The Syndicate

well if everyone else wants to kill me, who am I to argue?

that was creepy, kooky, and altogether ooky

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:12 pm 19 Days/Nights jesus

with 48 hour days, natch.

and we're still in phase 1

when in doubt, vote JoH

is there a set schedule for these polls, or are you just deploying them at random/when someone tries to vote out speedchuck?

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:28 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:25 pm well the night poll just completely fucked all my shit up

thanks g-man
HOW DO YOU KNOW ANY ACTIVE ROLES FALL INTO EITHER CATEGORY?

well the night poll just completely fucked all my shit up

thanks g-man

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:44 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:37 pm INH, if this is so important to you, why don't you just shoot Speedchuck yourself? You have a nightkill, right? Take one for the not team.
Because I want to win.
Good luck with that.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:37 pm INH, if this is so important to you, why don't you just shoot Speedchuck yourself? You have a nightkill, right? Take one for the not team.
I do not.
That's okay. There's no way they can kill you until you respawn as a 7 either.

Excuse me? I have a kill, why can't I use it on Epi?

Can we get G-Man to provide some clarity on this?

Epi might have to wait until the very last second to vote for Speed, which could be tricky due to the conniving fuckers on the Prime team.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:37 pm INH, if this is so important to you, why don't you just shoot Speedchuck yourself? You have a nightkill, right? Take one for the not team.

Because I want to win. I thought it'd be a good idea to give this duty to the guy that doesn't care about winning.

You either gotta kill him or cast the vote that makes him the guy with the most votes.

Linki: Hopefully Day 19 will work for that.

whoops

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:26 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:25 pm I have access to the Lucky 7's kill, and I'd be happy to continually use it on you.
Then we have a deal.

My understanding is that I have to be the LAST voter on speedchuck, is that correct?

No, it's more needlessly convoluted than that. You have to either send in a kill on, or cast the clinching vote. Here's G-Man explaining what the hell a clinching vote is.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:52 pm A CLINCHING VOTE IS THE VOTE THAT SECURES YOUR LYNCH RELATIVE TO ALL THE OTHER VOTES CAST THAT DAY.

FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU RECEIVE FOUR VOTES AND THE NEXT HIGHEST RECIPIENT ONLY GOT TWO VOTES, WHOEVER VOTED FOR YOU THIRD CLINCHED YOUR LYNCH.

I have access to the Lucky 7's kill, and I'd be happy to continually use it on you.

1. The primes winning due to a clear numbers advantage would be boring.
2. Speedchuck coasting to phase 2 simply because no one can eliminate him would be boring.
3. Impervious roles like Speedchuck's only serve to eliminate possible game outcomes, making the game more boring.
4. If I'm not in the Primes, and I want to win, Speedchuck will have to go eventually. I think it's fairer for someone who isn't devoted to winning the game to jump on the Speedchuck grenade than watch someone work hard only to lose to a dumb overpowered role mechanic. Picture an endgame where it's three active players on one team versus Speed on one team. One of those players would essentially have to sacrifice themselves, and that'd make anyone unhappy to go all that way only to lose for IMO BS reasons.

Voted JoH out of stubbornness.

why is sig's name in all caps on the poll

i sense shenanigans

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:54 pm
Sloonei
4
31%
Voters: nutella, Jackofhearts2005, speedchuck, Elohcin
I'm going to try and kill one of these four people with the Lucky 7's kill on Night 17. Remember, there isn't going to be a Night 16.

Or, they could switch to someone else.

Or, they could kill me.

I'm pleased with any outcome.

At least I kept my word

When you avoid killing Speedchuck and ask to be killed in order to get out of the Lucky 7's only to immediately be reincarnated back into the Lucky 7's:

Yo Sloonei, before you turn into a Prime stooge, could you do me the solid of putting me out of my misery?

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still picking cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:01 pm I apologize for my smugness. I figured I'd get people riled up and see what happened.

I dislike coasting.

Dude. Your role might as well be called "the Coast Guard."

If you're gonna basically do nothing and coast on your role's notoriety, at least own up to it. I can respect honest pragmatism that doesn't hurt anyone else, but not when you cover it up with hypocrisy.

If you dislike coasting, you need to find yourself a new role.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:23 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:47 pm All that the braggadocious and shit-talking Primes are doing is ensuring that people won't want to work with them when they're in a less than powerful position. Burning bridges and making enemies isn't advised in a game where things turn on a dime.
I'm sorry. You think the primes burned a bridge with you?

They're being annoying. Really, you're being annoying. Right now, our opinions don't matter, but in a game this bonkers, they potentially could later on. I just think the smuggery should be dialed back, for your sake more than ours.

Hey, DDL, you wouldn't happen to be my Lucky 7 teammate, would you?

Couldn't kill you to log onto BTSC once in a blue moon.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:46 pm Who wants to die?

Speedchuck. Vote for him. It's more or less a done deal. Just cast a vote, and don't check the thread again for another 24 hours or so.

(sarcasm)

All that the braggadocious and shit-talking Primes are doing is ensuring that people won't want to work with them when they're in a less than powerful position. Burning bridges and making enemies isn't advised in a game where things turn on a dime.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:22 pm And I'll do everything in my power to keep anyone who kills Speedchuck from moving roles and thus becoming a 7.

It's stuff like this that makes me want to get rid of the Primes, even if their advantage will most likely be nullified by the time Phase 2 runs around.

I'm beginning to think that this game is based on Jean-Paul Sartre's No Exit.

okay jesus christ i'm done spamming the thread with dumb circular arguments with epignosis

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:52 am Well, that was a waste of a Lucky 7 reincarnation.

On that note, are we ever going to do something about #13? 'Cause most of you are going "I embrace death and welcome deaths", except your own of course - which is fine, human self-interest, I get it. But in keeping speedchuck on his only role forever, you do realize, the more we head into the final stages, the worse the odds for any non-Prime faction will be. Meaning by the end of it, only choices will be : a) let him survive the game and have the Primes always be +1 ahead of any other group; b) get rid of him and probably doom yourself for good.

And to have spent four-five months in a game, only for the Primes to grab an easy win (assuming they're the faction the Host has hinted as faring best, so far), especially with an spooko unkillable player in their ranks, can only lead to two thoughts:

1) I'm on that team myself, so everything's dandy.

2) Angery.

This post explains why I want Speedchuck out. Even ignoring the advantage to the Primes, I still think having a role that's ridiculously tricky to kill is stupid, especially when people on the special team which cures his curse can't even kill him. It takes an interesting idea a step too far, and makes it deliberately unpleasant for the players. That seems to be a theme in this game, though. (coughTHEMOTHERFUCKINGBOMBcough)

Valar morghulis, Epi. For Speedchuck to die, someone has to give up their right to win. I thought, well, luckily there's a person who loudly and proudly forfeited his right to do so on Day 0.

There are only two motivations for you not eliminating him, Epi.

Obstinance or self-interest.

Both make you a poser in my eyes.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:40 pm That isn't an offer either. That's asking a favor of me. That would be me offering YOU something.

I don't care if I win. Just because I don't care if I win doesn't mean I'm going to serve you or anybody else.

There's literally no reason for you to not do this, (unless you're lying) other than pure obstinance.

If you want to sit in your corner in self-satisfaction instead of actively improving the game for every other person, feel free.

But it makes you a poser.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:40 pm That isn't an offer either. That's asking a favor of me. That would be me offering YOU something.

I don't care if I win. Just because I don't care if I win doesn't mean I'm going to serve you or anybody else.
Such cynical, much aloof, very wow

if you listen closely to the wind every time Epignosis posts you can hear a quiet whisper coming from the heavens...

...poser...

i'm more like Michael Douglas in Falling Down at this point, except instead of something from the breakfast menu, I just want to get rid of Speedchuck's dumb unbalanced role, due to it personally annoying me. Seeing as I have nothing to do in this game other than wait to be reincarnated in a relevant and interesting role, i'm just going all in.

hey epi are you doing that thing where you make an argument more and more nebulous to try and make it where no one bothers to read it anymore

cause you can just say "i wanna win the game, so i'm not eliminating speedchuck," and save me some consternation.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:27 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:18 pm THE THING I AM TRYING TO GET EPIGNOSIS TO RESPOND TO
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:33 pm Hey Epignosis. You've smarmed off about not caring about winning the game due to its inherent inferiority. Care to put your money where your mouth is by eliminating Speedchuck and removing a broken, overpowered part of the game that'll make it more tolerable for the rest of us?
HERE'S HIM QUOTING PART OF IT WHILE BEING FACEITOUS
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:40 pm Sorry I smarmed all over your plan.
AND HERE'S WHAT HE SAYS WHEN I QUESTION HIM ON IT
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:50 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:42 pm
Did you read my earlier offer to you, Epi?
I must've missed it.
Translation: Epignosis is refusing to answer my goddamn post, and he most likely sees himself as very clever for doing so. He's also still a poser.
I went through your entire post history (77 posts at the time) looking for your "offer."

I didn't see any offer. The post you quoted here isn't an offer.

I'm not refusing to answer your post. You called it an offer, but you've offered me nothing. In my more generous reading, I took it as a rhetorical question.

I think if you truly have no interest in winning the game, you'd have no problem eliminating Speed. The fact that you keep inventing justifications proves your poser-hood. What I was offering you, to quote the original post, was an opportunity to "put your money where your mouth is." And, to quote another one of my posts:

[Epi can] eliminate Speed in an heroic act of self-sacrifice. Or, alternatively, [as] a middle finger to G-Man for writing role #13 in the first place. Either one'll work for me.

I don't think you've provided a satisfactory explanation for why you're not willing to jump on the Speedchuck grenade. All of this furious quoting is just an attempt to knock down your flimsy excuses for not giving a clear reason.

I can get on board with the Primes winning the game even if I'm not one of them if they choose to lynch people that irritate me.

Just putting forth that offer.

THE THING I AM TRYING TO GET EPIGNOSIS TO RESPOND TO

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:33 pm Hey Epignosis. You've smarmed off about not caring about winning the game due to its inherent inferiority. Care to put your money where your mouth is by eliminating Speedchuck and removing a broken, overpowered part of the game that'll make it more tolerable for the rest of us?

HERE'S HIM QUOTING PART OF IT WHILE BEING FACEITOUS

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:40 pm Sorry I smarmed all over your plan.

AND HERE'S WHAT HE SAYS WHEN I QUESTION HIM ON IT

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:50 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:42 pm
Did you read my earlier offer to you, Epi?
I must've missed it.

Translation: Epignosis is refusing to answer my goddamn post, and he most likely sees himself as very clever for doing so. He's also still a poser.

that was like the fifth time you chose to not respond to what I said, by the way.

poser

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:02 pm what the hell happened here

So basically:

one third of the players are primes and are dominating the game, one third have no idea what's going on and don't particularly care, and are treating this game as essentially one big joke, one sixth have overpowered roles that they're using to fuck with people, and the remaining sixth are trying to organize people in some proactive or at least entertaining way and failing miserably.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:56 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:53 pm does this mean that epi can't spout his "i don't even care if i win" spiel in any "fake mafia" game he willingly signs up for ever again?
It doesn't mean anything other than I like watching the world burn.

By not eliminating Speedchuck, all you're doing is ensuring he'll win the game, or screw a single person over. That ain't exactly world burning material. And you sound less cool when you say that than you think you do.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:56 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:53 pm does this mean that epi can't spout his "i don't even care if i win" spiel in any "fake mafia" game he willingly signs up for ever again?
It doesn't mean anything other than I like watching the world burn.

Translation: I get to call him a poser every time he says it.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:52 pm (Tbh my primary goal is for whoever killed me in my last role to not win the game because seriously I'm so pissed)

It was Elochin. She was on Lucky 7's, and was seemingly the only other member active than myself. I didn't send in your name for a kill, so trusty ol' process of elimination says...

does this mean that epi can't spout his "i don't even care if i win" spiel in any "fake mafia" game he willingly signs up for ever again?

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