The Syndicate

Bac Wunderelin wrote:lol

Fane Winebattle wrote:Also, I voted story because you can have a great story without great characters (especially a short one) but it is hard to have great characters without anything interesting for them to do.

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Finnian Metalfox wrote:Okay, since I'm pretty much done for, I'm voting Etain because she doesn't like me.

Well I like you a little more than I did before cuz you made me laugh!

What makes ya think I'm a girl?

Finnian Metalfox wrote:Okay, since I'm pretty much done for, I'm voting Etain because she doesn't like me.

Bac Wunderelin wrote:I think Finian is bad, so I am gonna vote for him now. I have a busy day tomorrow

Finnian Metalfox wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Finnian Metalfox wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:I am leaning Finnain for today.

Sorryimnot going to be here much this day. I had a huge party here today and have family over for the weekend.

That being said I think it would be foolish to miss the opportunity to lynch Finnian in a rumple free day.

You seem a lot more sure since I started suspecting you.

Yea, I guess so. A good no u will do that I guess...

I didn't know that in this game you were literally not allowed to suspect people who suspect you. I mean if I just said I suspect you because you suspect me that would make sense. But I gave my reasoning. You just seem to want me out of here really bad (you agree 1000% people are trying to distract from me, it would be foolish not to lynch me, etc.) and it mostly stemmed from me saying if Carmen is bad I think you could be too. You were relatively easy on me beforehand.

Finnian Metalfox wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:I am leaning Finnain for today.

Sorryimnot going to be here much this day. I had a huge party here today and have family over for the weekend.

That being said I think it would be foolish to miss the opportunity to lynch Finnian in a rumple free day.

You seem a lot more sure since I started suspecting you.

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:I am leaning Finnain for today.

Carmen Brightsun wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:Allah has spoken!

In my vision, I watched. And behold! A trollish little man who, legend has it, could spin straw into gold, was approaching a trio of ruffians. He spoke with them, and even though I hid behind a sycamore tree, I heard his speech plainly: The enchanting word for Day 2 was "Castle."

Yes, I too got this information. Hopefully this will help us understand a little of what is going on in Rumple's head.

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:Wow, 2-2-2 so far! Avoiding that spread is going....poorly. I have to choose now and then sleep. I will go Finnian for reasons previously stated. I still feel worst about him. And I'm not sure about the "subtle push" being discussed, but I think the possibility is there. Linki #2: wait, is the "subtle push" away from Carmen or Finnian?

Linki #1: Miyuki, can you explain why the scenario you put forth is the only way a nogoodnik would dare hint at a civvie role? And the hint you seem to have picked up is a different role than the one I had been reading. Since when are role hints ok, anyway? Every other game I've played, hints have made people want to lynch the person more, not less.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that Bac's thoughts on Ameerah are right, as well. Occam's Razor says silencing and then killing him to stop him talking about her is a solid plan. But given the current spread I think that's a debate for tomorrow.

Linki #3: Wow Queran, prolific today!

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Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Except you think the push was to protect Finnian, and Deidre thinks Carmen is a better bet?

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Queran Gloomsoul wrote:So on one end we have Etain saying:

"The possibility of a Carmen role hint pushed Carmen out of the spotlight and Finnian became her de facto replacement. Shortly after THAT, the push for low posters begain, possibly as a scramble to protect Finian from this impossible to foresee shift in the paradigm."

And on the other we have Deidre, one of the folks being tossed about as possibly suspicious (according to Etain in part to rescue Finian) saying:

"The new crop of suspects is just a distraction from the old crop of suspects." which of course he would say, being one of the new crop of suspects :P


Do I have the gist?

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Dierdre Wonderbird wrote:I think there is a lot of distraction going on.

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Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:I must say, your vote surprises me, oh thrice-eyed felis domesticus.

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Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Why Etain, Metalfox? I myself have that small "link-theory" about Mainchin and Carmen, but I'm not sure how Etain and Carmen connect?

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Finnian Metalfox wrote:

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:

Finnian Metalfox wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:What's funny to me is there was a sort of rush to push the thread away from Finnian who was the second lynch candidate for a while now. Low posters get mentioned and then all of a sudden bam a *low poster* gets a vote.

I think I shall vote Finnian.

Uggggggggggh.

Or maybe me at least making some forms of attempts are assuaging the suspicions of some? Is there really no excuse for anyone to drop their suspicion ever? Since there was talk of easy targets earlier, don't I sort of make one? You are the second person so far to drop previous things to come after me. If I get lynched, when I come up civ I think people doing this should really be looked at. I mean the "easy target" I picked I have basically no chance of voting for as I was making note of them, and not really suspecting them.

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I asked you earlier and I'll ask you again....who do you want deaded?

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For now I would say Carmen although I am not totally sure. Me being gone for the majority of the game has left me in a very confused position. Right now I'm at a point of making observations but most of it depends on someone getting lynched and flipping to be a certain role. If, however, Carmen does get lynched and flips bad, I think Etain is bad. Just the way I read it.

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Well as the game presses on I think each lynch is getting more and more informative, even though the results are poo. Observing how the votes come in and the discussion and theories about players is at least somewhat illuminating
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That's honestly something I haven't reviewed much yet. Perhaps I should. :P

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Bac Wunderelin wrote:I do not, I think mentioning a Glass Slipper when it was a poll choice in a game about Fairy Tales is a not all that astonishing happenstance, tbh. It is possible, but I do not believe it is conclusive either way.

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Carmen Brightsun wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:The imps that bedevil the magic by which I can communicate my thoughts here was preventing me from doing so for a while.

Fortunately, all I needed was a boot to solve the problem.

Carmen Brightsun wrote:When I was a kid and in school, soccer was my favorite sport for P.E. I loved playing defense/goalie. I liked to take a back seat and watch offense go at it and then save my team from getting scored upon when the ball came my way. I think I play Mafia the same way. Just because I am not out there on the offense and making cases against this person or that person doesn't mean I should be automatically looked at as bad. (Funny, though, I have taken the offense in Mafia before as well, and was still a quick suspect.)

I have been crazy busy this week and I should be working right now, but I am choosing Mafia . I think the best case we have is against Finnian. All of the suspicions you have about me are just suspicions. Why did I survive the lynch? Who knows. As some of you have mentioned, there are several possibilities. There is no real evidence showing that I am bad. Now, what we have on Finnian, that is evidence. He failed to vote (meaning he would lose his night ability) then we have no night kills. I definitely believe he should be on the chopping block today.

linki with Mainchin - What if Rumple saved me from the lynch to throw everyone off, confuse you all, make you think I am mafia so you will lynch me and not one of his own.

linki with Etain - Yes. If you were Rumple and had enough votes to manipulate any way you'd like, why not do so. Who cares who you are saving one civvie and getting rid of another. You would do it just to mess with people's heads. I think I would.

I never got to play soccer...no legs.

I do not believe the suspicion in your direction has much to do with you being busy (someone may correct me if I am wrong). If I understand correctly, it hinges on two things:

1. The Jorhan lynch
2. The you lynch (that didn't happen)

Regarding #1, I already explained why I don't put any stock in that here: viewtopic.php?p=20119#p20119

#2 is what makes me uneasy about you.

In time I shall imbibe the water of life and engage in the Ritual of Cogitation.

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I was also thinking about this...Rumple would look at saving me and lynching another civvie as a great opportunity because I am already under suspicion. In doing this, he buys his team more time. For example: Rumple switches the lynch from Carmen to Bac. Bac is lynched and is found civ. Now players turn back to Carmen whom Rumple knows to be civvie instead of possibly going after one of his own teamates. Like I said, buys the mafia another day/night.

Carmen Brightsun wrote:When I was a kid and in school, soccer was my favorite sport for P.E. I loved playing defense/goalie. I liked to take a back seat and watch offense go at it and then save my team from getting scored upon when the ball came my way. I think I play Mafia the same way. Just because I am not out there on the offense and making cases against this person or that person doesn't mean I should be automatically looked at as bad. (Funny, though, I have taken the offense in Mafia before as well, and was still a quick suspect.)

I have been crazy busy this week and I should be working right now, but I am choosing Mafia . I think the best case we have is against Finnian. All of the suspicions you have about me are just suspicions. Why did I survive the lynch? Who knows. As some of you have mentioned, there are several possibilities. There is no real evidence showing that I am bad. Now, what we have on Finnian, that is evidence. He failed to vote (meaning he would lose his night ability) then we have no night kills. I definitely believe he should be on the chopping block today.

linki with Mainchin - What if Rumple saved me from the lynch to throw everyone off, confuse you all, make you think I am mafia so you will lynch me and not one of his own.

linki with Etain - Yes. If you were Rumple and had enough votes to manipulate any way you'd like, why not do so. Who cares who you are saving one civvie and getting rid of another. You would do it just to mess with people's heads. I think I would.

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:Hard to believe the mafia would waste a lynch switch just to frame Carmen. What purpose does it serve? She was going to be lynched anyway and if CIv why would they care?

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Wait, now I'm a tad more confused than before. Can't the Rumple team easily switch lynches if they are close?

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Yes but why wouyld they if Carmen is civ?

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To frame someone, presumably. But I'm not even sure I buy that, my point was, if they could do it easily and they have a chance to do it daily based on a new word or whathaveyou why not do it? why is it a "waste?" I think I need to look at the roles better.

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True, it isn't. I hadn't thought of that. Thank you.

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Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:Thank you Euro, for looking back at Carmen's posts. Bluntly, I thought I might be seeing a spot of rolehinting involved in her night poll vote posts. But even if so, it may not be true, or coincidence.

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Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:Hard to believe the mafia would waste a lynch switch just to frame Carmen. What purpose does it serve? She was going to be lynched anyway and if CIv why would they care?

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Wait, now I'm a tad more confused than before. Can't the Rumple team easily switch lynches if they are close?

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Yes but why wouyld they if Carmen is civ?

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Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:Hard to believe the mafia would waste a lynch switch just to frame Carmen. What purpose does it serve? She was going to be lynched anyway and if CIv why would they care?

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Eurolyvn Blissfulone wrote:

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:

Eurolyvn Blissfulone wrote:

Shand Azureye wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:Disinterested friends do not elect to vote in Night polls and ignore Day poll.

That is a good point. I wonder though, why a baddie would intentionally forfeit whatever moony period power he might have.

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This is what I am thinking too. What benefit is it for a Baddie to intentionally skip all the lynch polls an give up their night power?

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I agree with Shand on this also. If we are going to look at players who are missing alot of the game, we would have to include Grutfud and Lyle, and I'm not sure who else. Although, a player who did have a nightkill and lost it due to not voting, might try to appear absent for a few days, and then reappear with an excuse of having had some sort of problem to deal with. Especially since someone, Rhinfrew, I think, pointed out the idea of the no vote/no nightpower. Does this sound logical?

I'm hoping a few people will reread some of Carmen's posts made during the evenings, and discuss whether they redeem her or not.

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I just read back over them and it does nothing to redeem her if you ask me. She claims to have no idea why she survived. This is pretty surprising, because I think the civ reasons for living would mean she knows about it. And coming in to say, don't have time to respond, just trust me for now, doesnot help her case. It looks as though Rumple switched the lynch. I suppose there is the possibility that they framed her, and even that Bac was a teammate who had won a lynch protect so they were getting him street cred. I doubt this very much though because Carmen already looked suspect for various reasons and I have never felt suspicious of Bac. In fact I feel fairly comfortable with Bac.

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Etain Royalskull wrote:

Carmen Brightsun wrote:Yay, no night kill.

So from the other posters eval, I did nt look myself admittedly, it seems there's no civ why for you to have survived. And you seem to not know either so that rules out secrets.

So any thoughts on your survival?

Carmen Brightsun wrote:Yay, no night kill.

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:I just realised the poll was ending in one minute so voted Etain in a panic. Sorry, it was your low posting and no voting.

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:I was sleeping so magnificently until that insolent cat rubbed against my lamp!

Oh, not you Etain, the thrice-eyed!

I see there is much interpretation to be done, and much that requires my wisdom. Give me time.

Insha'Allah, a foe will fall this Day.

*meow meow meow*

You really haven't said hardly anything at all so far in this game and as far as I can tell you haven't voted in a lynch yet. Anything to add to the game in the way of thoughts?

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:I was sleeping so magnificently until that insolent cat rubbed against my lamp!

Oh, not you Etain, the thrice-eyed!

I see there is much interpretation to be done, and much that requires my wisdom. Give me time.

Insha'Allah, a foe will fall this Day.