The Syndicate

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Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I knew Ricochet was bad! I told everyone!
You thought I was good.

You are hard to read, but I was amazed that NO ONE ever went after Ricochet after I died when he was so obviously up to no good.

I knew Ricochet was bad! I told everyone!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Rezz please.

Isidore Ducasse

I'm voting for John Landis who directed such American classics as The Blues Borthers and An American Werewolf in London.

I met him once, and I stammered embarrassingly like a smitten schoolgirl.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Long Con wrote:Well well well....

Wellity wellity wellity....
Hello, Long Con! Happy to see me?

Could anybody help me out with a quick recap?
I'm dead.

Me too.

Canucklehead wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!
Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

Cheater. No rezz for you.
Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?

I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.
Technically, in Jeopardy you need to know the correct question

Not really though, because they never accept "what is written on the board under 'American History $100'" or similar as correct.

Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!
Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

Cheater. No rezz for you.

Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?

I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.

Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!

Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

A copper! And his name is Fallon!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Am I alive?

Am I alive too?

Canucklehead wrote:
Long Con wrote:My theory for the Roxy survival is best left unsaid, and I think that's probably in line with the reason Roxy and Llama are staying silent.
Actually, I think llama is staying silent because llama is dead.

rezz plz

Ricochet wrote:As a joke.

You have violated my intellectual property.

Ricochet wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I haven't gone over the case on TH just yet (I'm about to), but is everyone just ignoring that Llama said he intended to vote for LC today and then gets killed that very night? I doubt LC would be that unsubtle, but I think it strengthens the need to look into his posts/votes more closely.
Not ignoring, but it's something to be careful about, since we've been fooled before the same way (FZ's night kill).

Except if you intentionally want us to pursue this.

Hey, why are you appropriating my Minimalism Mafia banner? You didn't play that game!

Supatown.

Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Is it stiil Night 5? What's going on? I'm disoriented.
I made the Night 5 cycle longer to get us back on a normal schedule.

Oh, there's nothing normal here.

Dom wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, it being night still allows me more time to catch up again.
You didn't miss much except Long Con turning out to be bad.
I'm neutral on LC--

other than tone, is there anything that sparks your eye?

Nope. That's enough.

S~V~S wrote:Um, sorry I don't agree there, Sparky.

That's okay. I'll be vindicated in the long run.

S~V~S wrote:Well, it being night still allows me more time to catch up again.

You didn't miss much except Long Con turning out to be bad.

Is it stiil Night 5? What's going on? I'm disoriented.

It's primarily tone.

This post:

Long Con wrote:Sorry, Made, at the risk of sounding cliché, I really thought we had a baddie that time.

I PMed the host, and she told me that Uwe Boll can use the power at will, there doesn't seem to be a triggering mechanism.

We're being really crappy Civvies. I may have forgotten how to be an effective Civvie, after being Black Knight and Gollum and Miles Axelrod, and in the Monopoly game I was LMS very early on... I am just not a good Civvie anymore.

and this one:

Long Con wrote:TH, fantastic job on the Made research! That's looks like some top-quality analysis to me, and it put Made on top of my list, so I will vote for him now.

*votes Made*

Feel completely hollow and insincere. "We are being bad civvies" is I line I'm sure I've heard baddies say before, and his "goshamagolly, TH! You sure are smart! Made must be bad after all!" felt way too easy.

Combine that with the fact that he was one of the few people to get votes in before the thread was locked, and that is enough for me. I'll be voting Long Con tomorrow, but I would prefer if I were not alone.

S~V~S wrote:I had to walk away for 24 hours. I suck, and I am sorry

Don't be sorry. What do you think of Long Con? His last couple of posts have me firmly distrusting him.

Black Rock wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:*sigh* Did no one else PM the host to check first? I saw the locked thread and PM'd her right away. I also PM'd her when I saw mods posting still. Read the roles guys, it's helpful. Maybe next time the host should post in the thread that it's locked. I don't have a lot of time right now but I will go back and say somethings I wanted to say when the thread was locked.

RIP Made. I am certain the baddies locked the thread when three civvies were tied at one vote each, giving them a free lynch. I would have probably voted Made if I could have just because the other two I am certain are civvie and I had no idea if he was or not.
So you think Rico and SVS are civ, amiright?
I made a mistake. I do think SVS is civ but I am not certain who Rico could be. I thought the third vote was on someone else when I saw the poll. These polls can be confusing.

Not Hack != Civ. But it does make it more likely.

Long Con wrote:Sorry, Made, at the risk of sounding cliché, I really thought we had a baddie that time.

I PMed the host, and she told me that Uwe Boll can use the power at will, there doesn't seem to be a triggering mechanism.

We're being really crappy Civvies. I may have forgotten how to be an effective Civvie, after being Black Knight and Gollum and Miles Axelrod, and in the Monopoly game I was LMS very early on... I am just not a good Civvie anymore.

This, combined with your vote post for made, which was all "golly gee, TH! Good point! I sure am convinced!" has earned you my vote tomorrow.

Spacedaisy wrote:If so I greatly apologize. In all honesty I was afraid I had accidently locked it while using my iPad. crap.

The votes were 1-1-1 when I came in.

I did the exact same thing for the exact same reason.

RIP Made. At least the thread lock incident gives us some insight into who the Hacks might be.

I just read MM LONG read! Stop posting so much, MM.

If he is bad, he is playing like a champ, because I just cannot see what others are seeing there.

BWT, I might join you in a Rico vote, because there is still a kernel of suspicion from Day 1 that lingers in my mind. Dom is my first choice, but I am sensitive to what SVS said about spreading the vote (it's an argument I've made many times) and I don't see much eagerness to pile onto Dom today. I'm going to reread Rico and TH next.

Okay, I finished my reread of Made. Here's the thing: he doesn't make any sense. Apart from what TH pointed out, there's also his weird idea that I should still suspect SVS despite Vomps flipping civ. Also, he kept saying "Llama is not the person I'm planning to gun for." Then when people asked him who he was planning to gun for, he refused to answer. Then when the time came he gunned for.... no one really. He expressed suspicions of Roxy and SVS, but I hardly call that gunning.

All that said, I am hesitant to vote for Made for acting weird. I have been burned on that before, and Made kind of always acts weird, and baddies tend to try to avoid standing out like that. Not sure. MM is next on my reading list.

Long Con wrote:As for Llama... still seems slimy to me, but I'm willing to wait another day to deal with that.

Your vote post seems slimy to me, so let's call it even.

I may live to regret this, but I trust SVS this game, and I agree with her about keeping our votes together. TH makes a persuasive case on Made. I'll make a decision on who to vote for before too long.

Mongoose wrote:Good evening, players.

Hope you are having a very special Tuesday.

I'm planning on a film club event this weekend where we would all watch The Golem at the same time. Stay tuned for details. It is available on Youtube.

As you were!

Can we make it on Sunday? The conference I am speaking at (because I am so big and important) is on Saturday.

Made wrote:If this helps anyone: I think it's worth point out the interesting trust dynamic that seems to be going on.

MM, Myself, Rico, Llama(?), DF

vs

Roxy, SVS, TH, Dom, LC

BR, Canuck, BWT are neither positive or negative to either of the trust groups.

I'm not saying this to create an overarching argument about the roles or possible association between the two groups, since this is very much simplified (notably when you look at Llama and LC). That said I think BR, Canuck, and BWT are an interesting group in the fact that they seem to be escaping the aforementioned feud.

What the heck? This is completely inaccurate with respect to me. If I had to group those players into Trust v. Don't Trust, it would look like this.

Trust: DF, SVS, Roxy, maybe Made but less so
Don't Trust: Dom, Rico, Maybe MM, maybe BR, Maybe LC

S~V~S wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:Hmmmmm....I don't know if I'm suspicious of Dom exactly, but his posts have seemed very curt/terse this game which is not what I normally associate Dom with. Since he hasn't been under a huge deal of suspicion (apart from his bout with MP), I'm having difficulty ascribing it to civvie frustration....perhaps a baddie frustrated by kill fails? Or by teammates who aren't pulling their weight?
I'm not willing to vote for Dom based merely on my (very subjective) Interperetation I the tone of his posts, but it has been drawing my attention throughout the game, so I'd like to hear others' opinions on whether this is regular Dom (and I'm just remembering him wrong and/or misinterpreting his short responses) or whether this is odd
No one ever takes my opinions seriously.
Huh?
What?
wat

(wher's Dom when you need him??)

Who?

Canucklehead wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:Hmmmmm....I don't know if I'm suspicious of Dom exactly, but his posts have seemed very curt/terse this game which is not what I normally associate Dom with. Since he hasn't been under a huge deal of suspicion (apart from his bout with MP), I'm having difficulty ascribing it to civvie frustration....perhaps a baddie frustrated by kill fails? Or by teammates who aren't pulling their weight?
I'm not willing to vote for Dom based merely on my (very subjective) Interperetation I the tone of his posts, but it has been drawing my attention throughout the game, so I'd like to hear others' opinions on whether this is regular Dom (and I'm just remembering him wrong and/or misinterpreting his short responses) or whether this is odd
No one ever takes my opinions seriously.
Huh?

What?

Oh, and Made. I saw your question. No read on Canuck at the moment, but I will add her to my list of rereads for tomorrow.

Canucklehead wrote:Hmmmmm....I don't know if I'm suspicious of Dom exactly, but his posts have seemed very curt/terse this game which is not what I normally associate Dom with. Since he hasn't been under a huge deal of suspicion (apart from his bout with MP), I'm having difficulty ascribing it to civvie frustration....perhaps a baddie frustrated by kill fails? Or by teammates who aren't pulling their weight?
I'm not willing to vote for Dom based merely on my (very subjective) Interperetation I the tone of his posts, but it has been drawing my attention throughout the game, so I'd like to hear others' opinions on whether this is regular Dom (and I'm just remembering him wrong and/or misinterpreting his short responses) or whether this is odd

No one ever takes my opinions seriously.

Turnip Head wrote:I now see that you could have meant you'll vote MM and not me, but it wasn't clear.

Linki. What? Sure. That doesn't answer my question though, I was talking about the vote part.

Oh, I see the confusion. "him" in that sentence referred to Dom. Apologies.

Turnip Head wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I still want to reread TH and MM before the lynch (been crazy busy at work) but I would not be surprised if I voted for him tomorrow.
Why? The last thing you said about me re: alignment is that I'm probably a civ, and you haven't reread me yet apparently, so I'm super curious.

I generally think it's worth rereading people when others are talking about lynching them. Don't you?

Dom wrote:Ah-- Llama bringing up THAT tired post where he crucifies me for being wrong about MP (like he was wrong about everyone), asking questions (because that's bad!), and lies (because he is not an easy lynch)

I still like it. I think it is a nice little post. I'm thinking about printing it out and framing it.

Also, I am with you and SVS on Roxy, Canuck. I don't want to lynch her.

Canucklehead wrote:Today my vote is pretty mch up for grabs because I am pretty damn lost, and my previous thoughs have proved not good. Someone buy my vote with reason, logic, intuition, and/or charm!

I am very intrigued by the swarming MM suspicions. He's been neutral/unreadable for me so far, but I owe him a re-read since a few people on my think-they're-civ list have serious doubts about MM.

BR, any thoughts on TH? You were the only person who seemed even marginally on board with my suspicions of him, and I'm just wondering if your thoughts on him have changed in either direction. I'm still pretty torn.

Anyone else have thoughts on TH? Or thoughts on Dom?

I don't get the Roxy suspicions, so if anyone wants my vote to go there, I'll need some convincing.

I have thoughts on Dom! Let me pull them for you.

*scurry scurry*

Ah yes, here they are. Right where I left them.

thellama73 wrote:I am bored of not making cases, and since it seems like there is contingent of people eager to lynch me tomorrow, I guess I better start preparing my defense. MongooseLawyer would approve.

Has anyone read Dom lately? I just did, and a couple of things really stand out.

1. Have you noticed that almost every one of his on topic posts (at least for the first few days) was a question? This is always a red flag for me. It's a great way to participate without committing to much.
2. His campaign against MP, who we now know was as civvie as the day is long.
3. The thing that inspired me to do the reread was the way he jumped onto me after the Blooper lynch (for which he missed the vote.) It feels like the height of opportunism, because no player has stuck his neck out as much as I have. I would be an extremely easy lynch, and when I flip civ, anyone could reasonably say "well, what was I supposed to do? He kept leading campaigns against civvies!"

Anything that allows a player to dodge accountability sticks out as baddie-esque to me, and Dom's Socratic method combined with his opportunistic pouncing on me are both great examples of accountability dodging.

I still want to reread TH and MM before the lynch (been crazy busy at work) but I would not be surprised if I voted for him tomorrow.

Turnip Head wrote:Because everyone's opinion has value regardless of whether others agree with it or listen to it. It is important to know what people think and why they think it. Do you disagree?

I don't disagree, but I can't help but notice a lack of such through exploration the opinions of, say, Canucklehead, as opposed to me and SVS.

Turnip Head wrote:Llama, stop it. You hold your opinion higher than anyone else's. And when we don't listen to you, you scold us. Yet when people ask for your opinion, you act as if it shouldn't matter.

Yeah, I value my opinion because it is mine, but I don't understand why the rest of you value it, since I am always wrong.

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think SVS is suggesting that Roxy is Godard (vomps message partner) since she defended vomps, because how else would Roxy be certain of vomps being civ while also being civ? If Roxy is civ and she knew vomps was civ, there would be no reason to entertain a vote for him.

I might be wrong about what SVS is insinuating, but that's how I read it.
How would I know such a thing? I did consider it but those roles can't out to each other according to the first page.

Not sure why my opinion means so much to the two of you, you seem to have spent the whole day talking about it.

Welcome to my world, SVS.

Stressful day at work, guys. I'll be watching Barry Lyndon if anyone needs me. Also, you should all watch Barry Lyndon.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Guys, should I vote for Rico out of spite?
No. Only if you have a good reason for thinking he's bad.

Okay, good plan.

Guys, should I vote for Rico out of spite?

I actually don't know who I'm voting for today for once. I don't really think it will be Roxy. I have a couple of ideas. I think I need to give MM a thorough reread.

Mongoose wrote:Treasure of the Sierra Madre is one of my favorite films.

We don't need no stinking badges.

I just spoke with Mongoose on the phone. She should be home from her trip in a matter of hours, and I told her she needed to at least check in here. Hopefully she does.

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