about there being no unrecruited neutrals out here.

Hi bea, just for you:

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I'm not sure I believe that everyone who is saying they are still neutral actually are. I'm just calling bullshit on epi calling bullshit.
Then you're calling bullshit on yourself. And you're being defensive about it.
No I'm just at saying you're wrong about there being no unrecruited neutrals out here.
I didn't say there were no unrecruited neutrals out there.

Epignosis wrote:At this stage, I find the unrecruited claims bullshit. It's Night 10. Stop pretending that shit.

I don't think it's the only answer either. If it were the only answer, then what kind of game would this be?

If appje is good, and you were bad, would you kill him?

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas.

Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Questions at Dawn:

If you were a civilian recruiter, would you take aapje?

Do you think aapje is a civilian recruiter?
- Yes, if for no other reason than to make sure nobody else got him.

- Not sure but he feels civvie to me.
"Linki- hell yeah I'd recruit aapje. Basically what th said"

Then why isn't he dead?
The baddies have been making some... questionable moves at best. Why did Urkel just kill Roxy? I don't see what play they're trying to make with that NK.

You're asking about something that happened Night 10. I'm asking about something that hasn't happened since Night 1. Big difference.

Make that three.

I realize it's a shitty argument, but it is one: Two of you said you'd scoop up aapje in a hurry. Yet it's Day 11. Has anyone tried to kill him? Why is he still around if he's such a hot civilian commodity?

Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Questions at Dawn:

If you were a civilian recruiter, would you take aapje?

Do you think aapje is a civilian recruiter?
- Yes, if for no other reason than to make sure nobody else got him.

- Not sure but he feels civvie to me.

"Linki- hell yeah I'd recruit aapje. Basically what th said"

Then why isn't he dead?

Questions at Dawn:

If you were a civilian recruiter, would you take aapje?

Do you think aapje is a civilian recruiter?

And now there are fewer people to calculate.

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