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- Fri May 19, 2023 11:01 am
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- Thu May 18, 2023 10:17 pm
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No, no, you did SO Great. That was a lot of fun. I had a pit full of nerves in that last night phase of us going back and forth
- Thu May 18, 2023 7:24 pm
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I never clear anyone on bussing anymore. Ever
- Thu May 18, 2023 6:56 pm
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Hugggggs!!!
- Thu May 18, 2023 6:55 pm
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Holy shit, what a game!
- Thu May 18, 2023 6:52 pm
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Omg, excellent job spf and excellent job town. I'm super excited
- Thu May 18, 2023 6:52 pm
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YESSSSS!!!
- Tue May 09, 2023 5:00 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
Well night is ending, you have my read and advice good luck town
Ted, hopefully one day you'll consider me a top player.
Love you all!!!
Ted, hopefully one day you'll consider me a top player.
Love you all!!!
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:50 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
It matters for purposes of this argument. You backed yourself into a corner.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:49 pmbut you agree with me that falcon was in anti-spew and that he "knew that you weren't going to shut up", right? so how does that align with your belief that i was sitting there waiting to eliminate someone that wasn't falcon?Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:44 pmI believe this eod was a bit of a surprise. I was having trouble getting people to vote with me on falcon.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:38 pminteresting. i would just say that when i interact with my partners in a way that is staged/set up, i tend to do it in a way that is intended to create distance, and my interactions with falcon didn't really do that. for example, think of the way i interacted with creature in the game that we wolfed together, and then think of the way that i interacted with falcon here.Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:35 pmYou and he were in lock step yesterday (eod yeaterday). There were breaks where you were chatting to each other. And your responses started to seem in sync.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:32 pm right, but the only reasons you've given me to work with are: "SPF self-voted" and "SPF is doing a strategy i don't like", so if you do have reasons that extend beyond that, you will need to be more clear about them
what do you find wolfy about my interactions with falcon? what do you find wolfy about the timing?
i asked him questions multiple times, which is one of the main ways that i scumhunt/understand other ppl. i don't really understand what it means for us to be in "lock step" and it doesn't make sense to me without you being more specific
I think originally you held your vote to throw on any other wagon that may occur. When that didn't happen, you "jokingly" self voted bc it would look too obvious if you threw your vote on falcon at eod. Falcon who you claimed to be 60% sure of.
the reality of the situation is that falcon was the obvious designated elimination for the entirety of that EOD, and there was no chance that anyone other than him was going to die, period
and again, why did it matter at all if i voted falcon at the EOD? he was guaranteed to die
im sorry kate, but this is just bad gamestate analysis
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:48 pm
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Do you remember this moment?Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:31 pmThat's far from the only reason I've given. I figured out it was you yesterday, before you self voted and you knew it. That's why you asked me if I thought you were wolf.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:29 pmno, you've played well, but you are scumreading me because i self-voted as a joke and because you are failing to understand a really basic strategy. i'm not trying to be condescending, but that doesn't make you any less wrongKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:28 pmNow this post is just condescending. I've played like a lost townie thus far?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm the fact that i tied seanzie on d1 when it would have been extremely easy to make anyone else go over and the fact that i actively POE'd falcon throughout yesterday and showed no resistance to him dying should be evidence enough that i'm townsiding and that i'm not playing with a specific agenda, but i did self-vote once so i guess that's pretty scummy
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:46 pm
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I was pointing out the spf's vote for seanzie wasn't the worse case of bussing by far. In the last game I hosted seanzie almost got epignosis lynched on his own by bussing.tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:43 pmim asking about spf, but maybe i read the post wrongKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:42 pmNeon is a ginormous busser. Self admittedtedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:41 pmhave you played with her and she bussed unnecessarily fypov?Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:27 pmWow, have you ever seen neon bus? Bc that's nothing compared to her!tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:24 pm i'm not really sure i could do spf without any words as to how / why they're a wolf
i don't view her as someone who would lunch their partner d1, especially when they got villa read early. now it does seem like maybe she couldn't have known he'd die? but a lot of us were saying he could be a wolf so it's still a risky move
i thought you were saying "have you seen neon bus? spf is even worse than her at bussing / she busses more"
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:44 pm
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I believe this eod was a bit of a surprise. I was having trouble getting people to vote with me on falcon.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:38 pminteresting. i would just say that when i interact with my partners in a way that is staged/set up, i tend to do it in a way that is intended to create distance, and my interactions with falcon didn't really do that. for example, think of the way i interacted with creature in the game that we wolfed together, and then think of the way that i interacted with falcon here.Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:35 pmYou and he were in lock step yesterday (eod yeaterday). There were breaks where you were chatting to each other. And your responses started to seem in sync.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:32 pm right, but the only reasons you've given me to work with are: "SPF self-voted" and "SPF is doing a strategy i don't like", so if you do have reasons that extend beyond that, you will need to be more clear about them
what do you find wolfy about my interactions with falcon? what do you find wolfy about the timing?
i asked him questions multiple times, which is one of the main ways that i scumhunt/understand other ppl. i don't really understand what it means for us to be in "lock step" and it doesn't make sense to me without you being more specific
I think originally you held your vote to throw on any other wagon that may occur. When that didn't happen, you "jokingly" self voted bc it would look too obvious if you threw your vote on falcon at eod. Falcon who you claimed to be 60% sure of.
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:42 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
Neon is a ginormous busser. Self admittedtedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:41 pmhave you played with her and she bussed unnecessarily fypov?Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:27 pmWow, have you ever seen neon bus? Bc that's nothing compared to her!tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:24 pm i'm not really sure i could do spf without any words as to how / why they're a wolf
i don't view her as someone who would lunch their partner d1, especially when they got villa read early. now it does seem like maybe she couldn't have known he'd die? but a lot of us were saying he could be a wolf so it's still a risky move
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:40 pm
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Yea, I don't think sostaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:39 pmwell thanks for confirming to me that it is just confirmation bias lolKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:36 pmBecause it's a strategy only a town could apply.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:33 pmwhy?Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:32 pmNo, the strategy is not AI you pretending to be using it is AI.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:31 pm well i don't care if you think the strategy is good or not, because it has worked for me in dozens of games and it will work for me in this game too. i just care that you're acting like the strategy is alignment indicative
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:37 pm
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Which is exactly what you did here.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:29 pm i do have the capacity to bus but i bus in a way that guarantees i get to live until endgame. surviving to endgame as a wolf here after two wolves die back to back is not really a viable path for me in any world
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:36 pm
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Because it's a strategy only a town could apply.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:33 pmwhy?Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:32 pmNo, the strategy is not AI you pretending to be using it is AI.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:31 pm well i don't care if you think the strategy is good or not, because it has worked for me in dozens of games and it will work for me in this game too. i just care that you're acting like the strategy is alignment indicative
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:35 pm
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You and he were in lock step yesterday (eod yeaterday). There were breaks where you were chatting to each other. And your responses started to seem in sync.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:32 pm right, but the only reasons you've given me to work with are: "SPF self-voted" and "SPF is doing a strategy i don't like", so if you do have reasons that extend beyond that, you will need to be more clear about them
what do you find wolfy about my interactions with falcon? what do you find wolfy about the timing?
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:32 pm
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No, the strategy is not AI you pretending to be using it is AI.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:31 pm well i don't care if you think the strategy is good or not, because it has worked for me in dozens of games and it will work for me in this game too. i just care that you're acting like the strategy is alignment indicative
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:31 pm
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That's far from the only reason I've given. I figured out it was you yesterday, before you self voted and you knew it. That's why you asked me if I thought you were wolf.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:29 pmno, you've played well, but you are scumreading me because i self-voted as a joke and because you are failing to understand a really basic strategy. i'm not trying to be condescending, but that doesn't make you any less wrongKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:28 pmNow this post is just condescending. I've played like a lost townie thus far?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm the fact that i tied seanzie on d1 when it would have been extremely easy to make anyone else go over and the fact that i actively POE'd falcon throughout yesterday and showed no resistance to him dying should be evidence enough that i'm townsiding and that i'm not playing with a specific agenda, but i did self-vote once so i guess that's pretty scummy
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:30 pm
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............no matter how many periods you put, you're not going to convince me that this is a sound plan.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:27 pmwell yes....................but i think you're missing the pointKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm.....well you're not GUARANTEED a win if no one in your POE is a wolf...or if you yourself are a wolf.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:22 pm.....because that's how the strategy works? you put yourself in the POE because you still have a guaranteed win even if something goes wrong and you get miseliminatedKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 3:40 pmOk. But this doesn't make my posts or feelings about you wrong. So, if I don't die tonight, I would have 3 people in my poe and myself which makes no sense, bc we'd win as soon as we lynch the one wolf who obviously isn't me. So I'm not grasping why you're putting yourself in there unless you are acquiescing that youre play is wolfy.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:27 pm just to clarify, the strategy that i'm using to win the game is one that i borrowed from jaggedjimmyjay. you take the number of eliminations left in the game and then subtract one (assuming that you will be a miselimination yourself), to create a POE that you are confident about winning the game
so my goal is simply to find 3 names that i am confident need to contain the final mafia and then force the rest of the game to sheep that solve if i ever die. given the amount of people in this game that feel obviously town, this is a very doable task
don't really know how else to explain the strategy to you. it's not about "accepting your play as wolfy", it's about guaranteeing a win through POE
the point of the strategy is that you are creating a POE that should win the game even IF you get eliminated. you are creating a path to victory and a list of eliminations that will win the game even if you are one of those eliminations. it's not a "guaranteed" win since mafia is a guessing game
i'm sorry but it's just not that hard to understand. i really don't have any other way to explain it. i am far from the first person to use this strategy and this is far from the first time i have used it
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:28 pm
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Now this post is just condescending. I've played like a lost townie thus far?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm the fact that i tied seanzie on d1 when it would have been extremely easy to make anyone else go over and the fact that i actively POE'd falcon throughout yesterday and showed no resistance to him dying should be evidence enough that i'm townsiding and that i'm not playing with a specific agenda, but i did self-vote once so i guess that's pretty scummy
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:27 pm
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Wow, have you ever seen neon bus? Bc that's nothing compared to her!tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:24 pm i'm not really sure i could do spf without any words as to how / why they're a wolf
i don't view her as someone who would lunch their partner d1, especially when they got villa read early. now it does seem like maybe she couldn't have known he'd die? but a lot of us were saying he could be a wolf so it's still a risky move
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm
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.....well you're not GUARANTEED a win if no one in your POE is a wolf...or if you yourself are a wolf.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:22 pm.....because that's how the strategy works? you put yourself in the POE because you still have a guaranteed win even if something goes wrong and you get miseliminatedKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 3:40 pmOk. But this doesn't make my posts or feelings about you wrong. So, if I don't die tonight, I would have 3 people in my poe and myself which makes no sense, bc we'd win as soon as we lynch the one wolf who obviously isn't me. So I'm not grasping why you're putting yourself in there unless you are acquiescing that youre play is wolfy.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:27 pm just to clarify, the strategy that i'm using to win the game is one that i borrowed from jaggedjimmyjay. you take the number of eliminations left in the game and then subtract one (assuming that you will be a miselimination yourself), to create a POE that you are confident about winning the game
so my goal is simply to find 3 names that i am confident need to contain the final mafia and then force the rest of the game to sheep that solve if i ever die. given the amount of people in this game that feel obviously town, this is a very doable task
don't really know how else to explain the strategy to you. it's not about "accepting your play as wolfy", it's about guaranteeing a win through POE
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:24 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
So don't kill me! Easy solutionstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:23 pm sucks that kate is going to most likely die and leave a really bad legacy on me but i guess that is how it goes sometimes
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:20 pm
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She doesn't seem invested in the game enough to go to that level of effort and planning.tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 4:14 pmyeah this seems to be a reasonable angle too, which is likely wifompyxxy wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 3:27 pmif you need some prompts about this exact topic, I'm busy rn but I wrote some questions that I think are good and helpful to researchtedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:48 pmyeah, he wasn't trying to live for surestaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:45 pm i think that falcon was very much in anti-spew for almost the entirety of yesterday, for whatever that is worth. i have seen him try to survive as scum before and i have seen him try to be towny as scum before. what happened yesterday was not that
but his posts on psv are just ~bad, if she's my partner and im falcon, i probably just ignore her with his progression. there was thread momentum against psv previously (lemon / neon both voted, i was hard pushing) and he spends time making posts that make no logical sense w/r/t psv, which would make us feel compelled to flip her
so that just makes me feel like he was trying to set her up after his death. but all of this could be wifom idk
the last bitpyxxy wrote: βMon May 08, 2023 5:21 pmtbd but
Seanzie died with his vote on Kate (who was 99% town and is now obv town and will soon be dead town bc obv town)
falcon died with his vote on Kate (lol) but voted PSV earlier here
falcon also ended with his vote on PSV D1
did falcon seriously push PSV D1? or was falcon's work today an attempt to cover for what was supposed to be light bussing on D1 (i.e. voting PSV) by trying to make it seem like it was just a normal "scum trying to push a townie" push?
"did falcon seriously push PSV D1? or was falcon's work today an attempt to cover for what was supposed to be light bussing on D1 (i.e. voting PSV) by trying to make it seem like it was just a normal "scum trying to push a townie" push?"
but dunno. if psv is a villa then they had really unfortunate progressions and actions with the wolf guys. from villa reading sean based on something that ~didn't happen, to holding a villa read on falcon that she was willing to brush by and then defending him on the basis of "idk these meta points are clashing back to back which makes me think it's a miss"
i feel like even for myself i wouldn't go to that level of powerwolfing in terms of defending team mates
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:18 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
Gth, I'd lynch spf. Read through the day yesterday, her responses to and re: falcon. Also, notice the timing of their posts and the absence of them at the same time (in and around when falcon was present). Try to pay attention to time stamps because this was probably more evident in real time.
If that's no good, go pyxxy. But this is a distant 2nd.
- Tue May 09, 2023 4:05 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Day 2
staypositivefriend wrote: βMon May 08, 2023 1:56 ami think this list ~could~ be pure but even if there is even only one wolf in this pool then i think the game is still easily winnable, barring weird worlds where kate/lemon are mafia and snowing mestaypositivefriend wrote: βMon May 08, 2023 1:55 am not willing to vote today:
kate
lemonfairy
potentialshelter
pyxxy
dennis (probably)
neon (maybe)
to be frank i dont' really care that much about who we eliminate beyond that because i am currently living in a world where the game is easily solvable with another flip or two
Just yesterday psv was your 3rd most townie read. She was on the "almost pure" list. Now she's your top suspect? Can you explain why?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:22 pmas for the final wolf, i think that you and lemonfairy are both clear. i don't think that you would deathtunnel falcon like that if you were a wolf with him and i also think the conviction behind your reads (and the way you have consistently shut down eliminations on players that would be easy to push) is real
i think that lemonfairy is probably clear too because her reaction to both seanzie and falcon dying indicates a lack of TMI - i think it would be tough for a wolf to fake that genuine sense of panic about having her vote parked on seanzie and believing he was going to flip town, and it would be a really suave move for her to pull ooff if she's wolfing
i lean on neon being clear as well, primarily because the conviction behind the way that she defended falcon felt very real to me and it is identical to the progressions i have seen her have in the last two games that i played with her where she was town. i do have some paranoia about her replicating her town meta and just playing a strong wolfgame but i do think she's more likely town than not
leaning on ted being clear as well but this is pending some further VCA - the way that falcon and ted pushed on each other throughout d2 is a weird angle for two wolves to take after a partner has already died, and i think that even in a world where the plan was to set up one of falcon/ted to go deep and endgame, it would have played out differently/more theatrically. i also think the way ted has gravitated back and forth with his read on psv is genuine
it ....could be sixstrings. one thing that does make me worried about him is actually just how consensus-y/"agreeable" his reads were when he checked into the thread, even though he is clearly absent. i would expect a villager who is struggling to play or keep up with the game to not have many confident reads, but sixstrings had a readslist that was almost entirely in agreement with the consensus, which could indicate that he was being fed information by this team - this is the exact tell that i used to catch beggbow wayyy back in season 7 game 6
but on a surface level, i agree that his vote on falcon looks good
as for sig, i don't know - i really liked the depth of thought in his posting when he was around and the only reason i have paranoia about him is probably just the fact that he hasn't been around very much. he could be a wolf in theory but it doesn't really feel right to me
i feel roughly the same about dennis - he ~could~ be mafia but it doesn't feel right. he feels a lot townier than the wolfgame i played with him at the beginning of the year. the timing of his push on both seanzie and falcon would be weird for dennis to do as W, cause i dont think he's the type of scum player to try to solo endgame by himself. i'm actually leaning on clearing him now that i'm writing this out, because my paranoia against him isn't totally justified
i have thoughts about pyx/psv but i don't have time to write them out right now. in short, i lean town on pxy and if there's one townread that i was misclearing on d1, it might be specifically just psv
so my game winning POE rn would look like exactly psv, pxy, sixstrings, and myself. if i had to narrow it down even further, i'd probably vote psv right now based solely on gut
- Tue May 09, 2023 3:44 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
*yourKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 3:40 pmOk. But this doesn't make my posts or feelings about you wrong. So, if I don't die tonight, I would have 3 people in my poe and myself which makes no sense, bc we'd win as soon as we lynch the one wolf who obviously isn't me. So I'm not grasping why you're putting yourself in there unless you are acquiescing that youre play is wolfy.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:27 pm just to clarify, the strategy that i'm using to win the game is one that i borrowed from jaggedjimmyjay. you take the number of eliminations left in the game and then subtract one (assuming that you will be a miselimination yourself), to create a POE that you are confident about winning the game
so my goal is simply to find 3 names that i am confident need to contain the final mafia and then force the rest of the game to sheep that solve if i ever die. given the amount of people in this game that feel obviously town, this is a very doable task
Omg. . @Epignosis
- Tue May 09, 2023 3:40 pm
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Ok. But this doesn't make my posts or feelings about you wrong. So, if I don't die tonight, I would have 3 people in my poe and myself which makes no sense, bc we'd win as soon as we lynch the one wolf who obviously isn't me. So I'm not grasping why you're putting yourself in there unless you are acquiescing that youre play is wolfy.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:27 pm just to clarify, the strategy that i'm using to win the game is one that i borrowed from jaggedjimmyjay. you take the number of eliminations left in the game and then subtract one (assuming that you will be a miselimination yourself), to create a POE that you are confident about winning the game
so my goal is simply to find 3 names that i am confident need to contain the final mafia and then force the rest of the game to sheep that solve if i ever die. given the amount of people in this game that feel obviously town, this is a very doable task
- Tue May 09, 2023 3:03 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
He probably knew I wasn't going to stfu, sometimes I get a little obsess-y when I think I'm right. It worked out ok this time though.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:45 pm i think that falcon was very much in anti-spew for almost the entirety of yesterday, for whatever that is worth. i have seen him try to survive as scum before and i have seen him try to be towny as scum before. what happened yesterday was not that
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:42 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Day 2
Here is one example.of that @tedxtrpotentialsheltervet wrote: βSun May 07, 2023 10:07 pmI mean, idk about you guys, but in this situation I'm bending over backwards to save my partner if at all possible. Lot easier to get to parity with two instead of one. Neither is really a lost cause. Part of it is playstyle differences I guess but I would not be voting my last partner here because that's not going to gain them much cred.Kate wrote: βSun May 07, 2023 10:03 pmWhy? One of them is likely going down today. If they're teammate was on the other wagon, especially early wouldn't that look pretty townie?Lemonfairy wrote: βSun May 07, 2023 10:01 pm side note
falcon/Ted are crossvoting and there's 2 people on both
doesn't really make me think they're w/w
like ok, maybe they could be distancing but it's only D2 and their scumpartner just got elimmed
voting each other is not really the best move rn if they're a team
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:41 pm
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It's not a lot but this one. Psv. Can you verify this is honest? (Tee hee)potentialsheltervet wrote: βSun May 07, 2023 10:05 pmI'm reading, but I don't agree on falcon so I don't want to vote there. Sorry.
Also, iirc she was the one who talked me out of you (ted) being partners with falcon.
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:38 pm
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I play much more by gut and vibes and psv seems awfully genuine to me. There was a post she made where she explained to me why she wasn't voting falcon and it was just so...true? I think that's the right word. I don't think the solve is psv. Let me look for that post.tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:34 pm i also have a pet theory that the only way he could've gotten to psv as a "locked villa" alongside kate on D2 is by seeing seanzie's push there and having the TMI that he spewed her with his treatment, but nobody else had psv as a villager with that level of confidence
i know it's wolfy of me to say this given i've pushed psv all game, but i've re-read and can easily see how someone might think psv is a villa off seanzie.
having 2 confirmed villas is unusual of six (unless i'm wrong? i don't think i've ever seen him declare a villa read with such confidence) especially when one of them nobody was viewing as a locked villa. also dropping 7 villas is unusual behavior too, yes?
this is primarily directed to kate, i assume she played all the games he was in
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:36 pm
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staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:23 pmi'm glad, just wanted to make sure cause i can get heated sometimes too and i don't like tilting ppl lolKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:11 pmstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:08 pmthis seems really passive aggressive but i'm not trying to be sassy with you, just explaining that the stuff you're using to figure out my alignment is not actually going to help you with reading meKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:01 pmThanks for the lessonstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:31 pm i think that you are falling into the trap of scumreading me for playstyle related reasons that have nothing to do with my alignment instead of looking more broadly at how i have played. you are far from the first player who has done that and i'm sure you will not be the last
for future reference, the best way to get a read on me is to ask questions like: "what angles is SPF pushing?" or "does SPF have a clear agenda?" and not: "does SPF do silly things like self-vote?"
I don't take any of this shit seriously or personally. Just trying to have a little fun, I promise. Outside the thread it's nothing but love
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:15 pm
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I thought that's what you'd say lolKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:10 pmThought so lolstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:08 pmboth!Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:00 pmYes, I'm wrong that self voting indicates y9ure wolf or that youre a wolf?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:29 pmit would be harder to find a game where i have not self-voted as either alignment than it would to be to find a gamed where i haven't self-voted, so yesKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:24 pmSo I'm wrong?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:12 pm if you think that me self voting is alignment indicative then you have much to learn about SPF lol
Ebwop*
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:11 pm
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staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:08 pmthis seems really passive aggressive but i'm not trying to be sassy with you, just explaining that the stuff you're using to figure out my alignment is not actually going to help you with reading meKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:01 pmThanks for the lessonstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:31 pm i think that you are falling into the trap of scumreading me for playstyle related reasons that have nothing to do with my alignment instead of looking more broadly at how i have played. you are far from the first player who has done that and i'm sure you will not be the last
for future reference, the best way to get a read on me is to ask questions like: "what angles is SPF pushing?" or "does SPF have a clear agenda?" and not: "does SPF do silly things like self-vote?"
I don't take any of this shit seriously or personally. Just trying to have a little fun, I promise. Outside the thread it's nothing but love
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:10 pm
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Thought so lolstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:08 pmboth!Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 2:00 pmYes, I'm wrong that self voting indicates y9ure wolf or that youre a wolf?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:29 pmit would be harder to find a game where i have not self-voted as either alignment than it would to be to find a gamed where i haven't self-voted, so yesKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:24 pmSo I'm wrong?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:12 pm if you think that me self voting is alignment indicative then you have much to learn about SPF lol
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:07 pm
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So your vote's for pressure or for fun? Because this post jumped off the page at me yesterday. Especially with you and falcon's timing.staypositivefriend wrote: βMon May 08, 2023 12:25 pmbecause i have been using my vote today primarily to add pressure, and i feel that falcon already has more than enough pressure right now. i do not feel certain that it's ted, and i would probably rather resolve the other names in my POE right now (ie: falcon/sig/sixstrings) before i resolve himKate wrote: βMon May 08, 2023 9:46 amMay I ask why you aren't voting falcon? Do you feel certain that it's ted?staypositivefriend wrote: βSun May 07, 2023 6:31 pm for transparency my current POE is falcon, sixstrings, sig, and ted
i think if we live in an easy world, the remaining wolves are in that pool
in a harder world, there's proly one wolf in that pool and one wolf outside of it, but i'm struggling to see who that would be. i think kate and lemonfairy are both hard town. i've gotten quite a few townpings from both PSV and pxy to the extent that i'm not comfortable having them in my POE
i've gotten townpings from both neon/dennis as well but i suppose i feel the less strongly about them than my other townreads, so if i'm misclearing somewhere then my gut tells me it's proly in those two names
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:03 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
So then who is the 3rd wolf?
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:02 pm
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I'm not certain. I just think it's wrong. He's absolutely clueless, falcon and sean would have helped him a little.tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:33 pmhow can you be so certain of that if he's never randed a wolf?Kate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 12:58 pmDennis is civ. I'm fairly positive. I don't believe six is bad either, but further if he had 2 experienced partners like falcon and seanzie he would have done a better job playing.tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 12:40 pm up to EoD1 and feeling like i wanna lunch six the most
it's impressive to me how he's mentioned being new so many times (i had no recollection he actually said it at D1 close to EoD also, and the timing of it was crude too, he had 2 votes on him i believe and the top wagon maybe had 2-3) even tho he's done this before. him keeping on bringing it up just smells like a wolf excusing himself. new wolf players love to do that and as a villa randing the third time, he should've accumulated some knowledge and pursue new avenues, solving more, but instead he repeats the fact he's new before he outs any reads. all this excusing must mean he has some awareness of the thread, but instead of commentating on the important things, he picks the self-defence angle.
and idt he's clearable from voting falcon, it's pretty much the only avenue that team can take and have ~any sort of a fighting chance
nobody else feels like a wolf that's posting itt up to EoD1 to me (didn't get to the seanzie flashwagon but yah). maybe dennis? but for some reason it feels wrong
and afaict his villa play is to start slow as well, on surface level there isn't ~too much of a difference in activity of posting and number of posts, am i wrong?
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:01 pm
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Thanks for the lessonstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:31 pm i think that you are falling into the trap of scumreading me for playstyle related reasons that have nothing to do with my alignment instead of looking more broadly at how i have played. you are far from the first player who has done that and i'm sure you will not be the last
for future reference, the best way to get a read on me is to ask questions like: "what angles is SPF pushing?" or "does SPF have a clear agenda?" and not: "does SPF do silly things like self-vote?"
- Tue May 09, 2023 2:00 pm
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Yes, I'm wrong that self voting indicates y9ure wolf or that youre a wolf?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:29 pmit would be harder to find a game where i have not self-voted as either alignment than it would to be to find a gamed where i haven't self-voted, so yesKate wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:24 pmSo I'm wrong?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:12 pm if you think that me self voting is alignment indicative then you have much to learn about SPF lol
- Tue May 09, 2023 1:25 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
I mean, you're the one that said this solve was easy.
- Tue May 09, 2023 1:24 pm
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So I'm wrong?staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 1:12 pm if you think that me self voting is alignment indicative then you have much to learn about SPF lol
- Tue May 09, 2023 1:06 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
@Neon do you still policy vote self voters?
- Tue May 09, 2023 1:01 pm
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We have civ cleared so many people, I think the only people it could be are spf or pyxxy.
Spf pinged the heck out of me yesterday. She put herself in her own poe and then voted herself when she believed there was a 60% chance falcon was bad.
Spf pinged the heck out of me yesterday. She put herself in her own poe and then voted herself when she believed there was a 60% chance falcon was bad.
- Tue May 09, 2023 12:58 pm
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Dennis is civ. I'm fairly positive. I don't believe six is bad either, but further if he had 2 experienced partners like falcon and seanzie he would have done a better job playing.tedxtr wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 12:40 pm up to EoD1 and feeling like i wanna lunch six the most
it's impressive to me how he's mentioned being new so many times (i had no recollection he actually said it at D1 close to EoD also, and the timing of it was crude too, he had 2 votes on him i believe and the top wagon maybe had 2-3) even tho he's done this before. him keeping on bringing it up just smells like a wolf excusing himself. new wolf players love to do that and as a villa randing the third time, he should've accumulated some knowledge and pursue new avenues, solving more, but instead he repeats the fact he's new before he outs any reads. all this excusing must mean he has some awareness of the thread, but instead of commentating on the important things, he picks the self-defence angle.
and idt he's clearable from voting falcon, it's pretty much the only avenue that team can take and have ~any sort of a fighting chance
nobody else feels like a wolf that's posting itt up to EoD1 to me (didn't get to the seanzie flashwagon but yah). maybe dennis? but for some reason it feels wrong
- Tue May 09, 2023 12:27 pm
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I'm glad we agree it's not Dennis.staypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 12:17 pm if the falcon wagon was clean and the seanzie wagon was not, it means exactly lemonfairy or neon is the final mafia
and i really dont think it's either of them, especially lemon
- Tue May 09, 2023 12:25 pm
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Re: Summer Sh*t Night 2
Why did you put yourself in your own POE?
- Tue May 09, 2023 12:25 pm
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It could also be youstaypositivefriend wrote: βTue May 09, 2023 12:17 pm if the falcon wagon was clean and the seanzie wagon was not, it means exactly lemonfairy or neon is the final mafia
and i really dont think it's either of them, especially lemon