The Syndicate

boo wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Jesus, that's a surprise.

You're welcome.

Thanks for the help.

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:

Epignosis 2 wrote:

Ricochet 2 wrote:Well, ok. Good luck. It's not my fault if you lose. You should have lynched epi first, then you would know.

Well first off I won't be backpedaling I didn't like the argument you presented, I didn't like how you tried to play on my emotions saying he would vote for me so I'm voting for him. I stand by my vote and don't regret it.

Also lets say for one second I'm on this other team why would I vote with the suspected mafia when I wasn't on the radar? I could have followed your reasoning and just said "yeah I will vote for Rico since he wants me lynched" but I didn't preserving Rico would have done nothing for me. I would have had to kill him anyway and he could have killed me it makes no sense. If your so set on trusting Cobalt 2 then look at Dom/Cookie I think if anyone Cookie is most likely to be the last ninja, she completely avoided today's drama by self voting.

So, you say you aren't going to backpedal, and then proceed to backpedal, when you say you think cookie is the most likely to be the last ninja. Which means you're either going to vote for cobalt or I even though you don't find us to be the most suspicious, or you're going to vote cookie, because you're backpedaling.

Cobalt 2 wrote:

Ricochet 2 wrote:Unfortunately, I feel you also probably won an extra vote in the trivia, because I know I once again just missed out on winning it, so I'm certain that I'm going to lose the flip unless Dom comes in and votes with us. I think you guys could see a way to win this game right now and took it. Well done, well played. But I'll do everything I possibly can to stop it.

Ricochet 2 wrote:What does turned around on you even mean, and how is it relevant?

I know who Dom is, and see no reason they should not vote, but I'm sure you do hope I lose the tie, because I think if I lose this tie you and Ninja and probably lacey have this game won, and you know what my power is and know that I am the one power you don't want in this game to stop you right now.

Ricochet 2 wrote:Bass checked you on NIGHT ONE OR TWO, not night three. MM was checked on night three. That's just an outright lie. I did this analysis days ago. Don't try and spin it now.

That means there was, depending on timing, every single night is on the table for you to have been recruited.

Bass 2 wrote:For what it's worth, I thought on Cobalt more after I voted him and decided that his tone wasn't "hiding" per se.

While this doesn't clear Synonym 2, as people have brought up the possibility of multiple baddie teams, it makes it pretty unlikely IMO that they were on the same team. Willingly turning Day 3 into a Syn 2 VS Long Con 2 debate would be a lose-lose for them.

Lacey 2 answer me, am I your friend? I like friends.

Ricochet 2 wrote:You and Dom go without saying. I completely trust you because there is no chance Dom was recruited and as for you it's only very slim, I already did the analysis ages ago. I only mentioned cobalt out of the three people I'm thinking of for a lynch, because cobalt can only be a recruit not an original baddie.

Ricochet 2 wrote:Damnit, I was expecting Cobalt and one more vote to come my way, but I wasn't expecting it to be lacey.

Ricochet 2 wrote:For one thing, I don't think you would have voted for me if you were.

Ricochet 2 wrote:Damnit, I was expecting Cobalt and one more vote to come my way, but I wasn't expecting it to be lacey.

I wish cookie's vote was still out there.

Everyone, I'm almost certain there is a team of two left. I don't know whether it is the baddies or the recruits, but if they lynch me now and get one more kill, its over.

The fact lacey and cobalt are going after me right now makes me think it may be them, and that its the recruits. Or else that lacey is just wrong and cobalt has taken advantage.

Please Dom, Epi... trust me and take out Cobalt. Even if you are bad, I don't think you are going to win unless you do this. It's mutual interest time. If I'm wrong and Cobalt is not bad, lynch me tomorrow.

Cookie 2 wrote:

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:

Cookie 2 wrote:

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:I think you're a more likely recruit than Cobalt 2, Rico 2.

I know it isn't me.

I had been most suspicious of Cobalt 2 being the recruit, but that has stopped being the case based on llama 2 being civilian.

The timing of her death would suggest it isn't Dom 2 from Bass 2's possible vouch, but based on that last post, if it isn't just a post for the sake of it and does contain information; which the first page says won't be the case, so @Hostesses, can you confirm anything in that regard for us?; then it would suggest that there's at least one surviving Elohcin 2 recruit, and they inherited the ability to recruit, which means Dom 2 could also have been recruited. I probably wouldn't go with him first, because from a numbers game it doesn't make a lot of sense to do it that way, but it is a concern now.

Since I think Cookie 2 is the last baddie, that leaves you and Epignosis 2 as the top contenders for who I suspect most as the recruit. I lean a little towards suspecting you, but that's mostly because, if it turns out one of you isn't a recruit, but is actually a baddie, I think it's more likely to be you.

All that being said, I think our best bet is to lynch Cookie 2 today. We still don't actually know the recruits win condition, and taking out a baddie that's listed as a baddie seems like the better goal with this lynch.

Right, all the baddie super geniuses kill the person they have been suspecting for days. Give me a break. I trusted you out of the gate based on my thoughts on who you were, and as usual, baddie you bites me trust in the ass, Never trusting you again, lol. I also trusted Cobalt and that was apparently a joke as well, since Dom has flipped civ.

OK, the civvies are hosed anyhow. Lets lynch me. If there is only one baddie left maybe this will expose him, or her, however s/he may appear.

Voting Cookie.

Also, to the person who blocked me. Blocking me was fairly pointless, as someone else is the killer

Lets do it Lacey.

You were blocked this most recent night?

I was told that what I attempted to do did not go through, so that is my presumption.

And you said i am the last baddie, yet you have not voted for me

Why not?

Ricochet 2 wrote:

Cobalt 2 wrote:Got busy. Voting llama.

I'll be honest, this surprised me.

My gut was saying you were going to come back and change your mind to sig.

Epignosis 2 wrote:Okay thanks this help, I still have about 16 hours to make up my mind so I'm going to think about it, right know I'm leaning for a Sig lynch over Llama, I think however sig flips assuming he is lynched we should consider a Llama lynch.

Cookie 2 wrote:

Black Rock 2 wrote:

Synonym 2 wrote:

Black Rock 2 wrote:Welcome back and congrats on your rezz Golden 2, assuming of course that you are good. I'll be gone to see about the horses part of the day tomorrow but will be back in plenty of time for discussion.

What do you mean "assuming of course that you are good" he is writeup mod-confirmed as town are you serious

BR2 slipping into my scum reads.

What do you mean he is write-up mod-confirmed as town? You mean because his role was revealed as town? Wasn't there conversation earlier in the game about there being a possible seemer in this game because it was in the host survey? Personally, I will have some doubt about any death that is a civ death because of that risk. Something I learned from past mafia playing.

Personally, I agree that nothing is confirmed; I plan to take it on a case by case basis. I think it is rather unlikely, though possible. He seemed pretty civ to me.If we knew how many Mafias there were, we could get a better feel for this. If only one, it is especially unlikely that he is bad. It could be a crazy power ploy to gain a role civ cred, especially if the rezzer was on their team, but it would be a big risk to use up powers that way this early. Plus MOST of the time, the rezzer is a civ power. Someone had said earlier that they usually use the Seemer to throw doubt into a lynch, and I agree, but if a Seemer is NKed, they still use it.

But yeah, unknown roles, anything is possible, so even with Host posts, no one or nothing is confirmed for realz.

I am, as usual,planning to vote for Sig unless Syn melts down & calls me stupid again. I liked that so much!

Cookie 2 wrote:

Long Con 2 wrote:You are correct, cookie. I was trying to begin discussion, not stifle it. The act that Synonym talked about the skin of his sock account doesn't bother me as much as him saying that there are five baddies among us. How would he know that unless he was one of them.

And for reference,this is the post that has me feeling most town about Long Con. Had it been me in this position, as a Mafia, at this point I would have agreed with Cookie (me) and latched onto her reasons for thinking Syn might be bad, and make my own secondary, thus being able to blame her for the eventual lynch of Synonym. Instead he blew off my thoughts, and reiterated his own. I don't see a baddie doing that, at least not an experienced one, and from his posts I think LC has been around the Mafia block.

I recall feeling this way very clearly since this was right after LC had asked me if *I* had any suspicions, which kind of freaked me out a bit. Why was he singling me out? But this reply made me feel all kinds of better.

For Syn, it is more of an over all tone. He sounds sincere about kidding around, and sincerely pissed, not faux baddie pissed. This post went far for me towards feeling that way:

Synonym 2 wrote:

Gamer Guy 2 wrote:Can we please lynch Sig tomorrow? Synonym, will you help me?

Why?

iirc he was one of the earliest to call Scum Con on his bullshit.

While I disagree with his conclusion (for me, anyone coming out and saying "I will vote/suspect anyone who votes/suspects *X* because of the stoopid ideas of *Y*", as sig did, ESPECIALLY on Day One when we ALL have stoopid ideas to be almost ALWAYS have been said by a Mafia) I can't imagine an actual Mafia Syn saying this about LC. He is coming out and saying that, in his opinion, LCs ideas are actually bullshit, not true. If he knew that Long Con was actually right, and Syn was bad, I don't know that he would have said this so baldly. Like i said, tone. But it reads sincere to me, even If I disagree with him here.

Personally I think we should all vote for Sig. Because now that I am thinking about it, I don't think I have EVER heard a town aligned player say something like: "I will vote/suspect anyone who votes/suspects *X* because of the stoopid ideas of *Y*". Have ANY of you ever said something like this when you are town? On Day One?

In any case, back later.

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:Cobalt 2, top 2 choices for this lynch?

Llama 2 wrote:If Bass 2 died behind a mafia member tonight, then why was there no mafia kill?

Can you plausibly answer that, sig?

It does look pretty clearing for Lacey, MM and Cobalt. *Possibly* Dom. That is a point I agree on with you.

Not knowing the date when WrDilgy replaced Cookie, we won't know how many people Bass 2 was able to look into and hide behind.

Golden 2 wrote:I'll be over at the bar again until regardless how many dusks and dawns it takes for this bullshit to be over.

I tracked "rey" doing something to me the Night I died and then tracked him again on Night 5, when it turned out he targeted me again. The first time I said he might be my killer, but the second time his shenanigans was clear. So last Day I voted him so quick out of grudge impulse. I didn't expect the Day to freaking end. However, to be frank, I still feel vindicated because of that miserable loss I suffered, after two human days of playing fair, considering I didn't stand a chance to earn his sympathy in the first place.

Golden 2 wrote:

Bass 2 wrote:Your case is that a Mafia Seemer walked the line of getting mod killed JUST to set you up for a lynch?

After Days of playing it safe and subtle? Sure, why not switch gears. Besides, it's also very easy to dupe you all by being so brazen and thus look like the real deal. But his fail is forgetting this isn't home turf, this is another forum. Check back my Mordechai game in Biblical (although that sock is now probably changed into one of the socks here, lol), if it pleases you, and see if you can trace any sign of me going overboard this much during it. I can play hard ball, but I'm still aware on which site I am and am aware of minimum etiquette.

Cookie 2 wrote:Because I am full of gluten. I have many fine tributes; being gluten free is not one of them.

Now Good night

Linki, I have not said much the last 24 hours. I was trying to post this AM when the thread locked. View it as you like, but I prefer to get someone who refuses to participate other than making sanctimonious speeches periodically ot of the way. i feel it is in everyones best interests to get the hostility out of the way and move on. If you feel that tht is out of character for what you know of me, then by all means keep voting for me. You know nothing, Jon Snow.

Cookie 2 wrote:

Cobalt 2 wrote:Voted.

Really? You have no understanding of me at all, then, I do my job first, always. And I do what i think is right. Always. I am sorry we are not on the same page.

Nor REALLY I need to sleep ha ha ha

Cookie 2 wrote:

Reywas 2 wrote:I'd rather boo 2 get replaced or modkilled than waste a lynch on him. I'm not a fan of his attitude, but I'm also not a big fan of anyone using this as an opportunity to set up an easy vote. If he flips civ there's absolutely no accountability for those votes.

I got my eye on Lacey 2 and Cookie 2 for that.

He has made it clear he isn't going to ask to be replaced. If you miss the point of this, fine. But this thread has had a hostility element and perhaps this will purge it if we come together to do this. Our hostesses are awesome, and why force them to modkill one of their roles?

boo 2 wrote:

Cobalt 2 wrote:You're kidding me right.

Am I?

Are you?