Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[staypositivefriend]

I'm skeptical that town has this much power. IME when this happens it's because a power role we thought was town is actually mafia. (Cite: Philosopher's Mafia) I currently have Wilgy as the most likely to fill that role, since everyone else seems clear for multiple reasons.

i feel the same way rn. regardless of anything, i don't think all of these claims are real

setup speculation/mechs aren't my strong suit by any means, so i'm going to avoid the temptation of basing my reads on mechs/claims and instead continue to base them on partner equity

[Alison]

Yeah Radishes back in POE. I liked his tone day 1 and in any other game I'd have him as a strong townread but the bar for towniness has been raised higher than that this game. I think with things as is, you need to have either strong spew, multiple pelts and/or a mech clear to get out of the POE, because we can genuinely afford to flip everyone who isn't as townie as that.

[Timsup2nothin]

Mac I dunno what you have on Radishes, but I'm mostly willing to kill him already.

[Alison]

I'm skeptical that town has this much power. IME when this happens it's because a power role we thought was town is actually mafia. (Cite: Philosopher's Mafia) I currently have Wilgy as the most likely to fill that role, since everyone else seems clear for multiple reasons.

do u think juliets can be town with almost the exact same role as me?

her role and yours are nothing alike. in fact her role is like the exact opposite of yours. you protect someone from death in exchange for making their role a little bit delayed. she makes sure people's roles go through, but can't save them from a bullet.

[Herm]

What is your claim Herm? Do not include the song title, only the claim.

Sure.

[tutuu]

I'm skeptical that town has this much power. IME when this happens it's because a power role we thought was town is actually mafia. (Cite: Philosopher's Mafia) I currently have Wilgy as the most likely to fill that role, since everyone else seems clear for multiple reasons.

do u think juliets can be town with almost the exact same role as me?

her role and yours are nothing alike. in fact her role is like the exact opposite of yours. you protect someone from death in exchange for making their role a little bit delayed. she makes sure people's roles go through, but can't save them from a bullet.

i protect not only from death but from negative actions (roleblocks, redirects, etc)

[staypositivefriend]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

Mass claiming on D3 isn't necessary, right?

we have a lot of confusion surrounding night actions and it's best if we clear that confusion up as neatly as possible

Alright, I'm fine with claiming then.

What is your claim Herm? Do not include the song title, only the claim.

Sure.

maybe im just nitpicking but these posts concern me that herm is buying time to make up a fakeclaim lmao

[Alison]

I'm skeptical that town has this much power. IME when this happens it's because a power role we thought was town is actually mafia. (Cite: Philosopher's Mafia) I currently have Wilgy as the most likely to fill that role, since everyone else seems clear for multiple reasons.

do u think juliets can be town with almost the exact same role as me?

her role and yours are nothing alike. in fact her role is like the exact opposite of yours. you protect someone from death in exchange for making their role a little bit delayed. she makes sure people's roles go through, but can't save them from a bullet.

i protect not only from death but from negative actions (roleblocks, redirects, etc)

yeah, but I don't think yours is similar to juliet's in any other way so I'm not really suspicious in that regard.

[Alison]

maybe im just nitpicking but these posts concern me that herm is buying time to make up a fakeclaim lmao

why not just afk in the thread while they ask their buddy for help if that's the case

[Timsup2nothin]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

Mass claiming on D3 isn't necessary, right?

we have a lot of confusion surrounding night actions and it's best if we clear that confusion up as neatly as possible

Alright, I'm fine with claiming then.

What is your claim Herm? Do not include the song title, only the claim.

Sure.

maybe im just nitpicking but these posts concern me that herm is buying time to make up a fakeclaim lmao

Same.

[staypositivefriend]

maybe im just nitpicking but these posts concern me that herm is buying time to make up a fakeclaim lmao

why not just afk in the thread while they ask their buddy for help if that's the case

youre not wrong, the posts are just odd

[Timsup2nothin]

maybe im just nitpicking but these posts concern me that herm is buying time to make up a fakeclaim lmao

why not just afk in the thread while they ask their buddy for help if that's the case

Panicked.

[tutuu]

i dont think they have a buddy to help with the claims as proven by nutella sprityo and jpic

[staypositivefriend]

i feel pretty comfortable townlocking tutuu now fwiw

[MacDougall]

1. Alison - Nutella(Mafia), Sprityo (Mafia), Nook - Good
2. TonyStarkPrime - Nutella (Mafia), Sprityo (Mafia), JPIC (Mafia) - Very good
3. DrWilgy - Tutuu, MacDougall, Sprityo (Mafia) - Very bad
4. dyachei - Nanook, Sprityo (Mafia), Nanook - Reasonable
5. Dyslexicon - tedxtr, Sprityo (mafia), Tim - Questionable
6. juliets - Nutella (Mafia), JPIC (Mafia), Sprityo (Mafia) - Very good
8. Herm - Nanook, JPIC (Mafia), Sprityo (Mafia) - Good
10. Long Con - Tim, JPIC (Mafia), Sprityo (Mafia) - Good
11. MacDougall - Nutella (Mafia), Nanook, Sprityo (Mafia) - Good
12. Master Radishes - DrWilgy, Staypositivefriend, Sprityo (Mafia) - Questionable
13. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Tim, Sprityo (Mafia), Tim - Reasonable
14. Oddmerta - Tim, JPIC (Mafia), Tim - Hmmm
15. Poison Chan - Nutella (Mafia), Oddmerta, Sprityo (Mafia) - Good
16. Samusamu - Nutella (Mafia), JPIC (Mafia), Tim - Good
18. staypositivefriend - Nutella (Mafia), JPIC (Mafia), Sprityo (Mafia) - Very good
19. tedxtr - Tim, Sprityo (Mafia) - Ok
20. Timsup2nothin - tedxtr, Oddmerta, Sprityo (Mafia) - Wanna talk about this
21. tutuu - Nutella (Mafia), Sprityo (Mafia), SPF - Fine

The odd ones out here are Wilgy, Dyslexicon, Radishes, Oddmerta, Tedxtr and Tim.

This analysis makes Herm and Samu look better. It clears Tim for me.

I think it's fair to say the worst votes here are Wilgy's vote on me and Radishes vote on SPF.

I have concerns about Oddmerta. Primarily that Oddmerta pushes so fucking hard onto JPIC and ignored Sprityo which I think is exactly what mafia wanted (JPIC to go before Sprityo) because JPIC had the shittier role. I actually thought he was the cop before Alison's claim so now that she's claimed cop it makes me very sus on him.

[Timsup2nothin]

i dont think they have a buddy to help with the claims as proven by nutella sprityo and jpic

No buddy to help may also mean 3P, which would be glorious.

[Alison]

I'm not buying the panic read on Herm lol. Just let them claim.

The more I think about it the more I think samu and ted have high scum equity.

[tutuu]

if mafia didnt have the 1-shot strongman shot then the game state would be 3 mafia dead and no other deaths. gosh. our egos would have been elevated up the sky. if only

[MacDougall]

Actually you maybe right. It might just be Samu and Oddmerta actually. They are the only two people that voted for JPIC and not Sprityo.

[Alison]

I have concerns about Oddmerta. Primarily that Oddmerta pushes so fucking hard onto JPIC and ignored Sprityo which I think is exactly what mafia wanted (JPIC to go before Sprityo) because JPIC had the shittier role. I actually thought he was the cop before Alison's claim so now that she's claimed cop it makes me very sus on him.

Oddmerta was savagely attacked by both nutella and sprityo in ways that made me think they wanted to kill him. I asked him which of nutella/sprityo/JPIC/spf was mafia, and he said "all of them". That was during D1, before Hally broke the wolf team.

Oddmerta is not mafia.

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm not buying the panic read on Herm lol. Just let them claim.

The more I think about it the more I think samu and ted have high scum equity.

I will say that I voted Ted D1 and in all (of my admittedly limited number) of my games on MU I have never missed having my EoD1 vote on a wolf.

[MacDougall]

I have concerns about Oddmerta. Primarily that Oddmerta pushes so fucking hard onto JPIC and ignored Sprityo which I think is exactly what mafia wanted (JPIC to go before Sprityo) because JPIC had the shittier role. I actually thought he was the cop before Alison's claim so now that she's claimed cop it makes me very sus on him.

Oddmerta was savagely attacked by both nutella and sprityo in ways that made me think they wanted to kill him. I asked him which of nutella/sprityo/JPIC/spf was mafia, and he said "all of them". That was during D1, before Hally broke the wolf team.

Oddmerta is not mafia.

Gotta be someone trying to establish distance cred surely.

[tutuu]

unresolved mystery: night 2 chat was unlocked, while JPIC was alive, whose role prevented night chat from being open as long as he lives

[staypositivefriend]

I'm not buying the panic read on Herm lol. Just let them claim.

The more I think about it the more I think samu and ted have high scum equity.

ted in particular had some really awkward/hedgy lines about JPIC. i'll take a look at samu's interactions since i've been sidelining him

[Herm]

To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.

[Timsup2nothin]

unresolved mystery: night 2 chat was unlocked, while JPIC was alive, whose role prevented night chat from being open as long as he lives

I'm thinking that JPIC got roleblocked.

[tutuu]

herm do u have a list of all albums that are in the game?

[tutuu]

unresolved mystery: night 2 chat was unlocked, while JPIC was alive, whose role prevented night chat from being open as long as he lives

I'm thinking that JPIC got roleblocked.

but the night chat lock is passive and not an active action? and drwilgy tracked him to me?

[tutuu]

maybe mafia or the 3p is a redirector and they redirected juliets to me, hoping that juliets is the other evil role (3p/mafia) and they mess me up, but juliets ended up protecting me from jpic's post cap

[staypositivefriend]

To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.

if any town has a song from amnesiac/kid A and they weren't notified of herm's search, they should probably claim that

[Timsup2nothin]

unresolved mystery: night 2 chat was unlocked, while JPIC was alive, whose role prevented night chat from being open as long as he lives

I'm thinking that JPIC got roleblocked.

but the night chat lock is passive and not an active action? and drwilgy tracked him to me?

I already called Wolgy's claim a crock, so that doesn't matter to me. The question of whether him getting roleblocked affects passive actions...yeah, probably not.

[Long Con]

I am not in either of those two albums.

[tutuu]

wait albums not songs nvm i misread

[Alison]

I have concerns about Oddmerta. Primarily that Oddmerta pushes so fucking hard onto JPIC and ignored Sprityo which I think is exactly what mafia wanted (JPIC to go before Sprityo) because JPIC had the shittier role. I actually thought he was the cop before Alison's claim so now that she's claimed cop it makes me very sus on him.

Oddmerta was savagely attacked by both nutella and sprityo in ways that made me think they wanted to kill him. I asked him which of nutella/sprityo/JPIC/spf was mafia, and he said "all of them". That was during D1, before Hally broke the wolf team.

Oddmerta is not mafia.

Gotta be someone trying to establish distance cred surely.

Maybe? I don't think the way they attacked Odd looked like distancing. But like, going after JPIC before sprit is not as scummy as you make it sound. That cop claim was legit nuts

[Timsup2nothin]

To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.

Herm since I already revealed my song it would have been REALLY cool if you had taken that into account in your album choices.

[Herm]

maybe im just nitpicking but these posts concern me that herm is buying time to make up a fakeclaim lmao

why not just afk in the thread while they ask their buddy for help if that's the case

youre not wrong, the posts are just odd

I just really don't like claiming early in games lol.

[Alison]

song cop is not a claim i trust. wtf is that

[staypositivefriend]

the only player we can confirm had an album from one of herm's checks (amnesiac/kid A) is hally, and they died before we could find out if they were notified

this has me genuinely curious how the albums are distributed

[Alison]

not saying it's 100% scum but it's definitely not a helpful role or one that makes me want to shield jt

[Timsup2nothin]

I have concerns about Oddmerta. Primarily that Oddmerta pushes so fucking hard onto JPIC and ignored Sprityo which I think is exactly what mafia wanted (JPIC to go before Sprityo) because JPIC had the shittier role. I actually thought he was the cop before Alison's claim so now that she's claimed cop it makes me very sus on him.

Oddmerta was savagely attacked by both nutella and sprityo in ways that made me think they wanted to kill him. I asked him which of nutella/sprityo/JPIC/spf was mafia, and he said "all of them". That was during D1, before Hally broke the wolf team.

Oddmerta is not mafia.

Gotta be someone trying to establish distance cred surely.

Maybe? I don't think the way they attacked Odd looked like distancing. But like, going after JPIC before sprit is not as scummy as you make it sound. That cop claim was legit nuts

Odd wasn't going over day one so their attacks could be as savage as they wanted. And Odd naming a bunch of wolves in his seemingly totally arbitrary 'scum team' doesn't really put anyone in danger when he is specifically playing to have no credibility.

[staypositivefriend]

not saying it's 100% scum but it's definitely not a helpful role or one that makes me want to shield jt

it feels simultaneously overpowered and underpowered

[tutuu]

is herm the mafia role cop poison was talking about

[MacDougall]

I have concerns about Oddmerta. Primarily that Oddmerta pushes so fucking hard onto JPIC and ignored Sprityo which I think is exactly what mafia wanted (JPIC to go before Sprityo) because JPIC had the shittier role. I actually thought he was the cop before Alison's claim so now that she's claimed cop it makes me very sus on him.

Oddmerta was savagely attacked by both nutella and sprityo in ways that made me think they wanted to kill him. I asked him which of nutella/sprityo/JPIC/spf was mafia, and he said "all of them". That was during D1, before Hally broke the wolf team.

Oddmerta is not mafia.

Gotta be someone trying to establish distance cred surely.

Maybe? I don't think the way they attacked Odd looked like distancing. But like, going after JPIC before sprit is not as scummy as you make it sound. That cop claim was legit nuts

But the way Oddmerta did it was very pushy. He was like "Mac you're making a big mistake" etc.

[Timsup2nothin]

not saying it's 100% scum but it's definitely not a helpful role or one that makes me want to shield jt

I do. I shield that totally so long as N3 Herm agrees to check OK Computer.

[MacDougall]

Hmmm now I am wondering whether we should album claim? Lol.

[Herm]

To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.

Herm since I already revealed my song it would have been REALLY cool if you had taken that into account in your album choices.

I was planning looking for albums that scum hadn't already flipped on. Also tried to look for albums Poison hadn't looked on.

I must have missed your song, but couldn't scum be on the same album?

[Alison]

herm's role sounds exactly like what a rogue role would be, reskinned a little to make it more townie.

The rogue searches through albums, finds songs, and kills those songs. It makes sense to me.

Also Hern claimed to have searched through Hally's album and then the day after Hally gets killed through a doctor so...

[MacDougall]

If we album claim we can let Herm check into albums to narrow the pool down or something I dunno braining is hard now.

[tutuu]

herm's role encourages song claiming

"claim your song name so that we can have herm peek you"

a la nutella was like "claim your song name so i can protect you"

idk

like, even if herm is town, and he manages to receive a confirmation that Song X belongs to scum - what now? what useful info is this?

[Timsup2nothin]

To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.

Herm since I already revealed my song it would have been REALLY cool if you had taken that into account in your album choices.

I was planning looking for albums that scum hadn't already flipped on. Also tried to look for albums Poison hadn't looked on.

I must have missed your song, but couldn't scum be on the same album?

Well, yeah, as it turns out JPIC was my album mate. I'll chance it.