The Syndicate

good game LC

Now I can post.

I tried to post and it said it was locked. Thought a host post was coming soon.

I wish at this point.

i feel like you've not read any of my posts about you with the things youve said this last hour

I know you meant to mention Sprit as farted Day 1. I said it seems like that was done in passing so you could say that very thing at end game as you just did. And you were smart to throw it in with another name (SVS).

but then you go and say things like...if you vote me you wont win and I hate last man standing so I wouldnt vote a partner like that.

But you had no choice but to vote him or tie it up.

Listen, if I'm wrong...I'm sorry.

I'm super tired from being in the sun all day.

I don;t know why I responded to that quote instead of you asking me about the facts.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:58 pm Another question for LC:

Why have you withheld your theory about me throwing sprityo under the bus, waiting to see when I should "OH DAMN BETTER JUMP ON" until endgame?

I'm almost sure we've been talking about this for a while event when falcon was still alive. And I mentioned the way you threw sprits name out there and said you wouldn't sniff in his or SVS direction, something like that. Also, I talked about you bringing up the sleeping votes.

I have a question for you. If LC is bad, why would he kill falcon over me?

We've been talking about them. I will have to go get the posts...

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:58 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?
For you it's smaller things throughout the past couple days when I've had to look at everyone with a microscope - comments here and there over the past couple days that give you an overall scummy vibe.There was that one long defense post you made against Epi coming at you which was amazing. It was full of facts and sounded very genuine. But you other defenses haven't sounded so convincing. The kills, for instance, is a big one.

But, I'm glad you asked me this. Because if I go off of straight facts, I should vote Epi. My ideas that you could be the last mafia are all about "that sounded scummy" or "I think he is lying there" or "that's not a good enough defense". It's all about my opinion of how you are seeming as a player. Epi has actionable offenses.

vote Epi.
I am surprised to hear that I made posts you thought sounded scummy, or were lies. You didn't bring that up during the game, really, did you? I don't even know which posts you mean, but I have not been posting lies.

Like I said, it's just been the past few days when I've have to examine everyone's words so closely (including you two and falcon), so not all game. And when you asked me my primary reasons for thinking you could be the last mafia, it hit me...if I stop worrying about the things Epi and LC have said that sound this way or that and I just focus on the actions, the facts, then I have to choose Epi.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:37 pm Of all the points I have tried to scrape together to prove my Towniness, I think that this one is the most pertinent and relevant:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:26 pmIf I were bad, I'd just kill Eloh and buddy up to falcon and take you down. Eloh is the most undecided between the two of them, and she'd be GUARANTEED to enter F3 with as fair a mind toward her husband as possible, for obvious reasons. I don't see how or why I would make that kill last night, it just would make the least sense of all.

This makes sense. And as Judge Judy says...if it makes sense, it must be true. (Actually, she says if it doesn't make sens it isn't true, but whatever)

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?

For you it's smaller things throughout the past couple days when I've had to look at everyone with a microscope - comments here and there over the past couple days that give you an overall scummy vibe.There was that one long defense post you made against Epi coming at you which was amazing. It was full of facts and sounded very genuine. But you other defenses haven't sounded so convincing. The kills, for instance, is a big one.

But, I'm glad you asked me this. Because if I go off of straight facts, I should vote Epi. My ideas that you could be the last mafia are all about "that sounded scummy" or "I think he is lying there" or "that's not a good enough defense". It's all about my opinion of how you are seeming as a player. Epi has actionable offenses.

vote Epi.

I shouldn't be this stressed over a game.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.

I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.

okay. I changed my daylight saving time (again). Not sure why it went out of wack. And I see we actually have til 9:40! I thought we had til 7:40. haha

when did you vote sprit @Long Con - first, second, third?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:14 pm I'm going to pull the trigger and just go with my gut. If I'm wrong. I'm sorry. But I sure hope I'm right.

Voting Epi.
If you do get a chance, please refer to this and ask yourself if you believe that all of these things are true:

Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:19 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:26 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:48 am

I do feel the solve is in Epi/LC tho
I'm inclined to agree. Yesterday, after pretty much clearing you I thought...."gosh...It's got to be LC!" But this was not because of anything he did/said, but becasue I have just had Epi pinned as civ all game. And I asked Epi who he thought was the last mafia. It took him a long while to get back to me, but I know he was working so it didn't bother me. And he came in with all these amazing points for LC being mafia. I was like, heck yeah...my POE has to be right! THEN, I read LC's response to Epi and he blows every single point UP! Now I'm thinking...."gosh...it's got to be Epi!" And this whole time I had him as civ in my head.

@Long Con You defended yourself well and I believe you. I think Epi is our last mafia.

Every once in a while I get to play a certain game. It's been a minute since I've had to, so I guess I'm due.

I'll play it a little later on this evening.

Time for another round of "Here is All the Shit you HAVE TO BELIEVE if you Believe Epignosis is Mafia"

You have to simultaneously believe all of these things:

1. I threw sprityo under the bus (and farted in his face) Day 1.

I have always held that bussing is a counterproductive tactic. While it occasionally works, and while I have dipped my toe into those waters from time to time, it's very unwise if you've only got one partner. I do not believe I have ever had the pleasure of being mafia with sprityo, and my Day 1 would not look the same if we were partners. Anyone who has been mafia with me knows I like to keep us all alive as long as possible when feasible. I particularly preach "Survive Day 1."

2. I killed S~V~S Night 1.

Not my thing. I will murder S~V~S, but I get more satisfaction out of fooling her. Night 1 kill? Nah.

3. I killed Roxy Night 2.

I would murder her in a vacuum, but Roxy missed the Day 2 vote. If I'm mafia, I want to keep distracted persons around, especially if I'm by myself.

4. I killed Scotty Night 3.

I would totally murder Scotty Night 3. You get this one for free.

5. Eloh survived back-to-back ties led by me, and I abandoned that to poke Long Con with a fart-smelling stick.

One lynch would seal it for me. Instead of sticking with my pet suspect, I pivot to the person with the second most posts?

No.

More than that, I wanted to use this free Day phase to visit other avenues. I basically got a massive, classic NO U out of LC. I found it ironic that he called me desperate. The good news is that I don't have to process this today. I could be dead by Day 5. LC could be dead Day 5. That is the beauty of Sleep.

6. I was the first person to get everybody to vote Sleep.

Town points.

If you're mafia, you can skip this step. Totally cool.

If you're a civilian and don't change your vote, you just lost.

Okay. Number 1, I don't think your mentions of Sprit could be considered throwing him under the bus. The kills don't seem like and Epi thing, but more an LC thing. The ties...okay, maybe you didn't do that. And you're right about the sleep.

Vote LC

btw, for some reason my timestamps are messed up today. They haven't been like this all game, just today. Like I just posted my vote at 6:16 and my timestamp says 4:14. weird

I'm going to pull the trigger and just go with my gut. If I'm wrong. I'm sorry. But I sure hope I'm right.

Voting Epi.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 12:27 am 29-Apr Chicken Noodle Soup Garden Salad with Grilled Chicken

That was lunch.

How long Eloh would you say it took those chicken breasts to cook?

Was I on my phone at any point cooking that you observed?

(No, because I had a drink in my hand, not a cell phone, like always)

Almost an hour. The breasts are HUGE these days. All those hormones they be givin' those chickens. Grow 'em quick and take them to the slaughter asap.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:59 am Hello rhymes with Eloh.

Hello, Eloh?

Hello LC

We've been at a baseball game all day in the 90 degree sun so my eyes burn and I have a dull headache.

I have to say that I am so stinkin' confused right now as to which one of you are the last mafia. I don't think I have ever been in this position in a mafia game before.

Every reason I find/bring up that makes me think one of you is more likely mafia than the other puts you two into a back and forth that ends up with me being more confused.

I'm here....I'm reading.....I'm thinking.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:46 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:09 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:48 pm I refuse to breathe in the vicinity of sprityo and S~V~S.
Care to share why other than the waving a match around bit? I think SVS is just being genuine. I know another person who would outright refuse to even SAY the would fart and you're related to her.
Looking at Eloh's posts, I notice here that she didn't mention sprityo, and focused on S~V~S being Town.

And this makes ME took at Epi saying he refuses to breath in the vicinity of Sprityo or SVS. I think Epi throws this little comment out there in the beginning of the game just to have something to point back to. "See, I suspected Sprityo in the beginning." And, if the poll results from JJJ's recap post are in order (which I assume they are) Epi was last to vote Sprit. It was 5 votes for Sprit and 3 votes for SVS. Sure, he could have voted SVS to tie it up and had a chance to keep his teammate around, but that was only a 50/50 chance and voting him would have given him some civ points. Enough to make it to the last three alive in the game.

What do you two think about this theory?

To address LC - I said this before in this game....if I don't have a read on someone, I don't talk about them. I wait until I have a read.

Epi kills falcon so he can keep his wife in the game. Or, LC kills falcon so that it looks like Epi killed falcon to keep his wife in the game.

It's one of you two and either one of you wouldn't kill the other bc falcon and I both suspected you two the most.

sigh.....I just cannot decide.

@JaggedJimmyJay - I'm sorry you had that kind of day. It takes so long for the coccyx to heal...I hope it's not too bad for you.

I have a question for LC. If Epi is mafia, why would he be the one to suggest *vote sleep*? I still don't totally understand the vote sleep option, but form what he was saying, it seems like its an in-favor-of-the-civs type of thing at this point. And everyone did it...so I did too.

I know I'm a bit paranoid...so maybe you are too. There's a real fear that whoever I decide I think is mafia turns out civ.

But with everything that's come to light today and all the discussions that we've all had it seems less likely that you are the last mafia.

I can believe that the kills were probably not randomized (however Epi is my lead suspect atm and he is the one that convinced me of this point).

So...there is always some piece of information holding me back from going full-on with a specific player as the last mafia.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:25 am Sonofabitch

Don't leave us hangin.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:48 am

I do feel the solve is in Epi/LC tho

I'm inclined to agree. Yesterday, after pretty much clearing you I thought...."gosh...It's got to be LC!" But this was not because of anything he did/said, but becasue I have just had Epi pinned as civ all game. And I asked Epi who he thought was the last mafia. It took him a long while to get back to me, but I know he was working so it didn't bother me. And he came in with all these amazing points for LC being mafia. I was like, heck yeah...my POE has to be right! THEN, I read LC's response to Epi and he blows every single point UP! Now I'm thinking...."gosh...it's got to be Epi!" And this whole time I had him as civ in my head.

@Long Con You defended yourself well and I believe you. I think Epi is our last mafia.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:53 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:26 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:01 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:50 pm @Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.
The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.
Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

Okay I messed that post up somehow....
I was trying to say,

Okay, so who do you think these kills point to in your opinion?
Would you have made those kills? Why or why not? Who would you have killed? Epi?

I would not have killed Roxy and SVS. I would have killed you and Epi. Maybe SVS after that though...depending on how things went. I explained this in an earlier post. If I were bad, I would be more afraid of you and Epi than anyone else playing.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:27 pm Liam, at this point.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:01 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:50 pm @Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.
The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.
Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

Okay I messed that post up somehow....
I was trying to say,

Okay, so who do you think these kills point to in your opinion?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:01 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:50 pm @Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.
The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.
Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

What JJJ says about kills is interesting. I have thought that the kill picks were odd but didn't mention it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:26 pm With falcon here, the correct answer is now [VOTE: Sleep] aubergine.

Why? And if you aren't the last mafia, who do you think is?

I don't know what to think anymore. After listening to Falcon...I'm leaning Epi. Not because Falcon has swayed me to believe Epi is Mafia, but by process of elimination from my own thoughts of players. Falcon seems genuine. Am I allowed to ask @falcon45ca what kept him from posting for so many days? I don't know what is and what isn't allowed in mafia anymore.

And, Epi posted a meme saying he farted. I can see him doing that as a joke but also to see how much he can get away with as mafia.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:04 pm And if you were Maf, you'd vote Epi along w me & end the game, right?

It's Epi

I guess...yeah, but I'm not mafia. Doesn't mean Epi ISN'T mafia. SO if he IS, I could still vote with you and end the game in my favor as a civ.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:41 pm

Why this, Epi?

Not sure what cross-voting is.

When did you ask to be subbed? And were you told why you haven't been? If so, why?

And, why do you suspect Epi?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:56 am Can we vote Epi plz & nail a W

Why Epi?

@falcon45ca - can you defend yourself...why no replacement when you're not actively posting? Is it because you are staying active by killing? (I hope I can say the word "killing")

*our*

He's even already cast a vote. See...active, but not posting. I'm very convinced he's out man.

Voting Falcon

This is about the time in the game where I start spiraling and suspected even the people I've trusted thus far.

And when I start rereading posts, I go back and forth like crazy and cannot make up my mind on who I think it could be.

....................

Okay, I've taken a few minutes to think. If falcon were good, he should have been replaced by now as per the rules. And, we have several dead civ players that could have taken over his role as a civ. BUT...since he has NOT been replaced with one of our deadies, he must be an active player without posting. Active as in...still killing. All roles are vanilla, the only way he can be active without posting in the thread is if he is the one killing. Am I explaining this well?

I only fart if I eat too much sugar and I've been cutting back for well over a year now. (30 lbs down after a stupid medication made me gain a bunch) So...you won't smell anything coming from me.

k...gotta go watch tv with the fam.

HAHA...towny

I mean...just his last post...case on LC is he's too funny? C'mon

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