The Syndicate

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:I'm caught up now.

LongCon, SD had the most votes when the poll closed. Ignoring any vote manipulations, she should have been the one lynched. I don't know why I was the one in the lynch post. Flavor text, possibly?

I haven't figured out my vote yet.

Were you by the flash museum?

timmer wrote:@Aces, if you are an Old Rogue please don't self-vote. If you are bad, or even an indy, well, do what ya gotta do. But if you are an Old Rogue, I'd request that you move your vote, please! Don't throw in the towel!

timmer wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:I voted for myself, because fuck it.

Are you bad?

FZ. wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:TH, I said fair enough, I still think you are suspicious meaning, "Iacknowledge that you are giving a defense, i, just not buying it." I can see how it looks like, you're right but I just going to suspect you anyway, which is not what I meant. I do think his actions around this magenta stuff is shady, but I am willing to vote somewhere else today and put him on a back burner seeing as how I'm apparently the only person suspecting him. In particular, I am perfectly fine with *voting Aces* for his vote on Day 1, his appearance and just dropping a vote onto the bandwagon here today.

LC to answer your question, the original misinterpretation of some win cons, which in all fairness you corrected later and I realize that, though I don't recall if it was after someone else commented or not. It is minor thing honestly, but it just adds to my greater concern of how you were handling lynches regarding magenta. Anytime someone seems to be vocally encouraging an idea that the lynch will most certainly be pardoned it makes me feel like civs are encouraged to not worry so much about where their votes are placed. It felt very off to me, and a good way to shirk one's own responsibility for their vote. I don't like it. Why would you as a seasoned mafia player ever think it is good strategy to rely on an Indy to do something for your team? It doesn't add up for me.

Regardless, I still am keeping you on my watch list, but I am more interested in Aces at the moment.

So to be clear, SD is voting for me, in her words, for:

a. Voting for S~V~S day 1.
b. Showing up and posting.
c. Joining a bandwagon of two people. A bandwagon on someone I voted for on day 1. A vote she's suspicious of for some reason.

This has to be the most flimsy excuse for a vote I have ever seen. It should be clear that SD is just looking for an easy target. Where is the sketchy vote brigade when you need them?

While I might agree that her reasoning needs to be looked at, you're still choosing to leave your vote on SVS, and are not planning on moving it to her?

Spacedaisy wrote:TH, I said fair enough, I still think you are suspicious meaning, "Iacknowledge that you are giving a defense, i, just not buying it." I can see how it looks like, you're right but I just going to suspect you anyway, which is not what I meant. I do think his actions around this magenta stuff is shady, but I am willing to vote somewhere else today and put him on a back burner seeing as how I'm apparently the only person suspecting him. In particular, I am perfectly fine with *voting Aces* for his vote on Day 1, his appearance and just dropping a vote onto the bandwagon here today.

LC to answer your question, the original misinterpretation of some win cons, which in all fairness you corrected later and I realize that, though I don't recall if it was after someone else commented or not. It is minor thing honestly, but it just adds to my greater concern of how you were handling lynches regarding magenta. Anytime someone seems to be vocally encouraging an idea that the lynch will most certainly be pardoned it makes me feel like civs are encouraged to not worry so much about where their votes are placed. It felt very off to me, and a good way to shirk one's own responsibility for their vote. I don't like it. Why would you as a seasoned mafia player ever think it is good strategy to rely on an Indy to do something for your team? It doesn't add up for me.

Regardless, I still am keeping you on my watch list, but I am more interested in Aces at the moment.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Aces are you busy with RL stuff or are is it just a lack of interest? It seems like you know whats going on in the thread but some of the stuff you are saying is confusing like FZ pointed out.

FZ. wrote:So, Aces just said he voted for BF because he didn't have time to view the thread properly.

AceofSpaces wrote:
As I explained to LC, it was an ill-informed vote made because I didn't have the time to properly read and digest the thread.

He also said it when he made the vote:

AceofSpaces wrote:I voted for Blindfaeth I'm sorry I haven't been more active. It was a busy weekend for me. I'll be posting more as the week goes on.

Then, when Timmer asks him to explain his vote, he says he's still suspicious of SVS, but is more interested in Rabbit's certainty.

AceofSpaces wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

timmer wrote:@long con, could you expand on your bf vote? Rabbit feels a bit like he is being forced and also is calling you out. And you vote along with him. Can you expand on your thoughts regarding that?

This ^^

And FZ, for me weak suspicion TH is bad TH. I am fairly sure this is how he views me too (and he's right, tbh). He ha had my attention ever since he applied to be Epis sidekick. Still not sure about Epi, but not AS sure as I was yesterday.

Linki~ I would also like to know what happened to Aces suspicion of me.

I'm still watching you. But I am more interested in rabbit's certainty with bf.

If Aces didn't have enough time to read the thread properly:
a. How did he know Rabbit was certain about BF? He'd have to read the thread.
b. Again, why not vote for SVS who he was already and still suspicious of, and instead vote for someone else when you don't really know what's going on?

FZ. wrote:I think I agree with TH on most everything. I keep wondering about BF. He's definitely lowered his level of participation. I always believe that

I don't think baddies try to look obstructive like he did last day. If they are, it's usually unintentional. Now comes the part of the WIFOM, but that's how I see it.

LC, you still haven't told me what you think of BR. Anyone else is welcome to answer this question as well. She's practically non existent.

Aces, what did you really hope to achieve by your vote yesterday? It didn't look like anyone was going to follow that. Why just waste a lynch? It's making you look pretty bad in my eyes. Also, if you already wasted a vote, why not just vote for SVS if your so convinced she's bad?

DharmaHelper wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I agree with Roxy and TH about SVS . She almost always defends me if I come under attack . I don't think DH or Aces has been in a game that it has happen in but it has happen more then once where she defended me and I was bad and she was civvie.

I don't judge people based on past games, I judge them based on the game they are currently playing.

Also, you probably could have phrased that part in bold slightly better.

Says the human autocorrect.

It's not about the grammar. It's that one interpretation of that could be that Bass is admitting he's bad and S~V~S is defending him.

Bass *was* bad and SVS *was* defending him. Or do you mean Bass 2.0?

DharmaHelper wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I agree with Roxy and TH about SVS . She almost always defends me if I come under attack . I don't think DH or Aces has been in a game that it has happen in but it has happen more then once where she defended me and I was bad and she was civvie.

I don't judge people based on past games, I judge them based on the game they are currently playing.

Also, you probably could have phrased that part in bold slightly better.

Says the human autocorrect.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I agree with Roxy and TH about SVS . She almost always defends me if I come under attack . I don't think DH or Aces has been in a game that it has happen in but it has happen more then once where she defended me and I was bad and she was civvie.

Long Con wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:

Long Con wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:Votes are changeable, so I'm going to join the list of people who have already voted. I voted for S~V~S because I agree with everything Dharamahelper is saying. She has not done anything that has thrown off my day 1 suspicion of her.

Your pictures are working MM.

You showed up for your ninth post of the game very soon after I called you out for only having 8 posts. And this S~V~S vote is very sketchy. I'll also join the list of people who have already voted. *votes Aces*

I posted because it's when I have time to post. Don't give yourself so much credit. It literally had nothing to do with you.

And I suspected S~V~S day 1, and day 2. Day 1 I voted for her, but didn't have enough time or energy to convince everyone else. So, how is my S~V~S vote "sketchy"?

These are the reasons I was pinged by your post.

1. I thought that opening with "votes are changeable etc" was slightly suspicious language, it gave me the impression that you're leaving a back door open in case things go wrong with that vote. It's not too bad of a sentence really, it only gave me a slight ping, barely making it as a thing on this list.

2. Your vote based on "everything DH is saying" made me feel , to put it in Smilese. It probably makes me more suspicious because of your extreme low-lying play and lack of posts. To come in and say "I'll have what he's having" is just sketchy, surely you can see that.

3. Voting off a Day One suspicion gets more and more questionable as the game goes on. Granted, you're only 10 posts in to the game, but most of us have discussed a bunch of things, things have progressed some beyond Day One.

That's why I found your S~V~S vote sketchy. I also found your blindfaeth vote to be sketchy, as I've said. And to really seal the deal of a vote on you, was the idea that baddies without BTSC are reasonably likely to be laying low, a waiting game until they can get found by Blacksmith. Bass 1.0 was.

Long Con wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:Votes are changeable, so I'm going to join the list of people who have already voted. I voted for S~V~S because I agree with everything Dharamahelper is saying. She has not done anything that has thrown off my day 1 suspicion of her.

Your pictures are working MM.

You showed up for your ninth post of the game very soon after I called you out for only having 8 posts. And this S~V~S vote is very sketchy. I'll also join the list of people who have already voted. *votes Aces*

S~V~S wrote:

timmer wrote:@long con, could you expand on your bf vote? Rabbit feels a bit like he is being forced and also is calling you out. And you vote along with him. Can you expand on your thoughts regarding that?

This ^^

And FZ, for me weak suspicion TH is bad TH. I am fairly sure this is how he views me too (and he's right, tbh). He ha had my attention ever since he applied to be Epis sidekick. Still not sure about Epi, but not AS sure as I was yesterday.

Linki~ I would also like to know what happened to Aces suspicion of me.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Aces, I actually had the same thoughts SVS did, but Epignosis did not react that way. Instead, he pursued Elohcin.

S~V~S wrote:I am sure that at some point he will say it's a ploy to see who jumped on his vote/suspicion or something like that yadda yadda yadda.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Made wrote:Update: there hasn't been a game about Gems.... not sure where that leaves us...

This entire discussion has been the most useful useless discussion of all time.