The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:23 am At this point neon oozes town for me.

You went from this to voting Neon that fast just because of Seanzie? Why is Neon so obviously bad?

Wow, this is not what I was expecting to come back to.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:28 am D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy

D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon

Never been wagoned at EoD (8): Bea, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS, Scotty

People on both Maj wagons (4): Golden, Sean, SVS, Lucy

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Kate, Scotty, Mata

People never on the Maj wagon (4): Neon, Bea, Falcon, Roxy

I really like this post. What can we do with it? Neon I'm so glad you're here. Don't worry @S~V~S and @Golden I still fangirl you two topsies but neon has entered the chat...

@Seanzie you ok?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:23 am At this point neon oozes town for me.

Just read through and have to jump in to say I agree.

Welcome Neon!

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:34 pm I get it like I got the enema joke

Hey neon got any new reads?

You tease me in the exact same way my older brother does, and always has

Hey, stay off my lawn!

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:31 pm gen z humor sorry

Nah, I get it.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:22 pmliterally 1984

What do you mean?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:07 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:24 pm*each other lol
One of my favourite typos in context lol

Mine, too. It's like a Freudian slip

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:50 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:47 pm i prefer my interpretation
Well I doubt Mata would.
maybe she is a dom, ever considered that?

Why don't you stop now? Please.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:47 pm i prefer my interpretation

Well I doubt Mata would.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:37 pmmata's a dom?

No Mata is matahari

Dom is Dom as in Dominick.

Yes it does.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:45 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:14 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 am Not if Lucy had anything to do with it. And I still think she did. Her vote yestetday and wanting to eliminate a low poster.
apparently town is starting to finally lynch a lowposter, what do u make of that? why is it townie now and not yesterday?
Excuse me? I am not sure what you are saying here. I found your vote for Bea suspect not so much becasue of low poster status (although I tend to find that baddies in a thread full of strong civvies ultimately always try to eliminate low posters BECAUSE they are low posters. Who else can you eliminate, really, if the civs are all vibing together? You either make aggressive cases against active civvies, or you default to low posters. It's the baddie way) as because you had a choice of two low posters, with 2 posts each, and you chose Bea, who had content up to that point, as opposed to Soneji who had zero content to that point. Then lo and behold like a little bit later, who shows up but Soneji? That was one of those things that make you go hmm.

Like I said, i find low posters as easy pickings for baddies, low lying fruit, as it were. You don't have to agree with me, but that is how I feel.

What low poster is the town lynching now?

But in any case, I am more interested in who you suspect (unless it's all low posters?)

Linki @Golden will do.

Linki @Kate I could be wrong. I don't ever recall seeing bad Mata, although i know I must have. And I said i know she has irl. I was asked a question, that was my take on it, but last I looked, I was ultra far from infallible lol. What is the case on Splints specifically? I am still replying to my @ and haven't read much of the thread, only skims.

I've been mafia with Mata before and she was far more active than this. We had a 4 woman mafia team in a reywas game. The theme was like, his favorite TV characters or summat. I'm not saying she definitely civ, I'm just saying she seems more civ than splints. I just read her posts and there's nothing in there even worth quoting. Take a look and let me know what you think.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:18 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:51 am @S~V~S - re 'one of splints and mata'

If you had to pick one as wolf right now, which feels righter in your gut.
Mata. Splints is always a hard read for me. She hasn't done/said anything that made me crook my head. With Mata, it's more "lack of" than anything she's done, if that makes sense. And I know Mata has irl concerns. But but. I just feel better about Splints, she seems to be forming the right thread connections, if that makes sense. But again, she doesn't really have any tone tells, she is admirably proficient at having a very flat, steady presence in games, regardless of affiliation. But Mata is more lack of what I expect, and that's how I elimmed Bea in Game 1. Lack of rather than actual suspicious behavior.

I mainly included Neon in my GTH becasue i was not sure about Jack, but Neons own content has not set off any bells.

I don't think I agree, I remember Mata as a player who starts off slow and gets more engaged once the game is rolling. Plus I know she's been pretty sick. Her posts have seemed like she's trying to help in the time she's got available.

On the other hand, splints has been more spotty and disorganized than Mata. Has she made any guesses or stated opinions? I'm going to look through her posts.

But, gun to head, as you said I'd vote splints before Mata.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:34 pm [VOTE: splints] aubergine

I’ve been flirting with it for a while

I was legitimately just about to do this as I was reading svs's posts.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:29 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:27 pm I'd like to be done with this topic now, k?
What would you like to talk about next?

I don't know...the state of the nation?

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:15 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:14 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:10 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:09 pmtrying
don't backpedal, you said i was a strong player, what is the reasoning behind that statement?
I'm not backpedaling. I said you are a strong player who tries hard.
you haven't explained why you believe i'm a strong player

People, in general, make the thread more fun and the game more solvable by being strong actively players. I haven't played with you long enough to really categorize you, if that's what you're asking.

I'd like to be done with this topic now, k?

@lucy why don't you want the thread to talk about anything but you? It's stifling discussion at this point.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:10 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:09 pmtrying
don't backpedal, you said i was a strong player, what is the reasoning behind that statement?

I'm not backpedaling. I said you are a strong player who tries hard.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:08 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:19 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:13 pm Well I assume it would be genuine or was genuine if you are civ. If you're bad it would be distancing or deflection to a less important role.
what's your current read on me?
you missed this @Kate

Wolf lean.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:02 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:51 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:49 pm I think you're a strong player. It would certainly take more than 1/2 a game for me to get a feel for your overall style. I like that you're active, it makes the game more fun.
why?

and likewise
Why what?
why do you think i'm a strong player and why do you not have a feel for my overall style right now?
i thought i've been playing like a baboon so i just wonder why you believe i'm a strong layer

Because regardless of your alignment you are trying and actively participating. I don't think one can accurately get a feel for a person's playstyle or personality in just a few short days od gameplay.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:51 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:49 pm I think you're a strong player. It would certainly take more than 1/2 a game for me to get a feel for your overall style. I like that you're active, it makes the game more fun.
why?

and likewise

Why what?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:48 pm Are you orienting your perception of people around what their perceptions are of you, Lucy?

No u

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:45 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:40 pm separate question: do you believe i'm good at mafia? @Golden
@Kate same to you

I think you're a strong player. It would certainly take more than 1/2 a game for me to get a feel for your overall style. I like that you're active, it makes the game more fun.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:24 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:23 pm Like, yknow, this stuff is the reason the old school players aren’t letting up on you.
i've made a decision to hold back no longer

You've been holding back??

Yikes, Dennis cover your eyes lol

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:20 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:10 pm The argument has been that Sean would have killed himself so the town would at least get the info from his claimed civ flip. There was an argument in the thread about whether a tie or a civ lynch was worse. Sean thinks a tie is worse.
You continue to misrepresent the argument even though I have clarified multiple times. It is getting to the point where I think it might be intentional.

Well ots certainly not intentional, fyi we all have rsv or some similar miserable virus so I may be a bit foggy minded. I also admit to having neither a crystal ball nor a photographic memory lol

Seriously though, if I misrepresented what you've said I apologize but that's my interpretation of the situation.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:11 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:08 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:06 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:54 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:09 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:16 am Lucy certainly thinks he's bad. Something to think about for sure.
so you value my reads? why?
Because I tend to think y9ure bad so if you're hollering that scotty is bad, there is a very specific reason for it.
what would that reasoning be?
Why don't you tell me?
i wouldn't know, i'm a civ, i'm seeing if you actually thought of things that would qualify as "specific reasoning", or if you're saying something just to say it

Well I assume it would be genuine or was genuine if you are civ. If you're bad it would be distancing or deflection to a less important role.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:06 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:54 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:09 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:16 am Lucy certainly thinks he's bad. Something to think about for sure.
so you value my reads? why?
Because I tend to think y9ure bad so if you're hollering that scotty is bad, there is a very specific reason for it.
what would that reasoning be?

Why don't you tell me?

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:04 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:53 pm @Soneji are you submissive and breedable
@Kate what of you?

I'm married, rhats about as far as I'm going with that. I'll also remind you that my kid is in this thread.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:32 pm scotty is a wolf, i'm 70% sure

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:41 pmscotty is a wolf

Here you go.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:58 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:54 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:09 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:16 am Lucy certainly thinks he's bad. Something to think about for sure.
so you value my reads? why?
Because I tend to think y9ure bad so if you're hollering that scotty is bad, there is a very specific reason for it.
I didn’t hear the hollering. I heard some pointed come-ons but that’s about it

I believe that post shes referring to was yesterday.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:09 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:16 am Lucy certainly thinks he's bad. Something to think about for sure.
so you value my reads? why?

Because I tend to think y9ure bad so if you're hollering that scotty is bad, there is a very specific reason for it.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:43 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:28 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:34 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:19 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:04 pm I'mma unvote in a minute if nothing changes

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:01 pm Uhh keep in mind a tie is a no elim
So I kind of like here that Seanzie didn’t want the tie, but then the second post. I’m making assumptions based on the final vote, but it would have seemed to be tied here wilgy 5 - Sean 5. Wouldn’t his “unvote” make him be eliminated? I’m all for the “info is better than no info” (it’s why I hate the sleep option) but if you are town wouldn’t it be better (in your opinion) for anyone to be eliminated other than you who you know is town? The suspicious part of me is wondering about Seanzie’s motive for this
What does the suspicious part of you think Seanzie's motive was?
That maybe he’s mafia? I’m not sure what clarification you are looking for here
what is the mafia motive for saying I was going to unvote to avoid a tie? How does it help mafia!Seanzie? Walk me through that.

Saying it and doing it are NOT the same thing. You were trying to avoid getting lynched and it worked, regardless of alignment.

The argument has been that Sean would have killed himself so the town would at least get the info from his claimed civ flip. There was an argument in the thread about whether a tie or a civ lynch was worse. Sean thinks a tie is worse.

Doesn't this plan just, potentially, identify civilians. What exactly are we trying to gain with this plan? Keep in mind it's very late and I'm running on fumes.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:41 am Also I had a thought that I think is a good thought and I’m surprised we didn’t bring this up in D1:

I think we should utilize the roles better. I contend we should AIM to tie the vote today. But this is only preferable if we ALL consolidate onto 2 people.

Thoughts?

We also seem to be forgetting that the mafia can void 2 people's votes, or is that what you're saying?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:19 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:18 am Isn't there only 3 mafia?
I meant the group of 4 people in Golden's OG inactives.

Oh.

Yes, there are 3. I double checked, one for each of the words in the game's title.

I just reread the roles and no one is specified as having the kill so I would assume any of them could send it in.

@Dennis

Isn't there only 3 mafia?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:07 am @Kate how are you vibing with scotty?

I've only played once with scotty before this game, I immediately thought he was bad until he clearly became supatown. This game, I didn't think he was bad until Sabi made that remark, which made me doubt him but now we know that statement meant nothing because Sabi was civ. Scotty will get a read though from me this day period. Lucy certainly thinks he's bad. Something to think about for sure.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:07 am Where does that list of reads take me?

It takes me to 'I really think it's time I focus on the roxy/mata/splints/bea group', given they represent half of the people I don't have a proper good townread on yet and they are people I should theoretically be able to get a grip on.

This was my EXACT thought when I saw no death. How likely do you think it would be that one of them missed the night kill PM.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:14 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:13 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:07 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:00 pm I'm fine with dying, I really am busy with work and real life stuff atm so I can't and don't have the energy to fight for my life.

I request yall to kill Golden and Seanzie next when I do die. Don't kill scotty over some diachomy that doesn't exist.

Anyway have fun the rest of the phase. Have to get back to work.

Why would we kill scotty after you die based on a dichotomy if you were anything but Mafia??

I read your iso and there is little to even comment on.

I trust the people voting here. Therefore, [VOTE: Sabi] aubergine
Except seanzie. Still unsure in him.

@Golden you're right, it was Sabi.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:00 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:58 pm Golden there is less of a vibe with us this game because you snowed the hell out of me last game. That is still sticking in the back of my head a little to not blindly trust, even though I want to.
We are also reading things more differently than we usually do. But that's OK, like I said, I would still defend the hell out of you if anyone came to elim you today.

I'm civleaning you for sure, I'd list you 3rd after Dennis and svs. But I know, new metas and all...

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:57 pm @Dennis

I already partially answered this. You didn’t always get the answers. That didn’t read like you had BTS partners to me. Also if your faking naivety, you wouldn’t have kept asking questions for fear of looking TOO naive.

I played a long time, and catching BTS slips is kinda my thing. I don’t think you have BTS.

And I played with your mom for many years, we ran a site together for a time, we hosted together, we were pretty close irl. When we play together, one of the first things i do is sort her, and I bet she does the same.

I am not seeing anything to make me think she’s bad. She’s more serious and her fun posts feel more forced. Not seeing that.

Now really bbl

This reminds me of Lucy's "slip" or not slip when she said not to lynch scotty on a false dichotomy or something like that. No one responded to me and I failed to go back to it, partially because I was thinking if lucy and scotty were 2 wolves that Sabi was the 3rd.

Golden there is less of a vibe with us this game because you snowed the hell out of me last game. That is still sticking in the back of my head a little to not blindly trust, even though I want to.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:33 pm Yay no death! Good job Doc

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:18 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:28 am Dennis Dennis is asking the right questions, at first I thought he was maybe being coached, but I don't anymore. Leaning more town than not
This caught my eye when I was going back, what is it that changed your mind about me being coached?
Mainly when I am bad, and have a nub on my team and they ask basic questions in chat, I tell them to ask in the thread, acting naive looks civvie. If you were in chat with any OG they would have told you the same. So there was that.

Then, not a big thing, but just one of those things that make you go hmmm, that day zero back and forth you had with your Mom felt kinda, not scripty, but not entirely spontaneous either. But that would require both of you to be bad, and I’m pretty positive she isn’t, and you feel pretty sincere to me, too.

That’s how I play. I see a thing that catches my eye, and watch. Not quite understanding some of the explanations you got, I just got the sense you didn’t have BTSC partners. Which in this game means civvie. No masons here.

I would never perform by script

@Dennis who are you looking at today? Top 3 guesses for baddies?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:18 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:28 am Dennis Dennis is asking the right questions, at first I thought he was maybe being coached, but I don't anymore. Leaning more town than not
This caught my eye when I was going back, what is it that changed your mind about me being coached?

Although, you definitely surprised me with how well you caught on, I don't think you're being coached. You're pretty much ridiculously smart.

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