The Syndicate

Electra wrote:

Mars wrote: And Electra, have you seriously never defended someone you mistakenly thought was civ? This 'case' against me is incredibly shallow (not to mention inaccurate anyway).

No.

Never.

Not once.

Why would you?

Chronos wrote:Voting Mars. Especially after his last comment to me.

S~V~S wrote:Seven people voted? Really?

Eros wrote:

Mars wrote:

Zeus wrote:I have quite forgotten the Phoenix thing. Why do you think he is bad, Apollo?

I'm still unclear on fonctionnaire Phoenix thing too. Interesting that sudorific assistance investigated knavery

It's also interesting to me that Hercules was insane for a period of time too. That also makes me consider you his teammate.

Hercules wrote:You know, being insanifia. You know, beinsanifia. You know, being is the worst part part of mafia. You know, beinsanifia. You know, being is the worst part of mafied really is the worst part part part of mafia. You know, beinsanified really is the worst of mafia. You know, being insanifia. You know, being is the worst part of mafia. You know, being is the worst part of mafia. You know, being is the worst part of mafia. You know, beinsanifia. You know, being is the worst of mafied really is the wors

Zeus wrote:I have quite forgotten the Phoenix thing. Why do you think he is bad, Apollo?

Vesta wrote:

Phoenix wrote:correct me if I'm wrong here, but it appears to me that the "case" on Artemis is the supposed "slip" with the "lots of civs voted..." thing and then there seems to be a few circumstantial things that seem reaching a bit. Is there any actual solid evidence?

The things that Apollo said about Fortuna seems more solid than the Artemis stuff in my opinion.

Phoenix wrote:The more I read the more the case on Artemis seems like a trumped up bandwagon. I can't remember who said it, but when people call something a slip it's usually only a slip if it's blatant. Twisting english to make something a slip does not make it actually a slip.,

Phoenix wrote:

Pandora wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.

Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.

Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.

That sentence is pretty suspect tbh. That seems like more of a slip than anything else I've seen in this game. It sounds like you threw that "yet" in there by accident. It could be seen as you saying, "I am bad, but I haven't done anything shady for you to call me out on as of yet."

I have been rereading Phoenix and notice that he jumps at other's cases quite often. I found it interesting that in the case on Artemis he thinks slips are unimportant, but with Pandora, now that he is being discussed as a candidate too, they are suddenly important. He acknowledges this is "more of a slip," and I agree that Pandora's statement sounds more of a slip than Artemis, but seems opportunistic and inconsistent to me. This combined with his vote for Zeus making it a tie with Herc, has me pretty suspicious of his intentions.

I am likely to vote here, since my vote for Helios didnt make him magically appear like Electra.

Aphrodite wrote:Mars You voted Poseidon d1 not lynched.
You voted Artemis d 2 not lynched.
You voted Artemis d3 lynched a civ.
Day 4 you failed to vote.
You vote Zeus not lynched.

Day one flimsy reason for voting Poseidon. The next day you drop Poseidon and latch onto the Artemis wagon. You vote for him 2 days in a row but the kicker is that even though several reasons were listed you vote Artemis day 4 because you felt his curse was faked because why would the hosts not let you say anything on topic or defend yourself. Funny you didn`t mention your fake curse of insanification. Why would the hosts allow it? You couldn`t post anything readable on topic nor could you have defended yourself.
So It is ok in your mafia playbook to vote for someone cursed even though they cannot defend nor be understood and read right?

Day 4 you missed the vote but said you were not suspicious of Hercules but would have voted Athena thats so funny because......

Day 5 you do not vote Athena because you see nothing damning about her even though you were ready to vote for her day 4 lol so contradictory haha what is even better is that you vote Zeus the person who is defending her why? Funny reason tbh... you claim he was trying for civ cred. I do not see how it is possible for the baddies to know who is exactly civ becasue there are two baddie teams. No way to know for 100%. Your whole vote post read as insincere and justtrying to find any reason not to vote for Hercules who you again defended by saying you thought it odd people were discussing him each day.

So what say you about you voting past and reasons?

Tbh you are my top suspect for todays lynch.

Medusa wrote:I'm going to try for a clean slate here. Look at things with no preconceived ideas.

I went back to the roles, and tried guessing some of the secrets. Does anyone want to venture a guess about the baddie who keeps bodies in his trunk? He has a secret and I suppose it has to do with the bodies. Either he finds out the identity of the dead, or he can resurrect them later? If its the first one, that would be kind of cool, in that the other team has someone who can appear as someone else if lynched. One baddie team might be able to catch the other in a lie, and make connections and kill off a few of the baddies.

If its a resurrecting ability, then I don't see a bright side.

Does anyone besides me wonder if all the lynchees are who they were revealed to be?

Vesta wrote:I am still a bit hung up on Artemis. Looking back at votes, she voted for Eros early, when it would make the most sense to hold your vote to defend yourself since she was a top candidate all day. The only way that makes sense is if she knew she would be saved. Lynch switch, votes stolen, etc. The insanification of Artemis also makes no sense. When I went back to see how she defended herself yesterday, it became clear there is no rhyme or reason. She's posting literally anything. It's not a story or specific video and not an insanifier, so I don't see how it isn't faked. Has anyone else been insanified like this so far?

I normally don't like to vote people insanified, but Artemis did have a chance to defend herself and would have been voted again if not for this insanification. Makes me rethink my possible vote for Fortuna today.

Persephone wrote:

Eros wrote:

Persephone wrote: But maybe we should look at those who have just latched onto this without adding any of their own originality to the discussion aka Fortuna. here is her post:

Fortuna wrote: Interesting. I agree with Athena. Can you explain yourself Artemis?

So what was interesting? What do YOU think about what Arte said? What Athena said? You have just jumped in on this but yet added nothing yourself if it is so interesting I would think you would tell us what is so interesting.

Sure baddies will say "There are a lot/several civs who voted X" I have seen it happen but I have also seen players like Fortuna latching on without putting themselves out there in the limelight like Athena did. I am going to be very interested to see what happens with these three as this day progresses.

This post makes me way more nervous about its author than its subject.

Elaborate please. I am glad to hear Fortuna, Arte and Athena are nothing for you to be nervous over.

Linky Yes Medusa both are suspicious of me though neither has elaborated why. Idk about the Atlas thing.

Pluto wrote:Also, does anyone else listen to the 20th Century Fox theme song and immediately think of Star Wars? Or is that just me?

Pluto wrote:The technique, the poise, the determination. I wouldn't mind having a robot like that. Speaking of determination, it seems like Athena and Artemis are trying to move attention away from the Wisconsin voters. Very interesting.....almost as interesting as ketchup.

Vesta wrote:

Apollo wrote:There are definitely other people worth looking at besides Prometheus, but he is the one that stands out to me the most. The "it doesn't matter who gets lynched" comment on Day 1 seems very strange, the Wisconsin vote (which I'm not sure I wholly buy into, but it does make sense that Hinzelmann would have voted it) and he was the last person to cast a random vote (besides maybe Medusa) when everyone else was weighing in on Poseidon vs. Hermes.

I also found it odd that he has so far made no attempt to defend himself from my scrutiny, probably hoping if he ignores it it will go away.

The idea of Poseidon being saved is an interesting one. If that is true, Vesta looks like the most likely culprit, or we could try to lynch Poseidon again and see what happens.

I still want to hear from Eros regarding his Mars vote.

I hope a lot more is said before I have to vote this evening.

I assure you I was not voting to save Poseidon, okay.

I thought he was only suspicious to you because of not voting. You would now like to lynch him because people may have been saving him, just to see? This doesn't sound civ-friendly to me.

What happened to your no vote=no live policy you were touting before?

Artemis wrote:

Persephone wrote:First how awesome Laura's role is interactive it should be a huge help for us! I agree with her that it is indeed likely that Hinzelman voted for Wisconsin. I do wonder about the tie, if it was a tie.

As far as the Artemis/Athena go I do find it odd Artemis wrote a lot of civs then went on to say several civs. Athena's strong reaction is well idk. Let me discuss this.
Arte: I agree it is likely that civs voted for Wisconsin but it could just as easily be baddies and/or indy's in there as well so to say a lot or several civs seems to be like glossing over what you have posted. Again how do you know there were a lot/several civs and not baddies and/or indy's.
Athena: Nice to know you think so highly of yourself Modest aren't you? lol I have to ask you how do you know there are not a lot of civ's who voted Wisconsin? Why are you so intent of throwing all this at Arte? I mean I voted Wisconsin too but you seem to be distracting us from looking at Wisconsin voters and instead drawing eyes to Arte. Why? I do find what he said odd but I find some things you have said odd as well. Why not look at the Wisconsin voters? Is it because you voted Wisconsin as well?

Both of Arte and Athena should be looked at by everyone to see how they feel. I like looking at all sides and have no problem with closer scrutiny in my direction because of my vote for Wisconsin.

But maybe we should look at those who have just latched onto this without adding any of their own originality to the discussion aka Fortuna. here is her post:

Fortuna wrote: Interesting. I agree with Athena. Can you explain yourself Artemis?

So what was interesting? What do YOU think about what Arte said? What Athena said? You have just jumped in on this but yet added nothing yourself if it is so interesting I would think you would tell us what is so interesting.

Sure baddies will say "There are a lot/several civs who voted X" I have seen it happen but I have also seen players like Fortuna latching on without putting themselves out there in the limelight like Athena did. I am going to be very interested to see what happens with these three as this day progresses.

Why would someone insanify my Mom Ceres? I do not remember anything in her posts but perhaps I should read back she may have struck someones nerve. It does seem as if she is saying she thinks Poseidon is Mr Stone because of how Mr Stones picture was added late and that Poseidon had shown up late as well. They both showed up around the same time - is this right Mother? I also think she is saying Arte is a smooth tongued poster.

Prometheus' seeming to defend Arte pinged me slightly.

Still watching Apollo who has quieted down a bit today - but so did I because of rl. So yes I am still a bit suspicious of him from day 1.

Eros post about Mars has me wondering what you mean. Explain please. Some might say that post of yours is bullshit as you do not explain what makes it bullshit. lol

Gosh we are so lucky to have so much to discuss. It will hopefully lead to a better lynch than the last one.

I will be in and out today to discuss.

I have time for one post, so I will try to sum everything up in one.

I am purely speculating regarding the voters. I had momentarily forgot how dangerous that is in mafia, because then you are the first sacrificed offered up. I don't like to use precise words, so don't get hung up on "a lot" versus "several." I'd still use either today. To me, it doesn't make sense for baddies to vote Wisconsin any more than it would for civs to vote -- cause Hinzelmann is an SK. I don't think voting for a SK's homestate would be beneficial to baddies, but then again, that's mere speculation. It seems like the SK could come after us as much as the baddie contingents.

I do however think it's very plausible the SK could have safely voted for himself in amongst all those voters. It would be all too easy to hide. I think over time we can root Hinzelmann out of there, but I think purely voting Wisconsin voters tonight would be folly -- I think there's still far too many civs making up the makeup of that selection. That said, I don't have an info-gathering role or BTS to allow me to know who is who, so it's all raw data that I was simply trying to talk aloud and make sense of.

Eros wrote:Mars is the god of bullshit or war?

I forget which. Please remind me.

I still don't understand why some trade Mars bars on Valentine's Day.