The Syndicate

speed are the role descriptions somewhere? I can't find them.

Thanks speed for hosting a great game. My role's penultimate action was to bring Scotty back after he died but I needed another night to do that (and speed said it would work even if the mafia killed me the same night). My role card said it was important not to reveal that piece so I knew spirit was bad when he started revealing I was kind of a doctor cause he had to have seen the warning not to reveal that part. I really just kept the spot warm from Golden's spectacular play though and I believe he should be able to fly the winners banner. Also good job everyone I played with.

Does the day end at 10 central time? I hope so, I can't stay up much longer.

lol thanks speed

Maybe speed will end the day early.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:53 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:52 pm I see we are all still on Colin and there's only been one post so there's nothing for me to do really.

Colin isn't fighting, so I take that as a concession.

Ah yes, good observation.

I see we are all still on Colin and there's only been one post so there's nothing for me to do really.

well I'm here. Is that you space daisy???

I had Mac n cheese

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:13 am Now let's lynch Colin and see if that ends this thing.

Agreed!

OMG Daisy! Great work! And great work Mac! Great work everyone!!!!

I think this will work out ok, I just want to remind everyone that I have to vote early tomorrow morning at the latest because I will be traveling tomorrow. I should arrive at my destination before EOD BUT the last time we made this trip the internet didn't work when we got there and we had to wait for someone who knew how to make it work. So, I want to be prepared just in case that happens by voting before we leave.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:17 am Wait a tick. Damn. Somebody about to shoot somebody and you don't wait to hear from me?

I can't tell whether she used the shot late and speed just wasn't awake or whether she waited. I guess we'll see soon.

Busy night. I agree with the plan for Daisy to shoot sprityo. Also, Epi should be able to confirm whether he targeted me last night. Nothing bad happened to me in the night so if he targeted me it didn't hurt me, thank you Epi. That would rule Epi out in my mind from being PP. Also I can confirm Daisy targeting Golden after hinting is what caused Golden to call her civ.

Scotty, rip damn it. I'm hopeful we will win anyway though.

What else? I'm going to read Colin but are there any other questions directed toward me?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:43 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:22 am
Epi, so you are saying you're not a doctor? Why did you say earlier you are a doctor? What are you then?

When I claimed doctor the first time, I wasn't entirely lying: My original role was such that if my target was the mafia's pick to go bye-bye that Night, I would go bye-bye in that person's stead. The existence of my role implied that there had to be precious civilian abilities out there to preserve.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:07 pm I'm the doctor.

Now what.

I figured if the sole purpose of my role was to make like Jesus and save someone from death at my own expense, I might as well see if I could draw a kill the old fashioned way.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:44 am I'm not a doctor. I was trying to draw a kill, but that isn't going to happen now.

Maybe it was a stupid plan, but hey, I tried.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:40 am

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:21 am I feel like one of the doctors should protect me in the next night phase tbh. Just a request.

Sorry. I already targeted you last Night.

I targeted Golden Night 1, just as I said here.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:42 pm Hey guys I'm an independent doctor.

This was just me amusing myself.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:53 pm
Golden-Mac

Teammates 2483

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:28 pm
It is the year 2483, and I brought you here to try the Brew of the Modern Gods. Pip Lagosi.

This was also just me amusing myself.

Now, in 2483, something interesting happens.

I get elected.

The result of that election was the removal of the consequence that I would be eliminated when successfully protecting someone.

Guess what that makes me?

A damn doctor.

Wow, cool, thanks for the great explanation.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:26 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:25 pm Sprityo, mind sharing with the class what golden’s/Juliets Entire role is?

Do you want me to outright say it?

It’s basically a doctor

Golden said this once and I will say it again, I am a searcher and I found my person early in the game. Why would you say things like this if you are civ? It looks like you are trying to place a target on my back.

Hmmm food for thought Mac re Colin.

Colin, sorry if I missed this but who is on your potential baddie list at this time?

Thanks you guys, this happens to be Golden's submission so I am happy if elected.

Epi, so you are saying you're not a doctor? Why did you say earlier you are a doctor? What are you then?

I'm very surprised about sig because here, he universally is accepted as bad but his voting for Mac says otherwise.

[mention]Golden[/mention], Moobyworld was exactly my thought too!

Mac, I'm glad to see someone else sees U-Pick when they look at Kyle. Kyle I hear what you're saying about your meta and maybe I should look at another game. Can you name one where you were civ?

I have work again today so I'll be back this afternoon and then I will need to vote tomorrow if I live tonight because I will be enroute to the lake on Friday and not sure I'll get there before EOD and many times the internet doesn't work immediately when we get there. Good news is EOD will be at 10 instead of 11 cause I'm changing time zones so maybe I will be able to keep my eyes open that long, lol!

EOD is past my bedtime in this game so is anyone thinking we should do something else besides vote lap?

Question for the group: do we believe there is only 1 mafia left? If so the voting makes sense. If not, then I think we should reconsider.

Ok I'm joining the club [VOTE: Lap] aubergine. We still have a full day as sprityo points out and I'm going to keep reading people so am subject to change but I could see it being lap.

Thanks Epi, Daisy and Kyle.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] ! I have just received a message from the host and can now answer your question differently. I was able to use an item but unfortunately it didn't give us any information that we didn't already have. Thanks for trying though!

So I just resumed my reading and decided to read lap since she was short. There was hardly anything there. She did indicate some suspicion for Luna but we don't know if Luna was bad and even if she was bad lap could have been bussing, though it doesn't seem like something she would do. She indicated she's on vacation now, unlikely to catch up, and she hasn't been back. What do those of you who have voted for her (I think that's Daisy and Epi) see that causes you to vote her over anyone else?

[mention]Kylemii[/mention]: I didn't get an item last night

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:03 pm @juliets btw did you learn anything last night

The only thing my role learns has already been disclosed to the thread. Did you learn anything last night?

I started reading your ISO and fell asleep - not because you are boring but because I was tired. It did occur to me as I was reading though that I felt like I was reading Kyle from U-Pick and that's not good (for those who don't know Kyle was bad in U-Pick and had us fooled so bad that he almost won). So Kyle, would you say there is a difference between your game here and your game in U-Pick? If so, what is that difference?

Thanks sprit. I don't remember ever seeing such a role before.

Also, I meant to say before that I am in agreement with trying to find someone that Scotty, Daisy and I can agree on. With that in mind I'm going to read Kyle, lap and Epi. I hope they didn't post as often as Golden.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:51 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:38 pm Scotty why Epi? I don’t think he is bad, I’m willing to listen to why you might but I really really would like you and Juliet’s and I to find someone we can agree on today.

Colin, did you get your vote doubled? If so, where are you planning on putting them?

Epi, my problem with Kykeis he spent more time apparently defending and helping a 3P than he did scum hunting. And I still think he trusted me very easily at the beginning of the game. But much like lapluie, with him it’s less what he did wrong and more what he didn’t do much at all.

It’s just circumstantial based on his confidence that mac wasn’t going to die and then he did.

Was Mac strongarmed? Did Epi actually protect him? He never said it, only implied it.

I could very well vote lap or Kyle. As I said much earlier- nutella had BTSC with nijuu in GOC and the former was bad while nijuu was not, so an indie BTSC with mafia doesn’t seem unlikely as any other.

Lap I got nothing. Read her as town early but she’s just not here.

But someone is sending in kills, so I’d err on the side of lynching someone active for now

Scotty what do you mean by "strongarmed"? Is that a term for a kill that goes through even though there is a protection?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:24 pm Kylemii inhabits a neutral zone for me, because he asks a lot of neutral questions and usually ends up finding the answer himself. I'm trying to go over how an evil Kylemii could use his BTSC with Turnip Head to his advantage, and I'm coming up short, but even then Kylemii has never struck me as a terribly manipulative sort.

I would vote Kylemii in hopes of getting lucky (which is what I've basically been doing this whole time), but there's been anything that makes me want to vote for him.

So did Kyle and Turnip Head confirm they had btsc? Or we know for sure some other way?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:25 am Sorry I passed out last night after 15 straight hours at work. Killing me softlyyyyy

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:25 am I know golden said he trusted daisy as his core town, I don’t think he said why outside of his own beliefs. Did you feel the same Scotty?

I figured he had some game reason that he didn’t want to disclose, and that it was more than a belief. Otherwise I’d probably be on her tail still

That is correct.

Ok, off to work I go.

Oh nooooo Mac! I hate that you are gone and I second Daisy's request that someone bring you back. I need to read through Mac's posts to see if I can determine why he was picked for the kill unless the rest of you guys know the reason already.

I will be at work today in a little while until this afternoon and then I have therapy so I'll be back in the thread later this afternoon.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:43 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:28 pm @Turnip Head are you doing alright

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:29 pm like..... irl, are you okay

The FLorida humidity is giving me a daily case of swamp ass so body temp wise i've definitely felt better

other than that i'm fine

Omg we had the worst storms here today - our street is flooded, our back patio is flooded and the pool is at the overflow point. Florida weather, love it in winter, not so much this time of year.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:13 pmHello Julio

Hello Mac, nice to see you.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:52 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:37 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:25 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:20 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:16 pm Welcome to the game @juliets, it's a shame you won't be seeing much more of me, I'm scheduled to die in like an hour

What? What do you mean TH?

It's my destiny to die/win tonight and no amount of retrocausality can change that.

Oh ok. I saw something about that when I was reading but I didn't understand it really.

I tried to have fun with it tbh but it sort of fell out of my hands cuz the thread pushed back against it hard, and now I'm just that lingering presence that we can't wait to finally deal with

That makes me more sad than a game should make me. I guess you could be bad and stringing me along but what purpose would that serve if you're about to die. Didn't I read that something could happen where you exit the game and have your win con satisfied?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:25 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:20 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:16 pm Welcome to the game @juliets, it's a shame you won't be seeing much more of me, I'm scheduled to die in like an hour

What? What do you mean TH?

It's my destiny to die/win tonight and no amount of retrocausality can change that.

Oh ok. I saw something about that when I was reading but I didn't understand it really.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:16 pm Welcome to the game @juliets, it's a shame you won't be seeing much more of me, I'm scheduled to die in like an hour

What? What do you mean TH?

Ok I got to the end of Golden's posts and see that he ended up thinking Epi was town but it looks like he suspected Colin so I'll read Colin.

Ok, I haven't finished reading through Golden's ISO yet but there are a few things I can say at this point.

First, I have now been briefed and had the benefit of reading most of Golden's thread and some of the posts he was commenting on and I can say I absolutely see Scotty, Daisy, and Mac as civ.

Second, I am not sure I concur with his list of baddies, I will have to put in more effort (i.e., read sig, Luna, Epi, lapluie) before I can give you an opinion there.

Third, I have no intention of pursuing the argument with Epi and to an extent Mac about voting with people I see as civ in a block. Golden was passionate about that but I think it started because as he said he really didn't have time to coordinate/convince the other three of his opinion. Me personally, I have no interest in the argument and hope we can resolve any bad feelings that may have arisen.

Fourth, I am no Golden. I am not the savvy player he is and tend to be less confident in my reads. He appears to have been quite a force in the thread, very dynamic and charismatic. I have a much quieter affect so I hope we don't lose too much momentum as a town because of my personality difference.

Ok that's all I have to say for now, back to reading.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:58 pm

epignosis, scotty, and mac are oops all doctors

scotty and spacedaisy and I think someone else are all town if you have a town role card, if you don't then who knows i guess

turnip head and i are mixmasons and he's claimed an indie with a predict 2 elections win condition, it's like this whole thing. we'll hopefully resolve it tonight.

I am the christmas time ghost warlock played by, Michael Caine.

colin says he's a guy who gets an extra vote when he predicts night votes

sig and luna wree hopefully mafia but maybe they weren't and we're fucked but hopefully they were and we're doing fine but who knows

those are the main points.

rip my pool therapy it's raining

What is a mixmason? And Kyle have you said what the Christmas time ghost does?

Also Kyle I don't quite get the meaning of this sentence:
"scotty and spacedaisy and I think someone else are all town if you have a town role card, if you don't then who knows I guess"

You think someone else are all town? who? Or is there a word or two missing from the sentence?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:43 pm @juliets hi

hi Kyle!

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:14 pm Turnip Head has claimed to be an indie with a wincon of correctly predicting 2 night elections, at which point he will leave the game victorious while the rest of us compete to join him.

I’m skeptical because my role as a town election predictor just gives me an extra vote, so I feel my role reward is mechanically incompatible with his. Most other people have reacted ranging from “TH’s story is so weird that he can’t be lying” to “Let’s just give him what he wants and test his veracity that way” to “IDGAF.” I’ll leave you to come to your own conclusion

OOOOOh very interesting. Two people claiming the same role in addition to what I've picked up reading Golden that two people are also claiming doctor. I'll have to think about this though my gut reaction is let's test his veracity. What are the downsides of this alternative? If it's not true I think I would assume he was bad and vote for him for lynch. Did he guess Scotty for tonight 'cause looks like he's gonna win unless theres a last minute changeover. I'll ponder this situation while in the pool.

linki: oh so sorry to hear that lap but have a good vacation

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:59 pm For the record I’m not chuffed about giving into Turbup’s demands but I don’t think there’s anything anybody’s gonna do about it now.

So what is he demanding?

Also, I am halfway through Golden's posts - 12 pages of them - and am going to take a break and do my pool therapy. Does anyone else have any tidbits to pass along to me that I should pay careful attention to while reading? I'm convinced by just the mission to read 12 pages that I probably won't get through all 61, at least not today.

So the poll doesn't seem to have a time. Looks like Golden already voted so I guess I don't need to worry about it but when does night end? Anybody know?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:22 pm This sets us back if he didn’t get to communicate why he trusted me. Meh.

I'll ask the question and see if I get an answer.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:16 pm Was Golden able to leave you his knowledge before he replaced out @juliets ?

No, though I have some very limited info from speed which frankly doesn't help me much (not your fault speed).

Thanks Colin for the info. I will read as much of the thread as possible. I just dipped my toes in a couple of places and there seems like there are a lot of things going on that I need background on. I'll keep up with actions going forward as well and try to contribute. I normally ask a lot of questions to probe people but this game I'm likely to ask even more questions since I'm not fully informed. Please forgive me in advance for things I ask which have already been covered.

Hi everyone! I started out reading this game, then got confused and started playing another game so I dropped reading this one. Big mistake. I'll read the rules and the host posts and then what would you suggest? I don't know that I can back read everything - are there things I should know that any of you can share with me? Certain people whose iso's you would suggest I read? Any advice or info would be helpful.