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thellama73 wrote:Put it on Rabbit. Make Rabbit stew.MovingPictures07 wrote: I don't know what to do with my vote.
Long Con wrote:The Detectives have BTSC without it being listed, so the Arch-Villains COULD have BTSC. Makes more sense for the two Zooms to have it than Grodd... although I watched the latest Flash episode last night, and it introduced Gorilla Grodd, and Grodd considered Professor Zoom to be a father to him, so maybe it does make sense for Grodd to be connected in that way. However, I don't believe Grodd is connected to either Reverse Flash in the comics, so I don't see any reason why the host would connect them that much in the game.
I don't read Flash comics, but I did read Grodd's wiki page. It says he has "vast psionic powers", which meshes with the Gorilla in the show last night, so I would assume he is the one mind controlling people.
Good points. I was just going over all the win conditions and this meshes very well. So I guess Zoom was a baddie in a sense. But a baddie IMO who had no BTSC. At least from what I can tell.Long Con wrote:The way I see it, the Detectives need to take out the New Rogues, just like the Old Rogues need to do. That makes their goals at least Civvie-aligned, so Professor Zoom's goal of killing them was anti-Civvie. If we see the Detectives as Civvies, then they're, like, the BEST Civvies, because they have BTSC, they have info-checking, dead rolechecking, and some other powerful benefits.rabbit8 wrote:thellama73 wrote:It keeps me alive longer, and I am helping you with your win condition (unless you are a New Rogue, that is.)rabbit8 wrote:thellama73 wrote:Professor Zoom (???????) – He wants to kill the Flash family more than anything else in the world. He’ll search every even night for a Flash. if he finds either Wally or Barry, that Flash will die.rabbit8 wrote:thellama73 wrote:Well that's rather a relief for me. BIH Aces.
OK I'm confused as hell. This is a baddie role? I thought they where like Indy roles.
I give up trying to understand the roles.
Great result if these are baddies then.
I don't know about the rest of, but given my rather public role, I'm glad he's dead.
But technically you're not really a civvie in this game, you're an Indy with a team. This lynch in no way helps me with my win condition.
IDK I have more time now and I'm trying to figure this game out.
Maybe, or maybe not. You could be NKed or recruited. Either way lynching Aces does not help me win. In fact I don't see anyone who needs that role dead to win EXCEPT the New Rouges (The Baddies).
Correct me if I'm wrong though.
And, as a side note, I'd wager that Abra Kadabra rezzed Llama, which I take as a big sign that he is choosing to go with a Civvie-aligned Indy victory. So that's nice.
thellama73 wrote:It keeps me alive longer, and I am helping you with your win condition (unless you are a New Rogue, that is.)rabbit8 wrote:thellama73 wrote:Professor Zoom (???????) – He wants to kill the Flash family more than anything else in the world. He’ll search every even night for a Flash. if he finds either Wally or Barry, that Flash will die.rabbit8 wrote:thellama73 wrote:Well that's rather a relief for me. BIH Aces.
OK I'm confused as hell. This is a baddie role? I thought they where like Indy roles.
I give up trying to understand the roles.
Great result if these are baddies then.
I don't know about the rest of, but given my rather public role, I'm glad he's dead.
But technically you're not really a civvie in this game, you're an Indy with a team. This lynch in no way helps me with my win condition.
IDK I have more time now and I'm trying to figure this game out.
Devin the Omniscient wrote:By Aces!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the line between civvies and baddies in this game is rather blurred. I initially thought that the Arch-Villains were the most obvious baddies. I still think they are, but I just realized that we don't actually know what their win condition is.
On second thought, after rereading win conditions, the New Rogues are the most obvious baddie team. Lol.
I think these are indy players with no BTSC.Mister Rearranger wrote:Each of these characters have been The Flash's biggest threat from time-to-time. They have unique conditions for winning that the Rogues are not aware of at this time.
thellama73 wrote:Professor Zoom (???????) – He wants to kill the Flash family more than anything else in the world. He’ll search every even night for a Flash. if he finds either Wally or Barry, that Flash will die.rabbit8 wrote:thellama73 wrote:Well that's rather a relief for me. BIH Aces.
OK I'm confused as hell. This is a baddie role? I thought they where like Indy roles.
I give up trying to understand the roles.
Great result if these are baddies then.
I don't know about the rest of, but given my rather public role, I'm glad he's dead.
thellama73 wrote:Well that's rather a relief for me. BIH Aces.
I think he is bad in this game. If I refer to another game I would think he was _____ in that game.Devin the Omniscient wrote:rabbit8 wrote:Devin the Omniscient wrote:What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.
Devin the Omniscient wrote:What was his role alignment in Keller? Assuming that was another mafia game.
thellama73 wrote:Have you been reading his posts? He's not interested in doing anything but feeling sorry for himself because I and BF and Rabbit suspect him.. It's literally three people. I can't understand why he is so upset over it.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why would Bullz self-vote? Unless he was cursed.
Welcome MP, nice to see you again!
As for Bass 2.0 voting for timmer as well without saying anything, I don't know what to make of it.
Bullzeye wrote:I'm not saying you should suspect anyone for coming after me, never have and never will. In fact, I've got a hilarious idea which I won't share til close to my lynch (whether that's day four or day fifty) that might lead to a decent suspect. It's the kind of theory that, if you share it too soon, you warn the baddies against taking the action that would otherwise condemn them. As for proving people shouldn't be listened to, certain people are acting like I'm so obviously bad and they should obviously be listened to and followed (one of these was BF, fwiw) and so proving them wrong would correct that a little.
Linki - There's still a 50% chance I'm an Old Rogue, and a reasonable chance I'm independent. In that case, I'd be siding with the civs because as much as I say indies are lame for always doing that, there's a good reason why it happens.
thellama73 wrote:Welcome Devin!
Bullzeye is bad. Roxy is bad. I'm good, and so are several of my friends. I think that's all you need to know.
DharmaHelper wrote:Why does it feel like BF's suspicion of me boils down to "I just don't like him". >_>
Long Con wrote:You showed up for your ninth post of the game very soon after I called you out for only having 8 posts. And this S~V~S vote is very sketchy. I'll also join the list of people who have already voted. *votes Aces*AceofSpaces wrote:Votes are changeable, so I'm going to join the list of people who have already voted. I voted for S~V~S because I agree with everything Dharamahelper is saying. She has not done anything that has thrown off my day 1 suspicion of her.
Your pictures are working MM.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ok, perhaps if
do this,
I did not. Just in case you're wondering.Long Con wrote:Ok, for the first time, I may understand Spacedaisy's point of view there. I never got how she could see the statements as contradictory... Spacedaisy, did you read the first comment as me calling FZ heavy-handed?DharmaHelper wrote:Now I understand your whole "That was my read of the situation" comment, but my read of the situation is that LC is calling Llama's tactic heavy-handed, not FZ's case. And that there is no turnaround, but a follow-through in the post you quoted.
Roxy wrote:I am not an indy I am as close to. a civ that you can get this game.timmer wrote:I'm so sorry MM, I really can't follow this, lol.
Interesting that Epig was apparently killed by an Old Rogue, I was starting to believe he WAS one,so I'll just trust that that role knows what they are doing.
Regarding DH and SVS... I am getting sleepy and must head to bed, but tomorrow I've got a lot of rereading to do, to find all of the people who weren't keen on a Bass lynch. it won't mean that they are all bad, but it will provide some insights.
And finally regarding Roxy, I've moved to a bit more of a neutral stance on her, I believe she may be an indy and I don't think I will be pursuing a lynch in her direction today.
Funny all you have talked about is how bad I am when I was silenced as soon as I am able to speak I become neutral to you. convenient. very convenient
Um hum.Long Con wrote:Sure, you weren't cursed, sure. I wonder if that means you were cursed, but you can't tell us. How do you feel about blindfaeth, rabbit?rabbit8 wrote:Long Con wrote:Ok, that last post was sarcastic, since I brought him up first.
Same thing happened to me, except it was Rabbit that was trying to discredit the case.DharmaHelper wrote:If it were me, I'd go back and look at SVS and FZ since they both practically jumped down my throat after I voted Bass.
Sure I was not cursed during the day, sure.
If I were trying to say something like that, my sentences would have probably contained at least some of those words.Are you actually trying to say because you voted for Bass second to last you are not a baddie with him?
OK.
Long Con wrote:Ok, that last post was sarcastic, since I brought him up first.
Same thing happened to me, except it was Rabbit that was trying to discredit the case.DharmaHelper wrote:If it were me, I'd go back and look at SVS and FZ since they both practically jumped down my throat after I voted Bass.
Long Con wrote:Pretty sure Epig has made it reasonably clear why we would look at Llama voters. It's mathematically more likely to find a baddie, because none of those people are Detectives.
Sure, there's probably a baddie, maybe two among those six people. And so the rest of the baddies are among the rest of the people. Maybe a couple are in the Llama voters. Do you think Epig voters are a baddie-free group?Bass_the_Clever wrote:Sorry that yoou feell cheated because I havvnt been posting a ton. Let me ask you something do you think theres a good chance a baddie could be among those six people? I have seen people on mafia teams do that almost every game.Long Con wrote:I didn't miss it TH, it's Game of Thrones time.
I'm most suspicious of Bass right now.Turnip Head wrote:Rabbit vs. LC feels like civ vs. civ to me. Where are you looking for this lynch, LC?
This statement gave me a ping, it's casting a broad suspicion across six people while not directly going after any of them. This is the kind of thing that pushes people to follow its lead and make accusations, which Bass could then follow along with if it seems like it could catch on. Also, at 23 posts, he's flying under the radar quite a bit.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I agree that options on day one suck most the time. I think it might be worth looking at the people who avoided the two top vote getters. I would almost bet one out of the six are bad. I'm not counting timmer because he wasn't caught up.
So, saying there's probably a baddie in a group of six is just not a really pertinent piece of information, especially when it's the cornerstone of your biggest opinion put forth in this game.
Sophie wrote:LC vs rabbit seems too....rogger rabbit.
rabbit is acting weird, though. Upon reading him go against LC, he seemed like he was under some kind of curse or kinda faking something, and this is coming from someone who usually thinks rabbit is a civvie. Yeah, i pretty much always thinks he is civvie, even if he is baddie. but i dont know, something seemed off in his posts.
but this is just an impression after a very fast read of the last 3 pages. beare with me, but ive been super busy today (election day here in BA) and my brother is coming to visit me tomorrow. add that to work and university and boyfriend and you got a picture. i will be reading and contributing as much as i can, but this is not gonna be a week with much free time for me. at least until next monday, cause first my brother comes, then my grandma turns 90 and we both travel to our natal city, so all in all is an insane week.
i will do my best to remain updated.
having said so, gotta go to sleep now, its super late, but will be back tomorrow to read and reread players that caught my attention. mainly epi and bullz, but also roxy, rabbit, lc and timmer. im not saying im necesarily suspicion of all of them, but some things said in the last pages caught my attention and i need to reread, go back, read again, and make my conclusions.
now to sleep its late
He's acting overly civvie.......Turnip Head wrote:I feel pretty good about BF. What are you seeing?rabbit8 wrote:Turnip Head wrote:Rabbit vs. LC feels like civ vs. civ to me. Where are you looking for this lynch, LC?
Maybe you should vote BF?
Turnip Head wrote:Rabbit vs. LC feels like civ vs. civ to me. Where are you looking for this lynch, LC?
Long Con wrote:Rabbit, let me lay it out for you: you are the one who's not helping the Civvies right now. If you look at all my posts with the idea they're all fake, then you'll read them as all fake.rabbit8 wrote:I'm disappointed you're not really helping the civvies but are trying make it look that way, LC.
I have no idea how you feel. I only know what you're portraying.
FZ. wrote:I guess I deserved thatrabbit8 wrote:FZ. wrote:Bullz, thank you for the answer. Did you read what I said about Epi? Did it make any difference? If not, why?
If he's bad, why would he want to look like an indie and not a civvie? To survive NK, or is there another reason for it?rabbit8 wrote:You feel like making statements with your day 1 votes. It never works. Why do you do it? Like voting for people who self vote to stop that behavior. Or this game, making the statement that Lama was trying to hard to show his civvie game in some artificial way. What a load. I feel like you're trying to hard to be seen as an Indy, TBH. But hey, do as you do.Long Con wrote:I don't have much to say about rabbit thinking I'm bad. I don't understand his reasoning - he seemed to have the same opinion of my response post to blindfaeth that Soneji had, that it was saying nothing... but that's not true. His recent post about me using the same ineffective reasoning as I had in other games, well, I don't really know what previous reasoning he's referring to, but I'm sure he'll be happy to clarify.timmer wrote:Roxy is def. on my list of people I'd like to hear from. Also, I'd like to know what Sophie thinks, once she locks in on a game she often has good instincts about things.
And I haven't played with rabbit in forever, but I remember his instincts being pretty good too, so I'd like to see what LC has to say about rabbit's calling him bad.
I don't feel great about bullz' posts about bf, either.
I'm also not following his vote for blindfaeth today, he will or he won't talk more about that.
What makes you feel not great about bullz' posts about bf? Do you mean how he called him out on likely being a Detective?
BF is bad. You are too.
And can you repeat again why you think BF is bad? I'm on the fence with him. Not sure what to make of him. I've never played with him again, nor with you, I believe (so hi). He seems to badly want to lead the game. My question is, is that something he'll do as a baddie?
IDW I just get the feeling BF is bad.
Playing up the civvie card if you ask me.
Still, it's way easier to just keep saying someone is bad without having to back it up with anything else. At least I tried.
FZ. wrote:Bullz, thank you for the answer. Did you read what I said about Epi? Did it make any difference? If not, why?
If he's bad, why would he want to look like an indie and not a civvie? To survive NK, or is there another reason for it?rabbit8 wrote:You feel like making statements with your day 1 votes. It never works. Why do you do it? Like voting for people who self vote to stop that behavior. Or this game, making the statement that Lama was trying to hard to show his civvie game in some artificial way. What a load. I feel like you're trying to hard to be seen as an Indy, TBH. But hey, do as you do.Long Con wrote:I don't have much to say about rabbit thinking I'm bad. I don't understand his reasoning - he seemed to have the same opinion of my response post to blindfaeth that Soneji had, that it was saying nothing... but that's not true. His recent post about me using the same ineffective reasoning as I had in other games, well, I don't really know what previous reasoning he's referring to, but I'm sure he'll be happy to clarify.timmer wrote:Roxy is def. on my list of people I'd like to hear from. Also, I'd like to know what Sophie thinks, once she locks in on a game she often has good instincts about things.
And I haven't played with rabbit in forever, but I remember his instincts being pretty good too, so I'd like to see what LC has to say about rabbit's calling him bad.
I don't feel great about bullz' posts about bf, either.
I'm also not following his vote for blindfaeth today, he will or he won't talk more about that.
What makes you feel not great about bullz' posts about bf? Do you mean how he called him out on likely being a Detective?
BF is bad. You are too.
And can you repeat again why you think BF is bad? I'm on the fence with him. Not sure what to make of him. I've never played with him again, nor with you, I believe (so hi
You feel like making statements with your day 1 votes. It never works. Why do you do it? Like voting for people who self vote to stop that behavior. Or this game, making the statement that Lama was trying to hard to show his civvie game in some artificial way. What a load. I feel like you're trying to hard to be seen as an Indy, TBH. But hey, do as you do.Long Con wrote:I don't have much to say about rabbit thinking I'm bad. I don't understand his reasoning - he seemed to have the same opinion of my response post to blindfaeth that Soneji had, that it was saying nothing... but that's not true. His recent post about me using the same ineffective reasoning as I had in other games, well, I don't really know what previous reasoning he's referring to, but I'm sure he'll be happy to clarify.timmer wrote:Roxy is def. on my list of people I'd like to hear from. Also, I'd like to know what Sophie thinks, once she locks in on a game she often has good instincts about things.
And I haven't played with rabbit in forever, but I remember his instincts being pretty good too, so I'd like to see what LC has to say about rabbit's calling him bad.
I don't feel great about bullz' posts about bf, either.
I'm also not following his vote for blindfaeth today, he will or he won't talk more about that.
What makes you feel not great about bullz' posts about bf? Do you mean how he called him out on likely being a Detective?
blindfaeth wrote:I voted for Bullzeye.
