The Syndicate

You guys did such a great job. A terrific entre for my first mafia game.

Hedgeowl wrote:Pardon me. I did forget you are a Mongoose for a second there. Enjoy your eggs sir!

I love eggs. "I can eat 50 eggs!"

Actually, this mongoose cannot eat 50 eggs, but it's fun to watch Paul Newman do so.

I can't believe no one selected poached eggs. That's my absolute favorite way to eat an egg. With a little white vinegar, you too can master the fiendish poached egg.

Snow Dog wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Good game, guys.
I think me saying i trusted you and was sure you are not diesel may have done this. Sorry stout ally!

No apologies needed!There were some slippery weasels this game for sure.

Good game, guys.

Snow Dog wrote:OK, Mongoose I trust. He is not a diesel. Still worried about A Person though.

I can't fully shake the A Person blame either, but...

I wonder if A Person was the one who switched the vote from himself/herself to Nev. It's one of the only theories that works for me on how someone figured out for sure (or made an extremely shrewd guess) that Nev was bad.

Lizzy wrote:Honestly, Rey! Like I said the other day: he's been flying below the radar quite a bit, Krissy turned out to be a diesel without being here most of the time, or at least visible in the poll voting/discussions; and not having to do with him being a suspect or not, but his lack of participation is not fair towards the rest of us who have been constantly pointing paranoiac fingers at each other since the game started. :P I mean, when I could not participate in the poll voting or discussions on the board because I was busy with my thesis, I made that clear.

But you still haven't answered my question, Snowy. :P

Yeah, I hate for lack of participation alone to be our lynching siren, but it's not helping Rey's case one bit. No one else's voting record is screaming suspicion at me.

A Person wrote:I lost track of time because of dinner and missed the poll by a couple of minutes, although I admit I didn't have a clear idea who to vote for, I was afraid of killing an innocent person like DH.

I know, it's not a nice feeling at all.

Snow Dog wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:So my main suspects are Dharmahelper, and Lizzy.
This is my discussion?
Oh good. I'm thinking Dharma helper foremost. What do you think?

I'm leaving for Caladesi Island all day and won't be here to see how all y'all vote so I will go with DH because I don't suspect Lizzy at all at this point.

McViper wrote:Okay,

On firstt lynch vote:
Nev voted for DP along with me, Hedgeowl and Llama

On second lynch vote:
Nev voted for Bullzeye along with Me and Snowdog (since Bullzeye was a baddie that was obviously a ruse)

On Next lynch vote: Nev didn't vote

Then on the next lynch vote:
Nev voted for me along with DP, Bullzeye and Moongoose

On the last vote:
Nev voted for AP, along with Snowdog, DH and Andrew

what does that tell us? It's tricky I'm thinking Moongoose could be a baddie...

Looks like you have voted with Nev a lot actually.

Also, here's a mind twist. We know that Nev got bagged by a vote result switcher, but are we sure that this just didn't switch the vote from one diesel to another? I think we really need to comb through everything again and look at everyone. I think we just shouldn't assume that A Person is now safe just because the Vote Switcher knew Nev was a baddie.

(I'm not sold on A Person anymore, I just think that would be folly to overlook AP this round).

McViper wrote:
McViper wrote:We Know Krissy and Bullzeye were bad.

Krissy didn't vote that often in the lynch but she voted with Bullzeye and Andrew once/.
And Andrew has voted with baddies before

So I'm thinking Andrew or Mongoose are possible baddies.

After we were all thrown off by Nev, I can understand that everyone is and probably should be a suspect. But I did vote for Krissy twice, who was in fact a diesel.

What a crazy sequence of events.

Anyway, I voted Duck because it is a fun name and reminded me of the Farmyard Friends cartoon that ran inbetween episodes of Garfield & Friends (with Orson the talking pig and Lanolin the sheep, etc). I always remembered that the duck character wore an inner tube with a smaller duck head on the front of it.

Nevinera wrote:
Mongoose wrote: Yes - power is out at my house, so I gotta vote before I leave work.
Ah, that makes sense. Sorry, I forgot you mentioned that.

No worries!

Elohcin wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Mongoose wrote:We are about blown away down here in Tampa Bay (Tropical Storm Andrea)! I used an umbrella to get to work, but the sideways rain soaked my slacks.

Yay Florida. I'm from Orlando!
Awesome! I'm obsessed with so many restaurants in Orlando.
Care to name a few? The Melting Pot is my absolute favorite. However the one nearest Orlando has closed, but there is a newer one in Atamonte.

I like Ethos a lot, BurgerFi was good - right there across from Rollins. Used to do Pizza Fusion off over Orange Blossom Trail before it closed. Did the Good Golly Miss Holly cupcake place since she is always on Cupcake Wars (or so I hear). We don't have a Dave & Busters in Tampa or St Pete, so that's enjoyable. A few of the cute places around Rock & Roll Heaven have been tasty.

The last time we were there, which was about 3 weeks ago to see Bloc Party at The Beacham, we stayed at this historic B&B, which was really nice. We were in the Art Deco building. I think it was called the Courtyard at Lucerne.

I tend to avoid I-Drive, but I've had great ambiance at an Asian restaurant on it -- something with Gardens maybe?

Nevinera wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I voted A Person for reasons that have been discussed thoroughly previously.
Are you in some particular hurry?

Yes - power is out at my house, so I gotta vote before I leave work.

I voted A Person for reasons that have been discussed thoroughly previously.

Elohcin wrote:
Mongoose wrote:We are about blown away down here in Tampa Bay (Tropical Storm Andrea)! I used an umbrella to get to work, but the sideways rain soaked my slacks.

Yay Florida. I'm from Orlando!

Awesome! I'm obsessed with so many restaurants in Orlando.

We are about blown away down here in Tampa Bay (Tropical Storm Andrea)! I used an umbrella to get to work, but the sideways rain soaked my slacks.

The power's flickering, so just wanted to give you a heads up if I am not as participatory.

Someone brought in big jugs of coffee today from the local bagel place, so everyone here is having a peppy day.

Snow Dog wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:For those interested here is A Person talking coherently during the day phase. It's right at the top of this page.

A Person wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
A Person wrote:Thank you for those who care.

While I may not have understand one thing you've written this game, I do care. What are your thoughts on the latest elim?
I know, but now we have a little faith in the theory.
Or maybe it doesn't make sense? Am I going mad?

It seems cogent only I think. Sorry AP. My bad.

It's like those Magic Picture images. You keep looking at them longer and longer, think you see the sailboat, but then your eye goes wonky and you lose it all again.

Hedgeowl wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Or maybe A Person first as he dropped the pretense of being insanified.
Mmm indeed.
He did? Where?

Owl - After seeing your comment, I went back through AP's latest and greatest.

Well now that I reread his/her last few posts, I wonder if s/he lucked into them sounding cogent. I misinterpreted them into being coherent speech.

Snow Dog wrote:Or maybe A Person first as he dropped the pretense of being insanified.

Mmm indeed.

Nevinera wrote:I'm voting for Jack, because he's the only name in the list that has any experience with the Dharma Initiative.

I wish there were more to read for her history.
Voting wise, she only voted for a decommissioning once, for DP.

Andrew, Mongoose, Snow, DP, and Hedge voted for her on the successful decommissioning -
That's especially solid evidence for DP and Hedge's being civ, since they were the swing votes.

Mongoose and Lizzy (and simon of course) voted for her in the other vote that almost caught her -
that's twice Mongoose has tried to catch her, and Lizzy was a swing vote that time (though only in a 2v2).

The suspect pool is diminishing rapidly :-D

I'm impressed with your sleuthing!

In the current poll, I chose Oliver the Excavator.

Sometimes you need a bulldozer, but not usually. Most often I think you need someone with a light touch, swift hands, and that knows you need to think before speaking. Excavating takes a certain amount of skill or prowess that a bulldozer need not have.

There were two excavators to choose from, so I picked Oliver over Alfie. Alfie of movie fame is a womanizer and it burns him in the end. I don't want this game to burn in me in the end. Also, Oliver reminds me of (well, yes the cat) Ollivander the Wand Maker. I've never been a wand-maker (but I've played one on TV), but I would guess it necessitates a great deal of finesse and acumen as well.

We did it!

A Person wrote:Thank you for those who care.

While I may not have understand one thing you've written this game, I do care. What are your thoughts on the latest elim?

Nevinera wrote:
McViper wrote:and what about reywaS? He's missed almost all the votes. What's with that?
Yeah, it bothered me too.. but missing all the votes isn't particularly good baddie-strategy either, so I'm not really sure what I can read into it.

I have to go before things settle out, and I don't have strong feelings about anyone in particular.
I'm going to vote Lizzy. I actually think Krissy is more likely to be bad, but
if Lizzy flips bad, we'll have evidence that Krissy is not (because Lizzy voted Krissy in a near-conviction)
- the converse isn't true.

Out for the afternoon to celebrate paying off my mortgage :-D :-D :-D

First of all, that's awesome you paid off your mortgage! What might you do to celebrate?

Thanks for the thoughts on Lizzy/Krissy. I feel like they are probably both not bad, but choosing between them was hard. Neither of them have said or done anything particularly red-flag inducing, but maybe that's all it is -- hanging just on the outskirts of a radar would be a good tactic if they were indeed dirty diesels.

Hedgeowl wrote:
McViper wrote:OK, I wnet back and looked at who voted Llama out. they were:
Lizzy, Andrew, Bullzeye , birdwithteeth11, A Person.

We know Bullzeye was bad. Of the above group I think Lizzy, A Person and Birdwithteeth are at the top of my list for being lynched
Mafia beat you to it! Birdswithteeth was NK'd. However, I agree that Lizzy and A Person are worth considering. I think its either Lizzy or Krissy though, and I am leaning more towrds Krissy at this point.

As we've discussed A Person being insanified means nothing froma civ vs. baddie perspective, but also means A Person cant defend against our accusations if targeted. Not sure what to do here.

Not guilty by reason of insanity? It could work!

My new stuff got mixed in with others' quotes above. The only thing I meant to add was "Oooh goind point RE: DP. That's cleared DP in my mind."

I'm not sure about Nev.

McViper wrote:
Nevinera wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Bullzeye has been decommissioned. He was Diesel 10.

It is now Night 4. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.
Wow! That is unexpected, but a big win.

I had already observed the bull-snow antagonism, so I feel like snow dog has to be pretty trustworthy now.
I mean, yeah they could have been faking that, but I really don't think bull would have put *so* much effort into that
argument if he were faking it. Given that, and snow's response, I feel pretty good about snow in general.

Since my main reason for suspecting viper was the double-vote with snow (sorry McV, I definitely wouldn't vote for you now),
I guess it's a good thing somebody rewrote the ballots! Good call, whoever you are, though I think I know ;-)

Voting for "Hey, Al Jazeera", because real journalism is old-fashioned and passe.
Oooh goind point RE: DP. That's cleared DP in my mind.

OK I'm thinking Nev is a baddie, based on how "sincere" his comment was above. He seems to be playing us. Also, I don't think DP is bad anymore. Bullzeye voted for him.

any thoughts?

She seems like a very pleasant person, but I feel she may have gotten wrapped up with a bad crowd. Therefore, I'm (relunctantly) voting Krissy.

Hopefully, I'm not wrong because she does seem like a lovely person.

McViper wrote:Also I am starting to suspect Mongoose as a evil person.

Nah. But if I was evil, that's what you'd expect me to say.

Hedgeowl wrote:Yeah, going over Nev's actions he is off my list for a baddie right now. However, if we can't totally agree, I would support a Krissy or A Person lynch today.

Mongoose, you found the exchange with A Person illuminating in what way?

A Person seemed overly defensive perhaps? It's hard to articulate, but was just a feeling.

Aack. Playing this game is like living a Christopher Nolan film.

I don't know, McV. I agree about DP, but not sure about Nev. However, I found the recent exchange A Person had with various players quite illuminating. I still think Krissy may have gotten in with the bad crowd.

reywaS wrote:Please edit my salty language in the above post. I forgot about the kiddos. Sorry.

I keep nearly typing mild swears as well.

McViper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:My guess is that Henry switched the vote. I wonder what made him so sure Bullz was diesel.

Maybe Henry was thinking about the Llama Gambit

Poor Llama will never live that one down.

Nevinera wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Bullzeye has been decommissioned. He was Diesel 10.

It is now Night 4. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.
Wow! That is unexpected, but a big win.

I had already observed the bull-snow antagonism, so I feel like snow dog has to be pretty trustworthy now.
I mean, yeah they could have been faking that, but I really don't think bull would have put *so* much effort into that
argument if he were faking it. Given that, and snow's response, I feel pretty good about snow in general.

Since my main reason for suspecting viper was the double-vote with snow (sorry McV, I definitely wouldn't vote for you now),
I guess it's a good thing somebody rewrote the ballots! Good call, whoever you are, though I think I know ;-)

Yeah, through process of elimination, I'm putting McV, Snow and you in my safe list. I'm still wondering about Krissy though.

I chose Cap'n Bunny-killer because of how silly and inane that would sound. There's no way someone could honestly take offense at that.

Bullzeye wrote:I am going to put my vote on McViper because I've found his past two votes quite suspicious and I think there's something going on there.

I agree, so I am voting McViper (and it has nothing to do with the mongoose/snake allegory).

Andrew wrote:Voting dp.

Any reason why, or just a hunch?

Snow Dog wrote:You see Nev I thought you were saying you knew Bullz was civ because you role checked him or something which is what I thought was a role hint about yourself. I saw then that there are no roles like that so I read your post again and saw I interpreted it wrong.

All just a silly misunderstanding.

Anyone else going to post on here?

I interpreted that incorrectly too. Any thoughts on anyone else?

Oy vey. I'm more clueless than a cat in a paper bag in regards as to whom to vote for this time.

Any compelling arguments?

Simon wrote:Krissy, are you bad? I think you are.

I agree, but am wholly unable to articulate why other than just getting that feeling.

I've gotta go with Ella, guys.

Time to Rhyme = No Time to Kill

Snow Dog wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Sorry - been slammed at work today. Also, had to go do my civic duty via jury summons.

Anyway, I chose Snow Dog due to llama's Hidden Message School of Thought. Can't spell Snow Dog without "goon." My apologies.
Well we now know Llama's hidden message thing was baloney(like everyone knew anyway) so what's the real reason for my vote. You see I need to vote someone and to me you look as good a choice as anyone.

If the gloves do fit, I can't acquit.

thellama73 wrote:What a world, what a world! Avenge me, friends!

Tragic! Gone before your time.

I picked 23. I didn't choose 42 (sorry Adams fans) because it seemed too big and the other options seemed too small. Plus, it was Michael Jordan's number (and also my number when I played soccer).

Nevinera wrote:
I'm prickly because I'm not sleeping well. Though I am pretty grumpy normally anyway.

I can totally understand that. I am an absolute beast when I've not slept enough or sufficiently.

Russtifinko wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Sorry - been slammed at work today. Also, had to go do my civic duty via jury summons.

Anyway, I chose Snow Dog due to llama's Hidden Message School of Thought. Can't spell Snow Dog without "goon." My apologies.

This is ironic, coming from you, Mongoose.

I was secretly hoping someone would catch that!

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