The Syndicate

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:54 am Just ask Poison how good I am albeit slightly unorthodox

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:12 pm There's this thing I like to do as scum, you enter the game knowing that sooner or later you are going to draw suspicion. It's inevitable and unavoidable. What you do is make yourself suspicious on purpose but in a way that you can defend, you choose the battlefield, you set the terms. This way you are less likely to face off against real suspicion, suspicion you are unprepared for, or when you do come up against it you've already set a precedent for clearing yourself


Once I said that "I am a cop". instead of saying "I am the cop" knowing that was what townoes would latch onto, covered myself against the immediate sus on me and was so convincing that I was killed by a rival scum faction that night

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:49 am Mechanically cleared people

SPF -

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We have deduced she is the song Magpie from the album King Of The Limbs. Herm was tracked to Master Radishes' house the night he checked for the album King Of The Limbs. Herm only checks songs. That implies that Master Radishes was the civilian notified of Herm's check, thus, there are not any non-civillians on the album King Of The Limbs.

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 am

Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:18 pm My album is also The King of Limbs, so I assume me and Rasishes are the only ones with that album, which probably explains why I was seen visiting.

So once I'm miseliminated, just continue the game with that info in mind.

Oh lol, sorry about that typo Radish.

Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:05 pm The King of Limbs (0 Scum, Radishes)

Note : Read herm's flip, by "0 scum" he means that he didn't get a rolepeek of any card while checking the album, which means there are no NON-CIVILLIANS on that album. Herm was using "scum" here to refer to both 3p and mafia.

tedxtr -

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I claimed a song from the album Kid A. Herm told us that there aren't any non-civillians on Kid A, and my claim was proven to be true by Poison.

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 pm To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:10 am Hard claim album Kid A, song Optimist or whatever it is, Optimistic

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:27 am Ted didn't lie about his song.

Oddmerta -

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Herm checked Amnesiac and Kid A. Nobody from the album Amnesiac or Kid A claimed to have received a notification from Herm, but Oddmerta heavily hinted to receiving one. As a 3p, he'd have to have a role peek on Herm and also gambit on whether the person from Kid A or Amnesiac were dead or alive. Thus, Occam's razor suggests that he's just the town from one of those albums that also happened to receive the notification.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:20 am

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 pm To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.

Ok so Herm is town, I know it. We need to get rid of Dyachei for faking tracker results

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am Best to start thinking of a world where Herm is town amd dyachei is scum

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:31 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:30 am

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:28 am Yes, but it is randomized. So only one townie on an album gets notified of the search.

Lol.

I commend you trying, but like no. =p

I think he is telling the truth

Dizzy -

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Poison chose to inspect the song High and Dry from the album "The Bends". Poison claimed that this specific song is civilian aligned and Dizzy's claims fits the description of that song to a T. Here's how :

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:06 am I used The role card and got High and Dry. Civ. Conditional tracker and can make a post upon their death. I'll elaborate on it later.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p

Also, we know Dizzy is a conditional tracker, but the detail there being the "make one post after you die" seals the deal.

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Clarifications :

I have previously mentioned that SPF should be outed 3p if Poison doesn't have the songs to pick from tonight. That is actually incorrect.

If our assumption of SPF being Magpie is correct, then she's always lock cleared. Truth is, if 3p had a visiting role, they probably DID actually visit Poison, but it's not SPF.

Again, whether Poison has the songs tomorrow or not doesn't matter for SPF's alignment as long as our assumption of her song is correct. 3P could be another person and SPF got caught in the crossfire, but as long as she's Magpie, it doesn't matter because of the point I've made about her.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:31 pm Oddmerta started pushing me as the 3p before the last mafia was dead too.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:22 pm Like I’m not even sure I believe it, but it’s viable imo

Idk why I’m bothering this isn’t my problem anymore in t-minus 9 hours kek

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:08 pm Idk that effort level for this specific game is a tell or not for Mac tbh, the other 3p game of his was a dramatically different game state where he had private communication with the scum team and they just kind of were able to coast and win against one active town player.

On the other hand I’d feel pretty bad if mac is town and dies so

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:03 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:59 pm I'd vote Mac solely because of not knowing his role and to be sure he is not the 3p that wins today.

I mean, look, if we try to think about it, with all the other roles and abilities we had confirmations more or less what they have been doing or what actions were what.. You know what I mean... Like everything fall in place, people could counter confirm other's actions. But mac, he can't be a VT right? He must have an action which we would have not received an explanation for?

Am I making sense at all or am I paranoid?

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:58 pm The thing is, we don't know exactly how much time or misyeets we can afford. If, like Mac said earlier somewhere that the 3P can't claim but have to do in with the town, I think that would be a wrong assumption, cause if 3P could win with town, the game would have been over by now.

If 3P has to survive this game till the end, they must have some sort of attacking power. Do we see that?

Although I'm having gut feelings, it's someone between Mac - nanook.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:24 am Nanook was trying to clear himself from the PoE by suggesting he targeted Poison the night SPF also did

But he didn’t even target her, he was just alluding to it

And still, that doesn’t even work because it was completely irrelevant lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:42 am Double headdesk

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:20 am

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:59 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:49 am

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:24 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:23 amYo

Hi Oddmerta! Have you got any thoughts on the game state this morning? Who are you thinking is the 3P?

Game looks a bit messy but I'm sure we'll get through it

3p should be Mac or Juliets, Nanook was seen N1 so he has low equity

He was seen N1 by Hally but how does that prove he's not the 3P?

He had to claim and all that stuff way back then, it doesn't prove him but it's something

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:48 am I’m paranoid of pockets, ergo juliets rn

Nutella wanted to do the same thing

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:49 am

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:24 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:23 amYo

Hi Oddmerta! Have you got any thoughts on the game state this morning? Who are you thinking is the 3P?

Game looks a bit messy but I'm sure we'll get through it

3p should be Mac or Juliets, Nanook was seen N1 so he has low equity

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:23 amYo

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:17 am

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:00 am Good Morning Mr. Magpie.

Ted I look forward to your thoughts this morning. Also, @Oddmerta we really need your participation. The more thoughts the better given our game state.

I’m sorry but I don’t have anything new :P

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:09 am

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:06 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME , I'm not understanding what I'm supposed to see. I believe later it was decided that we didn't want anyone to reveal their song so she did the role card thing. What am I missing?

Why are we clearing SPF Jules

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:44 am That actually kinda sucks I was hoping he might be able to confirm something for me lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:13 am Does dizzy still have tracks left?

Guess it doesn’t matter a ton given no NKs

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:58 pm Votes cast by and against my target are exactly 1.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:46 pm I’d like if we could get opinions on who my ability should be used on before I pass out

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:50 pm Do we have suggestions on who we eliminate tomorrow?

Assuming game doesn't end tonight.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:22 pm I mean it’s possible that poison is 3p and her wincon doesn’t require her to be last one standing, so the clears don’t clear her necessarily

But she’s certainly lower on my list than mac/Jules

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:09 pm I mean dude

For ted to be rogue poison and herm both need to have fucked up majorly

For SPF to be rogue poison has to be lying about her conditions for her role to work

For dizzy to be rogue poison has to be lying

So

Unless sloonei made an incredibly bastard game, which I doubt, those three are just locked town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 pm I am pretty frustrated that I am even in the POE tbh. I don't even think I should be and I think the only reason that I am is because people haven't bothered to ISO me.

Everyone that isn’t mech cleared or close to is in it dude

I mean I don’t think it’s you over Jules, but I definitely think you’re more likely than spf/ted/dizzy

We're gonna lose to someone who is being mech cleared I think. Unless it's just you.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:56 pm I played a star trek themed mafia game and I started watching the series

very cool

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 pm Yeh it’s weird

But like

If it gets to f4 it just self resolves yeah? Actually f5 does...assuming continued no deaths, odd and poison resolve at f4/5 since we have three hard clears, so it’s probably fine

There’s a chance we lose sooner if 3p has a non-last man standing wincon, which seems entirely possible given that they don’t inherit the factional kill. So order probably does matter, but I also can’t imagine killing poison or odd before mac/Jules so

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:00 pm I think you guys are reaching into tinfoil territory way too early

Additional evidence :

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:46 am I'm using flowery language to get my point across

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:49 am I appreciate the use of flowery language. It makes me feel at home lol.

This is referring to Herm's role or perhaps even the notification.

It's not weak, even if he cop checked him, he'd still have to be taking a gamble, again.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:20 am Mac you also pushed LC and didn’t push anywhere else that I recall so

Big meh

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:38 pm Idk who to vote tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:01 pm I'm surprised to see nobody has tinfoiled him.