Who farted??? [Day 5]

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WHO FARTED?

Poll ended at Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:40 pm

Elohcin
0
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Epignosis
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40%
Long Con
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20%
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And it's funny that you still want to put so much weight on the nightkill choices, because when you wanted to play your "game" where we all say how Towny we are, I named what *my* nightkill choices were:
Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:44 pmI would never have killed any of those nightkills. I would have taken out Epignosis first, probably Mac next, and maybe hit S~V~S on Day 3 depending.
.. I deliberately just made those up, I don't know who I would have killed. But I find it pretty pertinent that, despite you wanting to make this a big 'proof', you didn't even question me on them. You didn't even address it. And that's because, to you, it IS about faking what you "would have done", and so it didn't occur to you to question whether or not I was doing that.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:14 pm I'm going to pull the trigger and just go with my gut. If I'm wrong. I'm sorry. But I sure hope I'm right.

Voting Epi.
If you do get a chance, please refer to this and ask yourself if you believe that all of these things are true:
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Epignosis wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:19 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:26 am
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:48 am

I do feel the solve is in Epi/LC tho
I'm inclined to agree. Yesterday, after pretty much clearing you I thought...."gosh...It's got to be LC!" But this was not because of anything he did/said, but becasue I have just had Epi pinned as civ all game. And I asked Epi who he thought was the last mafia. It took him a long while to get back to me, but I know he was working so it didn't bother me. And he came in with all these amazing points for LC being mafia. I was like, heck yeah...my POE has to be right! THEN, I read LC's response to Epi and he blows every single point UP! Now I'm thinking...."gosh...it's got to be Epi!" And this whole time I had him as civ in my head.

@Long Con You defended yourself well and I believe you. I think Epi is our last mafia.
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Time for another round of "Here is All the Shit you HAVE TO BELIEVE if you Believe Epignosis is Mafia"

You have to simultaneously believe all of these things:

1. I threw sprityo under the bus (and farted in his face) Day 1.

I have always held that bussing is a counterproductive tactic. While it occasionally works, and while I have dipped my toe into those waters from time to time, it's very unwise if you've only got one partner. I do not believe I have ever had the pleasure of being mafia with sprityo, and my Day 1 would not look the same if we were partners. Anyone who has been mafia with me knows I like to keep us all alive as long as possible when feasible. I particularly preach "Survive Day 1."

2. I killed S~V~S Night 1.

Not my thing. I will murder S~V~S, but I get more satisfaction out of fooling her. Night 1 kill? Nah.

3. I killed Roxy Night 2.

I would murder her in a vacuum, but Roxy missed the Day 2 vote. If I'm mafia, I want to keep distracted persons around, especially if I'm by myself.

4. I killed Scotty Night 3.

I would totally murder Scotty Night 3. You get this one for free. :grin:

5. Eloh survived back-to-back ties led by me, and I abandoned that to poke Long Con with a fart-smelling stick.

One lynch would seal it for me. Instead of sticking with my pet suspect, I pivot to the person with the second most posts?

No.

More than that, I wanted to use this free Day phase to visit other avenues. I basically got a massive, classic NO U out of LC. I found it ironic that he called me desperate. The good news is that I don't have to process this today. I could be dead by Day 5. LC could be dead Day 5. That is the beauty of Sleep.

6. I was the first person to get everybody to vote Sleep.

Town points. :noble: :noble: :noble:
If you're mafia, you can skip this step. Totally cool.

If you're a civilian and don't change your vote, you just lost.
Okay. Number 1, I don't think your mentions of Sprit could be considered throwing him under the bus. The kills don't seem like and Epi thing, but more an LC thing. The ties...okay, maybe you didn't do that. And you're right about the sleep.

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The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.

Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.
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There's no reason to think Epi wouldn't have made those kills. Roxy was probably the most townread player in the game, but of course he wouldn't have killed her because she'll probably flake and miss votes?? Roxy has been consistently showing up and playing games very regularly recently, and even when she got upset or offended by something another player said, she always made sure to show up and vote. Epi KNOWS this, he was in most of the games she has played.
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My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
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Re: Who farted??? [Day 5]

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when did you vote sprit @Long Con - first, second, third?
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okay. I changed my daylight saving time (again). Not sure why it went out of wack. And I see we actually have til 9:40! I thought we had til 7:40. haha
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:26 pm when did you vote sprit @Long Con - first, second, third?
Second. It was 1 vote sprityo, 2 votes S~V~S at the time.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:27 pm okay. I changed my daylight saving time (again). Not sure why it went out of wack. And I see we actually have til 9:40! I thought we had til 7:40. haha
Jesus Christ you were going to make that your final vote.

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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?
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I shouldn't be this stressed over a game.
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm I shouldn't be this stressed over a game.
:haha: Well, you're preaching to the choir here, I always get antsy, especially in Final 3. You should see the games with Princess Abigail and I in Final 3. I lost my cool.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.
So why didn't you?
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
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25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
2
22%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con

Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.
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Of all the points I have tried to scrape together to prove my Towniness, I think that this one is the most pertinent and relevant:
Long Con wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:26 pmIf I were bad, I'd just kill Eloh and buddy up to falcon and take you down. Eloh is the most undecided between the two of them, and she'd be GUARANTEED to enter F3 with as fair a mind toward her husband as possible, for obvious reasons. I don't see how or why I would make that kill last night, it just would make the least sense of all.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:36 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.
So why didn't you?
Because you made sure you were first by bringing it up like half a week early.
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
3
25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
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25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
2
22%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con

Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.
Yes, and in that time after Day 3, suspicion of Eloh generally waned. Like I said.
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Re: Who farted??? [Day 5]

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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?
For you it's smaller things throughout the past couple days when I've had to look at everyone with a microscope - comments here and there over the past couple days that give you an overall scummy vibe.There was that one long defense post you made against Epi coming at you which was amazing. It was full of facts and sounded very genuine. But you other defenses haven't sounded so convincing. The kills, for instance, is a big one.

But, I'm glad you asked me this. Because if I go off of straight facts, I should vote Epi. My ideas that you could be the last mafia are all about "that sounded scummy" or "I think he is lying there" or "that's not a good enough defense". It's all about my opinion of how you are seeming as a player. Epi has actionable offenses.

vote Epi.
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Re: Who farted??? [Day 5]

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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:36 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.
So why didn't you?
Because you made sure you were first by bringing it up like half a week early.
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
3
25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
2
22%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con

Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.
Yes, and in that time after Day 3, suspicion of Eloh generally waned. Like I said.
Tied up Day 2. Tied up Day 3. Day 4 Sleep (nobody received any votes). We are now in Day 5.

At what point in that chronology did this happen, and how did that result in me changing my initial belief that Eloh was bad to YOU being bad?

Demonstrate this with actual posts, please.
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm Epi has actionable offenses.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:37 pm Of all the points I have tried to scrape together to prove my Towniness, I think that this one is the most pertinent and relevant:
Long Con wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:26 pmIf I were bad, I'd just kill Eloh and buddy up to falcon and take you down. Eloh is the most undecided between the two of them, and she'd be GUARANTEED to enter F3 with as fair a mind toward her husband as possible, for obvious reasons. I don't see how or why I would make that kill last night, it just would make the least sense of all.
This makes sense. And as Judge Judy says...if it makes sense, it must be true. (Actually, she says if it doesn't make sens it isn't true, but whatever)
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LC has made up at least two things that are demonstrably false:

1. That was sitting here at my computer observing, waiting for the right moment to jump on sprityo. I was cooking and working. I demonstrated this.
2. That I gave up my suspicion of you because other people stopped suspecting you. Didn't happen. I demonstrated this.
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:49 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:37 pm Of all the points I have tried to scrape together to prove my Towniness, I think that this one is the most pertinent and relevant:
Long Con wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:26 pmIf I were bad, I'd just kill Eloh and buddy up to falcon and take you down. Eloh is the most undecided between the two of them, and she'd be GUARANTEED to enter F3 with as fair a mind toward her husband as possible, for obvious reasons. I don't see how or why I would make that kill last night, it just would make the least sense of all.
This makes sense. And as Judge Judy says...if it makes sense, it must be true. (Actually, she says if it doesn't make sens it isn't true, but whatever)
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:50 pm LC has made up at least two things that are demonstrably false:

1. That was sitting here at my computer observing, waiting for the right moment to jump on sprityo. I was cooking and working. I demonstrated this.
2. That I gave up my suspicion of you because other people stopped suspecting you. Didn't happen. I demonstrated this.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:50 pm LC has made up at least two things that are demonstrably false:

1. That was sitting here at my computer observing, waiting for the right moment to jump on sprityo. I was cooking and working. I demonstrated this.
2. That I gave up my suspicion of you because other people stopped suspecting you. Didn't happen. I demonstrated this.
1. I literally said that the timing shows you did exactly that, and if it wasn't, then the timing was uncanny. You voted sprityo within a minute of Roxy casting the third vote. I can't lie about whether or not you are sitting at your computer. I obviously don't know where you are at at any given time, dude.

2. I haven't even responded to that yet.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:46 pm
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:36 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.
So why didn't you?
Because you made sure you were first by bringing it up like half a week early.
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
3
25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
2
22%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con

Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.
Yes, and in that time after Day 3, suspicion of Eloh generally waned. Like I said.
Tied up Day 2. Tied up Day 3. Day 4 Sleep (nobody received any votes). We are now in Day 5.

At what point in that chronology did this happen, and how did that result in me changing my initial belief that Eloh was bad to YOU being bad?

Demonstrate this with actual posts, please.
I wasn't going of specific posts, I was going off memory. At the start of Day 4, there was falcon, me, you, Eloh. I remember the three of us talking back and forth, and from what I recall, falcon did not suspect Eloh. I did not suspect Eloh. Eloh did not suspect Eloh.

You could not come in with a slam dunk on Eloh in that environment, so you pivoted to aim for THIS Final 3, for obvious reasons.
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?
For you it's smaller things throughout the past couple days when I've had to look at everyone with a microscope - comments here and there over the past couple days that give you an overall scummy vibe.There was that one long defense post you made against Epi coming at you which was amazing. It was full of facts and sounded very genuine. But you other defenses haven't sounded so convincing. The kills, for instance, is a big one.

But, I'm glad you asked me this. Because if I go off of straight facts, I should vote Epi. My ideas that you could be the last mafia are all about "that sounded scummy" or "I think he is lying there" or "that's not a good enough defense". It's all about my opinion of how you are seeming as a player. Epi has actionable offenses.

vote Epi.
I am surprised to hear that I made posts you thought sounded scummy, or were lies. You didn't bring that up during the game, really, did you? I don't even know which posts you mean, but I have not been posting lies.
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Re: Who farted??? [Day 5]

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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:46 pm
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:36 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm The sleep thing is a standard tactic in that situation. Someone would have brought it up if he didn't.
So why didn't you?
Because you made sure you were first by bringing it up like half a week early.
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:12 pm Epi stopped voting Eloh because no one else believed she was bad.

How is this remotely true?

She got tied. Twice in the last two relevant Days.

Day 2:

Dragon D. Luffy
3
25%
Voters: Elohcin, Epignosis, MacDougall

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Long Con

Day 3:

Elohcin
2
22%
Voters: Scotty, Epignosis

MacDougall
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Day 4:

Sleep.

You are just making shit up.
Yes, and in that time after Day 3, suspicion of Eloh generally waned. Like I said.
Tied up Day 2. Tied up Day 3. Day 4 Sleep (nobody received any votes). We are now in Day 5.

At what point in that chronology did this happen, and how did that result in me changing my initial belief that Eloh was bad to YOU being bad?

Demonstrate this with actual posts, please.
I wasn't going of specific posts, I was going off memory. At the start of Day 4, there was falcon, me, you, Eloh. I remember the three of us talking back and forth, and from what I recall, falcon did not suspect Eloh. I did not suspect Eloh. Eloh did not suspect Eloh.

You could not come in with a slam dunk on Eloh in that environment, so you pivoted to aim for THIS Final 3, for obvious reasons.
So let me get this straight.

Your accusation against me is that I stopped suspecting Eloh because nobody else was following along...

...but the reason nobody else was following along was because they are dead...

...because I killed them.

And THEN I started suspecting you in an environment in which...

...nobody was suspecting you.

How does this shit even make any sense?
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Re: Who farted??? [Day 5]

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@Elohcin ^
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:58 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?
For you it's smaller things throughout the past couple days when I've had to look at everyone with a microscope - comments here and there over the past couple days that give you an overall scummy vibe.There was that one long defense post you made against Epi coming at you which was amazing. It was full of facts and sounded very genuine. But you other defenses haven't sounded so convincing. The kills, for instance, is a big one.

But, I'm glad you asked me this. Because if I go off of straight facts, I should vote Epi. My ideas that you could be the last mafia are all about "that sounded scummy" or "I think he is lying there" or "that's not a good enough defense". It's all about my opinion of how you are seeming as a player. Epi has actionable offenses.

vote Epi.
I am surprised to hear that I made posts you thought sounded scummy, or were lies. You didn't bring that up during the game, really, did you? I don't even know which posts you mean, but I have not been posting lies.
Like I said, it's just been the past few days when I've have to examine everyone's words so closely (including you two and falcon), so not all game. And when you asked me my primary reasons for thinking you could be the last mafia, it hit me...if I stop worrying about the things Epi and LC have said that sound this way or that and I just focus on the actions, the facts, then I have to choose Epi.
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Epi, you haven't even tried to analyze Eloh at all today. You have an agenda, not a desire for truth.
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:10 pm Epi, you haven't even tried to analyze Eloh at all today. You have an agenda, not a desire for truth.
I did that last phase. I changed my mind about her and changed my mind about you.
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:06 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:58 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:23 pm My vote for sprityo on Day 1 put him in contention and started the train that got him yeeted. I not only made that vote, I also engaged Mac about sprityo being bad.

Epignosis said sprityo is bad because he defended Scotty and so Scotty's bad and sprityo and Scotty are bad together. Then he waited until votes started accumulating and rushed in to join the train.
I know all of this and it is my primary reason for thinking Epi could be the last mafia.
What's your primary reason for thinking I am the last mafia?
For you it's smaller things throughout the past couple days when I've had to look at everyone with a microscope - comments here and there over the past couple days that give you an overall scummy vibe.There was that one long defense post you made against Epi coming at you which was amazing. It was full of facts and sounded very genuine. But you other defenses haven't sounded so convincing. The kills, for instance, is a big one.

But, I'm glad you asked me this. Because if I go off of straight facts, I should vote Epi. My ideas that you could be the last mafia are all about "that sounded scummy" or "I think he is lying there" or "that's not a good enough defense". It's all about my opinion of how you are seeming as a player. Epi has actionable offenses.

vote Epi.
I am surprised to hear that I made posts you thought sounded scummy, or were lies. You didn't bring that up during the game, really, did you? I don't even know which posts you mean, but I have not been posting lies.
Like I said, it's just been the past few days when I've have to examine everyone's words so closely (including you two and falcon), so not all game. And when you asked me my primary reasons for thinking you could be the last mafia, it hit me...if I stop worrying about the things Epi and LC have said that sound this way or that and I just focus on the actions, the facts, then I have to choose Epi.
Do I get to know what these actions and facts are?
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Here's the thing about the Grilled Chicken Defense.

So Epi was grilling chicken right up to the point that he made a post voting sprityo. He wasn't following the thread at all, if the thread had been dead since he left, he would have popped in and cast a textless vote and left. It is only a coincidence that Roxy had voted less than a minute earlier; Epignosis had no idea that had just happened.

OR, Epi grilled chicken, finished, came back to the thread, and was reading for... maybe ten minutes? I don't know. Mulling over a little whether sprityo was a lost cause. Then Roxy voted and he was like "oh damn, better pull the trigger fast!"

Which one sounds real?
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We've been talking about them. I will have to go get the posts...
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OR Epi caught mafia Day 1.
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Another question for LC:

Why have you withheld your theory about me throwing sprityo under the bus, waiting to see when I should "OH DAMN BETTER JUMP ON" until endgame?
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I mean, 11 days ago...
Long Con wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:50 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine
Epignosis voted right after Roxy. As far as I can tell, Roxy's sprit vote tied it 3-3 after Radishes voted S~V~S. I don't know if this looks good on Epi or if he saw the writing on the wall and grabbed what bus cred he could. He's not one to usually bus, but I have seen him do it in the right situation.
... also I have done a lot of rereading and had different ideas about what players have done, with the obvious benefit of hindsight informing me. I don't have all my ideas all at once at the start of the game and then choose when to release them.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:58 pm Another question for LC:

Why have you withheld your theory about me throwing sprityo under the bus, waiting to see when I should "OH DAMN BETTER JUMP ON" until endgame?
I'm almost sure we've been talking about this for a while event when falcon was still alive. And I mentioned the way you threw sprits name out there and said you wouldn't sniff in his or SVS direction, something like that. Also, I talked about you bringing up the sleeping votes.

I have a question for you. If LC is bad, why would he kill falcon over me?
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I don;t know why I responded to that quote instead of you asking me about the facts.
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I'm super tired from being in the sun all day.
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Listen, if I'm wrong...I'm sorry.
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:09 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:58 pm Another question for LC:

Why have you withheld your theory about me throwing sprityo under the bus, waiting to see when I should "OH DAMN BETTER JUMP ON" until endgame?
I'm almost sure we've been talking about this for a while event when falcon was still alive. And I mentioned the way you threw sprits name out there and said you wouldn't sniff in his or SVS direction, something like that. Also, I talked about you bringing up the sleeping votes.

I have a question for you. If LC is bad, why would he kill falcon over me?
I think you misunderstood me. I wouldn't sniff in their directions means that I suspected them (of farting). I was anti-sprityo from the beginning.

If I catch mafia Day 1, the most logical (+EV) course of action is to believe I am a civilian, as I have thrown teammates under the bus maybe 4-5 times in 13+ years of playing mafia.

I don't know why LC would kill falcon. No offense to falcon, but I think that's the worst option to kill. He said he could go any which way (and absent is one of those).

My final argument is to remind you that I am the one who posted about and interacted with sprityo the most. I did the legwork. LC did nothing but cast a vote. I don't treat my teammates like that, especially if I only have one, and especially not if it's Day 1 and I have to spend the rest of the game alone carrying it myself.

Not my style. Not fun. A headache. That's LC territory.
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Look, I hate last man standing roles.

Least favorite.

By killing my only partner Day 1, that's what I've turned myself into.

Last man standing.

Fuck that. Especially with my schedule.
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Except your "anti-sprityo" stance is way overblown, we've discussed this.

You treat "Scotty and sprityo are mafia!" as though you were pushing hard on sprityo, but when you go back and read the context, you're just responding to sprityo defending Scotty and it's more silly than impactful.

I'm not twisting this, just... go and read it in context. It's only a couple of posts to read, you weren't pushing hard on sprityo at all.
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:28 pm Look, I hate last man standing roles.

Least favorite.

By killing my only partner Day 1, that's what I've turned myself into.

Last man standing.

Fuck that. Especially with my schedule.
I have no doubt that you would rather have had sprityo live, and that's why you didn't vote until it looked like it was about to become inevitable.
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I know you meant to mention Sprit as farted Day 1. I said it seems like that was done in passing so you could say that very thing at end game as you just did. And you were smart to throw it in with another name (SVS).

but then you go and say things like...if you vote me you wont win and I hate last man standing so I wouldnt vote a partner like that.

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i feel like you've not read any of my posts about you with the things youve said this last hour
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Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:28 pm Look, I hate last man standing roles.

Least favorite.

By killing my only partner Day 1, that's what I've turned myself into.

Last man standing.

Fuck that. Especially with my schedule.
I have no doubt that you would rather have had sprityo live, and that's why you didn't vote until it looked like it was about to become inevitable.
I don't do that either. It's silly.

Good win LC. You need to go into politics. You can take the biggest heap of horse shit and make it look like mashed potatoes and gravy from heaven. I don't know how you do it.

Mmm... might have to put mashed potatoes and gravy from heaven on the list for next week...
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Elohcin wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:35 pm I know you meant to mention Sprit as farted Day 1. I said it seems like that was done in passing so you could say that very thing at end game as you just did. And you were smart to throw it in with another name (SVS).

but then you go and say things like...if you vote me you wont win and I hate last man standing so I wouldnt vote a partner like that.

But you had no choice but to vote him or tie it up.
I had no choice but to vote him or tie it up?

If I'm sprityo's partner in that scenario I stay out. I don't need to vote for him. I stay out and gun for Scotty or S~V~S the next Day.
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This is where Elohcin rips the hugest fart of all time and cackles wickedly as we shrivel away... :haha:
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