The Syndicate

Artemis wrote:Once I ate a tooth.
I had soaked it in vermouth.
It hurt, that's the truth.

Phoenix wrote:

Medusa wrote:you can search for teeth
down south, but you won't find them
in anyone's mouth

rude.

awww, so sorry if it offended. I hail from Redneckville, south United States. Just poking fun at my own hometown

oops. I just realized you said living players

you can search for teeth
down south, but you won't find them
in anyone's mouth

Chronos wrote:

Medusa wrote:i'd love to visit Maryland but I'm stranded in the medusa cascade

Someone watches Doctor Who?

doesnt everyone?

i'd love to visit Maryland but I'm stranded in the medusa cascade

Zeus wrote:I will miss Medusa.

awwww. Thank you. I will miss you too, whoever you are.

its hissy fit time

I'm not sure how paper disproves Spock, but paper comes in handy for sketching. So paper it is.

I just can't make up my mind about who seems bad. So I voted Apollo. I don't want to appear wishy-washy or something like that. The least I can do is be consistent, right?

Zeus was a cruel god, but his avatar makes him look so sweet. This is deceptive, isn't it? And yet, I still feel kind of safe with him around. At least, I think I do. His instincts seem very discussable. Is that a word? But he might be lying, as cruel gods often do. But just look at that face, no way could that face be dishonest. Well, I'll just think about Zeus tomorrow.

Morningish? What a fantastic word! I may have to plagiarize that one.

La Vesta, you make very good sense in your posts. This tells me nothing, of course, except that I see no reason to give you much thought, and I mean that in the best way possible. Do you only allow virgins into your club? Whatever can you possibly discuss at your meetings?

Time for some P people. Pandora is making me stroke my little chin whiskers quite a lot. Just being here and posting is not enough for me to rest easy about her, maybe if she starts questioning other players I'll have something to think about while I'm stroking.

Where's Phoenix? What do we know about Phoenix?

Pluto, who are you suspicious of? Besides who you just said? I'm not sure if I trust you, but I'm not sure if I don't.

The whole Helios thing is kind of up in the air. Is he here or not? If he's here, then he's probably vote worthy. But if he's not here, well, then a vote is a terrible thing to waste. Can anyone find him please, so I can make up my mind?

Mars is pretty well covered. Everyone has an opinion there, so moving on.

Elektra is a mystery to me. She is someone I think I need to keep an eye on, because theres not much to see really. Maybe time and a lot of posts will give me a better idea of what she's all about.

Eros, the spreader of love. Y'all feel the love? I think Apollo does

Ceres and Chronos are two people I've thought a lot about. It's hard not to, amirite? They are both so obvious. I don't know what either of them is up to though, that part is not obvious. What you see is what you get, I guess.

Athena, what tha? I don't get it at all. How anyone could be in the game this long and still be so ambiguous. It beats me. Say something woman! Get me a beer and a sandwich, anything just make some waves. It's just impossible to get any pings off someone who is so pingless. Maybe if you try a little harder or a little less, I dunno.

Ares, what a delightful sense of humor you have. I really don't know what to think after rereading your posts. Some helpful, some not so much. I could probably go either way in my thoughts where you are concerned, so I might just do that.

Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, what can I say? I'm itching like a man on a fuzzy tree? No that doesn't quite convey it, hmmm. I really have a problem with your love for Elvis and I could see voting for you because bad taste in music is no excuse. But I hardly know what to think because I'm all shook up. You do have a lot of posts to reread which is pretty fantastic, but where did the time go? I do promise, I will think it over.

Wow, I am such an airhead. I reread all of the A names. AlI can say is Amazing. It took less than two seconds, because it doesn't take long to read four names. Now I need to reread their posts. Well I did read Aphrodite. Atypical, to say the least. My opinion is pretty solid there. Mm-hmm.

I'll reread some more and share my insights if I ever have any.

I reread mars and vesta. I dropped vesta out of my current suspicions, but mars did defend herc more than once. So I'm still looking at him.

I also think that Ceres and ares need a closer look. Something about the last minute votes on Fortuna is bothering me. Granted, if they were trying to save Artemis, and she flipped civ, then I shouldn't be looking at them. If she was mr nancy, then no one would know who she was anyway, to be trying to save her. But there's always that doubt about whether someone is who they seem to be. I don't know, I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks about them.

All the choices look like fascinating places to see, but donuts? Nourishing, sweet tooth satisfying, melt in your mouth goodness. The architecture of the building, the history, its appearance in popular culture, being a landmark - all thats cool too. But donuts, man.

Vesta, you didn't have time to explain your Phoenix vote earlier. Can you give your reasons now?

I think lactescence is a spectacular word. It makes me think of a wet nurse throwing stars and shit.

Randy's donuts sound awfully good. I'll research these places before I decide, but right now, Krispy Kreme is on my mind.

Great results! My little hissers are happy.

Ok, someone mentioned Vesta earlier, forgot who. I had a bad feeling about her earlier in the game, but kind of forgot about it. I'll read back tonight. Oh and was it Mars who defended Herc? I'll read him too.

I could be off the mark about Hercules. But I'm viewing it like this: he's been mostly absent. Then a quick insanified vote for Perse. Then says it was because of Eros, and yet, Eros votes him the next day.

Complains about taking votes for being quiet, but remains quiet. So, comparing Perse and herc, she's outspoken and mostly speaking up for fairness. He's quiet.
Outspoken vs quiet. Outspoken was nkd, quiet is still here, being quiet.

I just did. There's still time for him to say something that might change my thinking. Otherwise, I'll stick with a herc vote.

So, Hercules was discussed a bit yesterday, took a few votes, but now he's ok?

I'm thinking about a herc vote today, unless I see a compelling case for someone else,or a great reason to believe he is civvie. Something about how he voted Perse and gave not much of a reason, then complained about getting votes for being absent, and then went absent again, is giving me the willies.

Hercules, I would like to hear more from you. You said you voted Persephone based on eros's case on her, (which i only saw two posts regarding persephone) and then got upset because you were taking votes for being scarce. But you're still being scarce.

Who do you suspect?

I thought Zeus's point was that the three players would vote what the majority of players chose, after discussion in the thread. I can't really see a baddie coming up with this plan. But I disagree with it because I don't think our hostesses would be very pleased with people not voting.

I don't think it would be terrible if we discussed things that would help us determine who is still in the game, and who isn't. It might help us to figure out whether any of the lynched were not who we thought. For instance, I was given btsc one night by apple Johnny. Or at least that's what I thought- something happened later that made me wonder... If people can say whether they are still getting btsc as a gift from apple j, it would help me to figure some things out.

Thank you Apollo.

Maybe we can examine some of what we know. The poll remover person is supposed to be dead but may not be; whiskey jack is still kicking; I haven't seen any posting effects yet today, although there were 3 or 4 possible roles who could cause that. One of them is supposed to be dead, maybe the others missed voting. The person who grants btsc, I don't see anything saying it has to be kept secret. If people are granted btsc, maybe they could say so, so we can keep up with whether that person is still around.

I think I need to make a list of the players who didn't vote last time.

Do you think that's what happened last night? If Hinzelmann is still alive, then he might be among the non-voters. But whichever baddie team was supposed to kill, all of them would have had to miss voting, since any of them can do the killing. That would be very unusual, but I I suppose it could happen.

I don't mean to make things more confusing, but it's possible that Communications secret is something entirely different. Wearing the guise of another player probably does refer to the lynch, but its possible that its a nightly ability. Like Comm could take other players nightly ability and use it how he chooses. Just a thought.

Voted Kentucky. I don't see Ohio or Kentucky listed as places that shadow and mr Wednesday stopped on their journey, but I'm just relying on websites. The book might have something better about the choices. I don't know.

Eros wrote:

Apollo wrote:But they could have.

How's the tree-bitch?

Is this referring to the world tree?

Looking over the roles to see which one could vouch for a couple of players. Especially a protector with no btsc. I see a possibility on each baddie team, and of course, the Indys have secrets. Anyone have thoughts on this?

I'm going with Fortuna for now. Although I agree with some of what Aphrodite says about Hercules, I would want to have enough time to hear from him before voting.

The case on Athena is not conclusive enough for me. I think she made a good point about not being sure if a player is who they appear to be and I want to think about that some more

voted fortuna

I agree with that, but my default instincts still say 'trust no one'. But I'll play along for now. If the five vouchees are off the table, and I think Aphrodite, also, that leaves 13 players. I will start rereading 12 of them now.

Eros wrote:If you want to go to Heaven, love thy neighbor.

But not too much, or you'll go to the other place.

This is way over my head.

Zeus wrote:

Medusa wrote:I must be unfamiliar with this style of mafia, the 'don't vote so&so' method. Why would Eros endorse two players, and not expect it to paint a target on himself and the other two players? Because he isn't worried about being a target?

Now Zeus is doing the same with Athena

Anyone have an idea about whether this strategy of being blatant is a civvie or baddie thing?

It would be a bold baddie move possibly. Too bold in my opinion. Of course you may factor in WIFOM which will bring you back to us being bad again. But that still makes it a very bold move for a baddie.

Put it this way. As a civ you see another person you think is civ being put under suspicion. How would you handle the situation? So far Athena has suspected a civ and failed to vote twice. In my opinion it is more common for civs to miss votes. Not that baddies don't. They certainly do.

Don't you think it's an equally bold move for a civvie to make? It's like saying 'here I am baddies. Come and get me/us'.

I must be unfamiliar with this style of mafia, the 'don't vote so&so' method. Why would Eros endorse two players, and not expect it to paint a target on himself and the other two players? Because he isn't worried about being a target?

Now Zeus is doing the same with Athena

Anyone have an idea about whether this strategy of being blatant is a civvie or baddie thing?

Apollo wrote:

Medusa wrote:

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Or, Hinzelmann could already be dead.

He would have to be Persephone then, because Atlas didn't kill himself.

Oh yes, of course. I forgot that no one died on night two.

Apollo wrote:So Hinzelmann cannot protect himself two nights in a row, but he has only killed once. That means we are either looking at someone who missed votes or neglected to send in a PM (unless he was simply role blocked.) According to my Spreadsheet, nobody fits the bill better than Poseidon, who voted on Day One and has been MIA ever since. I may consider a vote for Poseidon today.

Or, Hinzelmann could already be dead.

Eros wrote:I haven't been this uncomfortable since the time I accidentally shot my cat. Boy, was THAT an awkward two weeks.

Ok. I want to hear the rest of this. Why are you uncomfortable?

I'm going to try for a clean slate here. Look at things with no preconceived ideas.

I went back to the roles, and tried guessing some of the secrets. Does anyone want to venture a guess about the baddie who keeps bodies in his trunk? He has a secret and I suppose it has to do with the bodies. Either he finds out the identity of the dead, or he can resurrect them later? If its the first one, that would be kind of cool, in that the other team has someone who can appear as someone else if lynched. One baddie team might be able to catch the other in a lie, and make connections and kill off a few of the baddies.

If its a resurrecting ability, then I don't see a bright side.

Does anyone besides me wonder if all the lynchees are who they were revealed to be?

Oops, sorry .zues, it was someone else who voted Ohio, and I thought it was you. My big bad!!!!!

Eros, I know you are not obligated to respond to this, but I'm going to express my concerns, regardless. There is a target switcher in the game, and secrets. I'm wondering how sure you can possibly be about a player affiliation, considering this. Maybe I'm just a creature of little faith, but I still have some doubt here.

Zeus, I've done a reread of you, and I noted some inconsistency. Nothing terribly damning, but questionable, nonetheless.

You were happy to vote Indiana and follow Dr. Jones, but now you prefer Ohio. Info?

You also posted that you liked Tuna, so you would probably vote Artemis. (Although you had not previously mentioned Artemis)
Then someone made a post stating concerns about Fortuna, and you replied that you still didn't see much of a case on Fortuna. Then you made another post to vote Artemis. Still never mentioning anything about the case on Artemis. It sounds like your goal was not centered around comparing evidence or cases, but to make sure that anyone other than Fortuna got your vote.

I am definitely having difficulty with the open support of Fortuna, but I realize it could be for a good reason. I just wish I could calm my wariness over this.