The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:This goes out to Lame Porcupine~

Oh I forgot to vote? Lame.

I have to go, so I'll vote mata for now.

Nah, unfortunately they aren't good. :/

And I'll try and make sense of what I can.

linki

Yes I'm quiet. And I am lost. Family matters left me with so little time earlier that I missed so much and am currently out of it.

Cool!

Sorry I was busy for so much of this game I'm really entirely lost. I'm just going to vote Epi and leave it at that.

If I took games too seriously they wouldn't be any fun.

RIP. Definitely gonna be looking at those who voted for him that day.

;D

I choose door #2.

Also, I wanna say I don't think this is what it seems, but if it isn't what sort of punishment is that? Hmm.

>SpaghettiEverywhereEverywhere

Sorry guys, I didn't expect to sleep till 8:15 today.

Chaos.

Lots of stuff happening lately.

I really don't have time to read much. I'm voting INH.

Oh, the vote ended today. Crud.

Dom wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I didn't ignore it. It just wasn't relevant to what I was saying. Also that's basically it. You seem mudslingy to me this game. Maybe it's just me, but it's what I see.
I guess what I'm asking is: what does that mean to you?

You're slinging mud to see what sticks.

It's self-explanitory.

It's a pingy thing for me because it looks like you're trying to create this whole guise of working hard for civs when in reality you seem to me like you're throwing suspicions all over the place. Just an opinion of mine.

I'll keep my eye on you.

I don't suspect you as much as I would have if bea flipped baddie though.

I didn't ignore it. It just wasn't relevant to what I was saying.

Also that's basically it. You seem mudslingy to me this game.

Maybe it's just me, but it's what I see.

Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I'm voting for Mongoose.

Dom wrote: It's not about being single minded. It's about throwing the entire pot of spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Wait... Are you saying you're doing this or someone else? Because you've been very single minded tbh, first with Snow Dog then me.
I'm saying I don't think you're being single minded, I think you're throwing everything out there hoping for something to stick...

What a coinky-dink. That's exactly what I mentioned I thought you were doing earlier.

Okay I'm going to go with bea. If she dies and is bad Dom will more than likely be my next vote.

Or the improper your!

Does Dom seem a little mudslingy to anyone else?

Dom wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I ended up voting him because if he was civ he wasn't helping. I didn't really have anything much in the way of baddies so I decided to vote a person who wasn't around at all anyway.

It's more so I didn't have suspicions, so I'd rather give it a shot with someone who wasn't around than someone who was actually potentially helping the cause.
So you voted for someone you believed to be civvie? And you had no other suspicions?
Not Bullz, Bea, Snow Dog, Me, Aces, Epig, or GOB on the list of some of the people who have been dicussed at some length? You suspected NONE of them? So you voted for someone who you felt was a CIVVIE

Wow. What the hell kind of game are you playing?

Never once did I say that. In fact I was actively trying to make it clear I was not saying that.

I ended up voting him because if he was civ he wasn't helping. I didn't really have anything much in the way of baddies so I decided to vote a person who wasn't around at all anyway.

It's more so I didn't have suspicions, so I'd rather give it a shot with someone who wasn't around than someone who was actually potentially helping the cause.

Alright since Boats still isn't showing I guess I'll just vote him anyway since he's not really helping anything.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Sullivan asked, "Are you Vompatti?" Vompatti lifted his head and responded, "ture".

RIP boo.

Russtifinko wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Also to throw stuff out there, well boo is one of my suspicions like I just said with the vote. Honestly I don't really have many. 3 games is hard for me to keep up with! I'll make sure never to do this again as it would seem I haven't learned the first million times I've done this.

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Besides this Boo vote you just seem so non committal. You just won't be pinned down. Now playing too many mafia games..I get that. I have done the same thing. You don't make it easy though. Wishy-washy. That is how I would describe you answers. Wishy-washy.
Ok you are saying that boats had time to skim the posts and his thoughts in, what was it..12 minutes? I mean if that is right the bottom falls out of the whole theory. Personally I don't know..never timed myself.

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Based on how long my reread yesterday took (hours, to get everything straight), I doubt it's possible. Boats may be a faster reader than me. However, I doubt he's THAT much faster.

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See that's the thing. You read thoroughly. Some people don't have the time and, sorry to say, patience to read hours of posts, so the posts get a quick skim, and often not all of them. Boats seems like a pretty slack (not meant negatively! meant in the sort of laid back way.

) guy from what I see of his play, so I think that's quite a possibility. Also, I think I'm gonna lose this contest. Gah.

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Also to throw stuff out there, well boo is one of my suspicions like I just said with the vote. Honestly I don't really have many. 3 games is hard for me to keep up with!

I'll make sure never to do this again as it would seem I haven't learned the first million times I've done this.

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I'm going to vote boo. His llama vote fits in with what I was imagining earlier and people already have dirt on him. Seems like the good choice.

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Epignosis wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote: What I mean is I'll often skim quickly and then summarize what I gathered from that. Usually when I find there is too much to read thoroughly at the moment. Would seem he did the same.

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Would you kindly answer my concern? You "don't really feel he's bad" and yet you "don't think he's civ or anything." What is your stance on him? He's not shown up to speak for himself- and you seem okay doing so.

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I did reply a few posts up. Said it meant I have no opinion on his alignment as of now. Also that the "figment of my imagination" theory is possible as well.

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Snow Dog wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
nutella wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:^I don't know I can't feel a vote for Boats today. Don't really feel he's bad. Maybe just me though.

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...Ooooo-kayy?? Care to explain why you feel this way? Any particular reason? You're being mysterious. o_o
Or are you just being defensive of his being quiet, because you're pretty quiet too

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I don't think he's civ or anything, but I don't really suspect him for what he did. Like I explained earlier, I admittedly do the same thing lots. Even when I'm civ. Also in the few games he's played, this behaviour seems very regular for him. Not anything I'd like to jump on him for really. But that's just me.

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Wait a minute- you "don't really feel he's bad" and yet you "don't think he's civ or anything."

I'm having a difficult time reconciling these statements. What do you think he is then, a figment of our imagination?

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The bit I don't understand is DP saying "I admittedly do the same thing lots". The same of what lots? Reading really quickly and then posting a short time later with thoughts? Could you expand on this DP?

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What I mean is I'll often skim quickly and then summarize what I gathered from that. Usually when I find there is too much to read thoroughly at the moment. Would seem he did the same.

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Epignosis wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
nutella wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:^I don't know I can't feel a vote for Boats today. Don't really feel he's bad. Maybe just me though.

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...Ooooo-kayy?? Care to explain why you feel this way? Any particular reason? You're being mysterious. o_o
Or are you just being defensive of his being quiet, because you're pretty quiet too

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I don't think he's civ or anything, but I don't really suspect him for what he did. Like I explained earlier, I admittedly do the same thing lots. Even when I'm civ. Also in the few games he's played, this behaviour seems very regular for him. Not anything I'd like to jump on him for really. But that's just me.

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Wait a minute- you "don't really feel he's bad" and yet you "don't think he's civ or anything."

I'm having a difficult time reconciling these statements. What do you think he is then, a figment of our imagination?

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It means I don't think he is civ and I do not think he's bad. In other words I have no opinion on his alignment right now. But who knows, maybe I am imagining him.

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That's true that we don't have much to go on. I really don't have much of anything myself. And yes it is a pain, but meh. That's the point and we all went along, haha.

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nutella wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:^I don't know I can't feel a vote for Boats today. Don't really feel he's bad. Maybe just me though.

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...Ooooo-kayy?? Care to explain why you feel this way? Any particular reason? You're being mysterious. o_o
Or are you just being defensive of his being quiet, because you're pretty quiet too

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I don't think he's civ or anything, but I don't really suspect him for what he did. Like I explained earlier, I admittedly do the same thing lots. Even when I'm civ. Also in the few games he's played, this behaviour seems very regular for him. Not anything I'd like to jump on him for really. But that's just me.

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^I don't know I can't feel a vote for Boats today.

Don't really feel he's bad. Maybe just me though.

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RIP Elohcin.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Epignosis, What do you think of Llama's "B is for baddie" theory now? I mean, now that he has turned out to be civ. I cannot find the quote right now, but I believe Bullz was included in his theory, but bea voted for bullz Day 3.

1 - Don't worry Snow Dog, I will be the loser in this event.
Well I'll reply to you to help your posts.

For myself I don't hold any credence with the B for Baddie theory. Just another wild llama idea. Even though he was civ, doesn't make him right.

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I think it sounds like a pretty silly idea. But you never know. From what I've seen of llama in previous games, he seems to have good intuitions. Some people are just good at that kind of thing. Then I think, if the roles were given randomly, then what are the chances, right?

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To comment on the "B" votes thing, I'm in agreement with you Elo that it does seem a tad silly. However, one thing in my style of play that I am working on is my confidence. Often I flush out a good deal of baddies and do not have the confidence to see it through. (JLvA Mafia, Avant Mafia, just to name 2). I think as it relates to llama, (the gambit, Plan B) I can see how he might be in the right place, on the right track, and things work out so unbelievably well that nobody follows through....

To say that a little clearer, I hope that "it seems too good to be true" is not enough to turn everyone away from being confident in their pursuits.
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This is completely unrelated to everything you said, but I thought I heard a cat with a stylish haircut ask me about suspicions didn't you? Well in the event of that I'll just hope they know that I think those who started the thing on llama are in my thoughts. Him being easily exploited for his BWT defenses and all.

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Mongoose wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote: I have not currently considered that possibility, though in all fairness, nobody has made a particularly educated case against anyone with that criteria (too late to save bwt, so X threw him under the bus). If someone did do that I would take that case into consideration. And considering the trend of the thread at the minute I think alot more cases and educated posts are about to crop up. I take full credit.

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BWT's voters are indiglo (5), Elohcin (10), Spacedaisy (11), Epignosis (15), AceofSpaces (17), nutella (28), LittleTiger (29), DFaraday (32). I'm not sure there was actually a point where BWT was unsaveable looking at the voters, DF was the final one and he broke the tie between BWT and Ace, guaranteeing that BWT would die. While that makes me think DF probably isn't BWT's teammate it doesn't seem to do much else unless I'm missing something obvious among those voters.

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DF is probably not BWT's teammate, but let's look at the waves of voting. This wasn't one huge landslide of late voters (just three: nutella, LT and DF) but then there was a middle wave of voters all strung together too (Elo, Spacedaisy, Epi and Ace). I'm more interested in the proximity of those votes.

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I'd look at early ones too. I think him defending BWT is a very easy thing to take advantage of and turn people against him with. The baddies realized that and hopped on him.

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Like sacrificing one baddie for the survival of all? I guess that seems plausible this early in the game. LT was already killed off out of those three, so are only left with two late voters.

004.

Woops, I was thinking of llama votes for that comment! Haha sorry about that. I'm not sure about the idea of sacrificing like that. I haven't seen it myself. However I do stand by the fact people who led the thing on llama should be eyes a bit.

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Mongoose wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote: I have not currently considered that possibility, though in all fairness, nobody has made a particularly educated case against anyone with that criteria (too late to save bwt, so X threw him under the bus). If someone did do that I would take that case into consideration. And considering the trend of the thread at the minute I think alot more cases and educated posts are about to crop up. I take full credit.

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BWT's voters are indiglo (5), Elohcin (10), Spacedaisy (11), Epignosis (15), AceofSpaces (17), nutella (28), LittleTiger (29), DFaraday (32). I'm not sure there was actually a point where BWT was unsaveable looking at the voters, DF was the final one and he broke the tie between BWT and Ace, guaranteeing that BWT would die. While that makes me think DF probably isn't BWT's teammate it doesn't seem to do much else unless I'm missing something obvious among those voters.

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DF is probably not BWT's teammate, but let's look at the waves of voting. This wasn't one huge landslide of late voters (just three: nutella, LT and DF) but then there was a middle wave of voters all strung together too (Elo, Spacedaisy, Epi and Ace). I'm more interested in the proximity of those votes.

001.

I'd look at early ones too. I think him defending BWT is a very easy thing to take advantage of and turn people against him with. The baddies realized that and hopped on him.

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Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

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I had my doubts. I think it was mostly because his defending of BWT was made so clear. I usually think a baddie wouldn't put themselves in the clear so much in that situation, but who knows.

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Lame result. RIP!

Considering I pull that crap all the time I'm reluctant to jump on Boats, but I'll keep an eye on him.

Goin with Lizzy. Just don't see llama being bad I guess idk.

I don't feel like voting llama.

Sorry i suck at vote

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:I'm not going to have Internet for the rest of the weekend, and I have to vote now.

I'm going to vote for myself, as I do not have enough time to read through a thread.
Zuh? This game is nuts.

Can someone explain the voting for yourself thing? YOu know 100% that you are on your own team, whereas with anyone else there is at least a chance you get someone of the opposite team, so why do it? Ever?
It's a gambit.

I did it once like Day 5 because I didn't feel like deciding who to vote for between the two suspects. Needless to say, people came after me.

And RIP you wonderful song.

To add onto that, once a game really winds down it's slightly understandable, but going after someone for being quiet early in the game is something I could never understand. Hell even late in the game I would only go after a quiet person as an absolute last resort. I rarely see going after a quiet person work.

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