The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:Also, do you know who the ONLY player is who hasn't had his fingerprints on a single civ lynch?

It's Dom.

LizKeen wrote:

Dom wrote:
In addition, nice deflection onto Russ and myself though.. Are you on his team?

I wasn't deflecting, I was stating a fact. Russ is not my teammate unless he's Ganon and I don't understand why a baddie would deflect back to their teammate anyway.

LizKeen wrote:I can see why I would draw suspicion but I'm still baffled as to MR's vote last night and he never explained it after I questioned it other than to say 'I think she's bad, gotta go'. And I think I explained it when I joined the site but maybe not to you guys, I have played mafia before but it's been about 5 years. So it's sort of like riding a bike. Into a wall. I'm curious why Dom and Russ were getting votes yesterday and now it seems to be directed at me. I'm not convinced Russ is bad but did everyone change they're opinion on both if them since yesterday? I am not in a mafia team. If I had help I wouldn't be so all over the place. As for the riddle, considering how easy it seemed for others to figure out what I would have considered much more difficult riddles, I assumed the last one would probably a no-brainer for some. I was not one of them obviously. Yes, I was opposed to helping Hyrule from getting more rupees but again thought enough people would solve it we would get plenty for Ganon.

Snow Dog wrote:It's here...

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Wow I really don't like how many people are voting sabie. Also maybe we should look at the people who were night killed . Who would want to kill S~V~S and MP this early? Maybe someone that they can read ? Idk just spit balling.

Llama might.....possibly?

Thats what I was thinking. I could be wrong but its the only reason I could see killing off those two players this early.

nijuukyugou wrote:Thoughts, as promised:

1) I finally went back and looked at Dom, and is certainly IS quieter than usual. He usually guns after somebody (or a few somebodies) pretty hardcore throughout the game, but he has done none of that this game. Not sure if he's burned out or changing up his playstyle, but it's not something I've seen before.
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Made wrote:I could of gotten the chords but wouldn't of gotten the MAJ part.
Guess that'll teach me to finally stop solely playing piano by ear. Noone has died yet in relation to the triforce of courage so Iunno

I currently want to vote MM, Russ, or MR.

MM and Russ because they both went for the piece of courage and if they're mafia with the key they have significant amounts of bank. Then....

MM has seemed really insincere in his post related to the triforce of courage

MR seemed to pop in out of nowhere to grab the power pinged me hella hard.

As I said earlier I can't read Dom at all. Admittedly, I have yet to read the page before the lynch, but if I were to find him suspicious, it would be because of his one word answers and lack of being rational. While I've come to expect that from civvie Epig, for example, I'm off put. Can a few people please further discribe his usual play style. I don't think I've ever played with civvie Dom.

I will vote after I see timing and landing of other's votes.

Snow Dog wrote:Could minor be a chord or a scale?

Snow Dog wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If you selected "Lizard" on Night 0, you will have an advantage in this challenge, yes.

Well, that is Dom.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I think I should get it for being the only female brave enough to go for it

Mister Rearranger wrote:Nobody is offering an explanation as to why Russ would do what everyone thinks he's done?

Like, it seriously doesn't make sense to me from a gameplay angle. He's bad, none of his team is taking heat (nobody else was taking heat at all, really, save his and my thoughts about Splints), but he goes out of his way to solely defend the civvie who is bound to be lynched anyways? I've known Russ to be a shifty baddie before, but not a foolish one.

Dom wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Having slept on it, I increasingly think Russ is sincere. He has worked hard to build detailed cases, and while I don't always agree with them, I get the sense that he wants to win it for the civvies.

I don't trust Dom's new taciturn demeanor one bit, though, so I am voting for him.

you have yet to articulate how a quieter dom indicates a baddier dom

You have yet to articulate.

Jk, I've missed you.

Made wrote:I don't like this, at all.

Simple yes or no question, does any one know why the possibly survived?

thellama73 wrote:

Dom wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Having slept on it, I increasingly think Russ is sincere. He has worked hard to build detailed cases, and while I don't always agree with them, I get the sense that he wants to win it for the civvies.

I don't trust Dom's new taciturn demeanor one bit, though, so I am voting for him.

you have yet to articulate how a quieter dom indicates a baddier dom

Frankly, I think you're frustrated about Dr. Who (I didn't want to bring up past games, but I was forced into it) and experimenting with this new sullen playstyle. But I don't think you'd be so bold without teammates to back you up. There's a smugness behind your posts that indicates a baddie team who is clearly winning.

thellama73 wrote:Having slept on it, I increasingly think Russ is sincere. He has worked hard to build detailed cases, and while I don't always agree with them, I get the sense that he wants to win it for the civvies.

I don't trust Dom's new taciturn demeanor one bit, though, so I am voting for him.

Mister Rearranger wrote:My instinct is to trust Made's alignment this game, even if I don't agree with everything he's saying lol

Epignosis wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This isn't a puzzle. It's a fight to the death.

Is there any way you can answer if this will this be a time-sensitive fight to the death? I'm a bit concerned about agreeing to this, and then not being there for whenever what it is will take place.

I'm wondering how long the fight will take too. I know you probably won't answer all these things I'm curious, but I shouldn't probably agree to it. I have work all day tomorrow and then have to go to the hospital again right after.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:This isn't a puzzle. It's a fight to the death.

I hope being on PST doesn't ruin my chances.

Don't worry about timing- that won't be a factor.

fingersplints wrote:Dom what do you think about what I said about voting him the next day? Do you think that is a reasonable assumption?

Russtifinko wrote:Separate post for linki (I left tabs open):

Dom, slow your roll haha. Remember how I just said goodies weren't dumb enough to blatantly reveal themselves? I'm fairly dumb, but just a smidgeon less dumb than that.

Also, fingers, Made was on the list of people I would definitely not lynch. However, things changed and the lists actually reversed, so he's someone I would be down to lynch. Everyone I would have lynched before I absolutely would not now. Long story.

Linki again: I would respond, but you're addressing my alter ego.
Linki2: I do think it's reasonable, but am against my lynch in favor of lynching goodies.

Russtifinko wrote:And fingers, if it makes you feel better, I was exhausted from trying to get you lynched too. Our spar was fun, though.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dom wrote:I also think Made might be bad and is using his civ death earlier to his advantage.

Really? How so?

zeek wrote:My, my. Very eager.

Russtifinko wrote:- fixed. My rupees!

YOUR rupees?

Snow Dog wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Btw, if sabie is bad, Russti should be our next target. I'll wait until she flips to pursue it.

Linki: I don't think you should leave it on yourself, but that's just my thinking. Of course, that's coming from someone who couldn't make it on to change his self-vote on Day 2...

I don't know. The way bass jumped on my llama suggestion seemed opportunistic. I'll vote for him. I'm not entirely convinced though.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: I should have won Harry Potter.

S~V~S wrote:I played maybe 7 or 8 games before I won one.

Russtifinko wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:Wow. 9 votes for sabie. I'm not entirely sure why people are so sure she's bad, and why so many people have voted. Liz's vote to "get it over with" looks pretty off, too. My own initial ping with sabie had to do with her eagerness to see Made 2.0 as bad the day he was made...Made 2.0, but otherwise, not really sure. A lot of people are saying "insincere posting" and others seem to be voting "just because." This is worrisome, so even if it doesn't do much for the lynch today, I'm not gonna add vote #10.

Russ, I applaud your effort to get votes off of sabie and your massive case on splints, but you're all over the place, dude. One minute you're hardcore on splints, and then you're not. Same thing with the Boogs lynch, except in the opposite direction (not as hardcore on Boogs as your were with splints, but still). I understand that opinions can change, but I've played before with people who are "wishy-washy" in the thread and are bad, and others who point fingers at everyone they can, then back off to sneak suspicion in and they've been bad. This "all over the place-ness" (this is also a word because I said so) pings me more than sabie. Honestly, I'm really surprised no one has pointed this out as suspicious (unless I missed something, and sorry if I did and I'm taking credit). I'm putting my vote on Russ.

@sabie - You are doing nothing wrong! I think many people can attest to playing all different ways and getting themselves lynched, but also being able to stay alive and win. Talk too little, get lynched. Talk too much, get lynched. Too helpful, not helpful, too much in the middle, get lynched. It's a difficult game to get used to (I know I often have trouble keeping up and it took me a while to get used to accusing people while also realizing/hoping they won't get mad), but please keep playing!

Fair enough. A real case, based on me acting (I admit it) weird as hell. In fact, I would much rather everyone vote me than sabie. So bring it on! There's plenty of ammo to use building a case, and I can take it.

For my part, I'm voting MM. No time for a case right now, so I don't expect him to be lynched, but I think he needs the attention and I'll put one together as soon as I'm able.

Russtifinko wrote:Thanks, Snowie.

This might sound crazy or even absolutely batshit, but fingers has convinced me. I'm almost positive she's a civ now. So I will be changing my vote, and I think others should not vote for her.

However, I also think that no one at all should be voting sabie. The case against her is weak, and basically dates back to her being confused about the roles on Day 1. It's too easy, just like every other lynch this game has been.

At work and can't make cases now, but I now think we should be looking at someone who did send in a puzzle, maybe someone who's been very helpful this game. I think MM is a good place to start. And PLEASE do not lynch sabie, I think it'll turn out badly

sabie12 wrote:Well hey the baddies are winning this game. I've surprised you before Llama and I guess I will surprise you again. I'm not bad but I strongly feel that splints and llama are. Good luck to the civs that are left after you kill me and realize I'm good. I must just not be good at this game or something because I don't know what it is that I'm doing wrong this game. Maybe I'm just an idiot and don't even realize it. Sigh

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Dom wrote:Sabie gets my vote.

Besides Sabie who else is on your radar?

Snow Dog wrote:My gut says SVS was civ.

Made wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:One unique solution per person please.

And use different numbers. Not the same ones switched around.

Going to assume this is what Epi was talking about, i didn't see any that just switched numbers around, but i really only glanced

Also, Zeek AND Gotrees were bad in doctor who last game so

Snow Dog wrote:Well I had the graph set out even before Made posted it. I admit I had not filled in the numbers yet though. But it seems this is a gift to Hyrule to post it.

Snow Dog wrote:

zeek wrote:Really well done Made! I don't think I've ever seen a kakuro before. Well done on cracking this. While it does help the Hyrule, overall this benefits us way more as long as civs get in unique versions.

That's a very big if.

Made wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

zeek wrote:Really well done Made! I don't think I've ever seen a kakuro before. Well done on cracking this. While it does help the Hyrule, overall this benefits us way more as long as civs get in unique versions.

That's a very big if.

Not really.
There are a lot of unique solutions to this puzzle, from what I can tell.

And even if it were unlikely that civs didn't all turn in unique versions, it would be equally unlikely that mafia didn't submit unique entries.


A way to get around this tho....
EVERYONE SHARE THE KAKURO THEY SUBMITTED INTO THE THREAD!

This way if there are duplicate, we can fix them

Also, Sabie, turn in a kakuro

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dom wrote: i'm glad.
i'm really mafia'd out.

You just need to stop getting the SK role.

fingersplints wrote:

Dom wrote:Splints, you're right.

yay for being right

I don't have a read on you either way, but your play style this game made sense to me.

Made wrote:Splints, MR, Dom, Submit answers ._.


Also, As i'm not quite sure what everyone's going on about, I think that figuring out who wanted to push a Boog lynch, and who backed it would be the best place to start figuring out. I also think that holding this discussion off till tomorrow is in our best interest. Especially considering the death of MP last night.

thellama73 wrote:

Dom wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Dom wrote: I find your thoughts on me to be quite confounding. It makes you my number 2 suspect, if I'm perfectly honest.

Okay. Who's #1?

Sabie

Glad we are on the same page.