The Syndicate

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I was completely convinced Juliets was good, soc congratulations to her for pulling the wool over my eyes.

Man, I hate losing.

You are still alive so how did you lose? I don't understand.

My win condition of killing all the baddies was not satisfied and I was not on the winning team.

I was completely convinced Juliets was good, soc congratulations to her for pulling the wool over my eyes.

Man, I hate losing.

The A Team wrote:But have you actually read his posts? He is all over the map. Didn't want to lynch MP at first didn't want to lynch Vomps.

It's a llama's perogative to change his mind. I have been very busy today and haven't had a chance to post much, may not get a chance to vote later so am voting now for FH.

This lynch is a difficult decision. I am definitely reading Kate, Snow Dog, juliets and russ as civvie. I suspected BWT for a while, but I think he has satisfactorily answered all my objections. By process of elimination, that leaves Flyin' High. I can't quite put my finger on it, but her posts have struck me as a bit off. Also, the chemistry book suspected her twice. If it were only once, I would put it down to false information, but twice is pretty compelling. Right now she is the most likely to get my vote today.

Great post, Juliets!

I am happy for people to evaluate the evidence and will gladly answer any questions. One thing you forgot to mention is that I was the only person besides LT, boo and Flyin' High (all of whom voted for me) NOT to vote for LT 2.0.

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

The A Team wrote: I noticed that Roxy, Reywas and LT all had llama as their biggest suspicion before they were NK'ed or lynched, coincidence, most likely not.

You really think I need to silence those who question me? Absurd. I am happy to answer their suspicions without having to resort to dirty tricks.

You have to admit it looks suspicious.

I would invite you to consider the possibility that it looks suspicious because someone wants it to look suspicious. I didn't vote for LT, and given the number of votes for her, I couldn't have orchestrated that kill if I had wanted to.

The A Team wrote: I noticed that Roxy, Reywas and LT all had llama as their biggest suspicion before they were NK'ed or lynched, coincidence, most likely not.

You really think I need to silence those who question me? Absurd. I am happy to answer their suspicions without having to resort to dirty tricks.

Cyndi (not Cyndy, S~V~S) Lauper is awesome, not cheesy. I vote Conan, whose books I have recently discovered are all but unreadable for the cheese dripping from their pages.

LittleTiger wrote:I am thinking The A-Team has been compromised

Yeah, no kidding. I've been saying that since the beginning.

RIP (again) LT. I'm glad I didn't vote for you.

LittleTiger wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:
No, silly... FH - she is an entomologist

Man, I would love a job studying Ents. I'd get to go to Entmoot and everything.

Did I spell it wrong?

No. I just like Ents.

LittleTiger wrote:
No, silly... FH - she is an entomologist

Man, I would love a job studying Ents. I'd get to go to Entmoot and everything.

Some of the A-Team's info has been good (such as about Vompatti) but some of it has been very bad (such as about me) so I think it wise to take everything they say with a grain of salt.

At least Snow Dog and Kate trust me. The rest of you should follow their lead.

LittleTiger wrote: But I still think, strongly, that YOU are bad

I don't know why I ask your advice. You clearly don't know anything. :P

Snow Dog wrote:Any possibilty that Llama's vote could be forced somehow?

No.

LittleTiger wrote:Well, Russtifinko, if you lot succeed in voting me out yet again, you will end up with the same result as last time. I am a civvie.

And if I had thought about this, we wouldn't even be having this discussion until the next Day.... I am just fail this time around LOL! Oh well...

What's your read on He-Man, LT?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Although I voted for He-Man, I would like to go on record as fully supporting another LT vote as well.

Then why not vote for LT or at least spend a little more time to consider it?

Because I suspect He-Man more than LT. I vote for the person I suspect most, not the politically expedient choice.

Although I voted for He-Man, I would like to go on record as fully supporting another LT vote as well.

He-Man wrote:Lol llama why am I bad again?

I assume because S~V~S assigned you a baddie role at the start of the game, or you were recruited.

Or you didn't get enough love as a child.

He-Man wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

He-Man wrote: I hope that eases your suspicion of me a little, I'm not bad honest

Well, if you're so innocent, how come I just voted to lynch you? Explain that if you can with your science!

Maybe cos your bad and want me dead?

If I were bad, why would I want you, another baddie, dead? It makes no sense. Think, man, think!

He-Man wrote: I hope that eases your suspicion of me a little, I'm not bad honest

Well, if you're so innocent, how come I just voted to lynch you? Explain that if you can with your science!

Dex wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Out of curiosity, Dex, what happens if you put a space between every letter? I think that might be a way to beat the i n s a n i f i e r.

L e t s t r y !

You're welcome.

Snow Dog wrote:

Dex wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Got there in the end. You may be right, took some efort but I got the general gist if not the complete picture. If you have anything rteally important to say maybe you can signify somehow?

XEELNTCLE GUGSETOSIN oh sonwy utmt! Fi I ma optsing smoetihgn of tpoamrienc ofmr ehre on out I lwli gbnie het psto in lal spac!

Mutt?

lal spacl? Post in lal....all...are not spacl,spac!!!!....caps....d'oh!

Out of curiosity, Dex, what happens if you put a space between every letter? I think that might be a way to beat the i n s a n i f i e r.

Dex wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Got there in the end. You may be right, took some efort but I got the general gist if not the complete picture. If you have anything rteally important to say maybe you can signify somehow?

XEELNTCLE GUGSETOSIN oh sonwy utmt! Fi I ma optsing smoetihgn of tpoamrienc ofmr ehre on out I lwli gbnie het psto in lal spac!

"Excellent suggestion, oh Snowy Mutt! If I am spotting something of importance from here on out I will begin the post in all caps"

A very good idea, Dex old man. I look forward to your insights.

I agree with Boo about He-Man. His posting patterns seem to me like a wolf trying to blend in with the sheep without helping them out too much.

I don't expect you'll believe me, but I am not a baddie.

He-Man wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

He-Man wrote:

boo wrote:That being said, if I'm wrong, I'm going to guess the role MP and Vomp recruited was Assorted Chemicals, as that was Vomps role-hinted, and if they had recruited that role he could have safely hinted at it without having to worry about anyone calling him out on it.

Very interesting Boo. Nice catch

I've noticed that He-Man frequently congratulates others on their deductions while not making any contribution of his own. This seems to me very suspect. I will have my on you, sir.

NO U

Oh, good point. Nevermind then.

He-Man wrote:

boo wrote:That being said, if I'm wrong, I'm going to guess the role MP and Vomp recruited was Assorted Chemicals, as that was Vomps role-hinted, and if they had recruited that role he could have safely hinted at it without having to worry about anyone calling him out on it.

Very interesting Boo. Nice catch

I've noticed that He-Man frequently congratulates others on their deductions while not making any contribution of his own. This seems to me very suspect. I will have my on you, sir.

Snow Dog wrote:Another common one is to choose the opposite letters. rg

ABCDEFGHIJKLM
NOPQRSTUVWXYZ

wher A = N B + O tec

If you know that, why did you ask me to give an example?

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote: Nor is it a simple substitution cipher. Gibberish is looking better all the time.

A simple substitution cipher? That's easy for you to say!

Can you give an example?

It's the easiest code to break. You just substitute a letter or a number or a symbol for each letter of the alphabet. A common one is to shift the letters by one, so A becomes B, B becomes C, etc. In this system, the sentence "I don't trust Snow Dog" would read "J epo'u usvtu TopX Eph."

reywaS is clearly not using a cipher like this because his posts contain 3 of the same letter in a row and several one-letter words in a row.

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

reywaS wrote:J Biieeltet a lti liJBt viIoel dvBev Iniiva ltnBttJnteoe dd dea BaIJ Btai Idl l eteIo tJl I eeJJ dB iedllvId dJnI aovin e ttiiee IIiniddiloIil aBde inI lvnBeene Ji alaln enJB ln dnietIenioaJeivoaao lvaeiIve vneo Ieivl dli a eB o o vdl Iei t d idnliJlliavaoeeedI oIlvn eooe J eo t idai eeIeItJiB v iIe vdine ioB li a n JBn deev o Jei v ald d l vlIoIadIlv Inaii Iaone oo eeeatnelnJIllloveJ l vd d ooIdle ii en v lla aiddJ telJv Javvvea v liavliBnBB lJtIe Jed ioiviett JaJ ooleavieei vaJde

A Scandinavian language? Eastern European? Gibberish?

I'm fairly sure it's no known human language.

Me too.

Nor is it a simple substitution cipher. Gibberish is looking better all the time.

Snow Dog wrote:

reywaS wrote:J Biieeltet a lti liJBt viIoel dvBev Iniiva ltnBttJnteoe dd dea BaIJ Btai Idl l eteIo tJl I eeJJ dB iedllvId dJnI aovin e ttiiee IIiniddiloIil aBde inI lvnBeene Ji alaln enJB ln dnietIenioaJeivoaao lvaeiIve vneo Ieivl dli a eB o o vdl Iei t d idnliJlliavaoeeedI oIlvn eooe J eo t idai eeIeItJiB v iIe vdine ioB li a n JBn deev o Jei v ald d l vlIoIadIlv Inaii Iaone oo eeeatnelnJIllloveJ l vd d ooIdle ii en v lla aiddJ telJv Javvvea v liavliBnBB lJtIe Jed ioiviett JaJ ooleavieei vaJde

A Scandinavian language? Eastern European? Gibberish?

I'm fairly sure it's no known human language.

Snow Dog wrote:INH was a major suspect before it seems. Why should that change with LT in control? It is a bit cruel to lynch her twice I suppose. Ironically we lynched her first time for her hasty vote for Vompatti and her random vote was correct all along.

I have been thinking along these lines as well.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:BIH Vomps! Excellent result!

Not really big on any of these songs in particular, but I have to give support to Bowie, since he's......well, David f-ing Bowie.

I'm lynching BWT next for lack of music knowledge.

Well, my voting radar may have been off so far this game, but at least this is an easy choice. No song says "80s" like Hungry Like The Wolf.

Wow! Good job everyone. I don't know how you were so certain, but I guess experience pays in this game.

Also, hooray for Mitchell and Webb!

He-Man wrote:I don't get the suspicion A team has of me, oh well. Hope I can change your mind soon mr T.

Mr. T is full of jive turkey jibber-jabber. If he doesn't trust you, then I do!

Snow Dog wrote:*Voted Little Tiger*

I think she's bad.

At least it's not her birthday anymore.

Snow Dog wrote:Everyone besides Llama seems very sure on Vompatti...why am I wavering?

Maybe, like me, you just tend to rebel against consensus.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: Llama, the main reason I am suspicious of Vomps can be found back in the giant post I made a few pages back (it's the very last one on the bottom of the page, so it shouldn't be too hard to find). Basically, me re-reading him and pulling all those quotes is why I am so suspicious of him and think he is bad.

Yes, I just reread that. It was a very well put together argument, which is why I am much less suspicious of you than I used to be.

I'm beginning to suspect a target switch of some sort.

Well fine then, I'm happy to be the sole voice of dissent. Hopefully I will be proven wrong.

*Votes Kate*

Snow Dog wrote:
Kate? No one has suspected her yet vocally I think.

What can I say? I just have to be different like that.

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:The "Vompatti assumed MP has a partner, therefore he must be bad" line of attack is intensely confusing to me, as a casual glance at the role list indicates that the baddies come in teams of two. I'm wondering if this might be a diversionary tactic by people who want to get the Vomp out of the way for some reason.

He agreed he was bad and discussed his partner as though he was certain that he had one, thus he knew MP was bad. Make sense?

It doesn't actually make sense to me, but perhaps I am being dense.

I have much to think on.

His replies unsettle me. He seems evasive. Who do you suspect?

My problem is that I don't have anyone who is sticking out to me as a clear suspect. That is why I am asking what may appear to be dumb questions. I am afraid of accidentally lynching a civvie again, but I don't have a clear sense of who to vote for.

In all honesty, my top suspect is probably now Kate, as she voted for Boo when MP was on the chopping block, and she seems overly aggressive in her pursuit to lynch Vompatti, who has seemed (based purely on intuition) to be legit to me.

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:The "Vompatti assumed MP has a partner, therefore he must be bad" line of attack is intensely confusing to me, as a casual glance at the role list indicates that the baddies come in teams of two. I'm wondering if this might be a diversionary tactic by people who want to get the Vomp out of the way for some reason.

He agreed he was bad and discussed his partner as though he was certain that he had one, thus he knew MP was bad. Make sense?

It doesn't actually make sense to me, but perhaps I am being dense.

I have much to think on.

The "Vompatti assumed MP has a partner, therefore he must be bad" line of attack is intensely confusing to me, as a casual glance at the role list indicates that the baddies come in teams of two. I'm wondering if this might be a diversionary tactic by people who want to get the Vomp out of the way for some reason.

Flyin' High wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm a little nervous about the seeming bandwagon on Vompatti. Why are people so sure that he is MP's partner?

Have you been reading the posts we've been making about Vompatti? Not to sound snarky, but I think the case for Vompatti being MP's teammate has been approached from multiple angles by multiple people.

And bandwagon? The mafia teams only have 2 people apiece. With MP dead, there is no one left to defend MP's teammate.

Yes, I thought of that, but I still don't know if I'm convinced. The anti-Vompatti posts have been numerous, but I'm having a hard time seeing compelling evidence. I'm not saying I trust him-far from it-but neither am I sure that he is bad.

You don't sound snarky. I probably could have phrased my request more clearly. The reason I asked the question I did was not because I have not been reading the arguments, but I was hoping for a concise summary of why there is such confidence in a vompatti vote so that I could better make up my mind, rather than digesting dozens of different posts making dozens of different arguments.

I'm a little nervous about the seeming bandwagon on Vompatti. Why are people so sure that he is MP's partner?

Vompatti wrote: Where can I find this "significant suspicion" of him being a baddie?

It is quite easy to find, particularly from LT after I voted her off. The A-Team has it in for me as well, and I have been accused of faking my insanity. I don't particularly mind these suspicions, as it is all part of the game, but I don't see how offering defenses against them makes me any more likely to be a baddie.

Russtifinko wrote:Actually, He-Man wrote "nice catch Rey" right after that post, so there was some support for the idea. I partially retract my apology. I further put forth that it seems vomps may be grasping at straws, as his suspicion of me seems to have come from nowhere (he never mentioned me before today) and is now suddenly worth a vote

Thanks for the thoughtful response, Russ. I have to admit, I was considering giving you my vote today after what I vieed as a baseless accusations, but you have successfully alleviated my suspicions in that regard. rewaS's critique of my post doesn't really make sense to me, so I might look at him, and I am not particularly pinged by Vompatti. Also, He-Man's "nice catch" post feels a little opportunistic, latching onto something without contributing anything of his own.

In all honesty, I still have no idea for whom to vote today.

Russtifinko wrote: Are people pretty sure now that llama was faking insanification? If that's true I think he needs to go, and better sooner than later.

What makes you think I was faking?