The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

S~V~S wrote:That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

It looked fairly true to me, and we have 2 hex/potion people in this game, perhaps they insanify via different methods. I have seen probably half a dozen different insanifiers. Vomps looked like one I have seen before, so I am not sure what you mean by "true" insanification.

And I was on phone, I did not realize it was a tie, I thought INH had less votes. Tomorrow i am going to vote BWT again, or Vomps. And :P at MP, you pushed me to make a decision, then did not show up, lol. I could have voted closer to the end than I did, and I would have voted Vomp to save INH.

Mongoose wrote:

S~V~S wrote:That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I'm holding onto my vote in case I need to save myself. If I don't need to do that, I might go for Hedgeowl. I don't like the vote for Vomps. I think he's still genuinely interested in the game, and that alone is enough to make me think he wouldn't self-insanify.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

Mongoose wrote:I am not faking
I wish that you were baking
Cakes and pies for me

insertnamehere wrote:BIH Nutella!

Let's get down to it, we're now looking for a rogue indie type character.

Abramelin the Mage - Author of one of the most powerful and rigorous works of Western Magic, detailing an intense operation to commune with one's Holy Guardian Angel and learn great magical secrets. Takes a few days to complete his operation, but if he makes it he becomes super powerful. *secrets*

So, can we assume his "operation" has been completed? My first guess is that he had something to do with our old pal Chronozon rising from where ever it is that things rise from. Can we assume that Abramelin's "operation" summoned Chronozon?

thellama73 wrote:
Chronozon, with a satisfied smirk, has receded into the realm from whence he came.

Okay, Chrono was pleased after Nutella was lynched, and subsequently the whole baddie team being destroyed. I'd guess that this wasn't a coincidence. If Chrono is connected to Abramelin, maybe he had to eliminate the baddie team first before he could gain powers, and really become a threat to the civvies.

Or, alternatively, he was offered a choice to either join the civvies or the baddies once he completed his "operation". I don't see Abe joining the baddies willingly, though. (No offense to AP or Nutella.) I doubt that he has been recruited.

I really don't know who to look at. I'd assume that Abramelin was civvie-neutral before he had his little "operation", and possibly had to get the baddies out in order to make himself stronger.

This means that looking for people not wanting to catch baddies could end up being fruitless. As far as we know, he's a lone wolf, so no looking for connections either.

We're going to have start back at square one for this.

Mafia:
Team Power: Each night, they can attempt to evoke a demon to do their bidding.

S~V~S wrote:Eenie Meenie Jelly Beanie, the Astrologer is about to speak!!


"Having consulted SVS' chart, the portents of the planets aligning with the Dog Star lead me to the conclusion that regardless of what SVS says regarding the queries of the cute l'il owl, the cute l'il owl will find a reason to not believe it. The signs indicate that some time after the end of the night, the time will be propitious for such an attempt."

Mongoose wrote:

S~V~S wrote:
At this point, only one thing is sticking out to me, and that is Hedgie implying she would consider voting for Vomps based solely on the number of his posts. That does not sit well with me, tbh. If i had to vote this second, i might vote there, but i don't so I won't. Maybe she was just joking?

She said something similar at the start of last game (I think it was the one you modded), so it's at least consistent.

S~V~S wrote:Did she? I followed the game in general, but don't recall specific posts, or keep track of affiliation. It just seems, like low poster talk, to be an easy way to not be accountable for your vote.

Did she vote based on that? And what was her affiliation?

Dom wrote:Hedge was civ in that game, Sherry.

S~V~S wrote:OK, thanks

Hedgeowl wrote:

Dom wrote:Hedge was civ in that game, Sherry.

SVS - ask Dom how he remembers so clearly.

But yes, I tried the top poster theory in wwe and it was mildly successful, but in the Hobbit, MP was the top poster Day 1 and I went with it and we got him, followed by 2 more of his teammates, so it felt like a successful start. That said, I don't know who I will vote for now, but couldn't resist teasing Vomps.

I still might vote a top poster k.

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:4 And it came to pass that the Tilded One spake ignorance of the goings and comings of the Hedgeowl, even though, on the Third Day of WWE (cf., The Twenty-third of December in the Year of our Lord 2013), the Hedgeowl announced its intentions to search for evil among those who had oft spoken.

5 And in those days, the Tilded One had walked in the ways of evil (cf., The Fifteenth of December, in the Year of our Lord 2013, being a strong and mighty Big Show, working for the worshipers of Mammon.

I don't spend a lot of brain cells remembering everything everyone else does in a game if it does not impact me much. And that obviously did not. Unless I directly engage them, I don't carry baggage from game to game. Everyone evolves.

Was the person she killed via her high poster theory on my team?

And I believe badness/civvieness is to be determined by content, not post count. So I distrust anyone who bases votes on that alone. Pretty much always, and I can say this with firm conviction and without need of *not this game* linkis.

S~V~S wrote:I have to agree re Vomps, I will read back before work, and see who posted actual content, and who did not. I will probably vote based on that.

Other than Hedgie, did anyone actually recommend a Vomps vote?

nutella wrote:Have to vote now, don't really have any good ideas. Hedge's thing about voting for the top poster seems weird, not necessarily suspicious but it's all I can think of so I'm voting for her

S~V~S wrote:Why did Epi vote Lizzy? Tedious self imposed curse is tedious~ he has quoted and made some fairly clear remarks, not sure why he could not do so here.

I am hoping to get an understandable (non pseudo Biblicalish) explanation for this. I am not holding my breath My other possible vote is Nutella, but i always tend to read her as opportunistic & sinister (what I find a Hedgie vote to be after it has been pointed out that she has done this high poster biz previously as a civ, which doesn't not mean she is one now, but DOES mean that it is not necessarily a baddie way to make a non accountable vote on Hedgies part) BUT BUT I almost ALWAYS tend to misread LA as being bad whether she is or not, and would hate to do so on Day One.

So leaning towards an Epi vote, but not enough that I need to vote yet. His non explanation for his Lizzy vote, and his trying to make me look icky for a non game related reason (me not recalling something that happened in another game I played, but that had no effect on me) both kinda got my eye. All the other eye getters only got my eye once, he got 2 eyes.

When I DO vote it will be from work on phone, so it is likely to be a not much said vote~ vote now, explain later.

S~V~S wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Great lynch result! I honestly had no suspicion of AP, so I wouldnt have been any help. I voted SVS, because after Epi came up civ, her jumping back and forth between suspects on Day 1 seemed more suspicious to me. She actually seems to be using the Dom tactic of asking others how they feel about so and so. The more I read of today, the more I wondered why she keeps bringing me up over and over.

Also, as regards Dom's instincts they were spot on in Bioshock, my first game with him. He does have a singular focus for sure, but I see the more focused he is, the more I think he is civ, so I am reading him as civ this game.

"Jumping back & Forth"? Have you played with me before? I "stream of consciousness" my opinions all the time. Discussing a lot of people gets them all talking back, and it makes it easier to make connections later in the game. Alsl anything that gets the baddies talking means they have more chances to slip and screw up. Forcing people to talk and explain their opinions helps me (and others, I hope) form opinions of their own. I asked several people on Day one lots of pointed questions, not just you.

It is not a "Dom tactic" it's how I play.I keep bringing you up because you raised a lot of discussion, and were a big topic of discussion day one, and you barely responded to it. I was not going to suspect you for the high poster thing (the people you listed as your successful high poster baddies are people who, like me, high post regardless of affiliation, so i call it a coincidence), but you did get my eye for not responding to any of the discussion about you.

Then you say you suspect me because I was talking about you. Why don't you want people talking about you?

The combo of these points read "blendy" to me.

nutella wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Also, Yay one baddie down, Wow AP, you totally fooled me, I never thought someone bad would make that vote. And LA, yeah, that was my point. he does it like every game. It is just who he is, you implied that this behavior was suspicious. That was why i questioned it.

But I didn't imply that it was suspicious? I said I thought Dom/Boogs were civ-on-civ and I wanted to look elsewhere. I said I didn't trust Dom's radar and that I thought his "fixation" on Boogs was unproductive. Nowhere did I say I thought he was suspicious.

That is how I read the post, like you were coming down on Boogs side in the conversation. But I went into yesterday AM with you at the top of my list, and you dropped back enough that I did not vote for you after I reread you a bit.

Dom wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: SVS - ask Dom how he remembers so clearly.

Epignosis wrote:4 And it came to pass that the Tilded One spake ignorance of the goings and comings of the Hedgeowl, even though, on the Third Day of WWE (cf., The Twenty-third of December in the Year of our Lord 2013), the Hedgeowl announced its intentions to search for evil among those who had oft spoken.

5 And in those days, the Tilded One had walked in the ways of evil (cf., The Fifteenth of December, in the Year of our Lord 2013, being a strong and mighty Big Show, working for the worshipers of Mammon.

Dom wrote:Hedge was civ in that game, Sherry.

insertnamehere wrote:Has anyone seen that show, Finding Bigfoot?

SPOILER ALERT: They don't find Bigfoot.