Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)

[bea]

fwiq I'm sad too lorab.

[Spacedaisy]

At this stage, I find the unrecruited claims bullshit. It's Night 10. Stop pretending that shit.

By Night 10 of RM3, recruitments were finished and no one was left unrecruited.

So get out of here with that, number one.

Number two, if you are unrecruited, you still have an allegiance.

Welcome back Epi!

which team are you on MM? you quit being neutral a while ago ammIrite?

I like this bea, can we keep her around?

Holy smokes that was a lot of death, but I would like to point out that of those who died, only one was one of the people claiming to be unrecruited. Which is why I think those who are saying, "if you're civ you should be claiming it now" deserve an eyeball on them.

I personally intend of voting for bwt. It would be silly to ignore the fact that boomslang survived a kill by Ahriman in a night when there were two Ahriman kills, one of which was directed at DH, which is shady. I think this looks really bad and would have voted him yesterday if not for the fact he couldn't be lynched.

Voted registered for bwt

Also, I think Rox was bad so I'm cool with that kill, I think she was spinning that two night theory crap to try to cover bwt's ass. Just my two cents.

[nutella]

Holy shit so many deaths. I think it is very likely more than one of them was bad though.

[aapje]

Wow that's a lot of death.

And thanks for painting that target on my back Epi. Most of the living players haven't been targeted with a NK. I'd like to think that is part of the reason why they are still alive :P

For today's lynch I was planning on voting for llama and question Roxy. So much for that plan

[Roxy]

as expected! Thanks for the very fun game BR and the incredible Death Post LC!
Lasted way longer than last game for that I am happy!

[Tangrowth]

as expected! Thanks for the very fun game BR and the incredible Death Post LC!
Lasted way longer than last game for that I am happy!

Hey Rox, welcome to the zombie bar.

And welcome to all of our new guests! Man, getting kinda crowded now.

[reywaS]

wow that was a lot of death.

[reywaS]

At this stage, I find the unrecruited claims bullshit. It's Night 10. Stop pretending that shit.

By Night 10 of RM3, recruitments were finished and no one was left unrecruited.

So get out of here with that, number one.

Number two, if you are unrecruited, you still have an allegiance.

Surviving is winning, baby. That's my allegiance.

[Marmot]

I'm voting Turnip Head... for now.

[Marmot]

I don't blame Rico either. I thought the bird was lying through his teeth and didn't trust a word coming out of his beak. I'm still wondering if the Windscout's Pos. 4 Seemer ability allowed him to change his revealed alignment, but idk.

Just noticed, and I agree that it is a possibility.

Hoagies! Can a seemer "seem" his/her recruitment status as well as his/her role?

[Marmot]

Here's another unnecessary updated list of player post links with Epignosis, G-Man, and birdwithteeth11 added back in.



aapje - Posts
Bass_the_Clever - Posts
bea - Posts
birdwithteeth11 - Posts
Boomslang / birdwithteeth11 2.0 - Posts / Posts
Bullzeye - Posts
Canucklehead - Posts
Devin the Omniscient - Posts
DFaraday / Bass_the_Clever 2.0 / G-Man 2.0 - Posts / Posts / Posts
DharmaHelper / Epignosis 2.0 - Posts / Posts
DisgruntledPorcupine - Posts
Dom - Posts
DrWilgy - Posts
Epignosis - Posts
Golden - Posts
G-Man - Posts
JaggedJimmyJay - Posts
LoRab - Posts
Metalmarsh89 - Posts
MovingPictures07 - Posts
nutella - Posts
reywaS - Posts
Ricochet - Posts
Roxy - Posts
Russtifinko / Synonym - Posts / Posts
Scotty - Posts
Sorsha - Posts
Spacedaisy - Posts
S~V~S - Posts
thellama73 - Posts
timmer - Posts
TinyBubbles - Posts
Tranq - Posts
Turnip Head - Posts
Typhoony - Posts
unfurl - Posts

[Marmot]

I don't blame Rico either. I thought the bird was lying through his teeth and didn't trust a word coming out of his beak. I'm still wondering if the Windscout's Pos. 4 Seemer ability allowed him to change his revealed alignment, but idk.

Just noticed, and I agree that it is a possibility.

Hoagies! Can a seemer "seem" his/her recruitment status as well as his/her role?

I suppose that with birdwithteeth replacing back into the game, he probably was not recruited, but an answer would still be useful.

[Marmot]

Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.

Epignosis, do these words stated early on in the game mean anything to you?

[Draconus]

RIP Everyone
Welcome back Epi

I find myself agreeing with SD again. I may vote bwt today. I'm always up for a birdie lynch

[Ricochet]

Somebody doesn't like me anymore...

'But Rico, nobody here likes you...'

[Spacedaisy]

RIP Everyone
Welcome back Epi

I find myself agreeing with SD again. I may vote bwt today. I'm always up for a birdie lynch

I find your amicability with my views to be unnerving. You're freaking me out man!

[Draconus]

Me too.

But let's face it. I have a tendency to go after bird regardless of who else is doing it

[Marmot]

Somebody doesn't like me anymore...

'But Rico, nobody here likes you...'

Not true at all.

[Epignosis]

epi - lets cut to the quick

are you civ?

I'm not answering that.

Do you think aapje might be civ?

why or why not on your reasons?

I'm of the opinion that aapje killed Typhoony, and therefore Dom and Lorab. Unlike MP, I do think aapje would be of a mind to kill Typhoony early on as a neutral. That's what's been lingering in the back of my mind. That doesn't speak to his alignment, of course, but I think the shift from Typhoony to Dom and Lorab indicates recruitment. It's an odd threesome of victims. And I was of the mindset that neither Dom nor Lorab were bad. No hard evidence, just tone, mind you.

I realize that's a lot of guessing and assumptions on my part, but that's how it is.

Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.

Epignosis, do these words stated early on in the game mean anything to you?

Yes.

Welcome back Epi!

Thanks. I'll give boomswithteeth a look over too.

[Turnip Head]

Do you think aapje might be civ?

why or why not on your reasons?

I'm of the opinion that aapje killed Typhoony, and therefore Dom and Lorab. Unlike MP, I do think aapje would be of a mind to kill Typhoony early on as a neutral. That's what's been lingering in the back of my mind. That doesn't speak to his alignment, of course, but I think the shift from Typhoony to Dom and Lorab indicates recruitment. It's an odd threesome of victims. And I was of the mindset that neither Dom nor Lorab were bad. No hard evidence, just tone, mind you.

I realize that's a lot of guessing and assumptions on my part, but that's how it is.

It's an interesting thought. These are only the kills that went through. The Brutal Executioner also tried to kill JJJ, MP and the marmot, and twice went after LoRab. Also missed a couple of kills or was blocked. aapje is definitely on my shortlist of players who would try to take out Typh early.

[Marmot]

This begs the question: why would aapje want to take Typhoony out so early?

[Epignosis]

This begs the question: why would aapje want to take Typhoony out so early?

It doesn't beg the question. It raises it.

The answer is that Typhoony is good with bugs.

[Marmot]

I don't understand.

[Epignosis]

I don't understand.

I know.

Trust me.

Guy's good with bugs.

[Marmot]

I don't understand.

I know.

Trust me.

Guy's good with bugs.

If I knew that I totally would have killed him on Night 1 as well.

[Epignosis]

I don't understand.

I know.

Trust me.

Guy's good with bugs.

If I knew that I totally would have killed him on Night 1 as well.

Knock yourself out.

[Marmot]

I don't understand.

I know.

Trust me.

Guy's good with bugs.

If I knew that I totally would have killed him on Night 1 as well.

Knock yourself out.

I scored 0 points on my first try...

[Matahari]

any musketeers up in here?

[Marmot]

any musketeers up in here?

Hello Mata! Good to see you again.

[Matahari]

hello MM!

[reywaS]

Hello, Mata

[Matahari]

hiya Rey!

[Spacedaisy]

I would much rather see a bwt lynch over an aapje lynch. I'd also like to see more talking in here. Someone rez Jay please.

[Epignosis]

I would much rather see a bwt lynch over an aapje lynch. I'd also like to see more talking in here. Someone rez Jay please.

Why?

[Spacedaisy]

Why what? Why bwt over aapje? Because I whole heartedly believe bwt is bad and I do not feel the same way about aapje.

Why Rez Jay? Because he brings life to the thread we are missing.

[Epignosis]

Why what? Why bwt over aapje? Because I whole heartedly believe bwt is bad and I do not feel the same way about aapje.

Why Rez Jay? Because he brings life to the thread we are missing.

OK, why do you think bwt is bad?

[Spacedaisy]

Bwt replaced boomslang. I believe boomslang was bad. He was already under suspicion from players, then Night 9s came along and Ahriman attempted to kill 2 people, DH and boomslang. Both failed. It has generally been agreed upon that DH would be a freaking weird choice of kill for Ahriman, all things considered. I had looked over the list to see if there was a reason that Ahriman might have ended up with two kills showing up in one night. The only thing I could see was that Boomslang (because I am operating under the belief that Ahriman wouldn't have targeted DH) might be either the jilted lover or the warden. We know now that Gman was the jilted lover in his previous incarnation,so we can scratch that. So if he was the warden, and the power was used by him, targeting DH seems like a decidedly baddie move. Then the only sense I can make of Roxy's weirdness over the restarted night was that she was trying to obfuscate the truth about what occurred in order to provide some cover for boom/bwt. I really think this would be the best choice for a lynch today.

[Epignosis]

Bwt replaced boomslang. I believe boomslang was bad. He was already under suspicion from players, then Night 9s came along and Ahriman attempted to kill 2 people, DH and boomslang. Both failed. It has generally been agreed upon that DH would be a freaking weird choice of kill for Ahriman, all things considered. I had looked over the list to see if there was a reason that Ahriman might have ended up with two kills showing up in one night. The only thing I could see was that Boomslang (because I am operating under the belief that Ahriman wouldn't have targeted DH) might be either the jilted lover or the warden. We know now that Gman was the jilted lover in his previous incarnation,so we can scratch that. So if he was the warden, and the power was used by him, targeting DH seems like a decidedly baddie move. Then the only sense I can make of Roxy's weirdness over the restarted night was that she was trying to obfuscate the truth about what occurred in order to provide some cover for boom/bwt. I really think this would be the best choice for a lynch today.

I can see that. That's good.

But consider this, Henry Fonda style:

Did bwt actually try to kill DH? I'm not so sure he did.

[Spacedaisy]

I don't know for certain. But that is what I think most likely. What do you propose happened then?

[Epignosis]

I don't know for certain. But that is what I think most likely. What do you propose happened then?

I don't know- I haven't wrapped my head around things yet.

I'd like to hear from bwt and aapje first. I don't think tossing votes out there is a good idea.

For you, if not these two, then who?

[Spacedaisy]

Votes are changeable, I have no issue with tossing my vote out there now.

[Spacedaisy]

I would consider tranq, too quiet I don't know what he is playing at. Metalmarsh seems to be too eager to stay on people's good side, that is concerning me, it is far from his regular play style. Devin, he has been a band wagoner all along, not feeling good vibes there, even if he is agreeing with my BWT suspicions.

[bea]

Epi - thanks for your thoughts. I hadn't concidered the bug aspect, but it's a fair point. I honestly don't know aapje's play style well enough to know if he'd hold a grudge that long.

I'm super sketched out by tranq's quiet. I honestly don't remember the last time he posted. I'm putting my vote there as I have to work up till vote change time. I will try to be back before then to see if I should move it.

[Sorsha]

Going to vote for bwt for now. I think that's the strongest case right now.

I don't really disagree with you on aapje, epi, but I like the points brought up on bwt better than just assumptions.

[Epignosis]

Going to vote for bwt for now. I think that's the strongest case right now.

I don't really disagree with you on aapje, epi, but I like the points brought up on bwt better than just assumptions.

It's a strong circumstantial case.

I've been burned by circumstantial cases far too many times to let that alone guide me.

[Sorsha]

I understand. And sometimes there really is nothing solid to go on and aapjes a great player who could definitely avoid leaving us anything. So I won't rule out a vote for him at some point.

Have you looked over daisys case on bwt?

[Epignosis]

Have you looked over daisys case on bwt?

I did.

[aapje]

I'm of the opinion that aapje killed Typhoony, and therefore Dom and Lorab. Unlike MP, I do think aapje would be of a mind to kill Typhoony early on as a neutral. That's what's been lingering in the back of my mind. That doesn't speak to his alignment, of course, but I think the shift from Typhoony to Dom and Lorab indicates recruitment. It's an odd threesome of victims. And I was of the mindset that neither Dom nor Lorab were bad. No hard evidence, just tone, mind you.

Of course the problem with that is that I'm not the Brutal Executioner.

Epi - thanks for your thoughts. I hadn't concidered the bug aspect, but it's a fair point. I honestly don't know aapje's play style well enough to know if he'd hold a grudge that long.
I'm super sketched out by tranq's quiet. I honestly don't remember the last time he posted. I'm putting my vote there as I have to work up till vote change time. I will try to be back before then to see if I should move it.

What grudge? That game looks familiar, pretty sure it was in RM3. Can't really recall what is was for though.

[Bullzeye]

I could see a BWT vote today. I was suspicious of Boom on and off all game - one of those people who are always at the back of your mind. I also think Daisy made some solid points against him. I'm open to other ideas though but this is where I'm probably going.

[aapje]

Today I was probably going to vote for either llama or Roxy. Now I think it will be between BWT and Tranq.