The Syndicate

V. Nice!

The game ended because you would have blocked him when he tried to kill and lynched him or lc the next lynch, then killed whoever was left.

Had you killed anyone else besides me that ngiht-- we'd have a different game, I think.

HAd I lived-- you guys were screwed

Made had one.

I died with three +1 votes.

Ricochet wrote:Well if you say you and Made intentionally distanced each other in everything from suspicions to voting, I think that's what backfired in lynching TH.

What backfired was him winning the posting contest

(but th wouldn't die)

Thought I could lynch you easily after TH, tbh.

Ricochet wrote:Rechecked: N5 we blocked BR (again). N9 we blocked Dom, hmm. That means Made killed Bass.

Made carried most of our kills.

S~V~S wrote:
Rico said:
- We killed SVS as a WIFOM. Actually we wanted a big player gone, so the shortlist was SVS, LC, Dom, but then Roxy just came in the BTSC and said "I'll kill SVS. Debate over". Hilarious.
It's funny, she is one of the people I pretty much never kill, like Bea said about me in another game, killing certain people almost feels like cheating to me. But this up here ^^ is something I will keep in mind for the future when i am a baddie with a kill, lol.

While I was a total fail (I should have trusted my instincts more, my early baddie list was MM, Rico & Made, ha ha) I learned alot this game, about myself and my game more than anything. I learned not to back off when someone is being a tad nasty with me; I always knew I did that, but I did not realize the extent I did it until this game. I also learned to look at the little picture, not just the big one. Had I pushed hard for MM from minute one instead of looking for associations, I would have done better, although perhaps i would have died sooner.

It gave me a lot of pause tbh. I didn't think Roxy would kill you. I mean, it didn't deter me much, but still....

Ricochet wrote:Dom, could I please get a walkthrough of your use of protects and who in your team did which killing, if you remember?

I tend to take more attention on, so I didn't cary most of the kills. We alternated protecting myself and my teammates. Before Lizzy was replaced, I don't think we protected her at all, and after she did, Timmer died so Made just replaced Timmer in that rotation between myself and my teammate.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I thought you killed Llama lol.
I did. But I thought it would be ambiguous enough that it could have been LC or something. Or someone setting me up.
I knew it I just had no way to prove it. And if I had tried to make a case on you, you would have gotten me lynched for pulling a NO U :P As I said, I really liked how aggressive you were, you gave me no wiggle room, I had no idea how to react to you. Please don't ever do it again

I can't believe I couldn't' get people to vote you. No matter how hard I tried, a good chunk of people wouldn't listen. That AMAZED me tbh.

Long Con wrote:
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I thought you killed Llama lol.
I did. But I thought it would be ambiguous enough that it could have been LC or something. Or someone setting me up.
Total setup of me. I was like, "Great."

Whoops.

FZ. wrote:Congrats to the winners I stopped following the game at some point.
Dom, did you kill me again? Who killed me and why?

I didn't. I killed odd nights and you died Night 2. You'll have to ask the winners. :/

I think Timmer

Turnip Head wrote:I thought you killed Llama lol.

I did.

But I thought it would be ambiguous enough that it could have been LC or something.

Or someone setting me up.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:question-- why did I die? I protected myself
We RB'd you and killed you ol' buddy.

rude.

Turnip Head wrote:
Made wrote:I think this was the first game i've ever played as baddie that I didn't loathe myself. Also kinda salty that I got 2/3rds a baddie team and Dom pinned as mafia when I died first time around :/

Oh speaking of my death first time around: I thought I had two lynch pardons, mean I Could be lynched twice with no consequence. I was wrong
You were not the only civ who didn't know how your own role worked :P I am still embarrassed about that

And you played a great baddie game Made. You and Dom distanced from each other really well. I suspected Dom but didn't suspect you because your opinions were so disparate. I didn't think you were bad until the final hours of the game.

Why did you REALLy think I was bad beyond my insistence that you were bad?

Made wrote:I think this was the first game i've ever played as baddie that I didn't loathe myself. Also kinda salty that I got 2/3rds a baddie team and Dom pinned as mafia when I died first time around :/

Oh speaking of my death first time around: I thought I had two lynch pardons, mean I Could be lynched twice with no consequence. I was wrong

i would hardly say I was pinned.

question-- why did I die?

I protected myself

Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:TH-- how you escaped my grasp SO many times is beyond me.
Dude, I have no idea! I got lucky a few times. I couldn't shake you! You had me on the defensive from the get-go, really brilliant strategy on your part. I felt so helpless lol.

That was the least effective I've ever been tbh. I could NOT get people to lynch you!!! I felt like such a bad baddie!

I knew in my heart you were bad so I was trying so so hard to get you out so I could get the other baddies out.

Rico-- good game. I kept wavering between you or LC being bad and when the game ended-- I thought it was LC. Amazing first game tbh.

I almost got away with it too!!

Good job winners! TH-- how you escaped my grasp SO many times is beyond me.

thx mongoose i loved this game lots tbh

can't say i'm surprised

Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:Wow, I can't believe TH avoided lynch again and got a civvie lynched-- again.
It's not like you didn't suspect her yourself. Don't put it all on me. I'm trying my hardest here.

If you were me, what would youthink about you at this point?
Honestly... tell me.

Can we stop pretending TH isn't bad now?

Wow, I can't believe TH avoided lynch again and got a civvie lynched-- again.

TH has made several posts that attack me, I respond, and then receive no response back because he is lying about his attack in the first place. Just saying.

Long Con wrote:I am not sure where my vote is going. I guess there's no reason why I shouldn't vote the same again. Who did Vomps vote for last time?

th, i think.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote: Like what kind of question is that?
I'm still just trying to figure out why exactly you suspect me with such conviction. LC thinks I'm a Hack, Canuck thinks I'm a Bro, they're able to back that up with some reasoning at least. You just say "th is bad tbh" over and over again and it's just... why? I don't know. That's why I asked that question. Still not sure I understand, but I'll stop asking.

This thread has gone cold. Where is everyone? What's everybody's thoughts on Canuck? She keeps playing her "i r dumb civ y'all" card, but let's be honest Canuckleberry Finn, we ALL have that card at this point

Didn't we have this discussion already?
And I answered this question?

*votes TH*

Turnip Head wrote:Dom, if I hadn't replaced Roxy, and I wasn't suspicious of you, would you be this convinced of my badness?

Your suspicion of me has very little to do with why I think you're bad.
And, yes, I would be less convinced of your badness if the situation was different? Like what kind of question is that?

so..th?

th is bad tbh

Canucklehead wrote:Query: how did TH get to ten posts so fast? Who was helping make sure that there were no double posts so they all counted?? That seems like a good place to look for some teamies working together to make sure the big prize went to them...

I was trying to get there before him. I almost had it too. :/

Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:And would you look at that-- Turnip Head narrowly avoids death once more-- almost like he's got a team supporting him or something.
This is the only time it's happened? And it's because of my prize. If I had any teammates I probably could have pushed an LC lynch through.

I'm on the fence about LC as well. His last few posts before the non-lynch were reading genuine to me.

linki: Pretty sure Dom and I were racing each other to 10 :P

You've been under suspicion since you subbed in. Roxy had suspicion surrounding her for eons. That's what I'm trying to say.

Turnip Head wrote:As much as I'd like to believe we're all one big happy civ family... somebody is lying.

A few someones-- one of them is very likely you.
Another one might be Canuck
Another might be Made
I'm still on the fence about LC.

And would you look at that-- Turnip Head narrowly avoids death once more-- almost like he's got a team supporting him or something.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Well, I've got one... seems almost everyone does. I haven't been participating in most of the contests though so I have no idea what else is floating out there.
What was your prize for being the first to get to 10
It was a good'un, and might help us civvies get back in this thing... no good if I'm dead of course. In any case, I have no interest in telling you just yet

still think you're bad.

Turnip Head wrote:Well, I've got one... seems almost everyone does. I haven't been participating in most of the contests though so I have no idea what else is floating out there.

What was your prize for being the first to get to 10

How many of those do you guys think are out there?

So... I almost killed her... you know.... like... lynched her... like... you know... very closely lynched her... have continued to express distrust of her... and I... you know... am on a team with her?

Canucklehead wrote:
Dom wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:Yeah, getting a bro would've been nicer (and I actually have you pencilled in as bro not Hack, but I obviously could be wrong) since tonight is a Bro kill night....but I'm happy to end the Hack team, too, if that's what ends up happening when you die.

The Civs are in dire straits, regardless...
Why do you think he is a Brother?
Random guessing that I did last night, plus his recent accusation of us three as bros.

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Why does that make him a Bro?

Made wrote:Hello friends, sorry for my absence. School is very quickly becoming "a bitch" as the kid say. That said, I made a commitment to play and i plan to keep it. Starting here:
Turnip Head wrote:TurnipHead 2.0
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Dom (6), Long Con (7), Canucklehead (8) 38%

Ladies and gentlemen, The Brotherhood? They seem awfully quick to get this over with. Maybe they're about to win. Oh well. I don't care anymore. Get me outta here.
Pretty much where i am at this point. I don't like this little team/possy that seems to be forming, especially this late in the game, especially considering i don't trust any of them, especially since they all voted together. Like let's put i this way: we have yet to lynch a baddie since MM, and you all, especially Canuck and LC, trust each other this much? This does not sit right with me in the slightest. And i feel all other players should look at this also.

and 1

Considering I voted Canuck a few days ago and it almost resulted in her dying... what the hell?

*wouldn't mind a Canuck lynch right about now*

Canucklehead wrote:LC could very well be snowing me. He does it all the time. He could just be feigning agreement with me in order to gain my trust, knowing that I'm much more likely to trust those who carry the same suspicions I do. If so, he's doing a damn fine job of it and deserves the win. But honestly, that seems like a fuckton of work to put into gaining the trust of a single player who only a few days ago was a surefire lynch candidate. It doesn't make a lot of sense from a baddie POV, when abandoning me and getting me lynched would be a WAAAY easier and way faster way to burn through the civs.
I could be wrong about LC, I often am.

But I have chosen to trust him at this late stage in the game, and it may very well be my downfall, but sometimes you gotta take a risk, and at this point I'm more comfortable with the unknown quantity that is LC than the REALLY unknown quantity that is Lizzie/Made.

Dom gets a ticket on my trust wagon, too, because he's been damn consistent and playing a very odd game for a baddie. Also, he's more or less agreed with my main suspicions of late, so yeah. Those are the two I've thrown my lot in with. Vomps gets a pass because I'm 95% sure he's not a Hack, and have a strong feeling he's not a bro.

That means the rest of y'all are likely bad.That's just how the cookie crumbles.
I don't think a win is in the cards for me this game, and that's fine because the civs have really been mostly atrocious (me in particular), but I'm not ready to just give up and hand it to the baddies.

Where does your trust in Vomps come from?

Turnip Head wrote:Guess I'll vote LC to give myself a fighting chance and get Vomp closer to his beloved early lynchpost. I'd prefer to vote Dom or Canuck, I think they're the ringleaders. But it is what it is.

ok
like
what

Canucklehead wrote:Yeah, getting a bro would've been nicer (and I actually have you pencilled in as bro not Hack, but I obviously could be wrong) since tonight is a Bro kill night....but I'm happy to end the Hack team, too, if that's what ends up happening when you die.

The Civs are in dire straits, regardless...

Why do you think he is a Brother?

Turnip Head wrote:No, it means I see three players voting together without waiting for discussions, when it's do or die time, and I assume it means they are close to winning. Besides, even if I am a baddie Hack, that's not the team we need to try to take out today. The Brotherhoodlums are likely stronger than the Hacks numbers-wise and are probably close to taking over the game.

So yeah, if you want the game to end and the Brotherhood to win, by all means vote for poor and alone civvie TH.

Then outline who the baddies are.
I tried to get you to do this more than once. You said Canuck, were proven wrong and have brought literally nothing to the table until you received a vote and called all of your votes bad.

Long Con wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Long Con wrote:Unloess the baddies have done some excellent killing of each other, we're getting to the point where the game will just end if TH is Civ.
Worst reasoning ever tbqh
Reasoning? That wasn't reasoning, it was dejected pondering.

And I'm not in the Brotherhood. Wait, that means you're on the other baddie team, TH? Sweet.

^^^

everyone pls vote th

Turnip Head wrote:TurnipHead 2.0
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Dom (6), Long Con (7), Canucklehead (8) 38%

Ladies and gentlemen, The Brotherhood? They seem awfully quick to get this over with. Maybe they're about to win. Oh well. I don't care anymore. Get me outta here.

lol

*vote TH*

Canucklehead wrote:
Dom wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:
Dom wrote:LC can you clear up what you're confused about?
He's confused about how an easy Canuck lynch in which he could continue t follow along unnoticed was so rapidly turned around, in the process making him look rather opportunistic.
So, you're suspicious of LC?
Not any more than I'm suspicious of pretty much everyone at this point. I was mostly just needling him

Well, that leaves me thinking TH is most likely bad again.

Canucklehead wrote:
Dom wrote:LC can you clear up what you're confused about?
He's confused about how an easy Canuck lynch in which he could continue t follow along unnoticed was so rapidly turned around, in the process making him look rather opportunistic.

So, you're suspicious of LC?

LC can you clear up what you're confused about?

Turnip Head wrote:Also, while we're talking about the kosherness of dead players subbing back in, while I agree it can be problematic, I think I was very careful to use things that TH1.0 said and did in the thread only. I don't think I used anything that only TH1.0 would have known in private.

Clearly.

I would agree tbh, so kudos.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:
Mongoose wrote:@ TurnipHead - Target the subsequent night.
oh
Hence why I felt my "..." post was on-topic. :P

Eh.

Canucklehead wrote:
Mongoose wrote:@ TurnipHead - Target the subsequent night.

oh

Canucklehead wrote: My question is: why didn't you bring this point about me up earlier?! Honestly, if you believed it to be true its kinda a big deal, and not something I would expect any civ to keep to themselves. Were you just waitin for a moment when the thread seemed more succeptible to ring lead into a lynch of me?

This is kind of where I'm at with TH as well. I don't think this looks good for him, but nonetheless, I thought his points were good. I am confused about why you are saying it's wrong-- when did we get confirmation that this was bunk?

In my quick skim of your posts I missed those-- I'll have to digest this.

Honestly, this is so confusing to me. Both TH and Canuck are suspicious in my eyes. TH brought up some good points, but I'm more puzzled by the fact that he is saying it's bunk?

In addition, I don't know how TH's answers to my questions are sitting with me.

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Nice job, TH.

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